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On November 27 2011 11:18 Palmar wrote: rofl, we're so fucked. Cyber_cheese is guilty, I checked him last night. We probably need to lynch two people though, so let's lynch the guy who claimed miller. ##Vote Cyber_cheese ##Vote DCLXVI What a convenient result ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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On November 27 2011 11:21 Palmar wrote: Don't even try it, the medic who protected me night 1 just flipped. I'm confirmed you asshole. This is why we should always lynch people who do stupid shit. Problem is when half of town does stupid shit. The medic's don't receive a notification for the heal, we only have your word you didn't hold one of your kp | ||
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On November 27 2011 14:11 DCLXVI wrote: wow, I cannot believe palmar is actually town given how he played. Still, the medic flip and hit claim is absurdly more likely to be from a mafia hit than a vig shot night 1 on palmar, so unless a vig claims to have done so, Palmar is town, and Cyber_cheese is lying. ##Vote Cyber_Cheeze Or unless the hit didn't happen and he planned on having a scum mate eventually claim medic if no real medic did. Also, you mis-spelt my name. I'll be posting much more about how Palmar is scum today, I suggest you guys hold off on the knee-jerk votes and hear me out, there is another 44 hours, and we can't afford to be wrong. | ||
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On November 27 2011 16:21 Zona wrote: Oh and risk.nuke is warned for posting in the thread after death. Please don't do this guys! 40 minutes later, the very next post... On November 27 2011 17:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: GL Sorry I couldn't perform up to standard. Swamped this semester :/ Back on topic: We have scum to find if we plan on salvaging today. On November 28 2011 03:34 Zephirdd wrote: Because there were "hazards in store for mass lynching" I'm pretty sure cheese and DCL are scum, so with that we will have 5 town vs 2 scum by the next night. I'll make sure Palmar or Lemon survives tomorrow night(whoever is more comfortable with getting a roleblock; I could very well protect someone else but they are my best town reads atm) and we can hope that scum don't kill us this night. I don't want to lose because of these hazards, whichever they are. The day we lynched the most(3 players), we had the most losses(4 kills), but the day we lynched two we had only two shots; call that lab mouse logic if you want, but I'd rather calm down and go the route that provided to be the safest so far. At this point, we've likely already lost the game. We need three mafia lynches to prevent them from just winning by tomorrow, and that would be 5 lynches assuming the next three are all correct. I know I promised something on Palmar, but I've been bummed out about dying, I'll come back to that. For now, Lemonwalrus: On November 27 2011 15:49 Lemonwalrus wrote: So I definitely should have checked DCL last night but in an act of stupidity I put my check on WBG as a place holder then promptly fell asleep. Good news....my results on WBG are confirmed by his flip...so at least we know my ability is calibrated correctly. :| I'm actually shocked that I survived the night. ##Vote DCLXVI ##Vote Cyber_Cheese ##Vote Sabin010 -Confirms Palmar after Palmar reveals role. -Confirms Nisani after he's flipped -Doesn't check the right person -No breadcrumbs It's a good place to start ##Vote: Lemonwalrus | ||
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On November 28 2011 05:23 Lanaia wrote: I forgot about those hazards. But, Zephirdd, the day we lynched one person, there were three kills. Is there anything we need me to do today? How you use your power is a decision you have to make for yourself. If you think the lynch is a good idea, double vote, if you think it's a bad idea, anti-vote. If you are a townie, and you follow someone else's advice on how to use your power, you risk it falling into scum hands, when you know it's already in town hands. This is why directing blues is anti-town. | ||
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He is being modkilled, fact. | ||
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Lets lynch that guy, he doesn't deserve to go down like a real warrior, battling the mods until the end. | ||
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You needed more mafia lynches today, but no-one was listening to me. | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:08 GreYMisT wrote: My role was so awesome, kept changing the KP of our team Thanks for claiming everyone, made it a lot easier. Ironically Palmar was probably most anti-town person this game. Between lynching townies, quelling discussion by telling people to follow him, labeling the people who question him as scum, and mostly making everybody mass role call. + Show Spoiler [IRC logs] + Session Start: Wed Nov 16 01:28:41 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 03[01:28] * Now talking in #mudkips 03[01:34] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips [01:34] <Zephirdd> Mud. [01:34] <Zephirdd> .Kip 01[01:41] <@Cyber_Cheese> howdy 01[01:41] <@Cyber_Cheese> playing skyrim ^^ 01[01:42] <@Cyber_Cheese> looking forward to lynching prplhz and palmar this game 01[01:43] <@Cyber_Cheese> the former derps around and looks scummy while the latter acts superior and does nothing 01[01:43] <@Cyber_Cheese> in my experience with them anyway 03[01:47] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [01:47] <GreYMisT> sup [01:47] <GreYMisT> been a while since ive been in here [01:52] <Zephirdd> hoh [01:52] <Zephirdd> wouldnt the former be beneficial? [01:54] <GreYMisT> what former? [01:54] <Zephirdd> prplhz [01:54] <Zephirdd> oh yeah you didnt see it [01:54] <Zephirdd> Cyber_Cheese looking forward to lynching prplhz and palmar this game [01:54] <Zephirdd> Cyber_Cheese the former derps around and looks scummy while the latter acts superior and does nothing [01:54] <Zephirdd> Cyber_Cheese in my experience with them anyway [01:55] <GreYMisT> its benifitial to have him around to cause chaos yea, but he also acts as an easy out for us [01:56] <GreYMisT> we can focus attention on him easy with little obvious effort [01:56] <GreYMisT> the first game I ever played i was scum, just like you haha [01:57] <Zephirdd> ^_^ [01:57] <GreYMisT> do you have any questions? [01:57] <GreYMisT> on like how to play it or anything? [01:58] <Zephirdd> one thing [01:58] <Zephirdd> FoS [01:58] <Zephirdd> what is that [01:58] <Zephirdd> .-. [01:59] <GreYMisT> finger of suspicions [01:59] <GreYMisT> suspicion* [01:59] <GreYMisT> indicates that you are suspicious of someone, but not enough to vote [01:59] <GreYMisT> basicaly saying you are going to watch this guy because he looks shady [01:59] <Zephirdd> Oh [02:00] <Zephirdd> for some reason I thought it was 'full of shit' [02:00] <GreYMisT> haha [02:00] <GreYMisT> kinda yea [02:01] <GreYMisT> So basically some pointers to not getting killed this game [02:01] <GreYMisT> avoid making posts that are too neutral/dont say shit [02:01] <GreYMisT> thats what people look for when scum hunting 01[02:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> prp is good at people out amisdt all his scummy crap [02:02] <GreYMisT> the best thing you can do to appear town is to have an opinion and stick to it 01[02:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> at outing people* [02:02] <Zephirdd> figured that 01[02:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> and hes active 01[02:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> so killing him is still a good thing [02:02] <Zephirdd> ohh I see [02:02] <GreYMisT> The good news is sinani is playing [02:02] <Zephirdd> lol [02:02] <Zephirdd> whats with him? [02:02] <GreYMisT> so thats a free lynch for us right there [02:03] <Zephirdd> lol [02:03] <GreYMisT> every game he plays as town he never tries and always appears as scummy as hell [02:03] <Zephirdd> haha 01[02:03] <@Cyber_Cheese> oh man sinani makes a sup post when required to to not get modkilled [02:03] <Zephirdd> poor guy  01[02:03] <@Cyber_Cheese> thats about the extent of his playing [02:03] <GreYMisT> yea pretty much, haha [02:03] <GreYMisT> makes me happy [02:03] <Zephirdd> lol [02:04] <GreYMisT> still havnt heard from coag 01[02:04] <@Cyber_Cheese> ulfric stormcloak just finished his conquest of skyrim thanks to me, brb speech [02:04] <GreYMisT> someone get sabini in here [02:05] <GreYMisT> or sabin* sry [02:05] <Zephirdd> huh 01[02:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> just post about the irc in the qt, he'll catch on  [02:05] <GreYMisT> i just PMed him [02:06] <GreYMisT> easiest way 01[02:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> or that [02:07] <GreYMisT> in any case, we have a tracker, a multi role sniper, a framer/medic/roleblocker [02:07] <GreYMisT> pretty interesting lineup [02:07] <GreYMisT> well a gimped framer actualy 03[02:08] * TriforceGuy (webchat@69.24.39.91) has joined #mudkips [02:08] <Zephirdd> the PM said "I gave you lots of tools. Don't lose" [02:08] <Zephirdd> HALT [02:08] <TriforceGuy> sabin010 here [02:08] <Zephirdd> k [02:08] <Zephirdd> 01[02:08] <@Cyber_Cheese> sup [02:08] <TriforceGuy> we should all use fake names [02:08] <TriforceGuy> to protect the guilty [02:09] <GreYMisT> haha [02:09] <TriforceGuy> unless you're in other rooms [02:09] <Zephirdd> the only other chat I join at quakenet is #tlponies 03[02:09] * GreYMisT is now known as notgreymist 01[02:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> only mafia are allowed to talk outside of the game about the game [02:09] <Zephirdd> and Masons 01[02:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> if some rand enters we just leave [02:09] <TriforceGuy> yeah fucking masons 01[02:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> oh well yeah fucking masons [02:09] <TriforceGuy> worst role in the game [02:09] <Zephirdd> lol [02:10] <Zephirdd> is it possible that mafia is also mason? 01[02:10] <@Cyber_Cheese> saved prp from the lynch in lotr [02:10] <TriforceGuy> no [02:10] <TriforceGuy> masons are town 01[02:10] <@Cyber_Cheese> mafia are all masons by default [02:10] <notgreymist> anyway sabini i dont think you told us how much exp you have with mafia 01[02:10] <@Cyber_Cheese> *thats how we communicate outside of the game* [02:10] <Zephirdd> what I mean [02:10] <TriforceGuy> played it in the sc2 custom game a lot [02:10] <Zephirdd> a mafia that can communicate with townies [02:11] <TriforceGuy> you guys take it to the next level though [02:11] <notgreymist> ah ok [02:11] <notgreymist> this is a lot different [02:11] <notgreymist> haha [02:11] <TriforceGuy> fucking 3 days [02:11] <notgreymist> its usally 48 [02:11] <Zephirdd> lol xD [02:11] <notgreymist> hours [02:11] <notgreymist> 3 days is longer than normal for us as well, but not by much 01[02:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> ah the sc2 custom 01[02:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> man i came from that 01[02:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> it was a harsh adjustment [02:11] <notgreymist> anyway, dont sweat it that you are reciving some pressure. everyone will [02:12] <TriforceGuy> nah im not worried [02:12] <Zephirdd> yeah bro, no pressure but if you die we are fucked up [02:12] <notgreymist> its just important not to flip your shit as you do [02:12] <Zephirdd> 01[02:12] <@Cyber_Cheese> in the sc2 custom its all about knowing the roles and guessing [02:12] <notgreymist> cyber we are going to need to focus on blue hunting this game a lot [02:13] <notgreymist> especially with my role 01[02:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah 01[02:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> im going to spend the first two days scum hunting [02:13] <notgreymist> i think that most people in the game are blue, or a higher degree than normal 01[02:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> make some good initial impressions 01[02:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> then ill spend 3/4 looking for breadcrumbs of roles if i can [02:14] <TriforceGuy> what is everybodies role [02:14] <notgreymist> Im going to breadcrumb role sniper in a bit, so i can fakeclaim it later on [02:14] <TriforceGuy> i got no special powers [02:14] <Zephirdd> I'm blackjack 01[02:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> im tracker, so it wont be hard to claim town later [02:15] <notgreymist> zephirdd if you feel comfortable with it, you should breadcrumb JOAT [02:15] <notgreymist> or medic [02:15] <Zephirdd> I can protect, whitewash(target is town vanilla), roleblock [02:15] <Zephirdd> wat is breadcumb JOAT or what [02:15] <Zephirdd> what [02:15] <notgreymist> jack of all trades is a role that might be in the game 01[02:15] <@Cyber_Cheese> breadcrumb is hinting at your role, but only barely [02:15] <notgreymist> breadcrumb is where you leave clues in your post of your role [02:15] <notgreymist> so you can claim it later or [02:15] <notgreymist> on* [02:15] <Zephirdd> oh [02:16] <Zephirdd> hmm 01[02:16] <@Cyber_Cheese> then you point to the breadcrumbs later [02:16] <notgreymist> like making the first letter in each sentence spell that work [02:16] <notgreymist> you would claim medic though, it fits better [02:16] <Zephirdd> interesting [02:17] <notgreymist> anyway i have to go to lab. final thoughts for now, we are off to a good start, just keep focusing on looking town, dont post neutral posts, and be assertive [02:17] <notgreymist> cyber can help with the rest. [02:17] <Zephirdd> it is kinda weird, the mafia game I played only had a blue(cop), a red and a green 01[02:17] <@Cyber_Cheese> im going to randomly include track in my posts where i can :D [02:17] <Zephirdd> and them greens* 01[02:17] <@Cyber_Cheese> hmm ive been green in my first, followed by 3x mafia 01[02:17] <@Cyber_Cheese> oh wait we arent talking about history 01[02:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> so this game 01[02:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> who won? [02:18] <Zephirdd> this game was a DN-based game [02:18] <Zephirdd> we had a lot of games actually [02:18] <Zephirdd> I won twice as red [02:18] <Zephirdd> (Kira) 01[02:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> yagami light is such a boss [02:19] <Zephirdd> it was fun because we could chose how the victims died [02:19] <Zephirdd> and the cop couldn't be killed either 01[02:19] <@Cyber_Cheese> how many players? 01[02:19] <@Cyber_Cheese> that sounds pretty boss [02:19] <Zephirdd> dunno, 15 maybe [02:19] <Zephirdd> 15 was the max we had I guess [02:19] <Zephirdd> it wasnt nearly as organized 01[02:19] <@Cyber_Cheese> sounds like the red didnt win much 01[02:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> 14v1 lol [02:20] <Zephirdd> yeah it was hard, but the rule was something like "5 or less, Kira wins" [02:20] <Zephirdd> there was a point where we included secondary red roles, such as a replacement for Kira [02:21] <Zephirdd> and some greenies had fun in losing as well [02:21] <Zephirdd> 01[02:21] <@Cyber_Cheese> sounds pretty epic 02[02:23] * notgreymist (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) 01[02:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> skyrim is so bawsssss [02:27] <Zephirdd> haha [02:27] <Zephirdd> I'm really not into long RPGs like these 01[02:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> fair enough 01[02:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> opinion: bw or sc2? [02:29] <TriforceGuy> My friend beat that that on sunday [02:29] <TriforceGuy> I play LoL [02:29] <Zephirdd> sc2, just because I never got to actually play bw as a kid [02:29] <TriforceGuy> bring on the flames 01[02:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> skyrim can be beaten? [02:29] <TriforceGuy> Thats what he told me [02:29] <Zephirdd> and now its too hard for me [02:29] <Zephirdd> also, dota>lol [02:29] <Zephirdd> [02:30] <TriforceGuy> I quit playing sc2 to play lol [02:30] <TriforceGuy> so much fun to scream on team speak at your friends for being retarded 01[02:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> i prefer bw because my friends that didnt even play rts games could beat me in sc2 01[02:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> admittedly im not good but yeah [02:30] <TriforceGuy> I played a ton of wc3 01[02:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> oh man [02:30] <TriforceGuy> so i focus on micro too much [02:30] <Zephirdd> I hate the idea that playing more gives you an edge over people that may be better even if they play less hours per day(as in runes and skills for lol) 01[02:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> theres so many good w3 customs [02:31] <TriforceGuy> once you get 1000 games [02:31] <TriforceGuy> you pretty much only play against guys who have everything too [02:31] <TriforceGuy> i just played melee [02:31] <TriforceGuy> only played dota one time 01[02:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> i played a minor amount of melee [02:31] <TriforceGuy> and was like fuck this im playing melee [02:32] <Zephirdd> I've had way over 1k games in dota, I don't want to repeat that in lol 01[02:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> games like are you a lucker and the black road 01[02:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> im more of a hon guy 01[02:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> i find it more true to dota [02:32] <TriforceGuy> never played hon [02:32] <TriforceGuy> so i have nothing to compare it to [02:32] <Zephirdd> hon is more similar to dota yes 01[02:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> wait for dota 2 if your considering trying hon [02:33] <TriforceGuy> but i play a lot of lol [02:33] <Zephirdd> dota2 is awesome btw [02:33] <Zephirdd> (I have beta) 01[02:33] <@Cyber_Cheese> otherwise lols where its at 01[02:33] <@Cyber_Cheese> what really? 01[02:33] <@Cyber_Cheese> so jelly [02:33] <TriforceGuy> and im not going to switch to dota2 [02:33] <Zephirdd> [02:33] <TriforceGuy> I got like 90% of the champs unlocked and most of the runes you need 01[02:33] <@Cyber_Cheese> try it out if dota 2 is free [02:34] <TriforceGuy> well they jsut pretty much turned lol into lol two this last patch [02:34] <Zephirdd> õ_o [02:34] <TriforceGuy> changed the mastery system entirely 01[02:34] <@Cyber_Cheese> the main reasons i dont play lol because of playing to pay for heroes, and the no denies thing 01[02:34] <@Cyber_Cheese> mastery? [02:35] <TriforceGuy> the poinst you spend before the game to change your powers 01[02:40] <@Cyber_Cheese> oh right 01[02:41] <@Cyber_Cheese> so what did they change it too 01[02:41] <@Cyber_Cheese> i didnt really like the masteries either 01[02:41] <@Cyber_Cheese> starting with exhaust and something was meh [02:53] <Zephirdd> so [02:53] <Zephirdd> what can you take out of chaos' latest post? [02:53] <Zephirdd> I mean, even if I were town I'd actually agree with Forumite .-. 