EPTOn December 05 2011 08:09 Radfield wrote:
Redff is being aggressive, and I like it.
Redff is being aggressive, and I like it.
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:17 syllogism wrote: Radfield: do you really find that annul is being aggressive and doing a fine job? I thought he played well in XLVII but so far his pressure has been directed towards irrelevant things, such as prplhz's "slip" and some general strategy related topics I think he's doing a great job establishing himself as likely green. His aggression seems honest, though I agree somewhat misguided. Eventually it will swing around. I also fully agree with his pushing of prplhz's "blue claim". I've always been of the opinion that anything I can see, mafia can see. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
You just made me randomly burst out laughing  | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Not only will and has your play not provided any information that will help clue everyone on in to something that needs looked at (which would be the case if you made a case on someone instead of just posting a vague gut feeling) but your play is going to lack any links to reasons/evidence/motives and thus will be impossible to scum hunt in. We will be at most able to note your level of activity, your vote pattern, and your refusal to help. What BOTHERS me is that I have seen enough players that fit that description end up flipping town and the thread has to shake their collective fists and curse "bad townie." You are on notice now via my vote and this post. Change it up. ##vote Corrupt | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Goddamnit I almost spilled soda over my TL shirt LOL | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:26 Radfield wrote: I've always been of the opinion that anything I can see, mafia can see. My god I wish more players understood this. In the last game on TL I was able to hide behind this fact as scum because people kept ignoring it. I was able to 'fill some space' by just pointing this point out again and again. To be clear this isn't linking saying that to scum slip or what not, I am stating that when players forget this point and post without being aware of it (by posting 'zodiac lists' and doc target lists etc) they give the scum players an easy way to post a 100% true and 100% pro-town post that doesn't set their team back. There is so many reasons not to do things like that is the point of this post. ^_^ | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 04 2011 19:38 Palmar wrote: Sup. If we assume the hosts went with the most obvious way of balancing the game, two people out of this list are scum: Radfield Palmar Jackal sandroba syllogism redFF However I would never agree with lynching based on how we perceive the hosts balance games. They could just as well have randomized it or used some other method to balance it. What I'm more interested in is that 6/25 seems like an oddly high number of mafia for a normal setup. Do you think this is offset by lower mafia KP or multiple town power roles? In addition, how would you feel about randomly lynching on day 1. I mean completely random, we just have some kinda rng generator choose our lynch for the day. Could someone explain what you think his intentions are here? I thought this idea is terrible and there's no way palmar really is suggesting that one. So I thought maybe it's thought to be some kind of trick question? Especially because of what he said later on:+ Show Spoiler + On December 04 2011 22:21 Palmar wrote: Because I knew what your answer would be, but I was unsure how it would be formulated. Your chosen path was to to deny it decisively without trashing the idea. Which is interesting. You could've been much more careful or much more aggressive, you could have absolutely trashed the idea, or you could have carefully denied it. I'm not sure how to read it though. What made you initiate a discussion with me? Normally you just call me annoying until you figure out if I'm town or scum. I mean, I have done the same thing with sandroba, but what factors control your choice of target (me) and your change in play? He said he knew the answer and just wanted to see the kind of reaction to read if someone is bashing it, perhaps to see if someones trying to bus or if someone agrees to it? Is there something I'm not getting because again I don't get why palmar should suggest such a thing, which is the reason I think it's weird because I think he should know himself that this idea is weird. both as mafia and town. Which makes me think it got a special purpose like I mentioned, which is either a way to hunt scum (which would clear him as a green) but that's wifom again or something I'm missing right now. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I'd much rather we stop talking about Palmar until he actually responds. It's far too easy for people to pop in and say "yeah Palmar is the only one who looks fishy right now". Lets drop it for 8-10 hours and have people comment on other players. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:46 Radfield wrote: Assuming he is town, he's trying to generate discussion, ANY discussion, given that it was basically the first post of the game. I'd much rather we stop talking about Palmar until he actually responds. It's far too easy for people to pop in and say "yeah Palmar is the only one who looks fishy right now". Lets drop it for 8-10 hours and have people comment on other players. Okay I just got home and I have a question for you, Rad. What are your thoughts at this point? Is there anyone that is standing out to you? | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
 For that reason it'd probably be a lurker right now because again, so far I think those mistakes which happened (or those things I thought are mistakes) are mistakes by new players who are town for the first or second time. If you want me to give you a name I'd have to read a couple filters again but I'd obviously rather see peoples reaction before lynching them. So nothing I'd say would be for granted | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:50 Erandorr wrote: Okay I just got home and I have a question for you, Rad. What are your thoughts at this point? Is there anyone that is standing out to you? Do you know what I was just thinking? I was looking at my notes and saying, hey, Erandorr said he would be gone for 6 hours and it's been almost 8. I just jotted down a nice note saying you were looking scummy if you didn't post tonight I have many thoughts at this point, but none of them are near concrete enough to be airing into the thread. There are still a half dozen players yet to post, and another half dozen who need to post more. There are several players who I am waiting and watching for them to post more on their own, without being called out. Jackal was the one I wanted to talk about, but very few players have touched on his post, and he has not weighed in either. I think so far we are doing decent, but we need more activity to call this a successful Day 1. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:53 Toadesstern wrote: right now? So far I got mostly things that make me think people are town Nothing wrong with that. It's all I really have too It's far easier to pick out town players on Day 1 than mafia players. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
Damn, this seems to sound a lot like Toadesstern's response. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On December 05 2011 09:00 Radfield wrote: Nothing wrong with that. It's all I really have too It's far easier to pick out town players on Day 1 than mafia players. Okay Radfield, this is starting to give me a bad feeling. I first noticed it when you stated that you feel like a good town atmosphere includes no arguments. You are doing a great job involving a lot of people in the conversation, but it is really, really easy to look town when there is actually not that much to comment on and scum are in no way forced to reveal information. What we have right now is a very peaceful town, but not one that is looking like it is gaining a lot of information anytime soon and you are doing very little to change that. Would you mind sharing your thoughts now, so they can be discussed and we get a better sense of your alignment at the same time? | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
The lack of votes makes the conversation more abstract. | ||
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