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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 27 2011 02:17 GMT
#1781
My first two choices would be Heir and prplhz. I think they are both posting in a way that strongly suggest knowing way more than a town player would know at this point. You can filter my posts to see the posts that outline that for both of them.

My distant 3rd would be YM.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 27 2011 02:19 GMT
#1782
On November 27 2011 11:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 11:11 vaderseven wrote:
OH good fucking point palmer you winning the vote does mean your choice of lynch is basically like someone being about to die. Youngminii SHOULD roleclaim. You are actually 100% correct I feel silly.


YM already roleclaimed vanilla town.


a quick filter later and i see that myself.

Safe to lynch at least.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 27 2011 02:20 GMT
#1783
God long day, you asking HIER to roleclaim.

I fully 100% support this for obv reasons if you see my recent posts. Would much prefer to know more about him (either through a claim or a flip) than any player in the game.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 27 2011 02:20 GMT
#1784
On November 27 2011 11:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
sinani I'm shocked you even read my posts.


that was low
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 27 2011 02:22 GMT
#1785
On November 27 2011 11:15 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 27 2011 11:04 Hier wrote:
On November 27 2011 10:51 Palmar wrote:
On November 27 2011 10:43 Hier wrote:
Even a townie can seem scummy at times. Instead of admitting that some of my points are worth considering, while insisting on retaining you town alignment, you simply call them terrible without any explanation.
On November 27 2011 10:34 Palmar wrote:
Again, what I say has nothing to do with the people I talk about and their alignment.

So you say, mafia can surely mention other mafia brethren in their discussion. It alleviates suspicion, even if slightly.
On November 27 2011 10:34 Palmar wrote:
Nothing I say can make anyone else scum, it's their own words you have to look for.

No, of course not. But the player that screams his/her intentional misinterpretation of other players' posts the loudest has a great advantage. That's how the game is played, and you and WBG are playing it correctly, because it seems the people are already starting to rally against me. It seems to be working. Good job.



You're ignoring the possibility of people voting for me because they think I make sense, and me being mad at you for using bad logic.

Your point about my campaign resting on me being good previously in mafia is okay. Until you know my alignment, you cannot deduce anything about me based on how other people respond to me. If people allowed those kind of reads, then mafia would just buddy up with town all the time to get them hanged. It's stupid.

If someone votes me with sketchy reasoning, you should go for HIM, not me.

If you're not scum, you have two options. Believe me now when I say you're using incorrect methods to scumhunt, and they will not work. Or you can make a fool of yourself this game, and then learn.

Irrelevant of my alignment, your methods suck at the moment. Try a new approach.

You are right, people may be voting for you because you make sense, not because of you campaign, or lack of. However, a player of any alignment can "make sense", it simply depends on what you are making that sense. Early game, especially of this magnitude is about appealing to the mass of people, the majority of which are town aligned. Late game, though I have not seen it yet, I think will be very different.

It is interesting how my original post was merely an expression of opinion, not a scumhunt, I thought it would go largely ignored. But it would appear that the mafia have taken note of my post, to my dismay. WBG ignored my question, but tell me, am I dangerous to you, mafia?

You are also ultimately right about varying methods to playing the game. In the early stages key words, such as 'hypocrite', and intentionally diverging the attention of people off of main points of the discussion, where such a discussion can be detrimental to the mafia, are all excellent tools. As I already said, I will attempt to use them.


you would not be dangerous to me if I were mafia because you are not making any sense.

Any good scum player will agree that only townies who make sense are a threat to them. As scum, I'm not threatened by people who use bad logic.


Hmm... you keep ignoring the fact that the basis of me thinking you are scum is not the ordeal with sinani. This is becoming rather stale, for an attempt at getting the town to lynch me. It may eventually work, because people search for keywords, not reading the entire posts. But... such poor moves are so tasteless and boring. No style at all.


Sorry, you just keep getting worse, don't you?

lolol.

This is the last time I'll spell it out.

You call BC scum because his plan was bad.

You say that me calling sandro scum because I put disproportionate weight on him pushing sinani is a scummy thing of me to do.

I tell you that you just contradicted yourself because you are, by definition, putting disproportionate weight on one thing that BC did in order to call him scum.

You are failing to see how your own logic can be turned against you. This is why you are a hypocrite, this is why you are using bad logic, and this is (partly) why you are scum.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 27 2011 02:22 GMT
#1786
On November 27 2011 11:20 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 11:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
sinani I'm shocked you even read my posts.


that was low


<3
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 27 2011 02:26 GMT
#1787
Its funny how I don't even really agree with half the things being said about Heir but the things that I think he has done that are scummy make me think he is still the most likely to flip scum today.

