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On December 08 2011 02:06 prplhz wrote:
@Radfield
I'm not a big fan of you calling me "prp" it kinda reminds me of "perpetrator", can't you call me "prpl" or "prplhz" instead? I call you Radfield all the time.
Can you outline for me what is bothering you about me? I can see how you might have a problem with the two other people on that list, though I don't think either of them is a better lynch than annul at all. I'd like to stop you from writing a huge accusation on me because I doubt I'm getting lynched today and I wouldn't want you to waste time on a big post on me.
more reason to write an even bigger post please and thank you
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On December 08 2011 02:09 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 02:01 Mattchew wrote:On December 08 2011 01:51 Radfield wrote:On December 08 2011 01:25 Mattchew wrote:
I post a whole list of scum reads and noone comments.. idk why I bother only to be called out for not contributing later... and then having stretched cases made against me by anyone that I disagree with That's because there is already a ongoing discussion topic which you only touched on a little bit. I agree that Erandorr looks like scum right now. I disagree with redff, he spams and posts 1 liners every game regardless of alignment. In his case, it is not a scum tell. Both Erandorr and RedFF claimed roleblocked, but that does not mean they necessarily have a role. Oftentimes in games you are informed you were roleblocked even if you are vanilla town. The chances of v7 and Palmar being both scum is astronomically low in my eyes. Not only do BOTH of them seem like townies, and BOTH have claimed likely town roles, but there is very little chance that the conversation between them was manufactured. I think that it would have been more productive to let them answer the question of what role they are. You have now given both of them an easy out and although it was probably going to be their answers, you have now essentially limited information we could be recieving. Also, Palmar and V7 were both in the last game and Palmar was involved firsthand in the Palmar vs. Ace vs. BC in which they were all town. It would be ingenius but not out of the question for them to stage a similar occurence this game. Interesting. Would you mind explaining why us telling you our roles is pro-town?
You may be right. But in that case How is saying that you were role blocked helpful? (this might be obvious to experienced players sorry)
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vader cant you just dayvig again and shoot palmar?
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Rad.. Do you think a talking scum (iyo prplhz) is worse than a lurker scum (imo Erandor). Mind you the case against Erandor is weaker but he may be more dangerous.
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I think the thing I dislike most about the 2 games I have played on TL is how offended people get when people accuse them of being scum and then insta-vote/scumcall/tunnel that person. Get over yourself, answer to your critics and don't take anything personally. If you believe you have a case other then "he's going after me hard" then post it, but don't just say the other person is scum because they are voting for you.
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On December 08 2011 05:27 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 05:24 Zephirdd wrote:
Palmar, you starded the black-and-white stuff. IF annul is lynched and flips green, can we jump on your ass and chop you out of the game no problem? Would you take that risk to lynch annul, are you that sure that he is scum? yes. barring a medic claim from a person I'm willing to believe, I am that certain. If annul flips green I'll take all the blame, if part of that is to be lynched I'll accept that.
just like you were willing to be lynched when ace flipped town? the lynch me if he flips town argument is so dumb.
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I am keeping my ##vote redFF because I have yet to see a case against someone I truly believe in. If someone can start a movement towards erandorr with a little more of a case then I can be swayed that way.
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On December 08 2011 05:42 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 05:37 Mattchew wrote:
I am keeping my ##vote redFF because I have yet to see a case against someone I truly believe in. If someone can start a movement towards erandorr with a little more of a case then I can be swayed that way. If you are so convinced, why don't you make that case?
On December 08 2011 05:44 Lanaia wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't've protected either annul or syllo if I'd been a medic. I'd've protected supersoft.
A newer player could have protected annul over syllo for lack of knowing.
Erandorr, one more thing...
Why are you so blatantly following Palmar?
In your answers, I saw very little thought that was your own.
@Mattchew
If you're looking for a case, why don't you make one on Eran?
Ok.
Erandorr
Last game in Scum QT
Syllo is one of the best players period he would be an extremely important kill. Plus palmar respects him a ton and if those two got things rolling together that would get very scary
why would you waste anything on annul??? especially a double hit.
Nah shit happens to overconfident scum. if they were smart they would look at all the players who were content sitting back and not contributing shit (like me). One or two players have to set themselves up to lead town if we get palmar out of the way. so grey and red , get on it!
If you read his last game (scum) in between the mayoral campaign and mass vote switch it reads extremely similar to this game
game
This is what I am using to point my finger at Erandorr.
I'll answer any questions should anything need further explanation.
I am still voting redFF but this is why I can be persuaded to Erandorr
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On December 08 2011 06:09 vaderseven wrote:
Stop asking for a mysterious medic to come forward. The person that can best say why a medic would have protected annul is that medic himself. Why give the scum a possible way to detect you through motive posting.