01[02:54] <@Cyber_Cheese> gimme a sec 01[02:54] <@Cyber_Cheese> looking through 01[02:55] <@Cyber_Cheese> wow forumite posted a lot pre game 01[02:55] <@Cyber_Cheese> filters at page 2 before it even started [02:56] <Zephirdd> yeah [02:56] <Zephirdd> xD 01[02:56] <@Cyber_Cheese> the vt claim is a hard one to prove is a lie [02:56] <Zephirdd> his game posts are on page 2 01[02:57] <@Cyber_Cheese> but ill let LSB clear himself on that I think 01[02:57] <@Cyber_Cheese> as for chaoser voting forumite for trying to press lsb on that [02:57] <Zephirdd> I was thinking of starting something on chaoser [02:57] <Zephirdd> but I'll wait a bit on it [02:58] <Zephirdd> people are so agressive on this game first day lol 01[02:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> make your position on day 1 01[02:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> then later on try to stick more or less to that 01[02:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> day 1 sets the tone for the game very well [02:58] <TriforceGuy> so wait I should pick my blue role day one [02:58] <TriforceGuy> and then reveal much much later [02:59] <Zephirdd> wait wat 01[02:59] <@Cyber_Cheese> basically yes [02:59] <Zephirdd> oh yeah you're teh sniper [02:59] <Zephirdd> or... [02:59] <Zephirdd> no, grey is the sniper isnt? 01[02:59] <@Cyber_Cheese> decide how your going to cover yourself right now [02:59] <Zephirdd> great I just confused myself [02:59] <TriforceGuy> im just goon 01[02:59] <@Cyber_Cheese> townies wont wait to start breadcrumbing if they have a blue role 01[03:00] <@Cyber_Cheese> you can choose not to use it later if it doesnt fit, vanilla townie (vt) is always a good claim [03:00] <TriforceGuy> well all my posts are for trying to keep the game going with out a day 1 lynch [03:00] <TriforceGuy> so which roles can I still fit 01[03:00] <@Cyber_Cheese> dont push a no lynch, it looks too neutral [03:00] <Zephirdd> well 01[03:00] <@Cyber_Cheese> no matter what your role is, the towns aim is to scum hunt [03:01] <Zephirdd> I"ma go over chaoser right now [03:01] <Zephirdd> because chaos [03:02] <Zephirdd> also [03:02] <Zephirdd> HarbingerOfDoom is blue [03:02] <Zephirdd> I'm sure of it 01[03:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> chaos tried to weaken peoples stances on LaL [03:02] <Zephirdd> We never get the information that abilities would actually be combined for our roles, and he assumes they were combined. 01[03:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=17#323 [03:04] <Zephirdd> thinking about it, I don't really have a good argument for going against chaoser 01[03:04] <@Cyber_Cheese> show us what you got 01[03:04] <@Cyber_Cheese> inputting some suspicion on anybody can be a good thing 01[03:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> save the blue hunting for later imo, thats not to say dont ignore it, but note it down and try to make a good first impression 01[03:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> with 'scum'hunting [03:06] <Zephirdd> just pointing it out for us [03:06] <Zephirdd> could be a nice first day target imo 01[03:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> its really hard to plan 01[03:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> it seems like the simplest thing in the world 01[03:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> but so much changes in 24 hours every game lol [03:07] <Zephirdd> i c 01[03:08] <@Cyber_Cheese> if you want to make a case on chaoser, ill help [03:09] <Zephirdd> I'm more of looking for something to begin on 01[03:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> easy 01[03:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> the post i linked above [03:09] <Zephirdd> maybe I could jump on Forumite bandwagon, but that'd be silly 01[03:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> wait what stance did you take on LaL so far? [03:10] <Zephirdd> hmm [03:10] <Zephirdd> hang on [03:10] <Zephirdd> did I talk about LAL at all...? [03:10] <Zephirdd> oh yeah [03:10] <Zephirdd> damn Kibibit posted my thoughts before me [03:10] <Zephirdd> so it looks like I'm just agreeing with him 03[03:10] * Retrieving #mudkips modes... 01[03:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah you mentioned it [03:11] <Zephirdd> I agree with LAL, but we should be conservative over it; not jump into conclusions 01[03:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[03:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> youll have to FoS chaoser for wanting to create an environment where townies are allowed to lie 01[03:12] <@Cyber_Cheese> that post i linked to is perfect, pull suspicion on his idea of a win-win [03:12] <Zephirdd> very well 01[03:12] <@Cyber_Cheese> call his vote more bs than forumites linking itself 01[03:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> and call him generally unhelpful 01[03:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> more eloquently than i put it of course 01[03:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> dont actually vote on him here, use a FoS, it's more in line with your policy on LaL 01[03:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> calling his scenario a win-win in itself could be deemed a lie for greater effect [03:14] <Zephirdd> what is DT? 01[03:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> detection 01[03:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> any sort of cop type role [03:14] <Zephirdd> k [03:14] <Zephirdd> basically, I have an anti-DT [03:14] <Zephirdd> right? 01[03:15] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah pretty much 01[03:15] <@Cyber_Cheese> your more of an anti blue [03:15] <Zephirdd> kool ^_^ 01[03:16] <@Cyber_Cheese> for cover, use some sort of vigilante breadcrumbs imo [03:16] <Zephirdd> do we have vigilantes in this game? 01[03:16] <@Cyber_Cheese> no idea if the game actually has them, but theres a good chance at least one townie is [03:17] <Zephirdd> yep [03:17] <Zephirdd> there is a vigilante role [03:19] <Zephirdd> wait [03:19] <Zephirdd> is there any influence on the game [03:19] <Zephirdd> if I say 'FoS nick'? [03:19] <Zephirdd> or is it just to intimidate? 01[03:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> no influenece [03:20] <Zephirdd> k 01[03:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> its just an intimidation [03:20] <Zephirdd> "Then you go on trying to create a bandwagon over Forumite with nearly no arguments. Forumite at least have a point." [03:20] <Zephirdd> eloquent enough? [03:20] <Zephirdd> xD 01[03:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> makes you look like your serious, so dont throw it around unless your making a good point 01[03:21] <@Cyber_Cheese> show me it in context, post it in the quicktopic :D [03:21] <Zephirdd> hang on [03:21] <Zephirdd> posted 01[03:22] <@Cyber_Cheese> I havnt actually been around tl mafia that long, like 5 games or something 01[03:22] <@Cyber_Cheese> dont take me as the be all and end all [03:22] <Zephirdd> xD [03:22] <Zephirdd> its okey 01[03:23] <@Cyber_Cheese> be more agressive [03:23] <Zephirdd> hm [03:23] <Zephirdd> k 01[03:23] <@Cyber_Cheese> you're telling me that losing your spare life AND wasting a vigilante shot is a win? 01[03:23] <@Cyber_Cheese> drop the bold stuff [03:24] <Zephirdd> "You say that lies can provide a win-win situation, but how is it a win situation when that lie could have killed a townie, yourself AND wasted a vigilante shot?" 01[03:24] <@Cyber_Cheese> be the badass, make him cower in fear at your prowess [03:24] <Zephirdd> rofl 01[03:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> honestly id open with the bad parts of his 'win', then demand he explains how its a win [03:26] <Zephirdd> holy shit [03:26] <Zephirdd> wall of text posted 01[03:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> its called scum hunting 01[03:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> no questioning 01[03:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> not* [03:27] <Zephirdd> "Zephirrd confirmed early then came back later and actually posted stuff." [03:27] <Zephirdd> awwww yeah 01[03:27] <@Cyber_Cheese> *hi5* 01[03:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> we're going to make you boss this up :D [03:28] <Zephirdd> lol\ 01[03:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> chaoser made another vote with little to no explaination 01[03:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> perfect 01[03:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> add a section with how worthless his votes are, and how he hasnt contributed jackshit 01[03:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> his (unexplained) 01[03:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> votes [03:29] <Zephirdd> I see [03:29] <Zephirdd> Mafia is actually a game about being aggressive [03:30] <Zephirdd> well, that's going to be a problem, but I think I can handle it 01[03:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> there are some tradeoffs 01[03:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> the best people are usually dead early 01[03:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> by mafia hands 01[03:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> but the best people draw medic protection too [03:30] <Zephirdd> I c 01[03:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> and in the meantime, spare townies sheep around them [03:32] <Zephirdd> wait [03:32] <Zephirdd> refresh again [03:32] <Zephirdd> he went vote over DCLXVI(is that 666?) [03:32] <Zephirdd> LOL great 01[03:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah 01[03:33] <@Cyber_Cheese> thats what i was referring to about 4 min ago 01[03:33] <@Cyber_Cheese> in roman numerals DCLXVI is 666 [03:33] <Zephirdd> h [03:33] <Zephirdd> [03:33] <Zephirdd> oh [03:33] <Zephirdd> Session Close: Wed Nov 16 03:36:21 2011 Session Start: Wed Nov 16 03:36:21 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[03:36] * Disconnected 02[03:37] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[03:37] * Rejoined channel #mudkips [03:38] <Zephirdd> Hello 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> im cheese still 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> my net dcd [03:38] <Zephirdd> derp [03:38] <Zephirdd> haha 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> so its using alternate name [03:38] <Zephirdd> check the QT 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> yes sir 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> was using this name to support ver @ mlg a while back :D [03:39] <Zephirdd> ^^ 02[03:39] * @Cyber_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-163-143.wa.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout) 01[03:39] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm 01[03:39] <Vertual_Cheese> drop the bold stuff line at the start [03:40] <Zephirdd> okey [03:40] <Zephirdd> whats with it tho? 01[03:40] <Vertual_Cheese> it seems too passive [03:40] <Zephirdd> Oh [03:40] <Zephirdd> damn personality [03:40] <Zephirdd> xD 01[03:40] <Vertual_Cheese> 01[03:40] <Vertual_Cheese> dont go posting too far out of character [03:40] <Zephirdd> WTF blizzard released league MMR stats? 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> if your posts suddenly change if/when i die theres trouble [03:41] <Zephirdd> its okay 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> what really? [03:41] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> linky please [03:42] <Zephirdd> huh hang on [03:42] <Zephirdd> I'll take the eng on [03:42] <Zephirdd> http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3947374/Climbing_the_Ladder_How_to_Earn_a_League_Promotion-11_15_2011 [03:43] <Zephirdd> they basically teach how to be promoted 01[03:44] <Vertual_Cheese> So your claiming that some lies told by townies can provide for a win-win scenario? 01[03:44] <Vertual_Cheese> dont feel out of place 01[03:44] <Vertual_Cheese> you belong in this game as much as people who have played before 01[03:44] <Vertual_Cheese> act like you own the position 01[03:45] <Vertual_Cheese> start with that sort of question ^^ 01[03:45] <Vertual_Cheese> thats a fairly interesting guide btw, i suppose it's harmless enough [03:46] <Zephirdd> ...I may have accidentally the post button [03:46] <Zephirdd> well, the post wasnt that bad tho 01[03:46] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah its still pretty good 01[03:47] <Vertual_Cheese> to be honest, my posts arent better [03:48] <Zephirdd> meh, timezones fuck this up tho 01[03:48] <Vertual_Cheese> where you at? [03:48] <Zephirdd> the majority of the players are EST/PST [03:48] <Zephirdd> I'm at BRDT(GMT-2) 01[03:48] <Vertual_Cheese> im west australia (+8) [03:48] <Zephirdd> so when I go to sleep, its when the topic is the most actve [03:48] <Zephirdd> woah ;O 01[03:49] <Vertual_Cheese> ive got strange sleeping hours [03:49] <Zephirdd> haha 01[03:49] <Vertual_Cheese> wait what 01[03:49] <Vertual_Cheese> how is brazil -2 when some of the us is like -8 01[03:49] <Vertual_Cheese> :O 01[03:50] <Vertual_Cheese> i must be worse at geometry than i thought [03:50] <Zephirdd> daylight saving tho [03:50] <Zephirdd> and most of brazil is east to EST 01[03:50] <Vertual_Cheese> oh wow i am terrible at geometry 01[03:50] <Vertual_Cheese> thought brazil lined up with the east us more than that 01[03:51] <Vertual_Cheese> so as a completely random question 01[03:51] <Vertual_Cheese> you a fan of soccer? 01[03:52] <Vertual_Cheese> i wish the australia soccer scene was better so badly [03:52] <Zephirdd> notgreymist: not really a fan [03:52] <Zephirdd> I like the world cups and all [03:52] <Zephirdd> but not a diehard fan 01[03:52] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah world cups of anything can be worth a watch [03:52] <Zephirdd> as some people literally die for their team 01[03:53] <Vertual_Cheese> i dont really get those people 01[03:53] <Vertual_Cheese> but its probably related to having booze at venues 01[03:53] <Vertual_Cheese> more so than the actual support itself [03:53] <Zephirdd> nah, some people are just plain sick [03:53] <Zephirdd> lol 01[03:54] <Vertual_Cheese> im not actually a huge sports fan, but if there was one i would follow itd be soccer [03:54] <Zephirdd> Like, they complain about having no money for stuff, yet they spend every single bit of money in team shirts, soccer matches etc 01[03:54] <Vertual_Cheese> wow 01[03:54] <Vertual_Cheese> thats crazy [03:54] <Zephirdd> they are retarded IMO [03:54] <Zephirdd> XD 01[03:55] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah 01[03:55] <Vertual_Cheese> favourite sc2 player? [03:55] <Zephirdd> hard to say [03:55] <Zephirdd> I'm a Liquid fan 01[03:55] <Vertual_Cheese> personally, idra, im one of those people 01[03:56] <Vertual_Cheese> not by much but if i had to choose one [03:56] <Zephirdd> I'd say its TLO, but I love idra playstyle 01[03:56] <Vertual_Cheese> TLO 01[03:56] <Vertual_Cheese> is such a boss [03:56] <Zephirdd> idra as a person? nah, idra as a player? fucking awesome 01[03:56] <Vertual_Cheese> well apparently hes a good person when he isnt bming people 01[03:57] <Vertual_Cheese> but then everyones a good person if you ignore their flaws i suppose [03:57] <Zephirdd> rofl [03:57] <Zephirdd> he's becoming better ever since huk joined eg [03:57] <Zephirdd> as a player and a person [03:58] <Zephirdd> as far as KR players go, Leenock must be my favorite [03:58] <Zephirdd> if not him, it's NaDa 01[03:58] <Vertual_Cheese> i suppose he finally got some teammates that were closer to his level 01[03:59] <Vertual_Cheese> kr players 01[03:59] <Vertual_Cheese> ensnare is mine [03:59] <Zephirdd> yay, got chaoser to go over me [03:59] <Zephirdd> great. 01[03:59] <Vertual_Cheese> its a shame he fell out of code S before ever actually owning it up properly [03:59] <Zephirdd> indeed 01[03:59] <Vertual_Cheese> i loved his consistency [03:59] <Zephirdd> ensnare is insanely good 01[04:02] <Vertual_Cheese> honestly your not really in trouble here 01[04:02] <Vertual_Cheese> dont back up on points 01[04:02] <Vertual_Cheese> just ignore them if you dont have some way to spin it as a good point, unless voting you catches on and your actually in danger 01[04:03] <Vertual_Cheese> in which case you might have to as defence [04:03] <Zephirdd> ok [04:04] <Zephirdd> I even considered answering him back [04:04] <Zephirdd> but I dont think its the right time [04:04] <Zephirdd> I'd rather see what other people have to say about it [04:04] <Zephirdd> also [04:04] <Zephirdd> someone mentioned that voting could have an influence in certain roles 01[04:05] <Vertual_Cheese> if you want to, reply to it now with a one liner, 'fine have it your way' and vote him 01[04:05] <Vertual_Cheese> in this position you look more townie [04:05] <Zephirdd> or that voting without thinking would cause consequences [04:05] <Zephirdd> I went for a FoS mainly for that 01[04:06] <Vertual_Cheese> there might be list checks eg 4 of 7 voters on person x were mafia 01[04:06] <Vertual_Cheese> i assume thats what the voting thing is, based off the hdiden mechanics for multilynch and anti roleclaim just being our powers 01[04:06] <Vertual_Cheese> unless the voting thing is purely our smokescreen ability [04:06] <Zephirdd> Well, we got to know how the multilynch sys works [04:08] <Zephirdd> it won't kill more than six people unless we use a smokebomb [04:08] <Zephirdd> maybe some role could have received info on that voting system 01[04:08] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm his latest post 01[04:08] <Vertual_Cheese> he actually checked your filter now 01[04:09] <Vertual_Cheese> push him as scummy, dont defend yourself unless its fixing your arguments against him [04:09] <Zephirdd> "I didn't vote just yet because we were warned about consequences of just voting away, yet you are pretty comfortable of going on vote crazy, as if it was good for your somehow." 01[04:09] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm 01[04:10] <Vertual_Cheese> add to that asking if he knows something we dont [04:10] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[04:10] <Vertual_Cheese> ask why hes encouraging people to throw away more votes 01[04:10] <Vertual_Cheese> and it sounds pretty good 01[04:11] <Vertual_Cheese> his latest post on you, point out that it isnt an inconsistancy at all 01[04:11] <Vertual_Cheese> and tell him he's only making strawman cases on people as excuses to throw out votes [04:11] <Zephirdd> yeah working on it 01[04:12] <Vertual_Cheese> just making sure you dont miss any opportunity to make him look like the bad guy here [04:12] <Zephirdd> this is really fun [04:12] <Zephirdd> XD 01[04:12] <Vertual_Cheese> scum is the best part of the game :D [04:12] <Zephirdd> this is like 4chan arguing [04:12] <Zephirdd> except its a game 01[04:13] <Vertual_Cheese> i havnt actually been around 4chan much 01[04:13] <Vertual_Cheese> a friend posted ponies on my ip and got me banned [04:13] <Zephirdd> ROFL [04:14] <Zephirdd> I never got to 4chan actually [04:14] <Zephirdd> just an expression really 01[04:14] <Vertual_Cheese> oh lol 01[04:14] <Vertual_Cheese> it sounds about right regardless [04:19] <Zephirdd> oh shit sabin [04:19] <Zephirdd> t_t 01[04:19] <Vertual_Cheese> he can explain his death note thing easily enough 01[04:19] <Vertual_Cheese> outside of that it doesnt seem like much 01[04:20] <Vertual_Cheese> he should find a case on somebody, acting like a lurker might not work this game [04:21] <Zephirdd> :s [04:21] <Zephirdd> check QT 01[04:21] <Vertual_Cheese> yes sir [04:21] <Zephirdd> fuck I'm fucking pro-lal fuck I'll ahve to fucking vote for sabin FUUUUUUUUUUCK [04:22] <Zephirdd> lol 01[04:22] <Vertual_Cheese> wait to see how much effort he puts into his reply 01[04:22] <Vertual_Cheese> we dont want to lose someone day 1 if we can avoid it [04:23] <Zephirdd> if I reply, I'll have to vote on him [04:23] <Zephirdd> it even enforces my "pro-LAL" status 01[04:23] <Vertual_Cheese> you said something about giving the people a chance if im not mistaken 01[04:24] <Vertual_Cheese> once he explains his death note mafia and how it doesnt count, it wont be lying [04:24] <Zephirdd> ehh [04:24] <Zephirdd> the DN mafia thing [04:24] <Zephirdd> was me [04:24] <Zephirdd> >_. 01[04:24] <Vertual_Cheese> oh 01[04:24] <Vertual_Cheese> ooops 01[04:24] <Vertual_Cheese> so wait [04:24] <Zephirdd> he played Mafia on SC2 01[04:24] <Vertual_Cheese> oh even better [04:25] <Zephirdd> I also mentioned that my votes would also be volatile; when he explains himself I could just unvote him 01[04:25] <Vertual_Cheese> as long as you dont look too eager when you do unvote him 01[04:25] <Vertual_Cheese> and remember that it sets a precident to unvote townies as well 01[04:26] <Vertual_Cheese> then by all means this is a good chance to vote a team mate 01[04:26] <Vertual_Cheese> dont post about chaoser yet 01[04:26] <Vertual_Cheese> im thinking it through [04:26] <Zephirdd> :s 01[04:27] <Vertual_Cheese> when you form paragraphs 01[04:27] <Vertual_Cheese> use the good material at the front 01[04:27] <Vertual_Cheese> not at the end 01[04:27] <Vertual_Cheese> it makes a much better statement [04:27] <Zephirdd> so for example 01[04:27] <Vertual_Cheese> the rest of the paragraph explains the statement and how it fits in [04:28] <Zephirdd> the first paragraph [04:28] <Zephirdd> I take the question and move it to the beginning [04:28] <Zephirdd> Why are you encouraging people to vote like that, are you benefiting from it somehow? I didn't vote just yet because we were warned about consequences of just voting away, yet you are pretty comfortable of going on vote crazy, as if it was good for your somehow, as if you knew something we don't. 01[04:28] <Vertual_Cheese> ask him if he knows something we dont first 01[04:28] <Vertual_Cheese> its the strongest part 01[04:28] <Vertual_Cheese> then use the encouraging questiong before working backwards [04:29] <Zephirdd> "Do you know something we don't? Why are you encouraging people to vote like that, are you benefiting from it somehow? I didn't vote just yet because we were warned about consequences of just voting away, yet you are pretty comfortable of going on vote crazy, as if it was good for your somehow." 