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I think this game is going to be pretty cool. The multilynch mechanic scares me, though. | ||
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In regards to liars and lurkers: I've always liked to lynch both as typically it teaches people not to lie or to lurk (less so with the lurking). Lurking makes people hard to read, which has a tendency to piss me off and lying is a pain in the ass because how do we know that's the only thing said person has lied about? More later. Classtime now. | ||
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I didn't see your post before I posted. | ||
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I have a question. Why should we be lynching any more than two people today? Part of me thinks that is a terrible idea; however, the closer we get to lylo, the less we can do that, correct? Also, wherebugsgo hurts my brain a little bit. | ||
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I've read chaoser's iso and I terribly want to believe he is town but my gut begs to differ with me. So I think I'm going to have to vote him :/ ##Vote:Chaoser | ||
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##unvote: Chaoser ##vote sinani206 There is no way I am letting kenpachi/chaoser get lynched over sinani based on what I've seen so far in this game. And yes, chaoser, I know I was your king but you died on me! That was a little bit rude of you to do, though. Now, I think I have an idea but first it is bacon time. | ||
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I just fail to understand why you guys would rather lynch him over sinani. That is the only reason I did it. Also, in retrospect, I have no idea why the hell I did that d1. That should be changed soon. | ||
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Sorry I'm an idiot. | ||
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I've removed the antivote. It'll take a little while to show up. :/ Again, to everyone playing: I'm sorry I'm an idiot. However, that being said... idiot != scum I thought it was a good idea at the time. Anyhow, I'll be back after class. Hopefully you guys will chill out by then. Greymist: Yes, I do. From what I've seen of his town play in the past, I felt he was town. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. I have to go right now, but as soon as I'm back from class (around 4 pm PST, it's nearly two now) I will try to explain more. | ||
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I was most definitely aware it would show my anti-vote when I submitted it. On November 17 2011 06:56 Drazerk wrote: I got the null void that I always get from kenpachi what exactly led you to believing he was town? He just felt more town to me than some of the other people in game.I felt trying to save someone I'd thought was town was a good idea, at least at that point in time. On November 17 2011 06:58 Drazerk wrote: Lanaia one last question - Was you aware your anti vote would appear in the vote list? I knew it would appear in the votelist with my name attached, yes. On November 17 2011 07:06 Zephirdd wrote: Kenpachi is saying a lot and defending himself a lot, but isn't giving anything conclusive. I already voted him to "pressure" him to give a good reasoning/analysis on the game(similar to Palmar's), but it's no use. The vote stands, and won't go back. That said, I'd like to know Lanaia's reasoning for the anti-vote, and WHY to take it back right now. I believe you had a good reasoning for Kenpachi to be town this game, and I want to know it. I also believe you were not aware that the Anti-Vote would show your name. However, why take it back? Why not just explain yourself later on(when you have the time), and convince people that Kenpachi is actually town? Why just let him die like that, are you trying to remove any "connections" people made between you and him? Or did you actually change your mind and are trying to actually lynch him? (Or are you Mafia trying to save your ass by team-killing?) It just feels scummy imo. ##Vote: Lanaia I took it back because people got all pissy at me. And people getting pissy at me frustrates me. I've already said I'm terrible at convincing people. And if I were trying to lynch him, I'd have a vote on him, no? And no, I am not mafia trying to save my ass because that would not be the best way to go about it. I was most definitely aware it would show my anti-vote when I submitted it. I don't care if you don't believe me. Now I am going to finish reading the game. | ||
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Oh, and I didn't consult with town because that would essentially mean a full role claim d1- not something I wanted to do. CLEARLY I SCREWED SOMETHING UP. | ||
