Hello everyone. I'll never agree to the random lynching, I think it's useless.
@Palmar You bring that up every game it seems, despite being argued against every time. How exactly is that helping? Do you really want to random lynch?

@Syllogism How come you are so active early game?

@Radfield Did I read your post wrong or did you dissagree with random lynching and proceeded to random vote?

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December 05 2011 12:00 GMT

#399

Sorry guys, I've been in bed for the last 15 hrs due to fever and a fucked up throat. I was planning on posting less this game and I opted to hold off posting before that. Expect a big post commenting on everything soon.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 12:46 GMT

#406

Okay so here it is:

Syllogism: Unless he found a new love for being mafia exactly this game, I'm pretty surre he is town. He could have opted to post waaaay less day1 and still I wouldn't suspect him, because that's usually how he operates. Instead he is getting this thread moving, posting a shitton and generating discussion.

Radfield: Pretty active, but for him that doesn't mean as much. Leaning town on him for now, only because his posts are not as carefully constructed as when he is mafia.

Palmar: Kinda inactive day 1, but I can't really say shit about that, since I was inactive myself. It's worth keeping an eye on him, since I'm having a bad feeling about his posts (pretty much reharsh of previous games posts), but still a retarded choice for a lynch day1.

These guys shouldn't even be discussed for a lynch day1, since they have a high chance of being shot night 1 when town.

Now into the people I actually find suspicious and would like input on from everyone in the thread:

Zephird: He is talking nonsense in pretty much every post he makes in the beggining and then jumps on the corrupt dude who seems to be the most inexperienced player in this game. Compare that to his play in the last game where he was town, where his logic was pretty decent and I got a town read on him pretty much right of the bat.

vaderseven: This guy gave me the impression that he is pretty good at this game in xlvii. His case on radfield is based on logical falacies and plain out wrong information. When people point this out he dismisses it and jump on the easy mode corrupt bandwagon. That note thing seems fabricated as fuck, given the way it's written and the amount of false information it contains. The fact that he unvoted radfield after people pointed out several flaws in his case isn't a scum trait by itself, but him jumping on corrupt the second after while admiting he could easily be a bad townie aswell is the patern we can identify as him not actually worried about looking for people that actually have scum motives behind their posts.

Now comenting on people that others were suspicious off:
VE: While I don't agree with his logic, I find him very open and transparent in his posts. Contrary to the previous guys I mentioned I don't get the vibe that he is trying to hide in his posts.
Hier: Don't know how good this guy is but his attack on syllo was pretty ridiculous. Don't think that makes him auto-mafia though, I need to see more from him before I decide.
prpl: I see nothing in his posts that point toward being mafia so far. That "blue claim" you guys are freaking over about doesn't even seem like a blue claim to me lol. Seriously.
Jackal: I went over his day1 on xlvii and found his tone to be pretty simillar. Dunno what to make of him yet.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 12:56 GMT

#411

Please comment on zephird and vaderseven.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 13:04 GMT

#413

I know what you are saying but since Incog is the host I'm pretty sure that doesn't mean shit. Anyway I'm more confident on vaderseven.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 13:58 GMT

#417

@supersoft How does wbg being active as scum has any relevance on how syllo normally plays? I know that he hates being mafia and he prob wouldn't put in this much effort as scum. Of course there is the possibility that he suddenly decided to try a ultra active scum style despite not liking being scum, but that is extremelly more unlikely compared to the easiest explanation. It doesn't matter what I think it's optimal if I think syllo wouldn't play optimally as scum. You have to make assumptions and roll with them until new evidence tells you otherwise.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 14:18 GMT

#425

@ss I don't think he is scum. If you go back to his previous game (xlvii) and filter him there you will notice the exact same trend of making huge posts and being very prolix when arguing something simple. Can you explain to me what exactly makes him suspicious to you?

sandroba

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December 05 2011 14:20 GMT

#427

Seriously palmar? How about you tell me what you think about the cases people are pushing. vadersen to be more specific.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 14:27 GMT

#431

Yes, I do. I went to his filter and I can't tell if scum or not. I think the case on vader is stronger.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 17:56 GMT

#580

Holy shit. If somehow you guys are town that was retarded as fuck. I seriously hope you were bluffing and if you were not I hope this soap dude flips scum for pure dumb luck. The thing is the way this all came to fruition is bothering me a whole lot. Somehow palmar claims day vig and that he would shoot a guy that coincidently claims day vig too and shoots someone at random. It seems hard to believe this is not fabricated. Then again a scum vig shooting day1 is like begging to be lynched. I'll wait on new information or the lack thereof before I analyse this further. Don't do more stupid shit please.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 18:08 GMT

#602

@vaderseven Does the guy you shoot die instantly or at the end of the day cycle?

sandroba

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December 05 2011 18:10 GMT

#605

No I'm saying either they are both scum or they were in contact with each other (unlikely). Either that or some miraculous shit just happened. Palmar fake claims vig -> vaderseven claims vig and shoots. Come on.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 20:03 GMT

#673

@Radfield I kinda like errandor as a lynch today. He is acting just like he did last game as scum. I don't like half the people on your list though.

@Errandor where the fuck are you?

sandroba

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December 05 2011 20:06 GMT

#677

On December 06 2011 04:45 Erandorr wrote:
I am very ill, probably will write one big post but nothing more today.

K, maybe we should give him a day to get his shit toghether.

Still I don't really like the heir case very much. If syllo is town and everyone seems to believe so, then I find it unlikely mafia would push for the hardest guy to be lynched today.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 21:25 GMT

#715

Honestly I'd rather we no lynch today. I don't think killing Palmar is the solution, especially since no one is really defending him and he doesn't seem to give a shit. I can't really find someone that I feel has a better than random chance of flipping scum. I'm open to sugestions though.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 21:31 GMT

#723

Why is palmar going to flip red? All I hear is people yelling palmar scum without anyone really proving why that is. How is palmar worse than vaderseven in all this mess? I can see arguments for and against vader being scum, but I can only really see palmar being scum if vader is too. If we are not lynching vader (which I think we shouldn't) we defenitely should not be lynching palmar.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 21:32 GMT

#724

You guys are very cute and retarded. Of course I'm not counting myself because I know I'm town.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 22:02 GMT

#755

@Radfield Honestly I have a headache and I'm not going to filter everyone right now. I do like your shit about lanaia though. I'd be okay lynching her.

sandroba

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December 05 2011 22:07 GMT

#760

What the fuck, insta-delurk when called out. I think you got one there.

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