EPTTL Mafia XLVIII - Page 34
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:29 vaderseven wrote: That's retarded. Lieing to see if someone is lieing doesn't help to clarify anything. it does. Now drop a gear. Go read back in the thread and find something. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:30 vaderseven wrote: I shoulda shot palmar. yes you should of -.- | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:31 supersoft wrote: it does. Now drop a gear. Go read back in the thread and find something. Says you who has promised to read the thread and post insight three times now. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:25 supersoft wrote: sorry radfield, that list is horrible. I expect much more from you than listing 9 players that are lurking/trolling. For example myself. I admit, i didnt contribute anything gamedeciding so far and I even made a mistakes by creating a spam/troll atmosphere for quite a while. We maybe could have gathered more information out of the Palmar/v7 incident with a more levelheaded discussion about it. You also provide far too less reasons for the people on that list. You just throw this list at us and in the following you water down your own list. How is that useful? I also disagree about Jackal. Maybe I don't see the difference, but I don't think he's playing unusual... I'll filter your others targets now and look if there is actually something applicable among. It's Day 1, that's all I got right now. But I'm serious when I say that almost every other player I am not willing to lynch today. On some I could certainly be persuaded, but not most. I have zero solid scum reads, and tons of decent to good town reads, same as every other Day 1 town game I have ever played  | ||
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Erandorr
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:33 redFF wrote: palmar are you a day role cop? Lol, I'm not a day anything. The entire thing started when syllogism pointed out an obvious flaw in vaderseven's posting. He claimed to have pasted his notes on radfield directly out of his note-thing, yet when syllo requested v7 gave us the rest of his notes after being pressured by sandroba, he refused, based on it not being formatted or anything. Which seems inconsistent with what v7 said earlier. So, I believed, and still believe v7 doesn't actually have notes on people, I think he made that thing on Radfield up. So I decided to force him to post his notes at gunpoint, mostly because for some reason v7 was refusing to give his notes to syllo. Obviously this had a hilarious rippling effect if v7 was actually a day vig himself I retracted my claim long before v7 shot. The entire point was an attempt to force v7 to throw together something that could pass for notes very quickly, hoping he'd fuck up, but he claimed being at work, and I compared the time he posted that to the time when he posted his notes on radfield last night, and it is actually consistent with him having not been at work at that time, but being at work now. So I can't directly call him out on anything, but I think his decision to shoot Soap is incredibly rash. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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ElectricBlack
United Kingdom38 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
@Errandor where the fuck are you? | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:17 Radfield wrote: Palmar looks terrible, but I disagree with lynching him today. Palmar could easily flip town right now and I would not be surprised. Looking scummy is a viable way to survive night 1. Palmar is a good player, and has been getting shot night 1 repeatedly lately. If he is still shitting up the thread on Day 2, then yes we lynch him. I DO however agree that his play so far looks a lot like his play in LOTR(where he was third party). I strongly disagree with a V7 lynch right now. If you reread the entire scenario, it doesn't look like the actions of a mafia. It looks like the actions of a frustrated townie. Pushing votes on him right now seems smart, because his actions were foolish, but in reality I think voting V7 simply gives mafia an easy place to hide their votes. Not to mention, his reasoning behind shooting soap made sense. At no point in this game is Soap going to step up and prove he is town through his contributions(or at least it seems that way, no offence). That means he is either Scum or a liability. Was it smart to shoot? No. If you are going to shoot as town, was soap a good target? Yes. This and On December 06 2011 04:51 Palmar wrote: Lol, I'm not a day anything. The entire thing started when syllogism pointed out an obvious flaw in vaderseven's posting. He claimed to have pasted his notes on radfield directly out of his note-thing, yet when syllo requested v7 gave us the rest of his notes after being pressured by sandroba, he refused, based on it not being formatted or anything. Which seems inconsistent with what v7 said earlier. So, I believed, and still believe v7 doesn't actually have notes on people, I think he made that thing on Radfield up. So I decided to force him to post his notes at gunpoint, mostly because for some reason v7 was refusing to give his notes to syllo. Obviously this had a hilarious rippling effect if v7 was actually a day vig himself I retracted my claim long before v7 shot. The entire point was an attempt to force v7 to throw together something that could pass for notes very quickly, hoping he'd fuck up, but he claimed being at work, and I compared the time he posted that to the time when he posted his notes on radfield last night, and it is actually consistent with him having not been at work at that time, but being at work now. So I can't directly call him out on anything, but I think his decision to shoot Soap is incredibly rash. This makes me feel it's a bad idea to vote Palmar now. His earlier posts were okay, and I basically get that he was laughing hard at the whole situation that happened today. I'm still unsure about voting V7 over anyone else. Putting myself on his place, it sounds like something I would have done(albeit not on Soap). Doesn't help that Soap hasnt flipped yet. Gah, back to mark zero again. If anything Corrupt is my strongest(1%) scumread at this point, just because of my retarded head and its tendency to see that last response of his as a post made with help of scumbuddies, but that's a nonlogic thought as its huge WIFOM -_- In a sense, Mattchew isn't helping either, but he doesn't look like the red cardboard that came out of a Mountain-only MTG meeting that happened on the middle of China under red lights that he was on XLVII, so I'd say he is a second here, but it isn't any big deal at all. Gah. ##unvote Palmar | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On December 06 2011 05:02 ElectricBlack wrote: yes, as I said, your claim is consistent. I still want all your notes btw. don't update them once you're home, just post them. WHO ARE YOU??? | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