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YES, I SCREWED UP... But we already have one person dead because of something I did. We really should not be lynching three people on the first day, or at least WE SHOULD MAKE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAID VERY LITTLE SO FAR. Wouldn't it be a pity if kenpachi, chaoser and I are all town? I know I'm town, kenpachi's actions since he've died feel town, and chaoser does not feel as scummy as some other people do. Do we really want to lose three town on a first day lynch? I just looked through the OPs and I'm having trouble finding something. Is this like other TL mafia games in which mafia has more than one KP or is this like games I'm used to on MS where mafia only has one KP? | ||
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On November 17 2011 09:36 Palmar wrote: you're the one that needs to die, kenpachi wasn't a must, but getting rid of him is fine anyway. and chaoser is scum, so we need to kill him. I'm sorry, but can you 100% explain to me why I need to die still? I've explained everything. I knew the antivote was going to appear, and does it really matter, CONSIDERING I could remove it? Or is it something other than that? | ||
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On November 17 2011 09:42 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Stop apologising. Give us your opinion on how we should proceed with the rest of the day. Staying in the 'Kenpachi actually got lynched' mindset when we could be scum hunting is detrimental. We should probably get the lurkers to post, really. I'm sure that would help us out a bit. I mean, it's fairly hard to read people who don't talk and compare behaviour when a fairly sizable chunk of the game is saying next to nothing (and has very few posts). Generating conversation is good; however, it tends to be better when the conversation isn't simply focusing on 2/3 people when there are a ton who aren't speaking. | ||
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On November 17 2011 09:48 wherebugsgo wrote: Also Lanaia this is really bothering me, but for whatever reason I feel inclined to use female pronouns whenever I refer to you. It's completely irrelevant to the game but unless you have a preference I'm just going to keep calling you by your name lol. Lanaia is my real name and I am female, so refer to me as whatever you want in regards to that. | ||
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On November 17 2011 19:53 Tyrran wrote: @Lanaia : So you did not want to claim d1, yet you used your anti-vote fully aware that he would show up?? This contradiction is the reason i still think you migth be scum. Conclusion Likely scum : Drazerk, Hyshes, Palmar, Hiroruby, Sinani206 Likely Town : Lanaia, LemonWalrus, GreyMisT, Zephirrd Confirmed Town: risk.Nuke. This is based on this analysis alone, I ignored on purpose most of the post that did not relate to the Kenpachi/lanaia Case. The goal was to find potential scum, we still need to confirm them ! I think we should not lynch anyone for now. If Kenpachi does not flip red, Focus on the likely scum above. If not, we lynched a red :D, and back to the drawing board, to re use risk.nuke wording. What do you guys think ? I would love some feedback on this. It is because I am a goddamn idiot. Also, I agree with your reads. On November 18 2011 01:48 Sabin010 wrote: im a native speaker and still havent figured that one out bro. It is most definitely then. Okay, dammit, what was I going to say. I've forgotten... I think I am going to vote Drazerk as he does feel fairly scummy to me at this moment (after reading his ISO and people's cases on him). On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote: Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try This in particular bothers me a lot. Especially the ending there, "will never be lynched even if they try." Certainly feels like someone is full of himself. ##Vote: Drazerk | ||
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On November 18 2011 10:58 wherebugsgo wrote: In addition, Lanaia's anti-vote on him meant that we NEEDED to lynch one of them. There was no choice, we need the information. If one of them is scum the other is almost guaranteed to be scum, simply because an anti-vote on day 1 like that is incredibly scummy. Notice how Lanaia has had almost no thread presence since then. If kenpachi flips scum then this is probably why. She excused herself and said sorry and now has had no influence on town concerns at all. One: I had class all day today. Two: my teachers announced exams after this game started so I've been studying as well. Indeed it's a shame they were both town. I really did not expect sinani to be town. Kenpachi's role was kinda cool. And right now, I'm not sure what to say. It's been a while since I last played on TL and don't really know what to talk about at night. | ||
