EPTForumite, that's some of the worst logic I have ever seen.
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Forumite, that's some of the worst logic I have ever seen. | ||
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My bad. He's dead then. Nothing of value has been lost. | ||
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I actually don't care, I want him dead either way, for terrible. I will read sabin010 later, I'm off to enjoy an evening of turkey and football. | ||
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Seriously, fuck off you moron. Go die, I hate you. If you're town you don't even fucking try. What a useless sack of shit. | ||
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##Vote MrZentor | ||
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Are you surprised? Read your fucking filter, it's like compilation of TL Mafia's worst posts ever. And now that you somehow keep pointing your finger at me, means you're probably town, because it'd be retarded for mafia to clear me that way. Seriously, I think it'd be better if I just stop playing games where you're playing. You're an idiot, and an asshole about being an idiot. | ||
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Forumite Kenpachi Palmar Drazerk Wherebugsgo prplhz RebirthOfLeGenD DCLXVI Maybe 1, 2 at most scum in there, but potentially none. How do you feel about that? | ||
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Thank god you'll be dead tomorrow, maybe we can salvage this shit. | ||
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##Vote Lanaia At this point I'm just voting people who have done inexcusably stupid stuff. | ||
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Did I somehow convince myself that checking my townread on day one as tracker was a good idea, which would potentially tell me nothing? Like just imagine if Tyrran happened to be a cop, and investigated LSB or me night one, and then mafia hits us too... You would have had basically a guilty check on someone who is likely town? Don't you think that's a bit retarded? Are you really that dumb? Or are you just scum. | ||
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On November 25 2011 07:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Your scenario works with any person in the game. Which makes checking your town read incredibly dumb. You never, never, never, never, never, never check your town reads. | ||
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##Vote Palmar I have no interest in playing with people who don't want to try. I am sorry for signing up for this game. | ||
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On November 15 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote: Kenpachi claimed Townie, but LSB doesn´t want us to take the Kenpachi claim seriously. My problem here is that either Kenpachi lied, or he just told Scum not to nightkill him, because it would be no use. If we are going to go by the LAL policy, then either Kenpachi lied or acted Pro-Scum, so why should we back off? Kenpachi does this every game, then we can ignore his claim, but what I don´t agree with is LSB promoting LAL wanting to ignore the claim, even if it is meta This is terrible. You were told Kenpachi does it every time, you acknowledge that would lead us to ignoring it, and yet you attack LSB for reaching the logical conclusion of ignoring the claim? Don't ever make a call like that again. On November 17 2011 09:13 Forumite wrote: The Chaoser bandwagon is forming up too quickly. I don´t like it. Sure he´s making a mess about everything, but a mess that generates a lot of reads,. I´m expecting/demanding much from Chaoser tomorrow if he survives, but I´m not going to help kill him today. This is bad logic. You cannot just assume that since something is happening quickly it must be bad. You have to look at HOW it's forming. I laid out pretty solid reasons as for why I was sure chaoser was lying about his vanilla townie claim. Even now, Zentor is being really vague and useless about the claim. This wagon was forming for good reasons. I want to mention that you later supported a much dumber and yet equally fast wagon on sinani206. Clearly it's not a universal rule that fast wagons are bad in forumite-world. On November 18 2011 12:00 Forumite wrote: WBG, I´d take a look at players who were on only one of the lynches, players who posted that both were scummy, but only voted on one of them, players who had allready gotten one Townie killed and didn´t want to attract too much attention by voting on two. Players who hang back and blame others for the mislynches. Those who voted for both victims look bad, but I think they look like bad Townies. That´s my opinion at least, that Scum are the ones avoiding the second lynch. If they dared to lynch sinani, then it wouldn´t have taken so long to get those final votes. This is bad logic, the number of bandwagons people join has nothing to do with their alignment. It's only how they join the bandwagons that's actually relevant. It doesn't matter if it's one or two wagons, it's the reasons given. Calling out people who oppose lynches and blame stupid townies for them is even more dumb. I do that all the time as town, because unlike most people I actually read the thread. On November 18 2011 20:16 Forumite wrote: Yeah, I know I´ve done a few things that make me look bad in this game. I guess that means I´m improving my game a bit, if I can identify my own mistakes. I knew sinani would most likely flip Town, but I still thought it was worth it then and now. Never vote on your townreads forumite, Never do it. If we weren't dealing with the problem of everyone being retarded in this town, you should be autolynched for that comment alone. Voting for your townreads is retarded. It's interesting your entire case against prplhz on day 2 was about him being too late with the defense, when what you did here was 10x worse. On November 20 2011 00:14 Forumite wrote: That together with taunting the player he