01[04:29] <Vertual_Cheese> perfect 01[04:29] <Vertual_Cheese> more or less [04:29] <Zephirdd> 01[04:29] <Vertual_Cheese> now that middle paragraph 01[04:29] <Vertual_Cheese> whats that even referring to [04:30] <Zephirdd> his whole post [04:30] <Zephirdd> actually [04:30] <Zephirdd> the one he posts I'm scum 01[04:30] <Vertual_Cheese> if i didnt pick it up, others wont too 01[04:30] <Vertual_Cheese> it looks kind of our of place 01[04:30] <Vertual_Cheese> im not saying it doesnt fit there 01[04:30] <Vertual_Cheese> quote him, point out how you didnt contradict yourself 01[04:31] <Vertual_Cheese> even better, quote him and ask if that was meant to be some sort of contradiction [04:33] <Zephirdd> huh, that last sentence could just be removed [04:33] <Zephirdd> or something [04:34] <Zephirdd> also sabin just explained himself [04:34] <Zephirdd> 01[04:34] <Vertual_Cheese> oh missed a major point 01[04:34] <Vertual_Cheese> awesome sabin :D [04:34] <Zephirdd> check QT [04:34] <Zephirdd> (forgot to say that) 01[04:36] <Vertual_Cheese> after the [red]scum part 01[04:36] <Vertual_Cheese> instead of i dont get it my stance was x 01[04:36] <Vertual_Cheese> i dont get it was that supposed to be a contradiction 01[04:36] <Vertual_Cheese> the scum part was just filler to make it look more convincing for other townies 01[04:37] <Vertual_Cheese> you could probably expand on that if you wanted to, 'instead of adding actual content, he added filler to make his post bigger' [04:37] <Zephirdd> nah [04:37] <Zephirdd> that would go against me actually [04:37] <Zephirdd> =p 01[04:38] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah it might 01[04:38] <Vertual_Cheese> use DCIX whatever his name is instead of 666 01[04:38] <Vertual_Cheese> people wont get who you mean [04:38] <Zephirdd> really? [04:38] <Zephirdd> oh [04:39] <Zephirdd> I scrapped that one 01[04:39] <Vertual_Cheese> if you want to mention that you worked it out, just add (666 lol) or something after it [04:39] <Zephirdd> I kinda scrapped the 666 part [04:39] <Zephirdd> I suppose he actually set a trap for me [04:39] <Zephirdd> with these random votes 01[04:39] <Vertual_Cheese> fair enough 01[04:39] <Vertual_Cheese> eh getting called out on shitty voting isnt much of a trap 01[04:40] <Vertual_Cheese> he might spin it that way as an afterthought, but it likely wasnt a trap to begin with 01[04:40] <Vertual_Cheese> any half decent townie should have been calling him out [04:40] <Zephirdd> k [04:40] <Zephirdd> check the last QT 01[04:41] <Vertual_Cheese> that 01[04:41] <Vertual_Cheese> is pretty good 01[04:41] <Vertual_Cheese> post worthy even [04:41] <Zephirdd> ZOMG POSTWORHTY [04:41] <Zephirdd> lol XD [04:41] <Zephirdd> It's like joining TL all over again 01[04:41] <Vertual_Cheese> it could use more work still probably but its something id be proud to call my own [04:41] <Zephirdd> suddenly I have to take ultra care with my posts [04:42] <Zephirdd> otherwise I get 90 days bans 01[04:42] <Vertual_Cheese> haha oh man 01[04:42] <Vertual_Cheese> id almost forgotten what those days were like before joining mafia [04:42] <Zephirdd> I actually took a 30 day ban once 01[04:42] <Vertual_Cheese> really? 01[04:42] <Vertual_Cheese> ive had two warnings 01[04:42] <Vertual_Cheese> what was the ban for? [04:42] <Zephirdd> posted memes three times [04:43] <Zephirdd> the second time, I received a warning [04:43] <Zephirdd> "We wont ban you because you have good posts" [04:43] <Zephirdd> kthx 01[04:43] <Vertual_Cheese> rofl epic 01[04:45] <Vertual_Cheese> that mistake i missed earlier [04:45] <Zephirdd> ..? 01[04:45] <Vertual_Cheese> sabin should have waited a few hours before replying, and made it a good one 01[04:46] <Vertual_Cheese> make it look like he isnt just lurking and reply at any time 01[04:46] <Vertual_Cheese> replying* 01[04:48] <Vertual_Cheese> alright well i guess ill sleep, ill see what goes down while im out [04:48] <Zephirdd> 'night bro [04:48] <Zephirdd> ^^ 01[04:48] <Vertual_Cheese> night 01[04:49] <Vertual_Cheese> ill stick around on irc for logs sake, the host wants them 01[04:49] <Vertual_Cheese> your probably better off sending questions @ grey [04:49] <Zephirdd> k 03[05:34] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [05:34] <GreYMisT> sup 03[05:35] * GreYMisT is now known as NotGreYMisT [05:54] <Zephirdd> sup 02[05:58] * NotGreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 03[06:04] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [06:05] <Zephirdd> soooo [06:05] <Zephirdd> wassup [06:05] <Zephirdd> I'm thinking of a way to answer chaoser without looking weird and going defensive mode, wanna check the post? [06:08] <GreYMisT> sure y not [06:11] <Zephirdd> pm [06:12] <GreYMisT> yea i repied [06:13] <Zephirdd> Okay [06:13] <Zephirdd> Will do [06:14] <Zephirdd> holy shit [06:14] <Zephirdd> almost hit the "Post" button by mistake [06:14] <Zephirdd> LOL [06:14] <GreYMisT> haha [06:15] <GreYMisT> if you are having trouble with the whole "blending in without blending in" thing, you can let me, cyber, and coag focus on pushing the mafia agenda, while you just pretend to be town [06:15] <Zephirdd> huh [06:15] <Zephirdd> idont get it [06:16] <GreYMisT> what i said? [06:17] <Zephirdd> the mafia agenda [06:17] <Zephirdd> what mafia agenda? [06:17] <Zephirdd> .-. [06:17] <GreYMisT> we basically want to be seen as vanilla town, but at the same time push townies against each other and seed chaos in the thread [06:18] <GreYMisT> the latter is the "agenda" [06:18] <Zephirdd> oh i c [06:18] <GreYMisT> for newer scum players its hard to do both at the same time [06:18] <GreYMisT> and most mafia teams split up roles, like have one guy lurk, have another be chaotic, have another lead the town [06:18] <GreYMisT> ect [06:18] <Zephirdd> interesting [06:18] <Zephirdd> = [06:19] <Zephirdd> =o 02[06:19] * TriforceGuy (webchat@69.24.39.91) Quit (Ping timeout) [06:19] <Zephirdd> Also, someone said that the DN-themed mafia game seemed interesting, is it okay if I post a "concept" thread on the mafia forum? [06:19] <Zephirdd> Like, not hosting it or anything, just a thread that talks about the concept of it [06:20] <GreYMisT> you can post in the misc thread [06:20] <GreYMisT> or the active games one [06:20] <Zephirdd> misc thread it is [06:20] <Zephirdd> [06:22] <GreYMisT> well coag has posted in the thread, so we are all present and accounted for. [06:24] <Zephirdd> lol I like that [06:24] <Zephirdd> "if we dont know what to do, kill Kenpachi!" 02[06:31] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 03[06:35] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [06:38] <Zephirdd> Sabin looks pretty much dead at this point [06:38] <Zephirdd> lol [06:39] <GreYMisT> a lot can happen in 3 days [06:39] <GreYMisT> but most likely he will get lynched either day 1 or day 2 [06:39] <Zephirdd> 2 days actually [06:39] <GreYMisT> well ye [06:39] <Zephirdd> it ends at the 17th, 9pm EST [06:39] <Zephirdd> also, what are coag's powers? [06:40] <GreYMisT> he hasnt siad [06:40] <Zephirdd> at least sabin is the one mafia without abilities [06:40] <GreYMisT> said* [06:40] <Zephirdd> [06:40] <GreYMisT> I might as well not have abilites, mine are very hard to use correctly [06:41] <GreYMisT> is Cyber actually here? or is he just hanging out? [06:41] <Zephirdd> hanging [06:42] <GreYMisT> cause me and him have to use our powers together [06:42] <Zephirdd> he said he would go to sleep some time ago [06:42] <Zephirdd> whats his power...? [06:42] <GreYMisT> tracker [06:42] <Zephirdd> that means he can detect roles? [06:43] <GreYMisT> he can choose one person to "follow" each night and will get a list of the people they visited [06:43] <GreYMisT> i think [06:43] <GreYMisT> using the info he gets I can guess better what blue role someone has [06:43] <GreYMisT> on top of that trackers are almost always town roles [06:43] <Zephirdd> oh, cool [06:46] <Zephirdd> check out the misc thread [06:47] <Zephirdd> [06:47] <GreYMisT> yea i read it [07:17] <Zephirdd> prplhz is really scum-biased, isnt he... 02[07:20] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) 02[08:29] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03[08:29] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 03[10:31] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [10:31] <GreYMisT> greetings all [10:34] <Zephirdd> hihi [10:35] <Zephirdd> also [10:35] <Zephirdd> is it fine that kitaman27 pointed that thing out? [10:35] <Zephirdd> I mean, he isn't playing, but he basically broke chaoser's argument there [10:35] <GreYMisT> pointed what out? [10:35] <GreYMisT> oh posted in the game? [10:35] <Zephirdd> that he lost that game [10:35] <GreYMisT> yea as long as its not game relevant, observers can post [10:36] <Zephirdd> Well, it kinda seems relevant to his argument [10:36] <GreYMisT> they are encouraged to keep it to a minimum [10:36] <GreYMisT> its information anyone can go look up i thikn [10:36] <GreYMisT> idk 02[10:36] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 03[10:36] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [10:36] <Zephirdd> I'd be fine if someone ingame posted it =p [10:37] <Zephirdd> it is available to everyone, but still [10:40] <GreYMisT> I dont think it matters that much. you're still voting for chaoser right? [10:41] <Zephirdd> yup [10:41] <Zephirdd> didnt unvote him [10:41] <GreYMisT> yea thats good [10:41] <Zephirdd> getting him lynched day 1 would be really good imo [10:41] <GreYMisT> start look through the game for people you can build a case on [10:42] <GreYMisT> and keep that in the back of your mind [10:42] <Zephirdd> okay [10:42] <GreYMisT> Im going to try and subtly push that WBG and chaoser have to be on different teams [10:42] <Zephirdd> oh, and what about MLG? [10:42] <GreYMisT> actually no [10:43] <Zephirdd> I sure hope I'm not the only one who will be semi inactive during it? [10:43] <GreYMisT> no some other people will im sure [10:43] <Zephirdd> I mean, I can post once a day, but not analyze stuff [10:43] <Zephirdd> esp. because I'll probably be drunk in a barcraft [10:45] <GreYMisT> haha lucky [10:46] <Zephirdd> ^_^ [10:48] <Zephirdd> welp, I'm out [10:48] <Zephirdd> cya 02[10:48] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) [10:54] <GreYMisT> cya 02[11:00] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[13:43] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [13:44] <GreYMisT> you there cyber? 01[13:44] <Vertual_Cheese> am now 01[13:44] <Vertual_Cheese> woah what 01[13:44] <Vertual_Cheese> same minte :/ 01[13:51] <Vertual_Cheese> sup anyway [14:00] <GreYMisT> hey [14:00] <GreYMisT> so how are you [14:00] <GreYMisT> you good? 01[14:01] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah pretty good [14:01] <GreYMisT> you and I need to use our roles together btw [14:01] <GreYMisT> i thik 01[14:02] <Vertual_Cheese> deciding my next move, ive got a vote on prp that basically explains itself [14:02] <GreYMisT> track people and we will try to figure out what blue role they have 01[14:02] <Vertual_Cheese> not sure if i should push him, return to my heroruby fos or find someone else [14:02] <GreYMisT> if you have already voted prp push him [14:02] <GreYMisT> dont want to look like you are too jumpy 01[14:02] <Vertual_Cheese> heh yeah, the best part is trackers typically a town role [14:03] <GreYMisT> i know, its awesome 01[14:03] <Vertual_Cheese> i dont mean pushing someone else to the point of voting [14:04] <GreYMisT> no i know, but if you already voted for someone you should be trying to get others to vote for him [14:04] <GreYMisT> or try to get him to prove his innocense 01[14:04] <Vertual_Cheese> fair enough 02[14:13] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 03[21:04] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[21:14] <Vertual_Cheese> howdy 01[22:10] <Vertual_Cheese> or not 01[23:56] <Vertual_Cheese> well im around for another four hours or so anyway 01[23:56] <Vertual_Cheese> just saying Session Time: Thu Nov 17 00:00:00 2011 [00:40] <Zephirdd> and I'm back now [00:40] <Zephirdd> =p 01[00:50] <Vertual_Cheese> howdy 01[00:50] <Vertual_Cheese> :D 01[00:50] <Vertual_Cheese> alright so heres the deal 01[00:51] <Vertual_Cheese> do i claim that we cant prove chaoser lied, and he might just be screwing with the LaL policy 01[00:51] <Vertual_Cheese> or do I use the excuse for a chance to vote him off 01[00:51] <Vertual_Cheese> on the one hand, ive said very rigourously that we should lynch liars 01[00:52] <Vertual_Cheese> but on the other, if he flips especially, I look a little better [00:53] <Zephirdd> IMO we should get chaoser lynched [00:53] <Zephirdd> and we are in a good direction for that [00:53] <Zephirdd> no point in risking a fake lie-claim, unless you can really prove it [00:53] <Zephirdd> Also, Palmar is helping us a lot 01[00:53] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah, im glad he seems to be agreeing with most of my moves [00:54] <Zephirdd> also, what are coag's powers? 01[00:54] <Vertual_Cheese> dont know 01[00:54] <Vertual_Cheese> hes done almost nothing as far as i can tell [00:54] <Zephirdd> :s [00:54] <Zephirdd> I hope he can survive this day at least 01[00:54] <Vertual_Cheese> at this point, he is free townie cred, and dead weight 01[00:55] <Vertual_Cheese> if he becomes active he'll survive easily [00:56] <Zephirdd> Also, I love how people turned over chaoser [00:56] <Zephirdd> when I turned defensive [00:56] <Zephirdd> props to grey 01[00:56] <Vertual_Cheese> ill admit I might have been wrong 01[00:56] <Vertual_Cheese> the defensive suits you much better [00:57] <Zephirdd> during my times of playdota.com and naruto/onepiece arguing, everyone turned to my side because I was never aggressive [00:57] <Zephirdd> so even if I was wrong, at least the other guy(s) received shit for being aggressive 01[00:58] <Vertual_Cheese> they wont be getting shit for that if they use good arguments in mafia [00:59] <Zephirdd> yes, I know [00:59] <Zephirdd> because this is actually a game, and in the end we are all acting and nothing is serious [00:59] <Zephirdd> (hopefully) 01[00:59] <Vertual_Cheese> that was me salvaging whatever pride i could, in my method being less effective 01[00:59] <Vertual_Cheese> [01:00] <Zephirdd> [01:00] <Zephirdd> it worked however [01:00] <Zephirdd> going aggressive and backing off [01:00] <Zephirdd> people are all over chaoser now 01[01:00] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah, you did it really well 01[01:01] <Vertual_Cheese> if coag hasn't posted anything substancial before i retire for the night im going to vote chaoser and him in one go 01[01:03] <Vertual_Cheese> LOL drazerks latest post 01[01:03] <Vertual_Cheese> lotr was an awesome game 01[01:03] <Vertual_Cheese> my only regret in that game was palmar winning as third party [01:03] <Zephirdd> :OP [01:03] <Zephirdd> :O [01:03] <Zephirdd> how did he win? 01[01:05] <Vertual_Cheese> oh 01[01:06] <Vertual_Cheese> mostly one liners 01[01:06] <Vertual_Cheese> calling people bad 01[01:06] <Vertual_Cheese> not contributing all that much 01[01:06] <Vertual_Cheese> i used some pretty bad logic that he called me on a fair amount, so i wasnt actually able to get him lynched 01[01:07] <Vertual_Cheese> i was scum, we ended up losing because chaoser changed allegience from third party to townie and single handedly brought it back 01[01:07] <Vertual_Cheese> now i remember that we should definitely have him lynched [01:07] <Zephirdd> :O [01:07] <Zephirdd> his third party won if town+mafia died? 01[01:08] <Vertual_Cheese> his allegience changed when palmar won, some third parties can leave the game andit continues 01[01:08] <Vertual_Cheese> they were both seeking the one ring, palmar got it first and chaoser couldnt kill him [01:15] <Zephirdd> oh [01:15] <Zephirdd> =o [01:15] <Zephirdd> so [01:15] <Zephirdd> do I post something [01:15] <Zephirdd> stay silent for some more [01:15] <Zephirdd> people basically forgot my existance 01[01:16] <Vertual_Cheese> no post something 01[01:16] <Vertual_Cheese> you have a choice 01[01:16] <Vertual_Cheese> 1) find something scummy about someone else, prod them about it 01[01:17] <Vertual_Cheese> 2) look at other exsisting cases and say something about them 01[01:17] <Vertual_Cheese> or 01[01:17] <Vertual_Cheese> 3) post more on chaoser, reiterate why he is the best lynch 01[01:19] <Vertual_Cheese> sec im looking through your filter to give you a lowdown on which i think is best [01:20] <Zephirdd> Well, I'm fine not talking about chaoser 01[01:20] <Vertual_Cheese> you still have a vote on palmar if im not mistaken [01:20] <Zephirdd> I could go semi silent and vote on Kenpachi and Sabin or something like that [01:20] <Zephirdd> yes [01:21] <Zephirdd> Oh yeah, I have to unvote him actually [01:21] <Zephirdd> as I said my votes would be volatile, and I voted on him because he was proving to be useless 01[01:21] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah you specifically said youd take it off if he did something  [01:24] <Zephirdd> I'll go into something like [01:24] <Zephirdd> Vote Kenpachi, people gave enough reasons back there 01[01:24] <Vertual_Cheese> lurker discussion is fairly scummy if theres already a good lurker candidate ... hmm 01[01:25] <Vertual_Cheese> oh wait 01[01:26] <Vertual_Cheese> kenpachis up as a lurker too [01:26] <Zephirdd> yes 01[01:26] <Vertual_Cheese> i didnt even notice coag had competition [01:26] <Zephirdd> rofl 01[01:27] <Vertual_Cheese> if your going to vote sabin, wait till he makes another mistake or two imo 01[01:27] <Vertual_Cheese> the case on him isnt really that strong [01:27] <Zephirdd> I won't [01:27] <Zephirdd> my post is fairly simplistic atm [01:28] <Zephirdd> "Also, as I said, I agree with lynching lurkers. We shouldn't go apeshit over them, but at least one lurker should go." [01:28] <Zephirdd> then vote kenpachi 01[01:29] <Vertual_Cheese> ill ask you why kenpachi over coag if you do that 01[01:29] <Vertual_Cheese> have a good responce ready if your going to 01[01:29] <Vertual_Cheese> something about applying pressure to more than one lurker maybe [01:30] <Zephirdd> I don't know much about people's past, but kenpachi's past is claiming green day 1; coag has a reputation of being a good player [01:30] <Zephirdd> so either coag dies to mafia, or he'll prove to be more useful later on 01[01:30] <Vertual_Cheese> woah 01[01:30] <Vertual_Cheese> nice one [01:30] <Zephirdd> [01:30] <Zephirdd> okey [01:31] <Zephirdd> posted [01:34] <Zephirdd> my ID is 111188 =O 01[01:35] <Vertual_Cheese> that took much longer than it should have 01[01:35] <Vertual_Cheese> check the QT, i made a text document with everyones filters 01[01:36] <Vertual_Cheese> I really feel like I could have worded that better 01[01:36] <Vertual_Cheese> ffff [01:37] <Zephirdd> >.> 01[01:37] <Vertual_Cheese> drazerks reply makes me feel better about it [01:38] <Zephirdd> rofl 01[01:42] <Vertual_Cheese> here i should probably be trying to convince you that coag is the better person to pressure, based off my previous statements 01[01:43] <Vertual_Cheese> not sure if i should bother with that, or just watch and hope coag shows up [01:44] <Zephirdd> dont bother with that imo 01[01:46] <Vertual_Cheese> i dont actually know much about kenpachi 01[01:47] <Vertual_Cheese> ive had him on my mafia team once, he was fairly useless, and that was that [01:47] <Zephirdd> :| 01[01:49] <Vertual_Cheese> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&user=51151 01[01:50] <Vertual_Cheese> he was the last living scum out of 12 that game 01[01:50] <Vertual_Cheese> and he wasnt really using pms either if memory serves 01[01:50] <Vertual_Cheese> but i dont know if thats standard or not 01[01:51] <Vertual_Cheese> i suppose ive already stated where i stand and convinced palmar 01[01:51] <Vertual_Cheese> that'll do [02:06] <Zephirdd> k [02:06] <Zephirdd> [02:28] <Zephirdd> lol Palmar 01[02:29] <Vertual_Cheese> rofl! 01[02:29] <Vertual_Cheese> It seems Palmar had overlooked your part in finding out Chaoser was scum 01[02:29] <Vertual_Cheese> pretty much perfect because when he flips town we can blame Palmar [02:29] <Zephirdd> yup [02:30] <Zephirdd> "I had reasons to believe he was scum!" 01[02:30] <Vertual_Cheese> that of course assumes nothing changes over the next 4/5 days, almost impossible [02:30] <Zephirdd> however, I wonder 01[02:30] <Vertual_Cheese> but still good [02:30] <Zephirdd> what if he is lynchproof? 