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On November 18 2011 23:50 Palmar wrote: I was under the impression Lanaia has played quite a bit on globalgamers (IRC mafia) I recall something about that from PTP2. If I'm wrong, well then I'm sorry I guess. IRC mafia is not the same as forum mafia. I am a hell of a lot better at IRC mafia than at forum mafia. Also, I'm really sorry if I don't post much within the next... 12 hours (unless the highway is shut down, I'll be working tonight). I hate this feeling I have. I want everyone who is currently active to be town (though that is highly unlikely). Right now, I feel that only one of chaoser and Palmar can be scum (leaning Palmar); however they could technically be both town, but I get the feeling scum would not try to bus day one, am I correct in thinking this? | ||
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On November 19 2011 06:43 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Palmar, WBG, and Chaoser: Please stop shitting all over the thread with your shouting matches. This is one quote I am fully behind. ALSO can we stop mentioning games that aren't this game? I kind of fail to see how it is relevant given the game will never be the same, even if the same people are in it (not the case here), same roles (not the case), and everyone is the same alignment as last time (unlikely as we don't have the same people). Also: On November 19 2011 08:24 Palmar wrote: Why are you reading the filter when you need to be reading the thread and applying context in order to legitimately find scum? The filter is fine, but whenever you find something you have to read the context the quote is said in. I do not disagree with Palmar's uh, what's the word... approach to scum hunting here. Also, I'm really starting to get pissed off with people just quoting and saying shit like "k" or "lol." Or even not quoting and just saying that stuff. It's NOT productive in the slightest AND contributes to the fact we are at page 66 already. Don't complain about the amount of pages if you are one of the people who contributed to it in such a way as I just mentioned. Also, just saw that LSB died. I was not expecting that, to be honest (however I have no idea who I would have expected in the first place). Now, I don't understand why Drazerk is voting me, and I'm not fully sure I want to understand why he's voting me. Again, as with yesterday, I still believe Drazerk to be scum. ##vote: Drazerk I think I'm going to have to reread the thread for anything else, though. | ||
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I suppose I'm super terrible at reading anyone this game. Rereading, will hopefully have something to say later. | ||
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On November 20 2011 05:11 GreYMisT wrote: The phrase "guys I don't think sinani is scum, here is why..." sounds a lot more rational and thought out than STOP VOTING. All caps implies that you have to add emphasis to your wrods because they lack depth/meaning. I wouldn't be surprised if more people feel the same. Also, you didn't say "stop voting", you said "less on sinani" which forumite pointed out earlier does not adequately get you point across. I very much agree with this post. And I've reread this entire thread and I'm having trouble. Very few people scream out to me anything that isn't null. This is basically all gut. I currently believe Nisani to be scum. ##vote:Nisani201 I would like to hear more from Coagulation and bumatlarge as well, though. | ||
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So I've read what's happened since page 77/78 (whenever I last posted). prplhz's reactions in the last few pages have really bothered me. I'm going to vote him. His case on risk is not the greatest. ##vote: prplhz | ||
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DCwhatever's most recent post kind of scares me in regards to Nisani. I'm sorry, Nisani. Do we want to actually lynch more than one person today? Is it in our best interests and is it in our best interests to make that one of Palmar/chaoser like some people have been saying? | ||
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First to reread my role PM. And that wasn't helpful. STOP THE PRESSES I need to do something. I might be able to save him. How much time do we have left? I like MrZentor, btw. | ||
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I voted him myself... How many people L+1 or L+2'd him? Just zentor? | ||
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Well, do we want to lynch someone else? | ||
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On November 22 2011 09:54 MrZentor wrote: Sorry 'bout that. Not that it helps any, but ##Unvote: prplhz Really? Because I thought I made a terrible first impression. You seemed nice. And I'm going to do this... ##vote:Nisani201 | ||