To me, that means he is scummy from MANY different points of view to a degree thats kinda funny for a day 1.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
November 27 2011 02:31 GMT
#1788
On November 27 2011 11:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 11:15 Hier wrote:
On November 27 2011 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 27 2011 11:04 Hier wrote:
On November 27 2011 10:51 Palmar wrote:
On November 27 2011 10:43 Hier wrote:
Even a townie can seem scummy at times. Instead of admitting that some of my points are worth considering, while insisting on retaining you town alignment, you simply call them terrible without any explanation.
On November 27 2011 10:34 Palmar wrote:
Again, what I say has nothing to do with the people I talk about and their alignment.

So you say, mafia can surely mention other mafia brethren in their discussion. It alleviates suspicion, even if slightly.
On November 27 2011 10:34 Palmar wrote:
Nothing I say can make anyone else scum, it's their own words you have to look for.

No, of course not. But the player that screams his/her intentional misinterpretation of other players' posts the loudest has a great advantage. That's how the game is played, and you and WBG are playing it correctly, because it seems the people are already starting to rally against me. It seems to be working. Good job.



You're ignoring the possibility of people voting for me because they think I make sense, and me being mad at you for using bad logic.

Your point about my campaign resting on me being good previously in mafia is okay. Until you know my alignment, you cannot deduce anything about me based on how other people respond to me. If people allowed those kind of reads, then mafia would just buddy up with town all the time to get them hanged. It's stupid.

If someone votes me with sketchy reasoning, you should go for HIM, not me.

If you're not scum, you have two options. Believe me now when I say you're using incorrect methods to scumhunt, and they will not work. Or you can make a fool of yourself this game, and then learn.

Irrelevant of my alignment, your methods suck at the moment. Try a new approach.

You are right, people may be voting for you because you make sense, not because of you campaign, or lack of. However, a player of any alignment can "make sense", it simply depends on what you are making that sense. Early game, especially of this magnitude is about appealing to the mass of people, the majority of which are town aligned. Late game, though I have not seen it yet, I think will be very different.

It is interesting how my original post was merely an expression of opinion, not a scumhunt, I thought it would go largely ignored. But it would appear that the mafia have taken note of my post, to my dismay. WBG ignored my question, but tell me, am I dangerous to you, mafia?

You are also ultimately right about varying methods to playing the game. In the early stages key words, such as 'hypocrite', and intentionally diverging the attention of people off of main points of the discussion, where such a discussion can be detrimental to the mafia, are all excellent tools. As I already said, I will attempt to use them.


you would not be dangerous to me if I were mafia because you are not making any sense.

Any good scum player will agree that only townies who make sense are a threat to them. As scum, I'm not threatened by people who use bad logic.


Hmm... you keep ignoring the fact that the basis of me thinking you are scum is not the ordeal with sinani. This is becoming rather stale, for an attempt at getting the town to lynch me. It may eventually work, because people search for keywords, not reading the entire posts. But... such poor moves are so tasteless and boring. No style at all.


Sorry, you just keep getting worse, don't you?

lolol.

This is the last time I'll spell it out.

You call BC scum because his plan was bad.

You say that me calling sandro scum because I put disproportionate weight on him pushing sinani is a scummy thing of me to do.

I tell you that you just contradicted yourself because you are, by definition, putting disproportionate weight on one thing that BC did in order to call him scum.

You are failing to see how your own logic can be turned against you. This is why you are a hypocrite, this is why you are using bad logic, and this is (partly) why you are scum.

I called BC scum not because his plan was bad, but because it had the potential to be utilized in favor of mafia. In turn, have YOU read any of MY posts? I have rather explicitly stated so.

My secondary point about you was the fact that your only argument against Sandro was something that had no relation to mafia whatsoever.

I have never contradicted myself. If anybody has doubts, please filter me and read some of my posts.

It seems I was wrong about the game. It is not a game of logic, but rather of emotions. I'm afraid I will get lynched quickly because I am not good about controlling someone else's emotions.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 27 2011 02:35 GMT
#1789
On November 27 2011 08:20 Hier wrote:
BC
-The original creator of the DT plan. It is likely WBG modified it, as opposed to advising BC behind the curtains to fix it, because they wanted to create an extra face to compete in the elections, diluting the suspicions.


...

BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51379 Posts
November 27 2011 02:36 GMT
#1790
morning everybody

heres the thing as to why my entire view towards the game turned so damn fast,Its simple I shat my pants at how much information was thrown right off the bat, and as a newbie if find it really daunting(dunno about other newbies).

that aside,its true that if the town needs to win I need to voice myself, but from what I see day 1 is useless and that my scumreading is subpar at best and its a given that I can't meta either.