01[02:30] <Vertual_Cheese> unlikely 01[02:30] <Vertual_Cheese> i think hes some sorta blue laying low [02:30] <Zephirdd> I wonder if coag is lynchproff as well [02:31] <Zephirdd> I mean, would be a badass ability for a mafia 01[02:31] <Vertual_Cheese> lynch proof isnt very common though in my experience [02:31] <Zephirdd> I do believe chaoser and HarbingerOfDoom are both blues 01[02:31] <Vertual_Cheese> it was in the pick your power game and noone even chose it if memory serves [02:32] <Zephirdd> :O 01[02:32] <Vertual_Cheese> imma look through hods filter [02:32] <Zephirdd> his first post in the game in particular [02:32] <Zephirdd> he instantly assumes that roles have multiple powers 01[02:32] <Vertual_Cheese> the thing with overpowered roles is you assume other people have them in PYP games [02:32] <Zephirdd> We never had a confirmation of that until we got our roles [02:32] <Zephirdd> my role has multiple powers, but yours doesnt also [02:33] <Zephirdd> so I believe he is blue with multi powers as well 01[02:33] <Vertual_Cheese> oh yeah hes definitely blue [02:33] <Zephirdd> also, what should I do with my actions? 01[02:33] <Vertual_Cheese> his second and third posts seem to show it too [02:33] <Zephirdd> I was thinking of whitewashing me or sabin 01[02:33] <Vertual_Cheese> your the joat? [02:34] <Zephirdd> Blackjack [02:34] <Zephirdd> I have three powers [02:34] <Zephirdd> whitewash, protect and roleblock 01[02:34] <Vertual_Cheese> its a scum aligned jack of all trades methinks [02:34] <Zephirdd> I thought JOAT could do absolutely anything with limitations [02:34] <Zephirdd> I don't have limits; only that I can only use one action [02:34] <Zephirdd> I can use them on myself even [02:35] <Zephirdd> (well, not roleblock, but you get it) 01[02:35] <Vertual_Cheese> in terms of the joats ive seen on tl thats more or less on par [02:36] <Zephirdd> I like how both me and Palmar have hearts [02:36] <Zephirdd> on our signatures 01[02:36] <Vertual_Cheese> generally its some sort of dt, a medic and a vig balled into one 01[02:36] <Vertual_Cheese> ROFL [02:36] <Zephirdd> one would think we are Mason or Mafia 01[02:36] <Vertual_Cheese> especially when yours is above his 01[02:36] <Vertual_Cheese> wait [02:36] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[02:36] <Vertual_Cheese> other way around maybe 01[02:36] <Vertual_Cheese> not sure 01[02:37] <Vertual_Cheese> awesome nonetheless [02:37] <Zephirdd> I swear I have nothing to do with it! XD 01[02:38] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm, you want to tell nisani to stop being lazy because the host is a bot, or shall I? [02:38] <Zephirdd> idk what you are talking about [02:38] <Zephirdd> so go ahead [02:38] <Zephirdd> lol! 01[02:38] <Vertual_Cheese> refresh the page [02:38] <Zephirdd> oh [02:39] <Zephirdd> idk how to answer it [02:39] <Zephirdd> go ahead [02:39] <Zephirdd> I'll actually do a votecount 01[02:40] <Vertual_Cheese> ive been putting off making one 01[02:40] <Vertual_Cheese> if you dont want to bother i will actually get around to it before i sleep 01[02:40] <Vertual_Cheese> [02:40] <Zephirdd> already begun 01[02:41] <Vertual_Cheese> awesome [02:45] <Zephirdd> done [02:45] <Zephirdd> Kenpachi 6 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Hiroruby 1 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Prplhz 1 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Nisani201 2 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Forumite 3 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Kibibit 1 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Zephirdd 1 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Sabin010 3 [02:45] <Zephirdd> chaoser 5 [02:45] <Zephirdd> Sinani206 2 [02:46] <Zephirdd> Coagulation 1 [02:46] <Zephirdd> Drazerk 2 01[02:46] <Vertual_Cheese> oh my god im an idiot 01[02:46] <Vertual_Cheese> i should have shown you an example of the format 01[02:46] <Vertual_Cheese> that we usually use [02:46] <Zephirdd> nvm 01[02:46] <Vertual_Cheese> basically names followed by the voters on them [02:46] <Zephirdd> check post #5 01[02:46] <Vertual_Cheese> to see who voted where [02:47] <Zephirdd> zBot counting [02:47] <Zephirdd> >_> [02:47] <Zephirdd> I even counted it wrong [02:47] <Zephirdd> XD 01[02:47] <Vertual_Cheese> WHAT 01[02:47] <Vertual_Cheese> it does that! 01[02:47] <Vertual_Cheese> epic [02:51] <Zephirdd> interesting, Sabin is in a pretty nice spot actually [02:52] <Zephirdd> not nearly enough votes for a lynch however 01[03:00] <Vertual_Cheese> he wasnt really focused at all 01[03:01] <Vertual_Cheese> i just realised it was you who overlooked his scum slip 01[03:01] <Vertual_Cheese> shouldnt matter at all, hes in trouble if you die and not vice versa, but honestly, other lurkers will die first [03:02] <Zephirdd> wha, what do I have to do with him? [03:02] <Zephirdd> õ_o [03:02] <Zephirdd> I dont remember talking about him at all 01[03:03] <Vertual_Cheese> maybe im mistaken 01[03:03] <Vertual_Cheese> hold up 01[03:03] <Vertual_Cheese> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=16#308 01[03:04] <Vertual_Cheese> your three posts below 01[03:04] <Vertual_Cheese> its not very important at all [03:11] <Zephirdd> nope, its just confirming that both me and him dont understand the terms [03:11] <Zephirdd> lolç 01[03:25] <Vertual_Cheese> ye around sarge? 01[03:25] <Vertual_Cheese> check the QT 01[03:26] <Vertual_Cheese> I know I should be improving those votes, looking for suggestions [03:27] <Zephirdd> dunno, in the current state of the game, you don't need much more than that to vote on them [03:28] <Zephirdd> the problem would be voting on a new person [03:29] <Zephirdd> hiroruby and sabin are fairly close to the 24h threshold [03:29] <Zephirdd> in fact [03:29] <Zephirdd> they have about 60 minutes to vote 01[03:30] <Vertual_Cheese> some help you are 01[03:30] <Vertual_Cheese> check the QT 01[03:30] <Vertual_Cheese> massive improvement or? 01[03:30] <Vertual_Cheese> particularly the chaoser reasoning 01[03:30] <Vertual_Cheese> the rest is fine 01[03:30] <Vertual_Cheese> same content but better format [03:30] <Zephirdd> its more aggressive, chaoser will probably ask you where he was lying as you say 01[03:31] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah thats cool [03:31] <Zephirdd> well, it's better then [03:31] <Zephirdd> 01[03:31] <Vertual_Cheese> ill drop the terrible logic part i think 01[03:31] <Vertual_Cheese> true or otherwise it just kind of seems to extend it too much [03:31] <Zephirdd> et tu brute? lolz [03:32] <Zephirdd> f5 the thread btw [03:32] <Zephirdd> more people voting on chaos 01[03:32] <Vertual_Cheese> hahaha [03:32] <Zephirdd> it becomes easier to get votes when more people vote on the same person [03:32] <Zephirdd> the name is "bandwagoning" right? 01[03:32] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah [03:32] <Zephirdd> also, I can't help but feel that chaoser has some sort of role connected to votes [03:32] <Zephirdd> like I said earlier [03:33] <Zephirdd> we know he isn't mafia, but we don't know if there is some hidden mechanic on that [03:33] <Zephirdd> like, he could very well have one of these "if I get lynched, I kill my first/last voter" [03:36] <Zephirdd> gotta love Lanaia's post [03:37] <Zephirdd> "Now I have an idea but its bacon time" [03:37] <Zephirdd> silly Lanaia [03:37] <Zephirdd> all time is bacon time 01[03:37] <Vertual_Cheese> rofl 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> OH dammit [03:38] <Zephirdd> ? 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> i have to work the word track into one of my posts 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> was going to breadcrumb it daily [03:38] <Zephirdd> check chaos' post [03:38] <Zephirdd> told yta [03:38] <Zephirdd> ya 01[03:40] <Vertual_Cheese> awesome, I got track in [03:40] <Zephirdd> you do realize [03:40] <Zephirdd> that logic is flawed, right? [03:41] <Zephirdd> he never admitted to not be VT, therefore you can't really prove his lie 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> no, but can you 100% prove any lie? [03:41] <Zephirdd> "...how do you know I lied about my VT claim?" [03:41] <Zephirdd> he said it best [03:41] <Zephirdd> >_> [03:41] <Zephirdd> well [03:42] <Zephirdd> you could answer with 'because you are scum' and go Palmar style [03:42] <Zephirdd> lol 01[03:43] <Vertual_Cheese> Nah, I'm going to rough it out [03:43] <Zephirdd> good luck with that 01[03:44] <Vertual_Cheese> If I don't use good logic it'll look worse when he flips [03:44] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[03:46] <Vertual_Cheese> alright him asking that should be enough to get me off the hook now 01[03:46] <Vertual_Cheese> @ the dt thing 01[04:00] <Vertual_Cheese> well i could have handled that better [04:04] <Zephirdd> meh, the time I'm active is the time noone is [04:04] <Zephirdd> nothing happens lol! [04:12] <Zephirdd> "cool" [04:12] <Zephirdd> best response ever [04:12] <Zephirdd> lol 01[04:12] <Vertual_Cheese> that 01[04:12] <Vertual_Cheese> is going to get taken out of context 01[04:13] <Vertual_Cheese> ill have to remind people that was his mafia guise in future [04:14] <Zephirdd> I hope he gets lynched day 1 [04:14] <Zephirdd> >_. [04:14] <Zephirdd> >_> [04:14] <Zephirdd> needs 7 more people for that lynch tho 01[04:14] <Vertual_Cheese> if i keep screwing up defining my exact argument against him like that 01[04:15] <Vertual_Cheese> he might not be 01[04:15] <Vertual_Cheese> but it should be fine 01[04:16] <Vertual_Cheese> i wish the other scum were ever around 01[04:16] <Vertual_Cheese> do you want to pressure me on exactly what i meant there, or do we not need it? [04:17] <Zephirdd> I'd say wait until someone else pressures you on that; you kinda went on that "little pressure" on me when I voted for Kenpachi [04:18] <Zephirdd> we don't want people creating traces [04:18] <Zephirdd> esp. not for the lategame 01[04:19] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah 01[04:19] <Vertual_Cheese> thats why i wished more scum was around 01[04:23] <Vertual_Cheese> its been 10 minutes 01[04:23] <Vertual_Cheese> i think im going to sleep now 01[04:23] <Vertual_Cheese> ciao [04:23] <Zephirdd> cya 01[04:42] <Vertual_Cheese> hold the press, i had an idea whilsts mulling it over and relaxing 01[04:43] <Vertual_Cheese> why is the focus on chaoser on his townie thing at the start? [04:44] <Zephirdd> idk 01[04:45] <Vertual_Cheese> exactly 01[04:45] <Vertual_Cheese> it doenst have to be 01[05:05] <Vertual_Cheese> your latest post 01[05:05] <Vertual_Cheese> why does a blue have to be killed 01[05:12] <Vertual_Cheese> okay 01[05:12] <Vertual_Cheese> now im actually ouy 01[05:12] <Vertual_Cheese> out* 03[05:29] * Sabin010 (webchat@69.24.39.91) has joined #mudkips [05:29] <Sabin010> ok 666 dude called me out to pick some one [05:29] <Sabin010> i've been trying to hold a really neutral position this game [05:30] <Sabin010> but im not sure how I should react to his post [05:30] <Sabin010> and ignoring it would be a poor desicion 03[05:33] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [05:33] <GreYMisT> hello all [05:36] <GreYMisT> So I need guesses as to what Lania's role is called in case we dont get him killed today [05:37] <GreYMisT> actually nvm, his role would be a variant of "pardoner" [05:38] <Zephirdd> heyo [05:38] <Zephirdd> pardoner? [05:39] <Zephirdd> wouldnt it he "Anti-Voter? [05:39] <Zephirdd> " [05:40] <GreYMisT> I have to attach a basic role label to my kills [05:40] <GreYMisT> if their role is a variant of the label i attach, the kill goes through [05:40] <Zephirdd> oh [05:40] <GreYMisT> anti-voter is closest to pardoner [05:41] <Zephirdd> also, lulz @ everyone going apeshit over Lanaia [05:41] <Zephirdd> If I were town I wouldn't do that, but then if I were town I'd probably be ultra conservative to anything [05:41] <GreYMisT> thats what we want. [05:41] <Zephirdd> yeah [05:41] <GreYMisT> one of us needs to argue for him [05:41] <GreYMisT> so he doesnt die to the lynch [05:42] <GreYMisT> and then ill kill him tonight [05:42] <GreYMisT> or tomorrow night [05:42] <GreYMisT> or whatever [05:42] <Zephirdd> you see, there is something weird with lynching it day1 like that [05:42] <Zephirdd> if I were town, I'd go "why dont we at least wait until day2 for Lanaia, so we see Mafia's reaction?" or something like that [05:43] <Zephirdd> Lanaia could be shot by a vigi, killed by mafia, protected by some doc, or nothing at all [05:45] <GreYMisT> try to focus instead on asking him direct questions on his opinion, why sinani is better than kenpach. what kenpachi thinks [05:45] <GreYMisT> avoid talking about potential actions mafia would take to players for now [05:45] <Zephirdd> that's just what I'd do if I were town tho [05:46] <Zephirdd> also, coag is about to get kicked out due to lack of activity [05:46] <Zephirdd> .-. [05:47] <Zephirdd> who is the tracker btw? [05:47] <Zephirdd> cheeser? [05:47] <GreYMisT> cyber [05:47] <GreYMisT> yea [05:47] <GreYMisT> im saying ask those questions so you appear town [05:47] <Zephirdd> yeah I know [05:47] <GreYMisT> yea [05:48] <Sabin010> did you see the guy call me out on who i thought was scummiest/should kill [05:48] <Sabin010> how do I respond [05:48] <Zephirdd> IMO cheese should track HarbingerOfDoom so you kill him next day-cycle [05:48] <Sabin010> im trying to play doctor [05:48] <Zephirdd> ^Grey, your call [05:48] <Zephirdd> lol [05:49] <GreYMisT> one sec [05:49] <GreYMisT> working the thread atm, haha [05:51] <GreYMisT> Sabin the best option is to look over the thread and find someone you actually think is scummy as if you were town. try not to choose chaoser unless you can bring new things to the table. [05:51] <GreYMisT> because then it looks like you are hopping onto the bandwagon [05:51] <Sabin010> I can't pick lamia [05:51] <Sabin010> or the lurkers [05:52] <Zephirdd> the guy asked who was the scummiest on your eyes, as if you were town [05:52] <Zephirdd> even if it is chaoser, if you bring enough arguments, you could roll with it [05:53] <GreYMisT> give me one sec [05:54] <GreYMisT> you can vote kenpachi, based on his reaction to getting voted righ tnow [05:54] <GreYMisT> getting overly defensive and the like [05:54] <GreYMisT> or vote sinani, but thats risky [05:56] <Zephirdd> Lanaia is a girl? [05:56] <GreYMisT> idk [05:57] <Zephirdd> lol [06:04] <Zephirdd> what [06:04] <Zephirdd> there are no [size] tags on TL?! [06:05] <GreYMisT> i dont think so [06:05] <Zephirdd> ffs [06:05] <Zephirdd> >< [06:05] <GreYMisT> but there are red and blue and stuff [06:05] <Zephirdd> yeah... [06:05] <Zephirdd> I wanted to make it smaller [06:05] <Zephirdd> nvm [06:05] <GreYMisT> i think you can [06:06] <GreYMisT> but idk [06:06] <Zephirdd> also [06:06] <Zephirdd> what should I do with my action? [06:06] <Zephirdd> Whitewash someone(maybe Sabin)? [06:06] <GreYMisT> we'll figure that out later 01[06:06] <Vertual_Cheese> use [big] and [small] [06:07] <Zephirdd> or roleblock someone? [06:07] <Zephirdd> Oh, small 01[06:07] <Vertual_Cheese> dogs = no sleep ffffffff [06:07] <Zephirdd> right [06:07] <Zephirdd> .-. [06:07] <Zephirdd> aww >< [06:07] <Zephirdd> lol @ Kenpachi [06:07] <Zephirdd> going "you win mafia" [06:07] <Zephirdd> he doesnt even realize I am mafia 8D [06:07] <Zephirdd> this game is sooooooooo fun 01[06:09] <Vertual_Cheese> scum is just such an awesome role [06:09] <Zephirdd> yup [06:10] <Zephirdd> Mason should be interesting as well [06:10] <Sabin010> mason sucks [06:10] <Zephirdd> :O [06:10] <Zephirdd> why? [06:10] <Sabin010> theres only like one other mason [06:10] <Zephirdd> :< 01[06:10] <Vertual_Cheese> mason is still pretty cool [06:10] <GreYMisT> you guys will have to give me a sec, im trying to find out where this external harddrive appears on my comp [06:10] <Sabin010> and once he's lynched or killed you're just vanilla town 01[06:10] <Vertual_Cheese> someone to bounce your ideas off [06:11] <Zephirdd> would be interesting for a mafia-biased game with 4~ masons, where one of them is mafia [06:11] <Sabin010> oh man [06:11] <Sabin010> that'd be op [06:11] <Zephirdd> that'd be hilarious [06:11] <Zephirdd> XD 01[06:14] <Vertual_Cheese> im thinking ill take my vote off prp and place it on ken at this point 01[06:15] <Vertual_Cheese> his giving up thing is a perfect reason to vote him [06:16] <Zephirdd> you dont need to take your vote off [06:16] <Zephirdd> in fact, you can even "forget" the vote there 02[06:16] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) [06:16] <Zephirdd> even more so because noone is voting on him 01[06:17] <Vertual_Cheese> good point 01[06:17] <Vertual_Cheese> i probably wont need to vote kenpachi to make a majority 01[06:17] <Vertual_Cheese> no need to add myself to the bandwagon [06:18] <Sabin010> I think I should throw my arguement for 666 on some one putting up kenpachi 01[06:19] <Vertual_Cheese> probably [06:19] <Sabin010> one of those dip shits that was going ape shit after lamia did the unvote thing [06:19] <Sabin010> yeah [06:19] <Sabin010> but ill give it a few hours 01[06:19] <Vertual_Cheese> risk nuke could be interesting [06:19] <Sabin010> no reason to stay too too active 01[06:20] <Vertual_Cheese> errr 02[06:20] * Sabin010 (webchat@69.24.39.91) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 01[06:21] <Vertual_Cheese> that was active? 01[06:23] <Vertual_Cheese> he made a grand total of one post 01[06:23] <Vertual_Cheese> FFFFFFFFFF 01[06:23] <Vertual_Cheese> least its better than coag 01[06:31] <Vertual_Cheese> townies killing themselves 01[06:31] <Vertual_Cheese> massive like [06:38] <Zephirdd> yup [07:45] <Zephirdd> LOL @ Greymist's response 03[07:47] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [07:49] <GreYMisT> my posts always either end a page or start a new one -.- [07:49] <Zephirdd> lol [07:49] <Zephirdd> xD 01[07:49] <Vertual_Cheese> i love when they start new pages 01[07:49] <Vertual_Cheese> ive specifically waited around for the post that will start a new page sometimes 01[07:50] <Vertual_Cheese> though this wastes a lot of time if the thread is slow 01[07:50] <Vertual_Cheese> SINANI POSTED MORE THAN ONE LINE [07:50] <Zephirdd> WWAT 01[07:50] <Vertual_Cheese> im hoping to save him from lynch 01[07:50] <Vertual_Cheese> so we can kill someone useful [07:50] <Zephirdd> btw [07:50] <Zephirdd> who are we killing? [07:50] <Zephirdd> I dont think we can lynch chaoser nor Lanaia by tomorrow [07:51] <Zephirdd> and Lanaia should give a reasonable response, if I am thinking this right [07:51] <Zephirdd> lol @ Kenpachi and the claim thing [07:51] <Zephirdd> what is the point? 01[07:51] <Vertual_Cheese> lanaia we should be able to attack 01[07:51] <Vertual_Cheese> hes being defeatest 01[07:51] <Vertual_Cheese> allow it [07:52] <GreYMisT> We'll decide who to kill during the night after we have obtained max info 01[07:52] <Vertual_Cheese> maybe he can survive a lynch, or is jester or something [07:52] <Zephirdd> "No i want to piss you all off" [07:52] <Zephirdd> that is the point [07:52] <Zephirdd> guy is mad [07:52] <GreYMisT> ken is probally going down, we can probally get sinani if we wanted to, but most likely he might live till day2 which is fine [07:53] <GreYMisT> depending on lanaia's defense we can go for her or not [07:53] <Zephirdd> oh my [07:53] <Zephirdd> I just realized I didn't know about night mechanic [07:53] <Zephirdd> LOL [07:53] <GreYMisT> hah [07:53] <GreYMisT> cheese post in the thread about where WBG is [07:53] <GreYMisT> or zep [07:54] <Zephirdd> what with wbg? [07:54] <GreYMisT> asking why he made this massive analysis, but isnt here when shit is hitting the fan [07:54] <GreYMisT> or something 01[07:54] <Vertual_Cheese> wait run that by me again [07:54] <GreYMisT> Are you logging this cheese? 