says he wanted to save but didn´t, it all scream scum to me. If he really wanted to save sinani then he would have tried, then seen the final hammer as a failure, not a victory worth taunting sinani for. The game doesn't work that way. It's not a scumtell unless done in a very specific way to be angry at townies who get themselves lynched. You do this all through your play, you try to apply scumtells, when that's not how you should be using them. It's not what people are saying that matters, it's how they're saying it. On November 20 2011 09:00 Forumite wrote: This is the kind of play I would expect from scum, and I think you would have used this argument sooner if I hadn´t called you out during the night. If Town mislynch on their own, then Scum makes the most of it, both by getting Towncred by staying away from the lynch, and also throw Town into confusion by pushing whoever was on the lynch. Once again, not a scumtell unless done in a terribly scummy way. I did agree in my big analysis on prplhz that it was bad, but it's not enough to hang him. Staying away from town lynches is what two groups of people do. Townies who use their head and scum. If this logic got applied to me I'd be day 2 lynched every game, because I oppose stupid lynches all the time. On November 21 2011 23:11 Forumite wrote: That´s not transparency, that´s you trying to trick people into thinking the wagon on prplhz just stopped. If you want transparency, post that you think prplhz is Town with big green letters. That's just straight up dumb. I hope you read this again now, and realize you're terrible. On November 22 2011 07:56 Forumite wrote: Did you get any information on how medics work, if they and/or the one they protect is informed if a nightkill was attempted and prevented? It's in the OP, dumbass. On November 25 2011 08:12 Forumite wrote: Why doesn´t it make sense? If Nisani was Scum, wouldn´t Scum have killed Palmar or WBG, or someone else actually out to lynch palmar, in order to get some pressure off of him? Shooting those NOT pushing Nisani means that Nisani dies, it´s simple and direct, and if Nisani is Town then it´s also Pro-Scum to do this, because 5/6 of the day was spent dealing with Nisani. We always lynch our first 12 hours before deadline, then rush secondary lynches, so one obvious target for the day means Town basically waste the day. Speculating about mafia kills is stupid don't do it again. What's interesting is that Forumite has done at least one thing that should warrant an autolynch and he keeps pushing bad lynches. I'm not actually interested enough in the game to read up on Zephirdd, but I didn't have a scum read on him. Does this mean Forumite is scum? or just terrible? It's impossible to make the distinction, which is why I always support policy lynching people for doing dumb shit. Thankfully, I won't have to deal with it. It's your problem now. | ||
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On November 25 2011 19:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Following you blindly would be much closer to not trying. Actually kinda true this game. Following me blindly would be stupid because I tend to think people who do anti-town moves, are probably anti-town, but that means all the following people would be dead: Bumatlarge Coagulation Cyber_Cheese Forumite Sabin010 DCLXVI Kibibit Lemonwalrus xsksc RebirthOfLeGenD You see the problem? They can't all be scum, so a part of them is just playing badly. For every single person in that list I can give a pretty good analysis of why they must be either terrible, not trying, or scum. I'm not joking though, just lynch me, I've done all the good I can do for town this game. I am unable to continue due to frustration. ##Vote Forumite | ||
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Something like ##Vote Cyber_Cheese ##Vote Forumit ##Vote Sabin010 ##Vote DCLXVI ##Vote xsksc Let's leave the others for now. Can I request Coagulation be modkilled for inactivity? In addition Kibibit should be pretty close to a modkill. | ||
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I consider it terrible failure to, for example, not have been able to stop the lynch on prplhz on day 2. I used good logic to defend prplhz You used bad logic to attack prplhz And you managed to convince town over me. This means I failed. I should have used bad logic to defend him, or something. It's pretty clear that this game I have failed at catering to my audience. I know I have been spoiled in the past, playing in games with multiple people who think, but that's not the case this game. I still haven't figured out how to convince people who don't like reason and logic. There must be a trick to it because those people always end up voting something, but I can't seem to put my finger on what triggers it. | ||
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On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote: I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess. rofl, look at that. | ||
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On November 25 2011 20:21 Forumite wrote: Read his filter until I´m convinced? Really? Is "Palmar is Town" a big truth that can not be contradicted? You know he´s been doing a few weird things in the thread, this latest with giving up obviously the biggest one, and I´m not comfortable with letting it go. Palmar has acted Town, but he´s also been leading Town to absolutely nothing, we´re still no closer to finding Scum. I want to make sure that Palmar isn´t deceiving us, instead of just hope for the best and follow him blindly. Maybe the reason we're not closer to finding scum is people listening to you instead of me? | ||
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On November 25 2011 20:24 Forumite wrote: You don´t have much hope of Nisani flipping Scum, do you? Depends how you define scum. If we use the definition "A player who increases the mafia's chance of winning" then, he's 100% scum. | ||
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