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On November 23 2011 02:30 Palmar wrote: It's not like your astonishing contributions to the game leave you in any danger of being killed. It's not that. I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about others. | ||
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I don't disagree with how Tyrran posted his blue reads. But I can say he is not correct on what my role is. Cyber_Cheese may have only known about what happened to Tyrran at night based on someone else's claim (prplhz) so he may be very well incorrect there. I'm not sure where he got the idea of you not being roleblocked (maybe just assumed you'd claim that) and assumed you weren't attacked as you may have said something about that, having been protected. Right now, I have no idea who I should vote, though there are several people who I will not vote due to feeling they are town. All I really know is that we do need to lynch scum today. And it kind of bothers me RoL is on me. I will be back after class. <3 | ||
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On November 24 2011 05:42 GreYMisT wrote: What exactly pressured you to claim right then? to save nisani? I fail to understand how his claim would have saved Nisani in any way, shape, or form. On November 24 2011 05:56 hyshes wrote: btw anyone who votes for me i declare retarded (at least for this game) I second the declaration. Also WHAT THE HELL COAG. You lurk, come back, and vote everyone with no explanation. Are you even freaking playing this game? That actually really makes me angry. What do you think you are doing? Seriously? If you're actually going to vote everyone, EVEN THE CONFIRMED TOWN THAT WE HAVE, you damn well better have a good reason. I'm actually willing to lynch him because of this combined with the lack of content and how little he has been speaking compared to how much I'm used to from him. However, I do think Nisani may be right in regards to this post: On November 24 2011 06:34 Nisani201 wrote: I would not recommend voting Coagulation. I am almost certain he is trying to draw votes to himself for whatever reason. Also, did Lemonwalrus fall off the planet or have I just missed his most recent posts? | ||
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I really like the idea of a bot for forum mafia. Zona, I am fairly impressed. Good job. <3 | ||
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On November 24 2011 06:48 xsksc wrote: Lanaia, I'm kinda curious about you. You claimed blue very early on, why are you still alive? I never claimed. I showed an aspect. And I have no idea. Anti-voting doesn't seem threatening to scum, I suppose. Maybe they're going to paint me as scum later on. I cannot say why I am alive when I have no idea what scum's motivation is. On November 24 2011 06:50 Palmar wrote: Lanaia, you are not allowed to be mad at people for doing stupid stuff unless you yourself don't do stupid stuff. I'm not allowed to be mad at someone who votes everyone alive in the game after not posting for ages? I haven't done anything stupid since day 1. At least I'm trying to play the game. | ||
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Now, I'm sorry, but I'm not 100% sure how active I'll be tomorrow as it will be hyper stressful for me. | ||
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On November 24 2011 23:53 xsksc wrote: I'm also prettty suspicious of Lanaia. She says she never claimed blue, but when she blatantly anti-voted day 1 and her name appeared next to it, it's the same outcome. I'm really surprised she hasn't died yet. I never OUTRIGHT claimed it. That was what I meant. | ||
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On November 25 2011 01:30 xsksc wrote: I re-read your post about the claim and I must have misunderstood it earlier. My bad, sorry. I'm still curious that you're alive, have you been notified of any hits? I have not been notified of any hits. On November 25 2011 01:39 Forumite wrote: If we assume the role works like Lanaia says (adds a negative vote, but can´t do anything once someone is hammered), the anti-voter role is usefull in the hands of a good Town player, weak in the hands of a weak Town player, and very powerfull in the hands of Scum. I don´t know if Lanaia is alive because she´s Scum or because they don´t fear her role, but I don´t think it´s surprising to see her alive still. Lanaia, does your role do anything else except give you the option to negate another players vote on a target? Do you have any other powers? I do have other powers. Right now, unless I need to, I'd prefer not to disclose them. The | ||
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*They probably haven't killed me because I'm a goddamn idiot. | ||
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##vote: Coagulation Oh, I didn't see Zentor's post there. I'll be back in a couple of hours. Really sorry that today is so busy for me. | ||