01[07:54] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah [07:54] <GreYMisT> basically we need to call attention to the fact that WBG is'nt here after he posted this big analysis [07:55] <Zephirdd> so he can use it as proof when he becomes anti-mafia out of nowhere [07:55] <GreYMisT> especially while all this is going on [07:55] <Zephirdd> lololo [07:55] <Zephirdd> well, tbh grey [07:55] <Zephirdd> timezones [07:55] <Zephirdd> :| 01[07:55] <Vertual_Cheese> WBG's analysis and he isnt around yeah? [07:56] <GreYMisT> He normally is on this time though, dont call him out on it or anytihng [07:56] <Zephirdd> 13 votes [07:56] <GreYMisT> just say "I'd like to know what WBG thinks" [07:56] <GreYMisT> seed that doubt [07:56] <GreYMisT> or something along those lines 01[07:57] <Vertual_Cheese> alright 01[07:57] <Vertual_Cheese> about chaosers defeatest attitude? [07:57] <Zephirdd> ninja harbinger [07:57] <Zephirdd> asking things I want to know too [07:58] <Zephirdd> wait [07:58] <GreYMisT> hah [07:58] <Zephirdd> can you vote on yourself?! [07:58] <GreYMisT> differs game to game [07:58] <GreYMisT> guess we will see 01[07:58] <Vertual_Cheese> i think so yeah [07:59] <Zephirdd> oh yeah [07:59] <Zephirdd> grey [07:59] <Zephirdd> def. shoot lanaia imo [07:59] <Zephirdd> [07:59] <GreYMisT> yea [07:59] <GreYMisT> i say kill palmar otherwise [07:59] <GreYMisT> with our kp [07:59] <GreYMisT> the other should go on [07:59] <GreYMisT> one sec [07:59] <GreYMisT> lemonwalrus [08:00] <GreYMisT> or LSK [08:00] <GreYMisT> LSB [08:00] <Zephirdd> and cheese track Harbinger [08:00] <Zephirdd> 100% he is blue [08:00] <GreYMisT> Im going to shoot as many people as possible with the label "doctor" in hopes i hit the medic [08:00] <Zephirdd> apparently [08:00] <Zephirdd> that was Kenpachi [08:00] <Zephirdd> look at the thread [08:01] <GreYMisT> he is probally trolling [08:01] <Zephirdd> he was a green-only medic that also functioned as watcher [08:01] <Zephirdd> I don't think so, no point in trolling at this point [08:01] <Zephirdd> he will die [08:01] <GreYMisT> we'll see [08:01] <GreYMisT> anyway i have to go [08:01] <GreYMisT> cya guys in a bit [08:02] <Zephirdd> cya 01[08:04] <Vertual_Cheese> cya 02[08:07] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) [08:21] <Zephirdd> oh shit [08:21] <Zephirdd> gotta sleep [08:21] <Zephirdd> gj on voting on kenpachi btw [08:21] <Zephirdd> XD 01[08:21] <Vertual_Cheese> i dont think hes dead [08:21] <Zephirdd> he is 01[08:21] <Vertual_Cheese> you might want to whitewash me [08:21] <Zephirdd> you were the 14th vote 01[08:21] <Vertual_Cheese> well see [08:22] <Zephirdd> oh yeah that too 01[08:22] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah but the self vote shouldnt have counted 01[08:22] <Vertual_Cheese> apparently [08:22] <Zephirdd> I'm off the radar atm [08:22] <Zephirdd> the self vote was the 14th [08:22] <Zephirdd> bumatlarge, DCLXVI, prplhz, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Palmar, GreYMisT, risk.nuke, Tyrran, Lemonwalrus, Hiroruby, sinani206, Nisani201, Cyber_Cheese [08:22] <Zephirdd> voters [08:23] <Zephirdd> for some reason [08:23] <Zephirdd> I think that chaoser/kenpachi/lanaia [08:23] <Zephirdd> are masons 01[08:24] <Vertual_Cheese> self vote wasnt supposed to count [08:24] <Zephirdd> just a feeling 01[08:24] <Vertual_Cheese> hmmm i doubt it 01[08:24] <Vertual_Cheese> esp since lanaia has an ability [08:24] <Zephirdd> count it [08:24] <Zephirdd> its 14 [08:24] <Zephirdd> lanaia removed the anti-vote [08:25] <Zephirdd> interesting, kenpachi can still vote [08:37] <Zephirdd> well, I'll send your whitewash 01[08:38] <Vertual_Cheese> wait 01[08:38] <Vertual_Cheese> for night time [08:38] <Zephirdd> derp [08:38] <Zephirdd> yeah [08:38] <Zephirdd> lol 01[08:38] <Vertual_Cheese> it feels like days over because someones dead 01[08:38] <Vertual_Cheese> lol [08:39] <Zephirdd> rofl yeah [08:39] <Zephirdd> XD [08:39] <Zephirdd> well [08:39] <Zephirdd> I'm out [08:39] <Zephirdd> got a huge algorithms test tomorrow [08:39] <Zephirdd> cya 01[08:39] <Vertual_Cheese> cya 02[08:39] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) 01[08:39] <Vertual_Cheese> chaoser thinks im town lololloolololol 03[21:22] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 03[23:07] * Zephirdd_ (~Zephirdd@187.112.87.3) has joined #mudkips 02[23:10] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.36.110.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[23:11] * Zephirdd_ is now known as Zephirdd 03[23:19] * Zephirdd_ (~Zephirdd@189.58.33.175.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 02[23:19] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@187.112.87.3) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[23:20] * Zephirdd_ is now known as Zephirdd [23:46] <Zephirdd> chaoser went ragemode lol Session Time: Fri Nov 18 00:00:00 2011 01[00:44] <Vertual_Cheese> sup 01[00:44] <Vertual_Cheese> lololol chaoser rage mode 01[00:44] <Vertual_Cheese> kenpachi had it coming 01[00:44] <Vertual_Cheese> dumbass [00:49] <Zephirdd> haha [00:49] <Zephirdd> This is going to be awesome [00:49] <Zephirdd> so, if we can get chaoser by today [00:50] <Zephirdd> that'd be three free kills [00:50] <Zephirdd> +2 from our KP [00:50] <Zephirdd> which means we'd be down to 20 players by day 2, 5 being mafia [00:50] <Zephirdd> maybe 19 if some town vigi-kills someone 01[00:52] <Vertual_Cheese> thats if we can get chaoser killed 01[00:53] <Vertual_Cheese> hopefully we can but dont bet on it yet [00:53] <Zephirdd> I don't know if we will, but gotta wait 'till 12am [00:53] <Zephirdd> (12am for me at least) 01[00:53] <Vertual_Cheese> 10am here 01[00:53] <Vertual_Cheese> im likely to sleep and miss it [00:53] <Zephirdd> ;x 01[00:57] <Vertual_Cheese> now heres the thing 01[00:58] <Vertual_Cheese> do i unvote sinani because chaoser and i have him in common 01[00:58] <Vertual_Cheese> and say if chaosers happy to vote him its probably not a good idea [01:04] <Zephirdd> hmm [01:04] <Zephirdd> you should probably aim to make a relation [01:05] <Zephirdd> if you can give logic behind sinani's and chaoser's vote, its fine [01:05] <Zephirdd> you know, things aren't exactly black-and-white, esp. now atm [01:05] <Zephirdd> not atm* [01:08] <Zephirdd> from Tyrren's wall of text [01:08] <Zephirdd> Likely Town : Lanaia, LemonWalrus, GreyMisT, Zephirrd [01:08] <Zephirdd> fuck yeah two mafia are likely town [01:08] <Zephirdd> lol! [01:12] <Zephirdd> also [01:12] <Zephirdd> Drazerk is Lynchproof 01[01:29] <Vertual_Cheese> he says hes lynchproof 01[01:29] <Vertual_Cheese> that doesnt mean hes telling the truth [01:29] <Zephirdd> hmm yeah [01:29] <Zephirdd> but why would he risk that? 01[01:29] <Vertual_Cheese> died in skyrim agian FFFFF 01[01:30] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm as a townie im not sure 01[01:30] <Vertual_Cheese> he might be third party [01:30] <Zephirdd> I mean, people could just go "stop with this BS we are lynching you for being a retard" [01:30] <Zephirdd> and suddenly they lost another member OR he is lynchproof and everyone respects him as a blue [01:30] <Zephirdd> its like he is trying to show he is a blue by getting lynched 01[01:31] <Vertual_Cheese> that is actually probably 01[01:32] <Vertual_Cheese> hes more likely to be a veteran imo 01[01:32] <Vertual_Cheese> eg has two lives 01[01:32] <Vertual_Cheese> wait 01[01:32] <Vertual_Cheese> is it in this setup? 01[01:32] <Vertual_Cheese> im thinking of bulletproof 01[01:38] <Vertual_Cheese> so, do we take the opportunity to lynch Drazerk? [01:39] <Zephirdd> well [01:39] <Zephirdd> if we lynch him [01:39] <Zephirdd> he is most likely going to survive [01:39] <Zephirdd> because he is lynchproof [01:39] <Zephirdd> or at least he is claiming that [01:40] <Zephirdd> hmmm [01:40] <Zephirdd> we should take a look at his filters [01:40] <Zephirdd> he seems to have been breadcrumbing [01:41] <Zephirdd> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=25#481 [01:41] <Zephirdd> this one in particular is rather weird [01:43] <Zephirdd> he has a history of lies tho 01[01:43] <Vertual_Cheese> Ace is a player who is renowned on this forum for being the best player in history [01:43] <Zephirdd> he even claims that from older games [01:43] <Zephirdd> :O 01[01:43] <Vertual_Cheese> ive never seen it personally [01:43] <Zephirdd> I thought "Ace" was just an expression 01[01:43] <Vertual_Cheese> i use best player in history loosely [01:43] <Zephirdd> because... hell it is 01[01:44] <Vertual_Cheese> basically hes Ace 01[01:44] <Vertual_Cheese> again, thats only the reputation i keep hearing, its probably vastly overstated [01:45] <Zephirdd> heh [01:45] <Zephirdd> also 01[01:45] <Vertual_Cheese> there was a personality mafia game where the roles were based on regulars personalities [01:45] <Zephirdd> he tells chaoser "you've seen my meta right?" 01[01:46] <Vertual_Cheese> the ace role derived from that is a vigilante who has to prove the target is lying 01[01:46] <Vertual_Cheese> i doubt that would exsist in a bot hosted game 01[01:46] <Vertual_Cheese> rofl his meta 01[01:46] <Vertual_Cheese> im thinking hes third party at this point [01:47] <Zephirdd> but... is there really third party in this game? [01:47] <Zephirdd> then we'll have to worry about blues, greens AND greys?! 01[01:47] <Vertual_Cheese> lol 01[01:48] <Vertual_Cheese> well 01[01:48] <Vertual_Cheese> its a possiblity [01:48] <Zephirdd> "Well I am pro claiming so yeah I was probably going to vote for you anyway " for Kenpachi [01:48] <Zephirdd> wat 01[01:49] <Vertual_Cheese> i doubt hes a village idiot, everybody hates them around here 01[01:49] <Vertual_Cheese> he might be a survivor of some kind? [01:49] <Zephirdd> village idiot = ? 01[01:49] <Vertual_Cheese> jester 01[01:49] <Vertual_Cheese> fool 01[01:49] <Vertual_Cheese> wins if lynched [01:49] <Zephirdd> oh [01:49] <Zephirdd> yah 01[01:50] <Vertual_Cheese> pretty bad role if your not the one playing it imo [01:50] <Zephirdd> seems like [01:50] <Zephirdd> basically [01:50] <Zephirdd> its a Troll [01:50] <Zephirdd> lol [01:50] <Zephirdd> but he is going full retard at this point [01:51] <Zephirdd> if he wanted to be lynched, he'd act as a townie that looks scummy [01:51] <Zephirdd> and contradict himself somewhere [01:51] <Zephirdd> at least that would be the easiest way 01[01:51] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah i dont think he thought that far ahead [01:52] <Zephirdd> thing is, I really dont think he is 3rd party 01[01:52] <Vertual_Cheese> either way just because he survives doesnt mean hes town aligned [01:52] <Zephirdd> well, at least not a jester 01[01:52] <Vertual_Cheese> i dunno, the use of that much meta? 01[01:53] <Vertual_Cheese> hes not a jester, i was crossing that off [01:53] <Zephirdd> if you think about it [01:53] <Zephirdd> he did that on previous games as well [01:53] <Zephirdd> he even tells that [01:53] <Zephirdd> going idiot mode 01[01:53] <Vertual_Cheese> maybe the metas actually accurate 01[01:53] <Vertual_Cheese> maybe hes using it as cover to hide as something else and act within his meta 01[01:53] <Vertual_Cheese> since its a very scum favourable one [01:54] <Zephirdd> Well [01:54] <Zephirdd> surely it isn't creating a town enviroment [01:54] <Zephirdd> oh [01:54] <Zephirdd> nvm [01:54] <Zephirdd> from the OP [01:54] <Zephirdd> There are no third parties. There are no players with alternate win conditions. There are no post restrictions other than the publicly stated rules of the game which apply to everyone. [01:55] <Zephirdd> he IS blue 01[01:55] <Vertual_Cheese> oh 01[01:55] <Vertual_Cheese> first place i should have looked [01:55] <Zephirdd> haha [01:57] <Zephirdd> the vote updates at regular intervals [01:57] <Zephirdd> lol 01[01:57] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah 01[01:57] <Vertual_Cheese> the host said something about 5 minutes 01[01:58] <Vertual_Cheese> so imma just put that there and see if it was intended/what he says [01:58] <Zephirdd> he also said later that his bot seems to be a bit fucked up [01:59] <Zephirdd> I love how coag is suddenly green in the eyes of WBG [01:59] <Zephirdd> and WBG points is out beautifully 01[01:59] <Vertual_Cheese> its awesome 01[01:59] <Vertual_Cheese> i dont understand why people are mentally linking kenpachi and chaoser [02:00] <Zephirdd> I am implying it 01[02:00] <Vertual_Cheese> even if kenpachi is town, scum try to attach themselves to townies all the time 01[02:00] <Vertual_Cheese> how does implying it get chaoser killed? [02:01] <Zephirdd> well, I'm just following a townie train of thought for now. Kenpachi and chaoser had a little chat after he got lynched; like if they were sure one or another were town [02:01] <Zephirdd> at least Kenpachi believed that chaoser is town 01[02:02] <Vertual_Cheese> if kenpachi was scum he wouldnt have linked himself [02:02] <Zephirdd> and that's exactly what I posted 01[02:02] <Vertual_Cheese> usually [02:02] <Zephirdd> well, you also said it [02:02] <Zephirdd> scum try to attach themselves to townies [02:02] <Zephirdd> we know that ken isnt town [02:02] <Zephirdd> I mean [02:02] <Zephirdd> isnt mafia 01[02:02] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah [02:03] <Zephirdd> when he flips, he could be one of these 'attachments' 01[02:03] <Vertual_Cheese> genious 01[02:03] <Vertual_Cheese> shame it doesnt get him killed day 1 but yeah [02:03] <Zephirdd> I intend to place a vote on whoever has most votes by the end of the day anyway 01[02:03] <Vertual_Cheese> i want to try and make sure the dt check(s) hit me 01[02:04] <Vertual_Cheese> need to do something outrageous at this rate [02:04] <Zephirdd> hmm [02:04] <Zephirdd> dont do it tooo soon [02:04] <Zephirdd> make it close to the night [02:04] <Zephirdd> it reduces chance of lynching + makes people most likely to focus one of the last posters 01[02:04] <Vertual_Cheese> true 01[02:10] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm 01[02:10] <Vertual_Cheese> that big mafia game 01[02:10] <Vertual_Cheese> the one being advertised in the sports and games forum [02:10] <Zephirdd> hang on 01[02:10] <Vertual_Cheese> so tempted to join [02:10] <Zephirdd> something is weird about Dazerk's votes 01[02:10] <Vertual_Cheese> no explainations? [02:12] <Zephirdd> he has 8 votes [02:12] <Zephirdd> but only 6 show up 01[02:12] <Vertual_Cheese> thats odd 01[02:12] <Vertual_Cheese> he should have 4? [02:13] <Zephirdd> nvm [02:13] <Zephirdd> its yours and WBG votes that arent showing up 01[02:13] <Vertual_Cheese> wait [02:13] <Zephirdd> I assume the bot just didnt update from you onwards 01[02:13] <Vertual_Cheese> maybe coag used his ability? [02:13] <Zephirdd> nono 01[02:13] <Vertual_Cheese> oh wait i get what you mean now [02:14] <Zephirdd> WBG's votes weren't updated [02:14] <Zephirdd> I assume the bot just stopped working for whatever reason 01[02:15] <Vertual_Cheese> opinion: new tl shirts 01[02:16] <Vertual_Cheese> in terms of logo T>P>Z, but with the choice of backgrounds they more or less even out [02:22] <Zephirdd> Z>P>T imo [02:22] <Zephirdd> got a Z shirt [02:22] <Zephirdd> [02:22] <Zephirdd> should arrive hopefully by january [02:22] <Zephirdd> I hope it arrives by IEM Sao Paulo [02:23] <Zephirdd> I want to go there with TL shirts [02:23] <Zephirdd> :D 01[02:23] <Vertual_Cheese> that would be awesome 01[02:23] <Vertual_Cheese> you gotta make a blog with pics of the shirt if you get it in time and go 01[02:23] <Vertual_Cheese> shirt on you at the event* i should specifiy [02:24] <Zephirdd> yup [02:24] <Zephirdd> XD [02:24] <Zephirdd> I also didnt realize I could get a poster [02:24] <Zephirdd> but fuuuuuuuuck 12 dollars, thats more than half a shirt [02:24] <Zephirdd> + shipping is ultra expensive for BR o_o 01[02:25] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah shipping is insane for some reason [02:26] <Zephirdd> I assume that's paypal fault, + TL probably uses a very good shipping company 01[02:26] <Vertual_Cheese> it costs me a shirt just to get them out here [02:26] <Zephirdd> in order to guarantee the delivery [02:26] <Zephirdd> >< 01[02:27] <Vertual_Cheese> i wish i had somewhere in my room to place posters 01[02:35] <Vertual_Cheese> any idea how big the poster is? 01[02:35] <Vertual_Cheese> ive been looking for it but... [02:35] <Zephirdd> nope [02:35] <Zephirdd> .-. [02:35] <Zephirdd> for 12 dollars [02:35] <Zephirdd> it better be hella big [02:36] <Zephirdd> lol 01[02:40] <Vertual_Cheese> it probably is [02:42] <Zephirdd> Lol I'm dangerously close to 2000 posts [02:42] <Zephirdd> I need to think about it [02:42] <Zephirdd> to post something cool [02:42] <Zephirdd> :O 01[02:48] <Vertual_Cheese> rofl 01[02:48] <Vertual_Cheese> do what ... was it doch or kita... did 01[02:48] <Vertual_Cheese> ill find it brb 01[02:48] <Vertual_Cheese> wait 01[02:48] <Vertual_Cheese> that wont work 01[02:48] <Vertual_Cheese> but ill find it anyway it was cool 01[02:50] <Vertual_Cheese> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207074 01[02:50] <Vertual_Cheese> theres a part 2 for his 2k linked somewhere [03:03] <Zephirdd> lol it was nice [03:03] <Zephirdd> =p 01[03:16] <Vertual_Cheese> tried to kick some discussion up 01[03:16] <Vertual_Cheese> hopefully it works 01[03:16] <Vertual_Cheese> can't have town stuck in a rut now can we [03:19] <Zephirdd> it's good to provide discussion topics imo 01[03:19] <Vertual_Cheese> if i was a townie [03:19] <Zephirdd> but at this point, town is literally killing itself 01[03:19] <Vertual_Cheese> any competant mafia would kill me [03:19] <Zephirdd> i c 01[03:20] <Vertual_Cheese> im taking the chance to lead town around at any rate if i can 01[03:20] <Vertual_Cheese> it might end up in us getting chaoser yet [03:21] <Zephirdd> check QT [03:21] <Zephirdd> coag posted his PM 01[03:21] <Vertual_Cheese> magician what 01[03:21] <Vertual_Cheese> reading 03[03:33] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [03:34] <Zephirdd> heyo [03:34] <Zephirdd> anyone agrees that mafia is OP? [03:34] <Zephirdd> lol! [03:34] <Zephirdd> although town did have a watcher/green doc in form of Kenpachi 01[03:34] <Vertual_Cheese> we dont know what town has so 01[03:34] <Vertual_Cheese> theyr likely to be strong too [03:35] <GreYMisT> Yea, i suspect they have a shit ton of blues [03:35] <Zephirdd> I suspect that there are like three greens top [03:35] <GreYMisT> especially because I can't target vanilla town with my ability [03:35] <Zephirdd> I like how your ability is a reverse Kenpachi lol [03:35] <Zephirdd> you cant target what Kenpachi could target [03:36] <GreYMisT> coag's ability is going to be hilarious [03:36] <GreYMisT> with the 2 votes [03:36] <GreYMisT> haha [03:36] <Zephirdd> how to balance the most OP ability? [03:36] <Zephirdd> give it a delay! [03:36] <Zephirdd> lol! 01[03:37] <Vertual_Cheese> it cant be used last minute 01[03:37] <Vertual_Cheese> ideally we can promote an atmosphere where that isnt last minute [03:37] <Zephirdd> ideally we want to use it exactly 4 hours before the day ends [03:38] <Zephirdd> or use it to deceive people earlier on the day 03[03:38] * GreYMisT__ (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [03:38] <GreYMisT__> my thing freaked oput [03:38] <Zephirdd> look, a dupe [03:38] <Zephirdd> hi dupe 01[03:38] <Vertual_Cheese> mass greymists, CHARGE! [03:38] <GreYMisT__> its my new strat [03:38] <Zephirdd> op, bliz shuld nerf [03:38] <GreYMisT__> but yea, i think coag should only use 1 of the votes for now [03:38] <GreYMisT__> so that the town doesnt know how many we have 01[03:39] <Vertual_Cheese> he shouldnt use it day 1 01[03:39] <Vertual_Cheese> surprise them day 2, and then again day 3 [03:39] <Zephirdd> the town won't know its mafia either [03:39] <Zephirdd> I mean, how could they? At best its a 4chan vote 01[03:39] <Vertual_Cheese> theyll guess because of lanaia [03:39] <Zephirdd> oh [03:40] <Zephirdd> that [03:40] <Zephirdd> but in a sense, that was an anti-vote right 01[03:40] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah 01[03:40] <Vertual_Cheese> she might have more than one of those [03:40] <Zephirdd> oh, that too [03:40] <Zephirdd> I wonder if it has a delay as well 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> wow just noticed the tl homepage with the terran horse [03:41] <GreYMisT__> haha yea 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> that looks so much more boss than the other two [03:41] <Zephirdd> lol [03:41] <GreYMisT__> the 3 new logos [03:41] <Zephirdd> they've been rotating all day long 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> T>P>Z in logo alone 01[03:41] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah only seen Z and P up there so far [03:42] <Zephirdd> Nazgul said it would rotate for a couple days before going back to the original horse 01[03:42] <Vertual_Cheese> only noticed* 01[03:42] <Vertual_Cheese> thats pretty cool 02[03:42] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) [03:43] <Zephirdd> -> "What I'm saying is that making those early posts is very easy to do as mafia, and can get you some effortless town cred. then he dissapeared once we started discussing stuff. This is why he is different from the other lurkers." [03:43] <Zephirdd> I KNOW RIGHT? [03:43] <GreYMisT__> this is why im going to kill lanaia tonight, so she cant stop coags ability [03:43] <Zephirdd> haha [03:44] <GreYMisT__> you like that? [03:44] <Zephirdd> I just find it ironic [03:44] <Zephirdd> that out of everyone, a mafia is the one posting that [03:44] <Zephirdd> xD [03:44] <GreYMisT__> haha indeed [03:44] <GreYMisT__> you see eveyone has their strengths in this game, and as mafia 01[03:44] <Vertual_Cheese> i gotta find a way to reply that makes hiro look like a bad lynch [03:45] <GreYMisT__> some mafia are good at being agressive and dominating [03:45] <GreYMisT__> some are good with chaos 01[03:45] <Vertual_Cheese> because it makes chaoser look worse for choosing a scapegoat [03:45] <GreYMisT__> Im good at forcing people to believe im town [03:45] <GreYMisT__> who would you lynch instead? 