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We did some ridiculous move and it turned to shit, can't blame anyone but ourselves =P | ||
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On December 19 2011 06:51 prplhz wrote: Well, I was actually referring to syllogism's "You guys will never improve"-thing. It's like when Ace made that post saying "Everybody sucks" and then just left it there, I have played like 50 games and I still suck but I only really started improving after a lot of nice people started me giving some really good advice  I think people here need to listen to the people who are considered good players a lot more (one of the advice I myself was given at some point and that drastically improved my play). Learn to get a good read on them and learn how they play and then put them in the spot light, there they will either perform or they will out themselves. Learn to read the special cases that are the experienced players first and then listen to what they have to say 'cause they're often right, or they will sound stupid, then move on to start scum hunting for real yourself. Town hunting is a lot easier I'd say Also, if one good player says something and 10 not-so-good players say something else, it's usually the good player who is right.Dunno, I really shouldn't be giving advice but that's my take on this game. I was actually not entirely convinced about annul either, but I was very sure that Palmar was town and I was very sure that syllogism had shot annul, so that was two good players saying that a guy was definitely scum, and that very often means that he's scum. Also, yea Drazerk you need a break from mafia I think  You had a god damn mental break down this game. Totally contrary to how you played in XLVII which I enjoyed a lot <3 prpl you are getting really good as of late. But I don't really agree with listening to "good players". I'm more in favor of becoming good yourself and that's totally doable. There is PLENTY of material here and some very good guides. I mean I consider myself a fairly decent (town) player and most of the way I think about things is derived from ver's guide. You just have to understand the true meaning of suspicious (scum) behavior. It's not when the dude is doing things most people will take a glance and say "Fuck that's suspicious as shit", it's when the dude is actively avoiding doing anything that can cause such suspicion. Most people can be caught this way if you try to put yourself in their position. Others can be caught by observing how they are twisting logic and evidence to support a certain side of an argument, so you can clearly see they have an agenda behind it. Playing more and more won't make you better, reading and thinking about it really hard will. | ||
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I was very sure after annul claimed the shot day 2 that palmar/radfiled would not rest until they got him lynched. I was also very sure palmar would conclude I was 100% scum if I didn't vote annul. Also I already knew that radfield and a few others suspected me. My team and annul himself thought that bussing him was a bad idea so I couldn't push it full strength to get town cred, because ultimately they wanted for him to not get lynched. So I tried to push annul half heatedly in a slightly scummy way to actually dissuade the people that thought I was scum from voting him, while not really convincing others that didn't find me scummy to vote him. I really had no option but to post very little and don't add much content to annul's case. Had I pushed it full strength I'm pretty sure he would have been lynched day 2 and my team didn't want that. So it kinda worked out this way, and also gave me a reasonable explanation for being alive later since I was useless. Same thing happened day 3, I couldn't really push annul so I posted the minimum. I guess I could have started pushing random shit at that point since most people that knew me were dead already. But at that point the game was really dull for me and I wasn't really motivated because town was getting no where and it was frustrating even me lol. So day 4 I actually had quite a bit of fun, at first I thought town would never fall for that shit, since to me it would be really obvious, but I decided to give it my best shot to make it look believable since I wanted some excitement influx. It kinda worked out, but we really thought town had the same roles as mafia since that was observed in the thread (town rb day2, town jack, town floridian, town medic) so we didn't really count on jailer, we thought town had a roleblocker instead. In the end it worked out since jackal never hinted his role and the remaining town never bothered to read the thread and observe jackal's behaviour in all annul's lynches to conclude he was 100% guilty no questions asked. So we won, yay! | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212¤tpage=88#1742 MAFIA! | ||
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On December 20 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote: that's exactly how I took prplhz's post, I assumed he agreed with me, and decided to sarcastically jump on sandroba's wagon. Lies. Obviously my method is way moar efficient. | ||
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