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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 15:48 GMT
#2001
On November 27 2011 23:48 sandroba wrote:
Palmar tell me what you think about zeks.


Quick read gives me leaning town, assuming he's completely new.

From the way he casually calls two campaigns joke campaigns, and says he doesn't care for mine, he's posting like someone who doesn't have anything to fear or hide.

Even his "Wow, I got destroyed" post feels like something a townie would do.

I have no interest in him being on the list at the moment.

Did you have any particular reason for asking about him specifically?
Computer says mafia
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50001 Posts
November 27 2011 15:50 GMT
#2002
On November 27 2011 23:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 23:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm not scum,don't waste your lynch on my please.


At what point in the game can we expect you to actually start playing it?


once the game actually gets rolling and its not just you and various other vets eating each others and my head.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 15:50 GMT
#2003
i make my case early on and i make it clear and concise.

when people ignore it or overlook it, i try to state my case in other, but similar, words, hoping that it sinks in.

sooner or later it either sinks in or they all flip red. but i am not someone who gives up a fight in mafia if i believe i am right.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 27 2011 15:51 GMT
#2004
blind rawr: thats what this game IS all about.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 15:52 GMT
#2005
Btw, docs:

syllogism
jackal
sandroba
tyrran
risk.nuke
wherebugsgo
kitaman27
redFF
prplhz
deconduo

These guys are all good players. I am posting this list with complete disregard of their alignment. But if you want to protect someone, you should read the filters for these players ( Link to all filters ) And deduce which ones are town and which ones are scum. These people are all worth protecting if they're town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 15:54 GMT
#2006
On November 28 2011 00:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 23:45 Palmar wrote:
On November 27 2011 23:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm not scum,don't waste your lynch on my please.


At what point in the game can we expect you to actually start playing it?


once the game actually gets rolling and its not just you and various other vets eating each others and my head.


I have kindly provided a link to every player's filter in the game.

How would you feel about reading through 3 of them (you can select the players yourself) and writing me a short analysis of what you think about each of those three players, along with whether you think they're town or scum, based on the information you have.

Can you do that? That'd actually be super, super helpful.
Computer says mafia
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 27 2011 16:03 GMT
#2007
On November 28 2011 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, docs:

syllogism
jackal
sandroba
tyrran
risk.nuke
wherebugsgo
kitaman27
redFF
prplhz
deconduo

These guys are all good players. I am posting this list with complete disregard of their alignment. But if you want to protect someone, you should read the filters for these players ( Link to all filters ) And deduce which ones are town and which ones are scum. These people are all worth protecting if they're town.


+ LSB and bumatlarge

Erandorr and tnkted are also decent.

And if WBG is on the list, Supersoft should be there as well.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 27 2011 16:04 GMT
#2008
On November 28 2011 00:48 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 23:48 sandroba wrote:
Palmar tell me what you think about zeks.


Quick read gives me leaning town, assuming he's completely new.

From the way he casually calls two campaigns joke campaigns, and says he doesn't care for mine, he's posting like someone who doesn't have anything to fear or hide.

Even his "Wow, I got destroyed" post feels like something a townie would do.

I have no interest in him being on the list at the moment.

Did you have any particular reason for asking about him specifically?

If you read his posts you would see he is not new at all. He especifically mentioned he played several games with BC and is making a comeback to mafia. However he is behaving like he was completely new to the game and give off a vibe that his opinion should be ignored. Even in that part he says "wow, I got destroyed" means he is not sticking up with his previous opinion, which he stated was from past experience. He is avoiding conflict and running away from the spotlight. That to me is typical scum behaviour.

I thought you would read him more carefully since I especifically pointed him to you. Do you agree with my acessment?
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 27 2011 16:05 GMT
#2009
On November 28 2011 00:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 23:45 Palmar wrote:
On November 27 2011 23:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm not scum,don't waste your lynch on my please.


At what point in the game can we expect you to actually start playing it?


once the game actually gets rolling and its not just you and various other vets eating each others and my head.