01[03:45] <Vertual_Cheese> chaoser [03:45] <GreYMisT__> or force it onto i mean [03:45] <GreYMisT__> oh ok [03:45] <GreYMisT__> one sec 01[03:46] <Vertual_Cheese> get greedy, kill two pros 01[03:46] <Vertual_Cheese> dont post any more in the thread till i reply imo 01[03:46] <Vertual_Cheese> although, if hiro flips, chaoser looks bad 01[03:47] <Vertual_Cheese> man nasl is hard to watch compared to gsl [03:47] <GreYMisT__> point out some others like him, and then say something like "he just choose one of the many scapegoats" [03:47] <GreYMisT__> like LSB or something [03:47] <GreYMisT__> idk [03:47] <Zephirdd> nasl has repeated maps every day >.> [03:47] <GreYMisT__> or like why choose hiroruby when all these others are just like him 01[03:47] <Vertual_Cheese> randomly bad players and gretorp/whoever as casters FFFFUUUUU 01[03:47] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm genious 01[03:48] <Vertual_Cheese> ill go lurker searching now [03:48] <GreYMisT__> Once you post those, ill basically still say im null on chaoser [03:48] <GreYMisT__> or hold off for a bit to see what is going to happen 01[03:48] <Vertual_Cheese> fair enough [03:48] <GreYMisT__> basically I want to go today without voting for chaoser myself 01[03:49] <Vertual_Cheese> we dont want all the mafia on one bandwagon in case they have a listcheck [03:49] <GreYMisT__> I'm already on some people's town lists, I want to stay that way [03:49] <GreYMisT__> right, dont want that anyway [03:49] <GreYMisT__> we want to not be connected, but not look like we are trying to not be connected 01[03:49] <Vertual_Cheese> oh and chaoser willflip town [03:49] <GreYMisT__> yea, considering he isnt on our team [03:50] <GreYMisT__> Ok so we will get a total of 2 maybe 3 lynched today [03:50] <GreYMisT__> meaning I will have at least 4 shots [03:51] <GreYMisT__> sry we total [03:51] <GreYMisT__> will have 4 shots [03:51] <Zephirdd> woah thats right [03:51] <Zephirdd> I forgot that lynching = shots for you [03:51] <GreYMisT__> yep [03:51] <GreYMisT__> dont try to get them to lynch more though [03:51] <Zephirdd> IF we get a 2nd lynch [03:51] <GreYMisT__> we will [03:51] <Zephirdd> try to go for Drazerk [03:52] <Zephirdd> this lynchproof claiming stuff is very weird [03:52] <GreYMisT__> he is claiming lynchproof? [03:52] <GreYMisT__> did i miss that? [03:52] <Zephirdd> implicitly [03:52] <GreYMisT__> can you link me to the post? [03:52] <Zephirdd> he goes "even if you want, I can't be lynched" [03:52] <GreYMisT__> alright, I'll shoot him and lanaia [03:52] <Zephirdd> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=45#899 [03:53] <GreYMisT__> yea [03:53] <GreYMisT__> well we will at least see [03:55] <GreYMisT__> I think the other shots need to go on Palmar/Chaoser and LSB [03:55] <GreYMisT__> maybe you whitewash cyber tonight [03:56] <GreYMisT__> and cyber track bumatlarge [03:56] <Zephirdd> I was thinking of tracking HarbingerOfDoom tho [03:57] <GreYMisT__> think he is blue? [03:57] <Zephirdd> his first post [03:57] <Zephirdd> where he assumes roles are combined [03:57] <Zephirdd> well, in a sense actually, that was included in the OP [03:58] <Zephirdd> both are candidates, we don't really have a big target for blue at this point [03:59] <GreYMisT__> yea i would track HoD 01[04:00] <Vertual_Cheese> alright QT 01[04:00] <Vertual_Cheese> how do i add t that 01[04:00] <Vertual_Cheese> to that* [04:01] <GreYMisT__> its in the wrong order, let me reword it and see how you like it 01[04:01] <Vertual_Cheese> awesome 01[04:01] <Vertual_Cheese> you sir, are an hero 01[04:02] <Vertual_Cheese> hod is likely blue, his first few posts seem to hint at it 01[04:02] <Vertual_Cheese> hes got a role which is two or more of the categories in the OP [04:03] <GreYMisT__> check that [04:04] <GreYMisT__> alright lets do this then. I shoot who i said I would, the other shot goes onto HoD and one of palmar/WBG/Chaoser (give me a sec to figure out which) and you track someone else 01[04:04] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm ill change the chaoser mentioning that [04:04] <GreYMisT__> kk 01[04:04] <Vertual_Cheese> but yeah awesome [04:04] <Zephirdd> wait [04:04] <Zephirdd> how will you shot HoD? [04:04] <GreYMisT__> with scum kp [04:04] <Zephirdd> oh derp [04:05] <GreYMisT__> alright, if we can ensure that chaoser and one of palmar/WBG stays alive on day2, i think that will be optimal [04:06] <GreYMisT__> of course killing chaoser today would be cool [04:06] <GreYMisT__> but if we cant i think thats a good solution 01[04:06] <Vertual_Cheese> aresresh qt 01[04:06] <Vertual_Cheese> that cool? 01[04:06] <Vertual_Cheese> refresh** [04:07] <GreYMisT__> ah ok so you are going to put a bit of pressure on me with it 01[04:07] <Vertual_Cheese> Hmm 01[04:07] <Vertual_Cheese> it might be out of character if i didnt [04:07] <GreYMisT__> no its fine 01[04:07] <Vertual_Cheese> [04:07] <GreYMisT__> one sec [04:08] <GreYMisT__> let me think how to respond, i thnik ive got it 01[04:08] <Vertual_Cheese> hmm [04:08] <GreYMisT__> ok go 01[04:08] <Vertual_Cheese> i can take the pressure off if it doesnt advance the way we want it to [04:08] <GreYMisT__> no the pressure is good 01[04:09] <Vertual_Cheese> k i trust [04:09] <GreYMisT__> im going to wait a few minutes to repsond, then say i have to go [04:09] <GreYMisT__> which i do, bio paper 01[04:09] <Vertual_Cheese> yeah 01[04:09] <Vertual_Cheese> oh cool [04:09] <GreYMisT__> im going to ask was that directed at me in about 2 minutes [04:10] <GreYMisT__> just so you know when to check 01[04:10] <Vertual_Cheese> nah i fixed it up 01[04:10] <Vertual_Cheese> forgetting to quote fail 01[04:11] <Vertual_Cheese> ive made so many small mistakes like that so far :/ 01[04:11] <Vertual_Cheese> assumed noone would say anything because that was the theme so far [04:16] <GreYMisT__> and there we go [04:17] <GreYMisT__> I really don't want to write this paper, but sadly it must be done. i will see you guys when i take a break [04:18] <GreYMisT__> peace! 02[04:18] * GreYMisT__ (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 01[04:31] <Vertual_Cheese> well im going to sleep on that and hope some good lynches come out of it [04:31] <Zephirdd> cya 01[04:31] <Vertual_Cheese> cya Session Close: Fri Nov 18 04:52:26 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 04:52:26 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[04:52] * Disconnected 02[04:53] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[04:53] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[04:55] * Vertual_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-177-55.wa.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[05:25] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [05:25] <GreYMisT> sup, im on break [05:25] <GreYMisT> haha [05:25] <GreYMisT> what is going on zephirdd and Cyber_Cheese [05:25] <Zephirdd> not much [05:26] <Zephirdd> kinda lost myself on the topic infact [05:26] <Zephirdd> lol [05:26] <Zephirdd> I love how I have this "under the radar" thing [05:26] <Zephirdd> where people just ignore me most of the time [05:26] <GreYMisT> give it time, someone will notice it [05:26] <GreYMisT> haha [05:26] <Zephirdd> or don't take me as an individual [05:27] <GreYMisT> do you have any questions with regard towards what you should be doing btw? [05:27] <GreYMisT> or what you can do [05:27] <GreYMisT> I'm always here to help [05:27] <Zephirdd> Hmm, I stated I'd be defensive for now [05:27] <GreYMisT> by that you mean? [05:27] <Zephirdd> I wanted to give a last-minute vote for someone nearly lynched [05:28] <Zephirdd> I backed off my votes on chaoser and Lanaia [05:28] <Zephirdd> saying that we should slow down [05:28] <Zephirdd> I gave some bs argument about that's Kenpachi reasoning and that it would be the safe play [05:28] <Zephirdd> or something like that [05:29] <Zephirdd> either way, I intend to give a last min vote [05:29] <GreYMisT> alrighty [05:30] <GreYMisT> your best option in this game looking to how you have played thus far is to play the "helpful newbie" role [05:30] <Zephirdd> yup [05:30] <GreYMisT> the trick is making it appear pro town [05:30] <Zephirdd> in fact, what I'm doing is "what would townie Zeph do?" [05:31] <GreYMisT> yea thats pretty much it [05:31] <Zephirdd> except for the last min vote part [05:31] <Zephirdd> that's my mafia side [05:31] <Zephirdd> XD [05:31] <GreYMisT> haha [05:31] <GreYMisT> you probally dont have to actually do that [05:31] <GreYMisT> if all goes well we just get people to do it for us [05:31] <GreYMisT> plus a no lynch is better for us [05:31] <GreYMisT> its pretty equal to actually lynching a townie [05:32] <Zephirdd> hence the last min [05:32] <Zephirdd> if it isn't going to give us a lynch [05:32] <Zephirdd> I won't even bother [05:32] <GreYMisT> yea [05:32] <GreYMisT> you want to be voting for people during the day though, or at least try to get things done [05:33] <Zephirdd> Well, I already stated I'll be sorta inactive day 2 and I'll reiterate that [05:33] <Zephirdd> because I actually will [05:33] <Zephirdd> (MLG) [05:33] <GreYMisT> basically the key is you want to have a mind of your own, and be assertive [05:33] <Zephirdd> okidoki [05:33] <Zephirdd> ^^ [05:34] <GreYMisT> like you shouldnt be too concerned at the moment with pushing chaos or seeding doubt, your current situation is geared towards simply flying under the radar [05:35] <GreYMisT> did you say you read Ace's Mafia Manifesto? [05:37] <Zephirdd> nope .-. [05:37] <GreYMisT> let me link you some stuff then [05:37] <GreYMisT> :D [05:38] <GreYMisT> here is my post game scum analysis of the newbie mini mafia game where i was the mafia coach [05:38] <GreYMisT> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278558¤tpage=42#834 [05:38] <GreYMisT> read it and the post below by GM [05:38] <GreYMisT> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=132936 [05:38] <GreYMisT> This is Ace's scum guide [05:45] <GreYMisT> Hope some of that helps [06:07] <GreYMisT> anyways im going to jump off irc [06:07] <GreYMisT> PM me or ask in the QT if you have any questions 02[06:13] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[08:14] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [08:14] <GreYMisT> gettting close to the lynch [08:14] <GreYMisT> i think we can get sinani lynched [08:14] <Zephirdd> hm.. [08:15] <Zephirdd> dunno, wouldnt it be better if he lived for longer? [08:15] <GreYMisT> eh [08:15] <GreYMisT> no one listens to him anwya [08:15] <Zephirdd> exactly [08:15] <GreYMisT> so he cant really cause chaos [08:15] <Zephirdd> lol [08:15] <Zephirdd> ah I see [08:15] <Zephirdd> well [08:15] <Zephirdd> It gives you KP [08:15] <GreYMisT> you want people alive who people listen to, but are just dead wrong [08:15] <Zephirdd> *ahem Palmar* [08:16] <GreYMisT> and yea, at this point will act as ammo so i can try and go for both drazerk and lanaia [08:16] <Zephirdd> yeah [08:16] <Zephirdd> gimme some reasoning for a last min vote [08:16] <Zephirdd> xP [08:16] <Zephirdd> I'm going to sleep after that [08:16] <GreYMisT> voting for sinani? [08:17] <Zephirdd> yeah, pushing his lynch a bit [08:17] <Zephirdd> will make people vote on him [08:18] <Zephirdd> well, lets just look at his filter [08:18] <Zephirdd> wont be hard to find [08:18] <GreYMisT> say something like "looking over everything, I think sinani is our best bet if we want to go for a second lynch." then say something like "he is being extrememly unhelpful, and difficult the second pressure was put onto him, a townie would have at least tried to prove his innocence" [08:18] <GreYMisT> not in those exact words, but you get the meaning [08:23] <Zephirdd> wait [08:23] <Zephirdd> sinani206 and nisani201 [08:23] <Zephirdd> are they related? [08:23] <Zephirdd> >_> [08:23] <GreYMisT> friends [08:23] <Zephirdd> k [08:23] <Zephirdd> 01[08:23] <Cyber_Cheese> father and son? [08:23] <GreYMisT> haha [08:24] <GreYMisT> i dont know what to make of this post nisani wrote saying he doesnt think sinani is scummy [08:24] <GreYMisT> i might just let other people eat him out over it 01[08:24] <Cyber_Cheese> how do i teach a dog how not to bark [08:24] <GreYMisT> good luck 01[08:25] <Cyber_Cheese> nisani is a second sinani 01[08:25] <Cyber_Cheese> except about 20% cooler 01[08:25] <Cyber_Cheese> i mean, 20% more useful [08:25] <Zephirdd> > Cheese is brony [08:25] <Zephirdd> lulz [08:25] <Zephirdd> *brohoof* 01[08:26] <Cyber_Cheese> ive watched season one 01[08:26] <Cyber_Cheese> *brohoof* [08:26] <Zephirdd> xD 01[08:26] <Cyber_Cheese> i watch things by season, i have a friend who is hardcore into it that links me the most interesting pony works [08:27] <Zephirdd> a friend as in GMarshal? 01[08:27] <Cyber_Cheese> like rainbow factory, cupcakes, all your netz are pony, that sorta thing 01[08:27] <Cyber_Cheese> nah real life one lol [08:27] <Zephirdd> oh [08:27] <Zephirdd> GMarshal is the pioneer brony from TL 01[08:28] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah i know [08:28] <Zephirdd> and is a mafia player [08:28] <Zephirdd> so I assumed [08:28] <Zephirdd> xD 01[08:28] <Cyber_Cheese> ive looked at the thread occasionally just because its there 01[08:28] <Cyber_Cheese> i think ive posted too, but nothing that would get me onto the list 01[08:28] <Cyber_Cheese> nothing negative either but yeah 01[08:30] <Cyber_Cheese> have you read fallout equestria? 01[08:30] <Cyber_Cheese> he tells me its great, but its like 40 something chapters 01[08:30] <Cyber_Cheese> because honestly we dont really need to talk about the impending lynch while town implodes [08:31] <GreYMisT> i want sinani dead... [08:31] <GreYMisT> cause i want 2 shots 01[08:31] <Cyber_Cheese> we just have to be careful they dont manage to sort it out [08:31] <Zephirdd> nope I havent [08:31] <Zephirdd> also, check QT 01[08:31] <Cyber_Cheese> my votes on sinani already [08:31] <Zephirdd> (posted) [08:31] <Zephirdd> you see, FO:E is fucking huge 01[08:31] <Cyber_Cheese> drop the welp imo [08:31] <Zephirdd> no way I'd read that [08:32] <Zephirdd> Past Sins is the longest fic I've read [08:32] <Zephirdd> k. [08:32] <GreYMisT> indicate the reason you perfer sinani over drazek 01[08:32] <Cyber_Cheese> past sins? 01[08:32] <Cyber_Cheese> never heard of it 01[08:32] <Cyber_Cheese> do we want to link it to kenpachi at this point? 01[08:32] <Cyber_Cheese> town seems to be against that lynch now its happened [08:32] <GreYMisT> link what? [08:33] <Zephirdd> I already voted drazerk [08:33] <GreYMisT> oh ok 01[08:33] <Cyber_Cheese> 'he is doing it like kenpachi' [08:33] <Zephirdd> oh [08:33] <Zephirdd> hmm good point 01[08:33] <Cyber_Cheese> state the charge but drop the commonality [08:34] <Zephirdd> k [08:34] <Zephirdd> I also added a note that I'll be semi-inactive/inactive for day 2 [08:34] <Zephirdd> because MLG [08:35] <Zephirdd> k, I'll post it 01[08:35] <Cyber_Cheese> qt or thread? [08:35] <Zephirdd> wat is ASOIAF? [08:35] <Zephirdd> thread 03[08:35] * Retrieving #mudkips modes... [08:35] <Zephirdd> its fine this way 01[08:35] <Cyber_Cheese> a song of ice and fire [08:36] <GreYMisT> a song of ice and fire 01[08:36] <Cyber_Cheese> aka winter is coming 01[08:36] <Cyber_Cheese> wait no thats not the name 01[08:37] <Cyber_Cheese> \troll [08:37] <Zephirdd> winter is coming is GoT right? [08:37] <Zephirdd> >_> 01[08:37] <Cyber_Cheese> GoT is ASOIAF 01[08:37] <Cyber_Cheese> or based off ASOIAF books anyway [08:37] <Zephirdd> ho [08:37] <Zephirdd> had no idea [08:37] <Zephirdd> [08:37] <Zephirdd> I havent seen GoT either 01[08:38] <Cyber_Cheese> its worth watching [08:38] <Zephirdd> >watches ponies, doesnt watches GoT [08:38] <Zephirdd> well, I'm out 03[08:38] * GreYMisT_ (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [08:38] <Zephirdd> gotta sleep 01[08:38] <Cyber_Cheese> dont get your hopes too high [08:38] <Zephirdd> tomorrow is a big day 01[08:38] <Cyber_Cheese> but watch it [08:38] <GreYMisT_> alright! i have a plan [08:38] <Zephirdd> :O [08:38] <GreYMisT_> for the night kills [08:38] <GreYMisT_> i do what i said i was going to do with my 2 shots [08:38] <Zephirdd> Wait [08:38] <Zephirdd> what do I do? [08:38] <GreYMisT_> whitewash cheese i think? 01[08:38] <Cyber_Cheese> we should vig coag 01[08:39] <Cyber_Cheese> hes very scummy [08:39] <GreYMisT_> lol [08:39] <Zephirdd> lol 01[08:39] <Cyber_Cheese> such a trolling mood atm 01[08:39] <Cyber_Cheese> seriously 01[08:39] <Cyber_Cheese> nightkill ideas, go [08:39] <GreYMisT_> I'll let you know what to do with yours zeph [08:39] <GreYMisT_> Kill chaoser, he is starting to make sense [08:39] <Zephirdd> yes [08:39] <Zephirdd> ! [08:39] <Zephirdd> I was also thinking about roleblocking someone [08:39] <GreYMisT_> and them maybe palmar [08:40] <GreYMisT_> that leaves all the vocalization in WBG's hands 01[08:40] <Cyber_Cheese> leave palmar another day imo 01[08:40] <Cyber_Cheese> he should have enough spare townies to chase up [08:40] <GreYMisT_> who is our second kill then? [08:40] <GreYMisT_> WBG? [08:40] <GreYMisT_> LSB? 01[08:40] <Cyber_Cheese> no [08:40] <Zephirdd> hmmm 01[08:40] <Cyber_Cheese> the guy palmar approves of [08:41] <GreYMisT_> oh wait [08:41] <GreYMisT_> no [08:41] <GreYMisT_> HoD 01[08:41] <Cyber_Cheese> hod works [08:41] <GreYMisT_> chaoser and HoD [08:41] <GreYMisT_> ill kill drazek and lanaia [08:41] <Zephirdd> k, so I'll send a roleblock to WBG [08:41] <GreYMisT_> or try to [08:41] <Zephirdd> high chances that he is blue atm [08:41] <GreYMisT_> that or whitewash one of us 01[08:41] <Cyber_Cheese> are there? 02[08:42] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) [08:42] <Zephirdd> from this setup, I believe there are more blues than greens [08:42] <Zephirdd> I mean, look at us 01[08:42] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm [08:42] <GreYMisT_> still, i would say whitewash one of us, ill let you know who to go for 01[08:42] <Cyber_Cheese> open lotr mafia and look at the roles 01[08:42] <Cyber_Cheese> mafia seems as high powered as that game 01[08:43] <Cyber_Cheese> so expect that ratio [08:43] <Zephirdd> well 01[08:43] <Cyber_Cheese> remember that it might be compensating for the multi lynch [08:43] <Zephirdd> I'd better wait on a track of yours then [08:43] <GreYMisT_> whitewash coagulation zeph. he is the most likely of us to get investigated [08:43] <GreYMisT_> i thik [08:43] <Zephirdd> yes [08:43] <Zephirdd> good point [08:44] <Zephirdd> I wonder if I can send my night action today? >_> [08:44] <GreYMisT_> whitewash doesnt roleblock or anything right? [08:44] <GreYMisT_> just wait until night [08:44] <GreYMisT_> its almost here [08:44] <Zephirdd> no, just makes the target vanilla if DTd [08:44] <GreYMisT_> kk [08:44] <Zephirdd> its 22:45 for me atm [08:44] <GreYMisT_> we also have to decide who performs the kill [08:44] <Zephirdd> I think I can login once tomorrow for that [08:44] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[08:44] <Cyber_Cheese> refresh the thread 01[08:44] <Cyber_Cheese> CHAOSER THREATENS OUR CHANCE OF CHAOS 01[08:45] <Cyber_Cheese> we have a mole 01[08:45] <Cyber_Cheese> chance was most definitely the wrong word, but you get it [08:45] <Zephirdd> dont get it [08:45] <Zephirdd> lol 01[08:45] <Cyber_Cheese> his plan is good [08:45] <Zephirdd> well [08:45] <Zephirdd> kill him [08:45] <Zephirdd> actually [08:45] <Zephirdd> no [08:45] <Zephirdd> let me rephrase it [08:45] <Zephirdd> It's simple. [08:46] <Zephirdd> We kill chaoser. 