EPTTL Mafia XLVII - Page 249
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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MarserBlood
Netherlands28 Posts
On December 03 2011 01:58 Lanaia wrote: Okay, can the dead people GTFO of the thread? It's kind of distracting. Personally, I'm not sure if I want to accept the draw offer or not. I want to at least try to win otherwise I will feel like a failure, but I know the odds of that aren't in my favour. Assuming a majority hasn't been reached, I'll be posting again after I get home from class. Slept in x.x Problem is, town can't win without luck. We need brilliant scumhunting AND luck with the PR's to win the game. Since this game is supposed to be about analysis and deduction, it's a bit of a shame to keep playing for (maybe) 3 more weeks without having the chance to win only with good scumhunting. I therefore think it's better for everyone to vote for draw, so we can start a new game that is going to be fun again. So if it makes you feel better, losing due to luck isn't failling in my opinion. | ||
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ey215
United States546 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
That is the most abusive form of breaking the rule in question and I gave it as an example to help make it clear what the goal of the rule is. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
a) Risen was modkilled for editing a post but risk.nuke also edited a post and was not modkilled b) Multiple inactive players have not been modkilled while others have c) Replacements seem manipulated. It's hard to believe that with all these inactive modkills not a single one has been mafia yet. The odds of that are just extremely low | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:17 Serejai wrote: I have to second the consistency thing... not because of what redFF posted, but because a) Risen was modkilled for editing a post but risk.nuke also edited a post and was not modkilled b) Multiple inactive players have not been modkilled while others have c) Replacements seem manipulated. It's hard to believe that with all these inactive modkills not a single one has been mafia yet. The odds of that are just extremely low I agree with this. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9856 Posts
On November 30 2011 07:32 vaderseven wrote: lol thats awful. I dont even know what to say. This game was almost certainlly balanced for 80 people which means this much inactive town pretty much is gg with no effort ezmode for scum.  In this quote you slipped that the modkills would be town, now you agree that the replacements must be scum? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Even if that means posting one liners and only voting randomly they still stick around. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Duh. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Townies will learn something from the cases that were posted day 1 and day 2 and the mistakes they made. What will scum learn? Probably nothing. IMO this should serve as a message why activity is so damn important for towns. As long as TL players continue to go inactive due to ADD or whatever causes them to flake after 24 hours, TL towns will pay the price. Town play as a whole isn't bad; when townies here are active and play decently, scumteams get wrecked because none of them actually know how to handle a good town. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Verdict: Scum Soap is a first-time player. He opens with + Show Spoiler + On November 26 2011 10:44 Soap wrote: Ugh, there's so little information and scum are free to bury any tell under piles of nonsense and fingerpointing, as I'm sure it's being done. This will be most valuable in retrospective and I feel town should simulate a close vote to entice mafia to root for their candidate(s), but Palmer flew away in the popularity contest. So I'm protest voting for sinani206. On November 26 2011 12:15 Soap wrote: Use the [unparsable timestamp format] Tuesday, Jun 22 9:00am BRT (GMT-03:00) Converts a date to the viewers timezone. Worthless posts. Note how he's trying to appear helpful without actually adding anything to the discussion. WBG and Palmer call him out for this. WBG mostly says he's a useless lurker. His responses: + Show Spoiler + On November 27 2011 11:52 Soap wrote: Sorry if I didn't make myself clear in my first post. As a newbie I know nothing metagame, which is about everything this early. If I go out of my way to catch up with the veterans, bad analysis would harm town and good analysis would make mafia drop me in ten seconds flat. Once we have actual hard data to put against what I'm witnessing first hand I can make myself useful. On November 27 2011 12:19 Soap wrote: Uh, you mean I should volunteer to be sacrificial lamb? If I do stupid shit mafia would rather have me alive. Excuses, no commitment, and most of all, no real attempts to do anything useful. And then, he's silent for a couple of days, before the "lol everyone swap votes at the last minute" debacle. He did not swap votes at the last minute, but he voted ahead of time, and this was he votes for Risen and WBG, 3 hours before deadline. He made no posts in the discussion thread at this point. In the aftermath of the voteswitch... On December 01 2011 08:01 Soap wrote: Funny thing is I was intent on doing a last minute vote change to Palmar and BC, but my internet went out for the second night in a row like 2 hours before the deadline. Would be a totally different game. How did the tie between BC and zeks was broken? So let's think about this for a moment. Worthless, spam votes hidden in 3rd and 4th-placing people. Complete lack of any attempt at discussion. Explaining his "internet outage" as the reason for his voting pattern, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ADMITTING HE WAS PLANNING ON A LAST MINUTE VOTE CHANGE... One more thing. Soap's internet was not broken on the night of Wednesday, November the 30th. No, not at all. If it was, it must have been broken for a very narrow timeframe. It was working the night before at 8 pm: On November 30 2011 08:42 Soap wrote: I unvoted Hier, not wbg ##Unvote: Ace ##Vote: Risen And it was working on the December 1st at 3 am: On December 01 2011 03:51 Soap wrote: The link to this thread in the Fantasy page points to the previous one, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215986 What this indicates to me is that Soap's internet was working just fine. Why's that? Look at his post. This isn't a "I literally just logged in and wrote this" post. This is a "I was doing something, found a link that was broken, and decided to write about it over here" post. Soap, my friends, was active and online that night. If, in fact, Soap's internet was broken, it was broken for an extremely short period of time-- starting sometime within a couple hours before the deadline and stretching until just after. After being, well, characteristically helpful, Soap returns to the thread: On December 02 2011 10:27 Soap wrote: Hai! I first voted sandroba for mayor because Palmar pushed him and that would be stupid if he was scum, then I got fed up with the shallow campaigns and voted sinani for the lulz. Then wbg took over the thread with mostly lists and OMGUS (spammer = scum amirite?) but noone else seemed to bother so I grew disinterested in posting, but I've been following closely. Pleask ask if there's something else I could fill. On December 02 2011 10:30 Soap wrote: ##Vote: wherebugsgo ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler Soap is either scum and trying to subvert our vote, or lying about having read the thread, or he'd be voting the way everyone else is. HE claims that he's been voting "for the lulz" and that he's lurking, and that those of us who contribute are scum and he is silent because he's not. I don't buy it. My body is not a sturdy cardboard cylinder. My head is not made out of hard, sweetened candy. I am not a sucker. Soap is scum. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:07 Blazinghand wrote: Pro tip: when claiming your internet was broken, don't log into the site and post stuff ;_; EBWOP: ._. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Decent find though! | ||
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