I'm actually going to go after the next person who uses this lame excuse. The last 30 pages consist of some people trying to play and others popping in to inform us how everyting is rubbish.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 27 2011 16:06 GMT
#2010
What is the point of posting a medic list disregarding alignment at this point. Even decon who you supposedly agree is scummy made the list. Good god.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 27 2011 16:08 GMT
#2011
Newbie question.
How do we know they are medics?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 27 2011 16:12 GMT
#2012
On November 28 2011 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, docs:

syllogism
jackal
sandroba
tyrran
risk.nuke
wherebugsgo
kitaman27
redFF
prplhz
deconduo

These guys are all good players. I am posting this list with complete disregard of their alignment. But if you want to protect someone, you should read the filters for these players ( Link to all filters ) And deduce which ones are town and which ones are scum. These people are all worth protecting if they're town.

On November 28 2011 01:06 sandroba wrote:
What is the point of posting a medic list disregarding alignment at this point. Even decon who you supposedly agree is scummy made the list. Good god.

the bold bit seems to be the key part, Palmer is consistently urging people to read through filters either by explicity telling them to or saying that he is (so they should to)
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 27 2011 16:14 GMT
#2013
On November 28 2011 01:08 Steveling wrote:
Newbie question.
How do we know they are medics?


Sorry but I laughed pretty hard at this.

They're not the medics, they're people Palmar is suggesting could be good targets for medics. As medic you want to protect active people who are town aligned and capable of playing well. I'm on that list but, disregarding how well I might be able to play, I don't really feel very confident in big games like this and should probably not be protected tonight. But it's up to the medics.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
November 27 2011 16:15 GMT
#2014
On November 28 2011 01:08 Steveling wrote:
Newbie question.
How do we know they are medics?

His list is players he would like to direct medics too. We don't know who medics are.
DT check lists, medic protect lists, vig lists. Stop it. It's like a traffic cop directing lemmings over a cliff.
Life can only kill you once.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 27 2011 16:16 GMT
#2015
Except that a list of veterans has already been posted by several people, he excluded several people and if he is trying to acomplish anything with that list he should direct people to those who he thinks are town. Being aparently worried about newbies protecting the wrong people, but not providing advice on who to protect are conflicting stances that really just seems like a fake atempt at a contribution.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 16:19 GMT
#2016
On November 28 2011 01:03 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw, docs:

syllogism
jackal
sandroba
tyrran
risk.nuke
wherebugsgo
kitaman27
redFF
prplhz
deconduo

These guys are all good players. I am posting this list with complete disregard of their alignment. But if you want to protect someone, you should read the filters for these players ( Link to all filters ) And deduce which ones are town and which ones are scum. These people are all worth protecting if they're town.


+ LSB and bumatlarge

Erandorr and tnkted are also decent.

And if WBG is on the list, Supersoft should be there as well.


I definitely agree with LSB and Bum, forgot them because the player list hasn't been updated.

tnkted, maybe. Erandorr and Supersoft... not yet.
Computer says mafia
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 27 2011 16:25 GMT
#2017
So I don't quite get this. You post a list with people you believe that play the game well and you want to protect them in case they are town?
I think forming lists so early in the game is just meant to guide people according to your plans.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 27 2011 16:25 GMT
#2018
Palmar, please comment on what I've said about zeks.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
November 27 2011 16:27 GMT
#2019
On November 28 2011 01:06 sandroba wrote:
What is the point of posting a medic list disregarding alignment at this point. Even decon who you supposedly agree is scummy made the list. Good god.


don't put up that act sandroba. The entire point is to get people to read the game. I put in more time that almost everyone in this game, and I have a very hard time reading everything I should be reading.

These are ideas for people to form their own opinions. I cannot post a detailed analysis on every target on this list. Can you?

regarding zeks, if he is indeed someone who's played mafia before, I would remove the newbie-leniency and write him up as null at the moment. In which case I'm fine with including him on the list as your contribution to it.
Computer says mafia
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
November 27 2011 16:31 GMT
#2020
If I see another post telling town power roles who to target I am going to flip a desk. Directing town power roles is scummy in that it it falsely gives the appearance of helping to increase the effectiveness of their abilities. Directing town power roles is only going to help set up a dual pattern of power roles doing what the thread tells them, thus making them easy as fuck to predict as scum. Stop directing power roles RIGHT NOW.
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