01[08:46] <Cyber_Cheese> see all this confusion now is because some townies had the idea that they could spam multi vote 01[08:46] <Cyber_Cheese> we still kill chaoser [08:46] <GreYMisT_> ok so zephirdd, when night is on whitewash coag and send send in your kill at chaoser 01[08:46] <Cyber_Cheese> but long beforethat comes around we either have to hope this plan doesnt pass, or find grounds to quell it, if we can [08:46] <GreYMisT_> ill kill HoD [08:46] <Zephirdd> ok [08:46] <Zephirdd> I"m just worried about watchers [08:46] <GreYMisT_> actually Cyber you kill HoD 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> sure 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> tracking bum still? [08:47] <GreYMisT_> you are a tracker, so you ahve a alibi to be running about 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> tracking bum still? [08:47] <GreYMisT_> sure [08:47] <GreYMisT_> or WBG [08:47] <GreYMisT_> your call [08:47] <GreYMisT_> i would say bum 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> at this point in time 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> bum [08:47] <GreYMisT_> and zeph you kill chaoser 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> but ill look over that agian [08:47] <Zephirdd> okay [08:48] <GreYMisT_> because you can claim medic [08:48] <Zephirdd> tomorrow I'll do it 01[08:48] <Cyber_Cheese> remember to use seperate pms for every action [08:48] <Zephirdd> oh yeah [08:48] <Zephirdd> that too [08:48] <GreYMisT_> if shit hits the fan [08:48] <Zephirdd> [08:48] <Zephirdd> anyhow [08:48] <Zephirdd> I'm already waaay past the time [08:48] <Zephirdd> I need to wake up tomorrow [08:48] <GreYMisT_> If we only get 1 lynch today, im probally going to go for drazek and see if i can kill him [08:48] <Zephirdd> and my bio clock sucks [08:48] <Zephirdd> >< [08:48] <Zephirdd> would be better imo [08:48] <GreYMisT_> cause lanaia thinks im town anyway [08:49] <Zephirdd> well I'm out [08:49] <Zephirdd> ciao 02[08:49] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.33.175.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) 01[08:49] <Cyber_Cheese> cya 01[08:49] <Cyber_Cheese> oh 01[08:49] <Cyber_Cheese> fail [08:49] <GreYMisT_> ciao 01[08:49] <Cyber_Cheese> hmmmm 01[08:50] <Cyber_Cheese> i should push palmar overnight 01[08:50] <Cyber_Cheese> chaoser said im parroting him [08:50] <GreYMisT_> if it pleases yuou [08:50] <GreYMisT_> dont get yourself killed 01[08:50] <Cyber_Cheese> i dont want that to be the thing tomorrow [08:50] <GreYMisT_> fair enough 01[08:51] <Cyber_Cheese> it pretty much wont anyway but [08:51] <GreYMisT_> you dont have to accuse him of being scum btw 01[08:51] <Cyber_Cheese> just call out logical flaws [08:51] <GreYMisT_> just disagree with him on a point and ask him questions about why he does agree with you 01[08:51] <Cyber_Cheese> iknow [08:51] <GreYMisT_> kk 01[08:52] <Cyber_Cheese> i know boss [08:52] <GreYMisT_> haha 01[08:52] <Cyber_Cheese> when all these high profile targets die overnight 01[08:52] <Cyber_Cheese> someone will be closer to sheeping town any ways they want 01[08:53] <Cyber_Cheese> imma try and make sure thats me [08:53] <GreYMisT_> if you feel up to it go for it 01[08:54] <Cyber_Cheese> everyone calls tl scum bad 01[08:54] <Cyber_Cheese> i dont think thats the case [08:55] <GreYMisT_> sometimes they can be 01[08:55] <Cyber_Cheese> theres an attitude that some peoples opinions are inherently more important than others that everybody respects 01[08:55] <Cyber_Cheese> the most respected people sheep town every which ways unchallenged 01[08:56] <Cyber_Cheese> and theres statistically more of them on the town team every time [08:56] <GreYMisT_> ah well, its our job to make sure they just sheep the wrong way 01[08:56] <Cyber_Cheese> in other words, to become an ace, you sheep the newbies and work up your reputation over many many games 01[08:57] <Cyber_Cheese> imma be ace 2.0, and it all started here [08:57] <GreYMisT_> haha 01[08:57] <Cyber_Cheese> on to a serious note 01[08:58] <Cyber_Cheese> lemonwalrus 01[08:58] <Cyber_Cheese> is likely to be more important tomorrow [08:58] <GreYMisT_> yera [08:58] <GreYMisT_> yea 01[08:58] <Cyber_Cheese> i might track him [08:59] <GreYMisT_> or bum [08:59] <GreYMisT_> but they are both super viable [08:59] <GreYMisT_> i would actually say do lemon [08:59] <GreYMisT_> now 01[08:59] <Cyber_Cheese> hes making a lot of sense 01[09:00] <Cyber_Cheese> when chaoser flips, he's more or less of the same townie camp at the moment Session Close: Fri Nov 18 09:02:02 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 09:02:02 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[09:02] * Disconnected 02[09:02] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[09:02] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[09:02] * Cyber_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-60-230-198-191.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01[09:03] <Vertual_Cheese> alright heres the deal 01[09:03] <Vertual_Cheese> bumatlarge lied 01[09:03] <Vertual_Cheese> Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit. 01[09:03] <Vertual_Cheese> -does not vote chaoser- Session Close: Fri Nov 18 09:03:47 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 09:03:47 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[09:03] * Disconnected 02[09:03] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[09:03] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> giant f u @ my router sucking 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> alright heres the deal 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> bumatlarge lied 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit. 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> -does not vote chaoser- Session Close: Fri Nov 18 09:04:52 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 09:04:52 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[09:04] * Disconnected 02[09:05] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[09:05] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[09:05] * Cyber_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-60-230-198-191.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01[09:06] <Vertual_Cheese> ... Session Close: Fri Nov 18 09:06:52 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 09:06:52 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[09:06] * Disconnected 02[09:07] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[09:07] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[09:07] * Vertual_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-60-230-198-191.lnse1.wel.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01[09:09] <Cyber_Cheese> my fucking router 01[09:10] <Cyber_Cheese> time to get controversial and bait the dt's Session Close: Fri Nov 18 09:10:36 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 09:10:36 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[09:10] * Disconnected 02[09:10] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[09:10] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[09:10] * GreYMisT_ (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Quit: Page closed) Session Close: Fri Nov 18 09:13:47 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 09:13:47 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[09:13] * Disconnected 02[09:13] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[09:13] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[09:13] * Vertual_Cheese 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Session Start: Fri Nov 18 16:02:30 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[16:02] * Disconnected 02[16:02] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[16:02] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[16:02] * @Cyber_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-131-105.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Session Close: Fri Nov 18 16:11:24 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 16:11:24 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[16:11] * Disconnected 02[16:14] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[16:14] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Close: Fri Nov 18 16:21:01 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 16:21:01 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[16:21] * Disconnected 02[16:21] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[16:21] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Close: Fri Nov 18 16:28:35 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 16:28:35 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[16:28] * Disconnected 02[16:28] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[16:28] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[16:28] * @Cyber_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-131-105.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Session Close: Fri Nov 18 20:02:08 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 18 20:02:08 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[20:02] * Disconnected 02[20:02] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[20:02] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Time: Sat Nov 19 00:00:00 2011 03[00:18] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.33.175.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 03[01:47] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [01:48] <GreYMisT> hello all [01:48] <Zephirdd> hello [01:48] <Zephirdd> I'm out [01:48] <Zephirdd> check QT for my recent thoughtws [01:48] <GreYMisT> i think we need to seriously consider killing lsb 02[01:48] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.58.33.175.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) [01:48] <GreYMisT> not tonight, but later on 02[01:57] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[04:34] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) 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(~Zephirdd@189.114.162.144.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[07:09] <@Cheese_is_here> howdy 01[07:11] <@Cheese_is_here> i learnt something new today 01[07:11] <@Cheese_is_here> nisani can actually put a case together 01[07:13] <@Cheese_is_here> drazerk and hyshes are masons [07:16] <Zephirdd> well [07:16] <Zephirdd> I had seen that draz/hyshes thing [07:16] <Zephirdd> also just put up a defense that would make Phoenix Wright proud [07:16] <Zephirdd> (sp?) 01[07:17] <@Cheese_is_here> pheonix wright is such a boss 01[07:17] <@Cheese_is_here> sp? 01[07:17] <@Cheese_is_here> expand the acronym k? [07:17] <Zephirdd> spelling? 01[07:17] <@Cheese_is_here> oh yeah 01[07:17] <@Cheese_is_here> its phoenix [07:18] <Zephirdd> hmm, which was the page 01[07:18] <@Cheese_is_here> page with what? ill find it [07:18] <Zephirdd> that they admit to be masons? [07:18] <Zephirdd> nvm 01[07:18] <@Cheese_is_here> 70 01[07:20] <@Cheese_is_here> you know 01[07:20] <@Cheese_is_here> you should have got me to go over that defense 01[07:20] <@Cheese_is_here> though maybe claiming ignorance is best [07:20] <Zephirdd> That defense [07:20] <Zephirdd> was nothing but true [07:20] <Zephirdd> and truth is much stronger than anything else [07:20] <Zephirdd> even when I am Mafia [07:20] <Zephirdd> 01[07:21] <@Cheese_is_here> they claim to be two masons that spawned at the start knowing that the other masons were town 01[07:21] <@Cheese_is_here> yeah i dont get LaL 01[07:21] <@Cheese_is_here> good mafia dont need to lie 01[07:21] <@Cheese_is_here> its actually rather pro town 01[07:21] <@Cheese_is_here> pro scum* [07:21] <Zephirdd> heh [07:21] <Zephirdd> now, DRG vs Leenock [07:21] <Zephirdd> holy shit Leenock and Naniwa are on fire [07:21] <Zephirdd> wth 01[07:22] <@Cheese_is_here> drgs got the extended series and its zvz 01[07:22] <@Cheese_is_here> so im thinking drg wins and then naniwa uses his extended series advantage to roll [07:23] <Zephirdd> Leenock went 2-0 Slush, 2-1 MMA, 2-0 Idra, 2-0 HuK, 2-0 MVP [07:23] <Zephirdd> I belive he can pull a 4-0 [07:23] <Zephirdd> 01[07:23] <@Cheese_is_here> 2-0 idra is the only one that matters here 01[07:23] <@Cheese_is_here> man i was up three hours ago wishing mlg was on 01[07:23] <@Cheese_is_here> didnt realise it was 01[07:23] <@Cheese_is_here> so fail [07:24] <Zephirdd> rofl 01[07:24] <@Cheese_is_here> and an hour or two before that [07:24] <Zephirdd> I spent the afternoon traveling back from the barcraft [07:24] <Zephirdd> t_T 01[07:24] <@Cheese_is_here> wait, werent you at the event? [07:24] <Zephirdd> t_t [07:24] <Zephirdd> noooo [07:24] <Zephirdd> wth [07:24] <Zephirdd> I"m Brazilian bro [07:24] <Zephirdd> lol [07:24] <Zephirdd> that's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too far away 01[07:24] <@Cheese_is_here> yeah i know 01[07:24] <@Cheese_is_here> for some reason i thought youd got out there [07:25] <Zephirdd> rofl xD 01[07:25] <@Cheese_is_here> wait [07:25] <Zephirdd> btw 01[07:25] <@Cheese_is_here> why is a barcraft ending before the finals [07:25] <Zephirdd> I won't jump on the bandwagon of prp [07:25] <Zephirdd> because time [07:25] <Zephirdd> lol [07:25] <Zephirdd> it was a day only 01[07:25] <@Cheese_is_here> fair enough 01[07:27] <@Cheese_is_here> naniwa hasnt come across leenock has he? [07:27] <Zephirdd> nope 01[07:27] <@Cheese_is_here> hmm im hoping for leenock to win then 01[07:28] <@Cheese_is_here> mvp would have had the first game if his army didnt stand around for so long that a hive and greater spire could morph 01[07:28] <@Cheese_is_here> so i dont have as much faith in leenock as his 2-0 implies [07:37] <Zephirdd> Leenock will take this shit! [07:37] <Zephirdd> :D 01[07:46] <@Cheese_is_here> ok... wasnt expecting leenock to tie it up [07:47] <Zephirdd> LEENOCK 01[07:58] <@Cheese_is_here> what 01[07:58] <@Cheese_is_here> the 01[07:58] <@Cheese_is_here> fuck 01[07:58] <@Cheese_is_here> i didnt see it going down anything like this [07:58] <Zephirdd> LEEEEEENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK [07:58] <Zephirdd> HAHA 01[08:00] <@Cheese_is_here> man this game of mafias epic 01[08:00] <@Cheese_is_here> its almost like theyr individually told the scum team and told theyll be modkilled if they vote any 01[08:06] <@Cheese_is_here> WTF THAT DRONE SPLIT [08:07] <Zephirdd> dat split [08:07] <Zephirdd> too bad he didnt win t_t 01[08:08] <@Cheese_is_here> i prefer it this way [08:08] <Zephirdd> ' its almost like theyr individually told the scum team and told theyll be modkilled if they vote any' hmm wat 01[08:08] <@Cheese_is_here> more tense [08:08] <Zephirdd> heh [08:09] <Zephirdd> oh I get it [08:10] <Zephirdd> you mean they never hit the scums no matter what [08:10] <Zephirdd> xD [08:10] <Zephirdd> I really dont want to attack prp this day [08:10] <Zephirdd> meh, tomorrow I'll figure what to say about him 01[08:14] <@Cheese_is_here> hmm 01[08:14] <@Cheese_is_here> if coag shows up he can hidden vote him 01[08:15] <@Cheese_is_here> with the hidden votes lynching prp, we can instantly push someone who was pushing prp [08:24] <Zephirdd> LEENOCK 01[08:24] <@Cheese_is_here> NO WAI 01[08:24] <@Cheese_is_here> WHAT A BOSS [08:25] <Zephirdd> yo [08:25] <Zephirdd> told ya [08:25] <Zephirdd> XD 01[08:25] <@Cheese_is_here> naniwa will win this 01[08:26] <@Cheese_is_here> but theyll be awesome games 01[08:40] <@Cheese_is_here> well imma watch this and sleep 01[08:40] <@Cheese_is_here> will be around to talk about mafia in about 10 hours maybe 01[08:40] <@Cheese_is_here> ciao 03[08:40] * Cheese_is_here is now known as Cheese_is_afk 03[08:55] * Zephirdd is now known as Zeph|NaNi 01[08:56] <@Cheese_is_afk> revealing the roaches changed that game so much [08:56] <Zeph|NaNi> not much revealing [08:56] <Zeph|NaNi> as naniwa's scout zealots 01[08:57] <@Cheese_is_afk> the lings came across them [08:57] <Zeph|NaNi> sure, leenock could have pulled the roaches back a bit and then killed the zealots 01[08:57] <@Cheese_is_afk> and the roaches ran into sight after [08:57] <Zeph|NaNi> yeah [08:57] <Zeph|NaNi> but still, so many lings [08:57] <Zeph|NaNi> Naniwa would have thought something was up [08:57] <Zeph|NaNi> fuck yeah nani 01[08:57] <@Cheese_is_afk> if this is another 2-0 that will be disappointing 01[08:57] <@Cheese_is_afk> yet awesoem [08:58] <Zeph|NaNi> rofl 02[10:09] * Zeph|NaNi (~Zephirdd@189.114.162.144.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) 03[23:30] * Zeph|NaNi (~Zephirdd@200.175.39.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 03[23:30] * Zeph|NaNi is now known as Zephirdd Session Time: Tue Nov 22 00:00:00 2011 02[00:28] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@200.175.39.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) 03[02:47] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@200.175.39.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[02:48] <@Cheese_is_afk> howd 01[02:48] <@Cheese_is_afk> howdy* [02:49] <Zephirdd> hiya [02:50] <Zephirdd> sooo with coag's votes, prp should die [02:50] <Zephirdd> right? 01[02:50] <@Cheese_is_afk> prp should already be dead 01[02:51] <@Cheese_is_afk> he needs more than 50% of the game 01[02:51] <@Cheese_is_afk> which at this point a majority is 12 [02:51] <Zephirdd> oh [02:51] <Zephirdd> :O 01[02:51] <@Cheese_is_afk> still, i wish coag was around to use his ability [02:54] <Zephirdd> well, his ability has a 4hour delay [02:54] <Zephirdd> IMO it should be used as a last resource for hammering someone 01[02:55] <@Cheese_is_afk> yeah i mean he should be using it in three hours from now 01[02:55] <@Cheese_is_afk> so it happens right before the lynch 01[03:02] <@Cheese_is_afk> oh lol im still named afk 01[03:02] <@Cheese_is_afk> and i cant believe i derped on the vote counting :/ [03:02] <Zephirdd> hah 03[03:02] * Cheese_is_afk is now known as Cyber_Cheese [03:02] <Zephirdd> why? 01[03:03] <@Cyber_Cheese> counted xsksc twice 01[03:03] <@Cyber_Cheese> one was a dud because he misspelt [03:03] <Zephirdd> oh 01[03:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> yawn 01[03:47] <@Cyber_Cheese> so ... 01[03:47] <@Cyber_Cheese> hows stuff 01[03:47] <@Cyber_Cheese> wondering if i should just make a giant list of votes of people id even consider and hope town did anything [03:54] <Zephirdd> forumite asked for more activity from me 01[03:54] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah i saw [03:54] <Zephirdd> see QT 01[03:54] <@Cyber_Cheese> kk 01[03:55] <@Cyber_Cheese> prplhz is dead, that part might get rebutted 01[03:55] <@Cyber_Cheese> say something about wanting to push kibibit 01[03:55] <@Cyber_Cheese> or someone else flying under the radar 01[03:55] <@Cyber_Cheese> imo 01[03:56] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont actually know if that was good advice 01[03:56] <@Cyber_Cheese> id just add some crap about not wanting to add another suspect so late 01[03:56] <@Cyber_Cheese> if i did that [03:57] <Zephirdd> actually 01[03:57] <@Cyber_Cheese> who knows, the medic might reveal to save palmar [03:57] <Zephirdd> I'll go with "you will see when prp is town" 01[03:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> as long as it makes sense in context 01[03:59] <@Cyber_Cheese> maybe set it up to push forumite on prplhz's flip 01[03:59] <@Cyber_Cheese> though im not sure how youd get away with that 01[04:00] <@Cyber_Cheese> talk about his tunneling going wrong overnight i suppose [04:00] <Zephirdd> hmmm [04:00] <Zephirdd> maybe I could "soft claim" dt? [04:00] <Zephirdd> I mean [04:00] <Zephirdd> I'm thinking about this: "It's sad that prp actually died, but when prp flips town then everyone will see that you are scum; and don't even try to Frame, I'll have enough evidence already." 