I can only post if I feel like i'm contributing which, again here I'm not and just making excuses like wbg says I am.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 27 2011 02:36 GMT
#1791
I'd be happy to see YM or Serejai flip. Heir looks scummy but I got a feeling he's new and just doesn't know what to do.
Could be I'm paranoid after my last 2 games.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 27 2011 02:37 GMT
#1792
On November 27 2011 11:31 Hier wrote:
It seems I was wrong about the game. It is not a game of logic, but rather of emotions. I'm afraid I will get lynched quickly because I am not good about controlling someone else's emotions.


EMO posting like that, in my experience, is very anti-town and a scum sign. The only thing worse than what you posted would be to self vote or say 'i quit blah blah'.

Mafia isn't as much logic (wifom breaks most logic trains) and it isn't about emotions except when people get frustrated and play bad (as scum or town) as it is a game of information. What information do you have and does that guy have and how does that guy have it. Beyond that it is a glorified guessing game. It can be a bit of a game of aggression when there is a large mix of newbs and vets like this setup has but when you have a game of all vets this point actually fails to come into play at all because everyone just, correctly, ignores the aggression.

I would like you to move on from what you have been slapfighting over and instead please roleclaim (unless palmer posts a sudden change of heart about having his eye on you to die in the next 30 minutes) and post your thoughts on other players in the game. That is by far the most helpful pro town thing you can do.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 27 2011 02:38 GMT
#1793
All in favour of hier or ym being the lynch target?


I am good for either of them at this point
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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#1794
On November 27 2011 11:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
morning everybody

heres the thing as to why my entire view towards the game turned so damn fast,Its simple I shat my pants at how much information was thrown right off the bat, and as a newbie if find it really daunting(dunno about other newbies).

that aside,its true that if the town needs to win I need to voice myself, but from what I see day 1 is useless and that my scumreading is subpar at best and its a given that I can't meta either.

I can only post if I feel like i'm contributing which, again here I'm not and just making excuses like wbg says I am.


To you and any other newer players:

It is so important and pro town for everyone to post anything that they think can add to any discussion. What might seem like useless over information will REALLY help the town out in the alter stages of the game. The more times a person has posted the more we can look for hints of hidden information slip ups.

If you think you see something going on that isn't being talked about then post it! If you see something being said that you agree with post that!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 27 2011 02:41 GMT
#1795
On November 27 2011 11:37 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 11:31 Hier wrote:
It seems I was wrong about the game. It is not a game of logic, but rather of emotions. I'm afraid I will get lynched quickly because I am not good about controlling someone else's emotions.


EMO posting like that, in my experience, is very anti-town and a scum sign. The only thing worse than what you posted would be to self vote or say 'i quit blah blah'.


That exactly my point. I've been there, I've already seen that. You know what? the guy flipped green and I think his emo is going to flip green as well because of that. wbg and palmar you saw that game as well and talked about it in that observer qt. Am I the only one who sees the connections between those 2 things?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 27 2011 02:41 GMT
#1796
On November 27 2011 11:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 11:20 sinani206 wrote:
On November 27 2011 11:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
sinani I'm shocked you even read my posts.


that was low


<3


Im hurt you missed my post on the bottom of 89.

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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 27 2011 02:42 GMT
#1797
OK, so I'm officially terminating my campaign for mayor because of lack of support. Palmar will (sadly) most likely win the mayoral election so those of us who are not voting for Palmar should consolidate our votes onto sandroba or BC to choose the Sheriff. As I have previously expressed, sandroba is scum, so I will be voting for (and officially endorsing) BC.

##Unvote: sinani206
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler


Onto the discussion of who to lynch, I dislike greatly youngminii and I like Serejai, who is doing a last minute troll campaign. I also like Nisani201, Kurumi, and Hier as lynches.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 27 2011 02:42 GMT
#1798
I'll be lynching YM

Hier will be stuck on the DT check list, and will be strongly considered for tomorrow's lynch.

I will post the DT check list when I wake up, I do not 100% agree with WBG's version of the list.
Computer says mafia
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
November 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#1799
WBG, what is it that irks you about that quote?

As I have pointed out earlier, your case against Sandro had little to do with mafia itself, where as my case against BC and you, in fact, did.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
November 27 2011 02:44 GMT
#1800
On November 27 2011 11:31 Hier wrote:
It seems I was wrong about the game. It is not a game of logic, but rather of emotions. I'm afraid I will get lynched quickly because I am not good about controlling someone else's emotions.


Lol, you're cute.

>> Complain about it not being a game of logic
Doesn't stop you from using invalid logic in your own posts.

>> Complain about game being about emotions
Tries to appeal to emotion.

Computer says mafia
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