Assuming the alignment of an unclaimed role and/or determining the algnment of someone by assuming the alignment of an unclaimed role is rediculous.
Annul claims he was shot and protected. Annul is not confirmed scum by this and a doc protecting him confirms nothing.
As a town we need to stop basing huge conckusions off of ALMOST 100% unconfirmed data. You want to know what an easy case for scum to jump on looks like? One that is based in assumed facts that are just not confirmable.
I have no idea what annuls alignment is but I can certwinly say there is nothing about his claim of being protected in no way suggests any one single conclusion let alone confirming one.
Ok we understand you don't like the annul case. Can you please present something about someone other than palmar?
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On December 08 2011 06:32 Lanaia wrote:Mattchew, you ignored my question... Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 05:01 Lanaia wrote:On December 08 2011 01:39 Mattchew wrote:
I am slowly becoming more and more ok with lynching Palmar, and if he flips red following with the lynching V7.
Red and Eran still waiting on the roles you claim to be blocked from doing... One of them could be mafia and had their KP blocked Can you explain the link with Palmar flipping red = we need to lynch vader? I would appreciate an answer to this. If I've missed it, I'm sorry. I just don't get the logic behind it. I really fail to see where you were going with it. Also I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to quote the QT from last game as I'm pretty sure we never gave it out. Read this spoiler please. + Show Spoiler +Also, I feel the need to quote this again... On December 06 2011 10:44 Incognito wrote:Enough with the SPAM. Stop posting one liners or there will be--- Posts like these:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 09:44 annul wrote:On December 06 2011 08:23 supersoft wrote:
if she's a real girl, thats not a scumtell. Sorry folks. Girls contradict themselves all the time.
bahahahahah as well as the other one liners are unacceptable. Please consolidate your posting and keep this thread readable. Thanks! And this... On December 07 2011 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hey all, please cut down on the one liner spam.
Incog has asked at least twice already and I have received a PM from a player about the spam situation.
This will be the last warning before more serious consequences begin to appear. as you guys are ignoring it, it seems.
not ignored.. missed... my apologies
I think that Palmar and V7 set up the entire situation so that V7 could shoot a townie early with an excuse. Palmar can just play the wtf happened and I didn't mean to get a townie shot card and then they are both cleared.
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And why should I not post the QT? Is there a rule against that? If there is I will accept punishment, it was an honest mistake.
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On December 08 2011 06:29 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 05:37 Mattchew wrote:
I am keeping my ##vote redFF because I have yet to see a case against someone I truly believe in. If someone can start a movement towards erandorr with a little more of a case then I can be swayed that way. this post is so scummy I don't even.
once again.. people assuming scum based off accusations on themselves.
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On December 08 2011 06:42 prplhz wrote:Now stop talking about past game QTs.
Why? (this isn't meant to be rude I would actually like to know why previous game QT's should not be used)
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On December 08 2011 06:47 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 06:44 Mattchew wrote:On December 08 2011 06:29 redFF wrote:On December 08 2011 05:37 Mattchew wrote:
I am keeping my ##vote redFF because I have yet to see a case against someone I truly believe in. If someone can start a movement towards erandorr with a little more of a case then I can be swayed that way. this post is so scummy I don't even. once again.. people assuming scum based off accusations on themselves. ![[image loading]](http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/jackie(8).jpg) prplz is probably palmar's buddy.
Can you explain to a noob like myself what all this post means
On December 08 2011 06:48 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 06:45 Mattchew wrote:On December 08 2011 06:42 prplhz wrote:Now stop talking about past game QTs. Why? (this isn't meant to be rude I would actually like to know why previous game QT's should not be used) Use them all you want, people were just talking about whether it was posted and whether it should be posted and stuff like that. There is it, it was posted and that's all there is to say about that, move on to stuff that is actually related to the game we're playing right now.
oh ok... thought you meant not to use it... apologies...
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On December 08 2011 06:52 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 06:39 Mattchew wrote:On December 08 2011 06:32 Lanaia wrote:Mattchew, you ignored my question... On December 08 2011 05:01 Lanaia wrote:On December 08 2011 01:39 Mattchew wrote:
I am slowly becoming more and more ok with lynching Palmar, and if he flips red following with the lynching V7.