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On November 25 2011 11:57 Sabin010 wrote: Does anybody want to do an analysis on wherebugsgo? You could. Okay... I think I'm going to vote Zentor as he is pinging my scumdar (though we know how that could be inaccurate). I've reread the little there is of him and I've read what other people think of him and I think they may be right. ##Vote: MrZentor | ||
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IE we want to know absolutely everything about my role? I'm the Town Elder. I have two extra votes and two anti-votes (all of which are done in private). This means I can vote for the same person three times if I so choose. I can also stack the antivotes. I cannot use the antivotes on myself. You've all seen what I've done. D1 I antivoted Kenpachi. There's an hour delay before they show up or are removed. | ||
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I'd prefer not, but if enough want me to, I'm willing (given the lack of people around). | ||
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I'd like to have more than one person say they want me to e-vote. I'll vote sabin right now, though. ##Vote: Sabin010 | ||
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I'm going to unvote sabin and coag because I don't want any more accidental lynches, I suppose. ##Unvote: Sabin101 ##Unvote: Coagulation | ||
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Are you kidding me? Maybe I shouldn't've unvoted Coag. Maybe I should have just forced his lynch. Everyone who is still alive and hasn't claimed needs to hurry the heck up and claim. | ||
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On November 26 2011 15:38 wherebugsgo wrote: Lanaia you're dying tomorrow, just fyi. Why am I dying tomorrow? I really wish you didn't say that til the end of night, just in case. | ||
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On November 26 2011 16:51 wherebugsgo wrote: scum would never shoot you. You're one of 5 nonconfirmed players who didn't vote Coag. You're about as scummy as they get. I had voted but I voted because he was being modkilled. | ||
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On November 26 2011 21:25 xsksc wrote: Good morning. Zona confirmed for me that if I protect 3 targets and 2 are hit, my protection on all of them fails. Palmar and bugs, do you guys have any input on how I should use this tonight? My plan thus far has been protect the fuck out of Palmar, but it's getting a bit more complicated now. Do you have to use all three protections? Personally, I'd just protect Palmar once and no one else. How many kills do we expect the mafia has? | ||
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On November 27 2011 03:00 xsksc wrote: Yes, I must protect X or none, where X is the number we lynched. So I have to use all 3. Hm... Can you protect the same target more than once? I can't remember if you've said that or not. I would hate having the decision you do. | ||
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Also, DCLXVI should have claimed a lot earlier. Not lynching Palmar or Zephirdd. Willing to lynch DCLXVI and not sure who else today. On November 27 2011 11:35 Zephirdd wrote: + Show Spoiler [Claimed Roles] + Players Alive: Cyber_Cheese - Town Obsessive Stalker(Tracker) DCLXVI - Miller Doctor GreYMisT - Vanilla Lanaia - Town Elder(Double Voter/Double Anti-Voter) Lemonwalrus - Town Rolecop(gets roles, not alignment) Palmar - Town Records Cop(can only check people he voted on) Sabin010 - unclaimed Tyrran - Vanilla Zephirdd - Town Restraining Doctor(protect+roleblock) bumatlarge - unclaimed The Dead: Kenpachi, the Town Newbie Watchful Doc, lynched Day 1 sinani206, the Town Roleblocker, lynched Day 1 LSB, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 1 prplhz, the Town Corpse Jack, lynched Day 2 HarbingerOfDoom, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2 risk.nuke, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2 Drazerk, the Town Frail Mason, killed Night 2 Nisani201, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3 Forumite, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3 MrZentor, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3 Kibibit, the Town Tracker, modkilled Day 3 Coagulation, the Mafia Magician, modkilled Day 3 wherebugsgo, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 3 RebirthOfLeGenD, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 3 hyshes, the Town Frail Mason, killed Night 3 xsksc, the Town Frantic Doc, killed Night 3 Hmmm hyshes was unexpected. Why would Drazerk and hyshes die on different nights? Do we have any vigilantes at all? >_> Also, how many fucking KP do they have? Four on the same night? Day 1 we had two shots(one killed LSB, one went to Palmar). Day 2 we had three shots Day 3 we had four kills. Is it Day number +1? this is retarded to me. Oh yeah, ##Vote Cyber_Cheese ##Vote DCLXVI I really don't disagree with Zephirdd here. If that is how it works, I am freaking terrified. WE HAVE TO LYNCH MAFIA TODAY AND NOT LYNCH TOWN. | ||