This is essentially stream-of-consciousness here as I read the thread. On December 05 2011 21:46 sandroba wrote: Now into the people I actually find suspicious and would like input on from everyone in the thread: Zephird: He is talking nonsense in pretty much every post he makes in the beggining and then jumps on the corrupt dude who seems to be the most inexperienced player in this game. Compare that to his play in the last game where he was town, where his logic was pretty decent and I got a town read on him pretty much right of the bat. vaderseven: This guy gave me the impression that he is pretty good at this game in xlvii. His case on radfield is based on logical falacies and plain out wrong information. When people point this out he dismisses it and jump on the easy mode corrupt bandwagon. That note thing seems fabricated as fuck, given the way it's written and the amount of false information it contains. The fact that he unvoted radfield after people pointed out several flaws in his case isn't a scum trait by itself, but him jumping on corrupt the second after while admiting he could easily be a bad townie aswell is the patern we can identify as him not actually worried about looking for people that actually have scum motives behind their posts. I'm pretty sure I agree with sandroba on both counts here, but moreso on vaderseven. He has been giving me scumvibes this game. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU SHOOT d1. Seriously, wtf are people even doing in this game. Palmar's being weird. On December 06 2011 03:04 supersoft wrote: lol? I am rather voting palmar if soap flips red than the other way around... Seriously. He didn't want soap to die... I'm going to echo supersoft here. On December 06 2011 04:30 vaderseven wrote: I shoulda shot palmar. I disagree. You shouldn't've shot anyone. I don't think you're scum anymore, but I think you made a terrible decision. However, what I really don't like is how Palmar seems to have known your role before you claimed. Right now, I'm going to ##vote: Palmar because I have no idea what the fuck he thinks he's doing and that feels fairly scummy to me and he seems to have known vader's role and I also don't think Drazerk is scum so I don't understand why Palmar thinks RNG is the best idea for votes. Hell, I could randomly vote on my own accord and CLAIM that it's RNG. I'm sorry, but I won't be back until after the lynch because of school (I think. Oh wait, deadline is 8pm PST? I'll be here a couple hours before then, most likely, given nothing happens on the highway). | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:45 Erandorr wrote: I am very ill, probably will write one big post but nothing more today. K, maybe we should give him a day to get his shit toghether. Still I don't really like the heir case very much. If syllo is town and everyone seems to believe so, then I find it unlikely mafia would push for the hardest guy to be lynched today. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:06 Radfield wrote: Yes, lets get started. These are the players I am willing to lynch today: 1. supersoft 7. hyshes 6. Erandorr 9. Drazerk 10. Jackal58 16. kingjames01 19. Lanaia 20. Risen 24. Hier Now I realize I'm doing what I said to not do: Posting a big list of people who scum can cherry pick from. However at this point I'm willing to let scum take from this list if they want to. If anyone thinks anyone else should be on this list, i'm happy to discuss why they are not. Jackal seems to be only posting in response to players. I don't have a good read on Jackal though, so as I said, I'm not going to push it on my own. I'm at work. Pardon me. I responded to you twice last night and you ignored both of them. You called me out (kinda) on my first post in the game. I'm still not sure why since you basically regurgitated my first post for the next several posts you made. And then decided my first post looked "off". You have ignored me twice. You have ignored most others just to go on and ask for others opinions with out trying to turn their answers into a discussion. You just ask another inane question of somebody else. You call rng voting dumb and then do it yourself. You call lists dumb and then do it yourself. It's not until this post I quoted that you have actually posted anything worthwhile. Filter him. He says a lot without saying a damn thing. And when he does finally commit to something he lists a third of the players in the game. Dude you're scum. Palmar played the same way in PYPII as he is now. He was town then. I suspect he's town now. Only difference is I can't blow him up this game. I suspect vaderseven is also town. The way Palmar forced him to shoot is the same reason I blew up Palmar in PYPII. Apparently Palmar doesn't learn. Radfield has my vote. Of everybody to this point in the game he is the only one I see as definite scum. ##Vote: Radfield. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
I'll just post the beginning for now: Although he seemed really sincere about the whole situation, we don't even know if vaderseven actually had the power to kill Soap. I'm sure Incog or wbg would have resolved the issue if Soap had been killed. Palmar has been playing erratically but it's my opinion that he is either aiming to be lynched or that he wanted to force mistakes. Don't discount the possibility of a Village Idiot. Refer to Mafia XXXI where the VI was lynched on Day 1: TL Mafia XXXI | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
![[image loading]](http://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report1.gif) ELECTRICBLACK IS SOMEONE'S SMURF | ||
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