Red and Eran still waiting on the roles you claim to be blocked from doing... One of them could be mafia and had their KP blocked Can you explain the link with Palmar flipping red = we need to lynch vader? I would appreciate an answer to this. If I've missed it, I'm sorry. I just don't get the logic behind it. I really fail to see where you were going with it. Also I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to quote the QT from last game as I'm pretty sure we never gave it out. Read this spoiler please. + Show Spoiler +Also, I feel the need to quote this again... On December 06 2011 10:44 Incognito wrote:Enough with the SPAM. Stop posting one liners or there will be--- Posts like these:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 09:44 annul wrote:On December 06 2011 08:23 supersoft wrote:
if she's a real girl, thats not a scumtell. Sorry folks. Girls contradict themselves all the time.
bahahahahah as well as the other one liners are unacceptable. Please consolidate your posting and keep this thread readable. Thanks! And this... On December 07 2011 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hey all, please cut down on the one liner spam.
Incog has asked at least twice already and I have received a PM from a player about the spam situation.
This will be the last warning before more serious consequences begin to appear. as you guys are ignoring it, it seems. not ignored.. missed... my apologies I think that Palmar and V7 set up the entire situation so that V7 could shoot a townie early with an excuse. Palmar can just play the wtf happened and I didn't mean to get a townie shot card and then they are both cleared. Another question, then... If they were doing that, why wouldn't they have shot a more experienced and contributing player than Soap? Why would they do it d1? What exactly makes you think they did this? Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 06:41 Mattchew wrote:
And why should I not post the QT? Is there a rule against that? If there is I will accept punishment, it was an honest mistake. I'm not sure, but it's technically private still, and where I'm from, you're typically not allowed to use info outside of the game that not everyone has access to. It very well could be different here. My apologies. I was incorrect. Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 05:25 sandroba wrote:
If you are medic and protected annul please claim right now so we can lynch both of you. Have a good day. Missed this a while ago. I really don't see why we'd lynch both and I also don't see why we need yet another roleclaim. I do agree with Toad's case on Eran. Mattchew, red is correct in that your post saying why you're going to vote red is scummy. You say you haven't seen a case that you truly believe in, which implies the case on red is one you don't believe in. If that's so, why are you on red?
I said (or meant to say) I havent seen another case that I believe in. I made my case against red and still believe in that over anything else thats been presented
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@Eran, Where do you stand on redFF?
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On December 08 2011 08:33 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 07:21 Palmar wrote:
I'm surprised radfield, as I feel prplhz is doing a better job at looking town than I've seen before. I also felt prplhz was looking townie halfway through yesterday, but his actions are against him. Truthbringer was over-the-top scummy with his first posts, which is very very rarely a scum trait. Since that I feel he has been decent. vaderseven is almost surely town. He might be my strongest town read. The fact that prplhz is still pushing for lynching him seems like he's not even paying attention. If he's a jack he is town, if he's a jack he can prove his role. Add to that his posting is very green, and you have someone not worth looking at for a long time. If he is miraculously still around on day 4/5 after having done nothing for town, then yeah, but not until then. The case on Mattchew was pretty thin in my eyes, though to be honest I skim-read it. I had mattchew down as prob town. However, I just re-read his filter and it looks worse than I recall. In particular his posts after getting called out. There are definitely mafia motives with posts like these: Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 00:26 Mattchew wrote:On December 08 2011 00:20 Palmar wrote:
Hey Mattchew, vote annul. your making it extremely hard even though I agree votes should be on annul until someone steps up and claims they protected him I have completely changed my views on the medic revealing himself... I didn't realize how stupid that would be until it was told to me. Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 01:39 Mattchew wrote:(Both sentences in this quote)
I am slowly becoming more and more ok with lynching Palmar, and if he flips red following with the lynching V7.
Red and Eran still waiting on the roles you claim to be blocked from doing... One of them could be mafia and had their KP blocked He also made the worlds shortest 'case' against erandorr. That being said I'm not real sure he is scum, but he certainly reads less green than I thought. So where does that leave me on prplhz you ask? I'm not really sure. His defense was decent: truthbringer IS less of a raw newb than I realized, PYPI was multi scum teams so is moot, my points about tone are pretty weak. But his reaction to the v7 vig shot, his justification of finding v7 scummy, and his semi flip-flop on annul rub me very much the wrong way. I'm not really sure which way to take it from here.
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EBWOP:
I have completely changed my views on the medic revealing himself... I didn't realize how stupid that would be until it was told to me.
Was supposed to be my statement after the quote.. not in it lol
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I'm going to the casino for the next 4 - 6 hours and then to sleep. I will be on again in around 12 hours.
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On December 08 2011 12:27 redFF wrote:
scumteam atm is palmar, prplhz, zephirdd mattchew and then someone else i dunno maybe rad?
I'd be surprised if anyone on this list was mafia sorry I'm not sorry for being honest (or it might turn out I'm just stupid)
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