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Do the frail masons die if they're touched, or am I mistaken? Also... On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote: Players are advised to avoid assumptions as how the various roles have been distributed among town and mafia. Furthermore, there may be dangers in store for town players who claim their role. What do we think Zona meant by this? Is this why we've been seeing more and more nightkills? | ||
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On November 28 2011 03:34 Zephirdd wrote: Because there were "hazards in store for mass lynching" I'm pretty sure cheese and DCL are scum, so with that we will have 5 town vs 2 scum by the next night. I'll make sure Palmar or Lemon survives tomorrow night(whoever is more comfortable with getting a roleblock; I could very well protect someone else but they are my best town reads atm) and we can hope that scum don't kill us this night. I don't want to lose because of these hazards, whichever they are. The day we lynched the most(3 players), we had the most losses(4 kills), but the day we lynched two we had only two shots; call that lab mouse logic if you want, but I'd rather calm down and go the route that provided to be the safest so far. I forgot about those hazards. But, Zephirdd, the day we lynched one person, there were three kills. Is there anything we need me to do today? | ||
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On November 28 2011 06:05 GreYMisT wrote: Im ok with the two lynches we have today, but I am also convinced with sabin being scum at this point. I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this. I don't disagree with Sabin being scum. | ||
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On November 28 2011 06:27 GreYMisT wrote: But do you disagree with lynching him today? I'm afraid of lynching more than the two people we've done today. I'm fairly certain those two are scum. | ||
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The lack of activity in this game is astounding. | ||
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Do we have any idea who the remaining scum are, though? GreYMisT Lanaia Lemonwalrus Palmar Tyrran Zephirdd bumatlarge This is who we have left. POE tells me Lemon/GreY/Tyrran has scum. But ugh. It looks more likely bum is GF, but he feels town to me. asdlfjdlkfgjdlkfjgsdlfkgjsdlkfgjsdlkf However, I'm the only person who didn't vote scum. This means I am a goddamn idiot. Cyber_Cheese (6): Palmar, GreYMisT, Zephirdd, bumatlarge, Lemonwalrus, Tyrran Zephirdd, may I ask who you targetted last night? I understand if you prefer not to disclose. | ||
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On November 29 2011 22:03 Zephirdd wrote: I actually protected you. I thought that it would be a good idea since you don't have night actions yet you have a powerful role. You not voting scum won't make you scum IMO; You have the counter-part for Coagulation's role, it's very unlikely that you are scum. (Also, wtf how does a Miller knows that he is a Miller?! -_-) Also, tomorrow we enter LYLO. I hope we don't die. I'm inclined to think that bumatlarge and Tyrran/Greymist are the mafia at this point. They are the three "vanillas"(bum never claimed). Perfect. I confirm the blocked aspect of Zeph's action. This is why I believe he's town. | ||
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On November 30 2011 10:48 bumatlarge wrote: Come on broski, what have I done that is scummy? Analyze me like a man you can preserve your dignity. Countless people this game have said "Gee bum seems scummy but i dont know why". Am I not allowed to be thought of as a normal player? I have to be some crapshoot lynch you do just because I'm alive? You need to think more. I'll lay down the facts for you. Lanaia needs to tell us exactly how many votes/anti-votes she has. 2v5 means it is going to be extremely strong even if she only has one of something left. I refuse to believe she is scum at this point and didn't straight out save her ability for the final days to instantly win in a situation tomorrow. I think she is likely to be killed over palmar tomorrow. Lemonwalrus is scum, I don't know why but he feels scum. Oh that isn;t a good reason? SOUND FAMILIAR? I told you guys when I claimed. Two of each. They don't go away. I have them for the duration of the game. I thought that was clear. | ||
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ugh. I knew grey was scum going into night. I thought lemon was scum but... ugh. | ||
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