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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 06 2011 03:20 syllogism wrote:
Radfield you promised to push for a lynch today if town has no direction and that appears to be the case so far. Barring the flip revealing more information, who would be your lynch today? I'm starting to lose motivation with sandroba/palmar both being equally useless. Sandroba kind of makes sense so far but is being quite lazy, if town.
Yes, lets get started. These are the players I am willing to lynch today:
1. supersoft
7. hyshes
6. Erandorr
9. Drazerk
10. Jackal58
16. kingjames01
19. Lanaia
20. Risen
24. Hier
Now I realize I'm doing what I said to not do: Posting a big list of people who scum can cherry pick from. However at this point I'm willing to let scum take from this list if they want to. If anyone thinks anyone else should be on this list, i'm happy to discuss why they are not.
supersoft and Drazerk I'm less sure about, so lets take them off the list for the time being. They're both active as well, so presumably they will pick it up on their own. Hyshes has a IRL excuse, so he can slide by for a day. Hier is basically inactive, so it's kinda useless to vote for him.
Risen I thought looked like a particularly good lynch, though on rereading his filter I'm not so sure anymore: Filter. I'd like to check his past game(s)
Every post of Lanaia makes her look like scum:Filter Also need to check her past game.
Kingjames01: Upon reading his two posts, my initial thought was that he has about 2 posts to impress me, or he is looking scummy. Both posts are neutral and full of generalities, long past the time when we needed to talk in generalities. Since then he has not posted again. Pretty decent lynch in my eyes.
Jackal seems to be only posting in response to players. I don't have a good read on Jackal though, so as I said, I'm not going to push it on my own.
Erandorr: First post in the thread stuck out like a sore thumb to me:
On December 05 2011 08:50 Erandorr wrote:
Okay I just got home and I have a question for you, Rad. What are your thoughts at this point? Is there anyone that is standing out to you?
No discussion, no comments on any of the current topics, just.... nothing
Then calls me out, but does nothing to follow his own advice. In fact, he's doing exactly what he is accusing me of: Just asking questions of other players without giving your own reads:
Okay Radfield, this is starting to give me a bad feeling....What we have right now is a very peaceful town, but not one that is looking like it is gaining a lot of information anytime soon and you are doing very little to change that....
Most recent post:
+ Show Spoiler +To Radfield : The reason I asked you specificly is because I noticed it and it had not been mentioned before. That in itself was my contribution at that point. That I have to comment on other players as well is a given, but that does not make my questions any less valid. I didn't only ask you, I wrote something about you specificly because that question solidified my concern, which is that you are actually more contributing than guiding, which can be a very subtle way of playing scum.
I felt this was a decent response. Yet since that point he has done nothing. He agrees he needs to comment on other players, yet does not do it.
Eran has done nothing but respond to me this game. I get the feeling that had I not pushed him, he probably would have said far less. Certainly not sure on this, but it's niggling me. Again, I need to do some legwork and look at past games.
Thoughts anyone? Agree/Disagree?
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I will be voting for Hier for now for aforementioned reasons; might re-evaluate based on the flip and how voting progresses. He still hasn't posted anything after his initial seemingly forced case.
##vote Hier
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United States2841 Posts
"Then calls me out, but does nothing to follow his own advice. In fact, he's doing exactly what he is accusing me of: Just asking questions of other players without giving your own reads:"
hey to be fair until THIS post of yours you pretty much did the same thing all game
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Rad the only name that matches on our list is Jackal. I think that he is suspicious as well and pretty scummy so far.
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Because we haven't seen the flip on V7's killshot and Palmar has done nothing but troll and look like a jester. There just isnt enough info yet to make a read on them. I believe that Rad is trying to hit scum but trim the fat (aka shitty town) if we miss on our first lynching
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 06 2011 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar - My initial vote was an attempt to get Palmar to actually play the game with us. He's still yet to share any of his reads, has instead rolefished (yeah I said it) and trolled town for no gain. Now he's convinced our day-vig (presuming OUR day-vig...) to throw away his day-shot on someone who doesn't even look scummy. Worst part? He's absolutely unrepentant in his actions. Palmar is almost confirmed scum at this point, and if we don't lynch him today I'm gonna be pretty shitty. SCUM.
Deez be mah reedz. I want to lynch Palmar.
Palmar looks terrible, but I disagree with lynching him today. Palmar could easily flip town right now and I would not be surprised. Looking scummy is a viable way to survive night 1. Palmar is a good player, and has been getting shot night 1 repeatedly lately. If he is still shitting up the thread on Day 2, then yes we lynch him. I DO however agree that his play so far looks a lot like his play in LOTR(where he was third party).
On December 06 2011 03:48 Drazerk wrote:
What is wrong with the Palmar / V7 candidates?
I strongly disagree with a V7 lynch right now. If you reread the entire scenario, it doesn't look like the actions of a mafia. It looks like the actions of a frustrated townie. Pushing votes on him right now seems smart, because his actions were foolish, but in reality I think voting V7 simply gives mafia an easy place to hide their votes.
Not to mention, his reasoning behind shooting soap made sense. At no point in this game is Soap going to step up and prove he is town through his contributions(or at least it seems that way, no offence). That means he is either Scum or a liability. Was it smart to shoot? No. If you are going to shoot as town, was soap a good target? Yes.
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I wanna know why Palmar isn't on your list Radfield. In fact, I would like to know why you aren't voting for him already.
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Rad we are agreeing too much... I must distance myself.... Radfield is scum duh
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For the record Rad, it is NOT viable to act scummy to survive N1 when half the thread and now a vet claim IN thread that they believe that's what he's doing. It makes his "efforts" useless because scum then assume that's what he's doing and shoot him anyway (if he's town). I doubt Palmar would be doing something so transparent. But then again, I haven't seen him play in a while. I still think he's scum. And I still want him to hang.
My 2 cents.
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On December 06 2011 04:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the record Rad, it is NOT viable to act scummy to survive N1 when half the thread and now a vet claim IN thread that they believe that's what he's doing. It makes his "efforts" useless because scum then assume that's what he's doing and shoot him anyway (if he's town). I doubt Palmar would be doing something so transparent. But then again, I haven't seen him play in a while. I still think he's scum. And I still want him to hang.
My 2 cents.
Is this WIFOM
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On December 06 2011 04:06 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 03:20 syllogism wrote:
Radfield you promised to push for a lynch today if town has no direction and that appears to be the case so far. Barring the flip revealing more information, who would be your lynch today? I'm starting to lose motivation with sandroba/palmar both being equally useless. Sandroba kind of makes sense so far but is being quite lazy, if town. Yes, lets get started. These are the players I am willing to lynch today: 1. supersoft 7. hyshes 6. Erandorr 9. Drazerk 10. Jackal58 16. kingjames01 19. Lanaia 20. Risen 24. Hier Now I realize I'm doing what I said to not do: Posting a big list of people who scum can cherry pick from. However at this point I'm willing to let scum take from this list if they want to. If anyone thinks anyone else should be on this list, i'm happy to discuss why they are not. supersoft and Drazerk I'm less sure about, so lets take them off the list for the time being. They're both active as well, so presumably they will pick it up on their own. Hyshes has a IRL excuse, so he can slide by for a day. Hier is basically inactive, so it's kinda useless to vote for him. Risen I thought looked like a particularly good lynch, though on rereading his filter I'm not so sure anymore: Filter. I'd like to check his past game(s) Every post of Lanaia makes her look like scum: Filter Also need to check her past game. Kingjames01: Upon reading his two posts, my initial thought was that he has about 2 posts to impress me, or he is looking scummy. Both posts are neutral and full of generalities, long past the time when we needed to talk in generalities. Since then he has not posted again. Pretty decent lynch in my eyes. Jackal seems to be only posting in response to players. I don't have a good read on Jackal though, so as I said, I'm not going to push it on my own. Erandorr: First post in the thread stuck out like a sore thumb to me: Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 08:50 Erandorr wrote:
Okay I just got home and I have a question for you, Rad. What are your thoughts at this point? Is there anyone that is standing out to you?
No discussion, no comments on any of the current topics, just.... nothing Then calls me out, but does nothing to follow his own advice. In fact, he's doing exactly what he is accusing me of: Just asking questions of other players without giving your own reads: Show nested quote +Okay Radfield, this is starting to give me a bad feeling....What we have right now is a very peaceful town, but not one that is looking like it is gaining a lot of information anytime soon and you are doing very little to change that.... Most recent post: + Show Spoiler +To Radfield : The reason I asked you specificly is because I noticed it and it had not been mentioned before. That in itself was my contribution at that point. That I have to comment on other players as well is a given, but that does not make my questions any less valid. I didn't only ask you, I wrote something about you specificly because that question solidified my concern, which is that you are actually more contributing than guiding, which can be a very subtle way of playing scum. I felt this was a decent response. Yet since that point he has done nothing. He agrees he needs to comment on other players, yet does not do it. Eran has done nothing but respond to me this game. I get the feeling that had I not pushed him, he probably would have said far less. Certainly not sure on this, but it's niggling me. Again, I need to do some legwork and look at past games. Thoughts anyone? Agree/Disagree?
sorry radfield, that list is horrible. I expect much more from you than listing 9 players that are lurking/trolling.
For example myself. I admit, i didnt contribute anything gamedeciding so far and I even made a mistakes by creating a spam/troll atmosphere for quite a while.
We maybe could have gathered more information out of the Palmar/v7 incident with a more levelheaded discussion about it.
You also provide far too less reasons for the people on that list. You just throw this list at us and in the following you water down your own list. How is that useful?
I also disagree about Jackal. Maybe I don't see the difference, but I don't think he's playing unusual...
I'll filter your others targets now and look if there is actually something applicable among.
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the whole point of palmar saying he was a day vig was to find out if vader was actually keeping notes.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I have to go back to work, and won't be able to read through lanaia and risen. If someone else wants to check out XLVIII and filter them please do. I should be back in a couple of hours.
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I really want palmar to contribute something remotely useful. Now.
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Wow, this thread blew up while I was asleep/at class. I'm back now, and for most of the day. Give me some time to read through the thread and I'll post my thoughts on people. Hopefully I can get up a lot of analysis.
Radfield here is my filter from my last game. This is only my second game, sorry it isn't much to go on. I got modkilled because I accidentally hit edit on one of my posts instead of quote.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=62525
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On December 06 2011 04:27 redFF wrote:
the whole point of palmar saying he was a day vig was to find out if vader was actually keeping notes.
No, stop it.
Actually reading the thread is forbidden, just keep derping.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On December 06 2011 04:28 vaderseven wrote:
I really want palmar to contribute something remotely useful. Now.
lol
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On December 06 2011 04:27 redFF wrote:
the whole point of palmar saying he was a day vig was to find out if vader was actually keeping notes.
That's retarded. Lieing to see if someone is lieing doesn't help to clarify anything.
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