01[04:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> if you were a dt 01[04:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> you either would have revealed to save prp [04:01] <Zephirdd> oh. [04:01] <Zephirdd> good point [04:01] <Zephirdd> derp 01[04:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> or revealed to get forumite lynched 01[04:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> or neither [04:02] <Zephirdd> "It's sad that prp actually died, but when prp flips town we'll see." 01[04:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> besides, townies can be wrong [04:02] <Zephirdd> simple as that 01[04:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> you know your going to be asked what we'll see right? [04:03] <Zephirdd> hmmm [04:03] <Zephirdd> this is hard [04:04] <Zephirdd> x( 01[04:04] <@Cyber_Cheese> you cant really soft claim dt at the end of a day 01[04:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> i wish the vote count was updated [04:05] <Zephirdd> It's sad that prp actually died, but I am sure he is town, and that there aren't that much arguments to consider him 100% scum. He really shouldn't have been lynched imo. 01[04:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> if your sure he is town 01[04:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> why didnt you defend him pre-lynch [04:06] <Zephirdd> I did [04:06] <Zephirdd> I was late 01[04:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> thats exactly why prp died in the first place, he defended sinani after the lynch [04:06] <Zephirdd> but I did defend him [04:06] <Zephirdd> when he had ~8 votes [04:07] <Zephirdd> and I have the "I didnt have time to come earlier" argument as well [04:07] <Zephirdd> bcz I really didn't 01[04:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> wait i have a better idea 01[04:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> ask prp for all the info he can give you pre-flip 01[04:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> opinions etc. 01[04:08] <@Cyber_Cheese> hes very likely to muddy the waters at the very least [04:08] <Zephirdd> okey 01[04:08] <@Cyber_Cheese> mention that you think hes townie in doing that, rather than trying to rub in your stance on the lynch 01[04:08] <@Cyber_Cheese> just sneak it in somewhere [04:09] <Zephirdd> g2g 02[04:09] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@200.175.39.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 03[04:10] * Cyber_Cheese is now known as CC_probly_sleep 03[04:11] * CC_probly_sleep is now known as Cheese_afk 03[06:37] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@200.175.39.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[06:39] <@Cheese_afk> I hate the times this game is at 01[06:39] <@Cheese_afk> its too late in the morning :/ 01[06:40] <@Cheese_afk> how do we push for chaosers/mrzentors lynch? [06:45] <Zephirdd> :S [06:45] <Zephirdd> well, I'm pushing Forumite's case [06:45] <Zephirdd> that could be a potential lynch day 3 01[06:45] <@Cheese_afk> town looks happy with a single lynch 01[06:46] <@Cheese_afk> we cant have that [06:46] <Zephirdd> yeah, the idea is to prepare terrain for day 3 01[06:47] <@Cheese_afk> dude dude dude 01[06:47] <@Cheese_afk> you should have ran that by me 01[06:47] <@Cheese_afk> you cant just know that prplhz is town 01[06:48] <@Cheese_afk> you have to have some idea but have uncertainty 01[06:49] <@Cheese_afk> heres to nobody noticing [06:49] <Zephirdd> there is always the "that is what I believe, no point in going half-assed about it" 01[06:49] <@Cheese_afk> hmm well its not that [06:50] <Zephirdd> well, we got a JOAT lynch at least [06:50] <Zephirdd> ;p 01[06:50] <@Cheese_afk> its that combined with you waited for him to flip 01[06:50] <@Cheese_afk> yeah, sylar dies what? [06:51] <Zephirdd> I haven't waited for him to flip; he hasn't even flipped yet actually. 01[06:54] <@Cheese_afk> well 01[06:54] <@Cheese_afk> i meant get lynched 01[06:54] <@Cheese_afk> so used to games where the person dies when its decided they are going to [06:54] <Zephirdd> I defended him before his lynch [06:54] <Zephirdd> >_> 01[06:54] <@Cheese_afk> well 01[06:55] <@Cheese_afk> yes and no 01[06:55] <@Cheese_afk> when you have a 'town read' and want to brag about it later 01[06:55] <@Cheese_afk> you take some long steps to defend that read 01[06:56] <@Cheese_afk> eg attacking foruites cred before he's able to manipulate town into getting prp lynched [06:56] <Zephirdd> Well, lets hope they dont bring it up then [06:56] <Zephirdd> sorry 'bout that 01[06:56] <@Cheese_afk> hmm thats interesting [06:56] <Zephirdd> in a sense, I didn't have time to actually attack him today 01[06:56] <@Cheese_afk> i might need a whitewash [06:57] <Zephirdd> wat [06:57] <Zephirdd> ohhhh that's interesting [06:57] <Zephirdd> DCL is blue [06:57] <Zephirdd> you tracked Tyrran right? 01[06:57] <@Cheese_afk> yeah [06:58] <Zephirdd> also, I can't whitewash you [06:58] <Zephirdd> because it would give you vanilla town [06:58] <Zephirdd> and clearly you are not vanilla 01[06:58] <@Cheese_afk> oh right 01[06:58] <@Cheese_afk> that is a problem [06:58] <Zephirdd> yep [06:58] <Zephirdd> you can claim tracker tho, and say that you were suspicious about tyrran [06:59] <Zephirdd> tracker isn't really a mafia-only role, is it? 01[06:59] <@Cheese_afk> usually town [06:59] <Zephirdd> so, as long as someone doesn't actually DTs you [06:59] <Zephirdd> you are fine 01[06:59] <@Cheese_afk> my life just got an expiry date 01[07:00] <@Cheese_afk> its not nearby 01[07:00] <@Cheese_afk> but its coming [07:00] <Zephirdd> :S 01[07:00] <@Cheese_afk> theres only so long that i shouldnt get killed overnight for 01[07:01] <@Cheese_afk> im cool with claiming tracker 01[07:01] <@Cheese_afk> people will look elsewhere 01[07:18] <@Cheese_afk> ok 01[07:18] <@Cheese_afk> if you have anything on forumite 01[07:18] <@Cheese_afk> use it 01[07:21] <@Cheese_afk> gay 01[07:21] <@Cheese_afk> this guy isnt against palmar 01[07:36] <@Cheese_afk> i think 01[07:36] <@Cheese_afk> i made a mistake attacking forumite there 01[07:36] <@Cheese_afk> DCLXVI looks worse than me at least, but I can't help but feel that was too defencive 03[07:38] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) has joined #mudkips [07:38] <GreYMisT> what is up [07:39] <GreYMisT> you there zephirdd? [07:40] <Zephirdd> HI i'M BACK [07:40] <Zephirdd> SORRY [07:40] <Zephirdd> oopsie caps [07:40] <GreYMisT> haha np [07:41] <GreYMisT> you should whitewash cheese tonight i think [07:42] <Zephirdd> no, that would be wrong [07:42] <Zephirdd> because if someone rolechecks him [07:42] <Zephirdd> he'll see "vanilla town" [07:42] <Zephirdd> so its the same as "LOL THIS GUY WAS FRAMED" [07:43] <GreYMisT> you dont get blue/red/green with most investigations [07:43] <GreYMisT> you often either get town alienged or mafia alienged [07:43] <Zephirdd> Oh [07:43] <Zephirdd> I c [07:44] <GreYMisT> and he could just claim nosey neighbor if that happened [07:44] <Zephirdd> nosey neighbor? [07:44] <GreYMisT> a vanilla town that "visists" other people during the night [07:44] <GreYMisT> randomly [07:44] <GreYMisT> lessons the power of a tracker [07:44] <Zephirdd> oh [07:44] <GreYMisT> they are not told they are a nosey neighbor [07:44] <Zephirdd> well, it is a variation of tracker [07:45] <GreYMisT> much like a miller [07:45] <Zephirdd> okey [07:45] <GreYMisT> yea, but they dont know they are one and they cant choose who they visit [07:46] <Zephirdd> Well, I thought he could also claim to be a tracker anyways [07:46] <GreYMisT> anyway, you might want to role block DLC [07:46] <GreYMisT> we know he is blue now [07:46] <Zephirdd> yep [07:47] <GreYMisT> so atm i think our kills should look like Mafia KP: Forumite, DLCguy, My KP: both/one Mason, you roleblock DLCguy, cheese track palmar. [07:48] <Zephirdd> ok [07:51] <GreYMisT> i hope prp doesnt flip medic, it will make the fakeclaim i had that much harder 01[07:51] <@Cheese_afk> Too late, I already confirmed prp [07:52] <GreYMisT> boo 01[07:52] <@Cheese_afk> prp already revealed his role 01[07:52] <@Cheese_afk> corpse digger or something 01[07:52] <@Cheese_afk> stole kenpachis role [07:52] <GreYMisT> i was going to claim tracking medic. the opposide of kenpachi's role. i can only protect people who are performing a night action, and i track them while im doing it [07:53] <GreYMisT> i think i can still pull it off if it comes to it 01[07:53] <@Cheese_afk> thats pretty cool 01[07:53] <@Cheese_afk> wont the other medic complain? [07:53] <Zephirdd> its a JOAT variation btw [07:53] <GreYMisT> which other medic? [07:53] <Zephirdd> we dont even know that there is another medic [07:53] <Zephirdd> as far as we know, I am the other medic 01[07:54] <@Cheese_afk> palmar survived [07:54] <GreYMisT> you can make a case to be town whitewasher 01[07:54] <@Cheese_afk> there is a second medic [07:54] <Zephirdd> k [07:54] <GreYMisT> making people appear town so the mafia dont get them as blue reads [07:54] <Zephirdd> time for some brain killing [07:54] <Zephirdd> I'll see how did they dub [07:54] <GreYMisT> did prp prot him? [07:54] <Zephirdd> oooopsie [07:54] <Zephirdd> wrong chat 01[07:54] <@Cheese_afk> what 01[07:54] <@Cheese_afk> dont kp forumite [07:55] <GreYMisT> he is starting to make sense 01[07:55] <@Cheese_afk> kp on hod [07:55] <GreYMisT> he will be dangerous 01[07:55] <@Cheese_afk> yeah but he just got a blue lynched [07:55] <GreYMisT> doesnt matter, his head is in the right plcae [07:55] <GreYMisT> i would have gone for prp as town also [07:55] <GreYMisT> have we confirmed HoD as blue? [07:56] <Zephirdd> nope [07:56] <Zephirdd> not confirmed 01[07:56] <@Cheese_afk> well strictly no [07:56] <Zephirdd> just highly suspicious 01[07:56] <@Cheese_afk> but hes laying low, and hes a cop of some sort 01[07:56] <@Cheese_afk> post #107 on the qt [07:56] <GreYMisT> then i say you track him and we kill the people confirmd to give us problems 01[07:57] <@Cheese_afk> it would be really awesome if we didnt have 2x dead weight on this [07:57] <GreYMisT> yea kinda sucks [07:57] <GreYMisT> im going to PM zona and see if she can warn them or something 01[07:58] <@Cheese_afk> there might only be one medic if palmar is a vet [07:58] <GreYMisT> in any case, the coolness and intracate nature of my post might mean that i can at least take a medic down with me if i get lynched by forcing him to claim/get lynched 01[07:59] <@Cheese_afk> i need to get away from this game for a bit, unexpected non-green reveal is messing with me a bit 01[07:59] <@Cheese_afk> heh, get the medic killed first, profit 01[07:59] <@Cheese_afk> sounds like an interesting idea 01[07:59] <@Cheese_afk> might as well have fun with the game 01[08:02] <@Cheese_afk> DCLXVI is soft claiming medic 01[08:02] <@Cheese_afk> 'he didnt protect palmar' [08:02] <GreYMisT> which is why we roleblock and kill his ass tonight 01[08:03] <@Cheese_afk> DCL, hod, mason imo [08:04] <Zephirdd> I'll roleblock him then [08:04] <GreYMisT> we need to start killing the strong presences in town [08:04] <GreYMisT> how about this [08:04] <GreYMisT> 1 mason is useless. I kill DCL with the "medic" ID, and Drazerk with Mason [08:05] <GreYMisT> kp goes to HoD and forumite [08:05] <Zephirdd> wait, do you have two kills? [08:05] <GreYMisT> no 01[08:05] <@Cheese_afk> we need a second lynch for you to get a second kill [08:05] <GreYMisT> well not yet 01[08:05] <@Cheese_afk> it doesnt look like its going to happen [08:06] <GreYMisT> yea, alright. im going to start pushing for us to not lynch another person today depending on what people are saying. ill kill drazerk, you guys can kill DLC and HoD [08:06] <GreYMisT> respond to my question btw, in different times [08:06] <GreYMisT> want to make it look like we are talking to each other [08:07] <GreYMisT> its on page 84 [08:09] <GreYMisT> Actually, maybe, just maybe, we can get DC lynched [08:09] <GreYMisT> that would solve some problems [08:09] <Zephirdd> idk how to answer lol [08:11] <GreYMisT> just restate what your "reads" are without the presense of prp [08:11] <GreYMisT> look back over your filter [08:11] <GreYMisT> to see 03[08:11] * Retrieving #mudkips modes... [08:11] <GreYMisT> and say something about either wanting to wait, or wanting to lynch just one person on your list so we can at least get something else done today' [08:12] <Zephirdd> "Roleblock would generate a visit" [08:12] <Zephirdd> incoming DLC watched 01[08:12] <@Cheese_afk> Tyrran would have mentioned if he was RB'd [08:13] <Zephirdd> that's not it [08:13] <GreYMisT> nisani already flipped town RB [08:13] <GreYMisT> sorry sinani [08:13] <Zephirdd> people will at least watch over DLC 01[08:13] <@Cheese_afk> yeah im just working out what to say 01[08:13] <@Cheese_afk> if dclxvi flips [08:13] <Zephirdd> Palmar: I don't think we have 3 medics. 01[08:14] <@Cheese_afk> kenpachi, prp, dlc 01[08:14] <@Cheese_afk> to be fair prp isnt really a medic, but [08:14] <Zephirdd> prp isn't a medic at all [08:14] <Zephirdd> he is a JOAT [08:14] <GreYMisT> it would be really good if we could lynch DLC today. but that is dangerous [08:15] <GreYMisT> grrrr. let me read over HoDs filter, see if i can tell if he is a DT or not 01[08:15] <@Cheese_afk> hey, if palmar uses bad logic, dont rain on his parade 01[08:15] <@Cheese_afk> itll turn against him [08:17] <GreYMisT> just from HoD's first page on his filiter yea, I'd say he is about 80% DT [08:17] <Zephirdd> what would happen if we didnt do anything at all to DLC? [08:17] <Zephirdd> no roleblock, no targeting, nothing [08:17] <Zephirdd> any watcher would see him as 'not visited' [08:17] <GreYMisT> well we let a blue go free [08:17] <GreYMisT> but yea [08:18] <GreYMisT> might be safe to try to get him killed tomorrow [08:18] <GreYMisT> because he will almost certainly be watched tonight [08:18] <Zephirdd> yeah [08:18] <Zephirdd> meanwhile, I could roleblock someone else [08:18] <Zephirdd> say, Palmar [08:18] <GreYMisT> yea cheese, i think HoD is a DT. i can back it up with reasoning if you want [08:18] <GreYMisT> RB HoD [08:19] <GreYMisT> in case we dont get the kill off [08:19] <Zephirdd> okay [08:20] <GreYMisT> you understand why we think HoD is blue? [08:20] <GreYMisT> and DT specifically> [08:21] <Zephirdd> I gave the idea that he was blue 01[08:21] <@Cheese_afk> zeph was the one that called him on blue in the first place [08:21] <Zephirdd> no idea about the DT, but I trust you [08:21] <GreYMisT> ah cool [08:21] <Zephirdd> [08:21] <GreYMisT> open up his filiter and look read his first bage [08:21] <GreYMisT> page* 01[08:21] <@Cheese_afk> check post 107 on qt if you want to see why dt really [08:21] <GreYMisT> notice how he constantly warns people about being too hasty and aggressive 01[08:22] <@Cheese_afk> 105 lol [08:22] <GreYMisT> even saying wait on voting kenpachi 01[08:22] <@Cheese_afk> remembered the wrong number [08:22] <GreYMisT> thats usally a mark of a DT. they want people to be hesitant and wait so they can get their checks off [08:23] <Zephirdd> i see [08:23] <GreYMisT> i think im going to vote nisani [08:23] <GreYMisT> i want to keep tying myself to WBG [08:24] <Zephirdd> I'll keep my profile of low activity and inconsistent posting times, in order to claim lack of time for real analysis [08:24] <Zephirdd> aka. I won't respond JUST AS THEY POST stuff [08:26] <Zephirdd> I have to leave anyway [08:26] <Zephirdd> looooooong day tomorrow [08:27] <Zephirdd> cya 02[08:27] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@200.175.39.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 02[08:29] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.82) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[10:03] * Cheese_afk is now known as Cheese_Sleep Session Close: Tue Nov 22 21:59:41 2011 Session Start: Tue Nov 22 21:59:41 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[21:59] * Disconnected 02[21:59] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[21:59] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 03[22:29] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@200.201.40.150) has joined #mudkips 02[22:35] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@200.201.40.150) Quit (Ping timeout) Session Time: Wed Nov 23 00:00:00 2011 03[04:29] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@187.112.84.154) has joined #mudkips 03[05:41] * Teh_Cheese (webchat@CPE-124-182-167-39.lns6.pie.bigpond.net.au) has joined #mudkips [05:42] <Teh_Cheese> yo [05:42] <Teh_Cheese> im not near my laptop atm [05:42] <Teh_Cheese> any idea whats going down [05:42] <Teh_Cheese> been fairly busy but needa submit night actions [05:42] <Zephirdd> no idea [05:42] <Zephirdd> lol [05:43] <Zephirdd> I"ll kill HoD now [05:43] <Zephirdd> should I roleblock someone? [05:43] <Zephirdd> '-' [05:44] <Teh_Cheese> not sure [05:45] <Teh_Cheese> who would you roleblock [05:46] <Zephirdd> DCL [05:46] <Zephirdd> the only one who is worth roleblocking [05:47] <Zephirdd> but again, it would be good to nothing happen to him too [05:47] <Zephirdd> for the watchers [05:47] <Teh_Cheese> hmm [05:48] <Teh_Cheese> thats a hard one [05:48] <Teh_Cheese> either whitewash one of us, or roleblock dcl [05:48] <Teh_Cheese> honestly i dont really mind what you choose [05:49] <Zephirdd> I think I'll just whitewash myself [05:50] <Teh_Cheese> between kenpachi and hod i doubt town has many more blues [05:51] <Teh_Cheese> i mean many more dts [05:51] <Teh_Cheese> but imo save the roleblock [05:51] <Teh_Cheese> so we can call bs to the person we use it on [05:52] <Zephirdd> okay [05:52] <Zephirdd> afk~ [05:57] <Teh_Cheese> imo you should whitewash yourself and attack dclxvi [05:57] <Teh_Cheese> submitting a kill on hod anyway 03[06:00] * Cyber_Cheese (webchat@CPE-58-169-248-15.lns1.wel.bigpond.net.au) has joined #mudkips [06:00] <Cyber_Cheese> fffff so much cheesing [06:01] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah anyway submitted a kill on hod [06:01] <Cyber_Cheese> and tracking lemon [06:02] <Zephirdd> wat [06:02] <Zephirdd> I had submited a kill on him already LOL 02[06:03] * Teh_Cheese (webchat@CPE-124-182-167-39.lns6.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout) [06:04] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm [06:04] <Cyber_Cheese> interesting [06:04] <Cyber_Cheese> ill change it and attack dclxvi myself [06:04] <Cyber_Cheese> tyrran didnt get hit when i was confirmed to be there [06:05] <Cyber_Cheese> oh wait thats flawed logic [06:05] <Zephirdd> i dont even know anymore [06:05] <Cyber_Cheese> neither [06:06] <Cyber_Cheese> is greymist going to be on later? [06:06] <Cyber_Cheese> any idea [06:07] <Cyber_Cheese> can you post a more detailed version of your whitewash ability? [06:08] <Cyber_Cheese> wondering if that would indeed work [06:10] <Zephirdd> weren't you killing hang on [06:10] <Zephirdd> ops [06:10] <Zephirdd> hang on [06:10] <Cyber_Cheese> imma hanging boss [06:11] <Zephirdd> see QT [06:11] <Zephirdd> its my PM [06:12] <Cyber_Cheese> generates visits normally [06:12] <Cyber_Cheese> nevermind that plan [06:12] <Zephirdd> lol [06:13] <Cyber_Cheese> ok so we leave dclxvi [06:13] <Cyber_Cheese> at worst someone pushes him and we can push that person [06:14] <Zephirdd> lets see [06:19] <Cyber_Cheese> ill attack risk.nuke, see what happens imo [06:19] <Zephirdd> good [06:19] <Zephirdd> wait [06:19] <Zephirdd> let me resend my PM then [06:19] <Zephirdd> so you dont kill 2 ppl [06:20] <Cyber_Cheese> what [06:20] <Cyber_Cheese> we can multi kill? [06:20] <Cyber_Cheese> i thought it overrode [06:20] <Zephirdd> dunno [06:20] <Zephirdd> resent the PM [06:20] <Zephirdd> so I'm on top [06:20] <Zephirdd> [06:20] <Cyber_Cheese> [06:20] <Cyber_Cheese> you mean the hod one yea? [06:21] <Zephirdd> yeah [06:21] <Cyber_Cheese> kk 03[06:24] * OneCheese (webchat@CPE-124-178-151-208.lns4.pie.bigpond.net.au) has joined #mudkips [06:24] <OneCheese> unstable internet ftl [06:24] <OneCheese> so yeah i submitted the nuke kill [06:26] <Zephirdd> k 02[06:27] * Cyber_Cheese (webchat@CPE-58-169-248-15.lns1.wel.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout) [06:33] <OneCheese> hmm yeah if greymists around take his kill over mine [06:34] <OneCheese> i might be around before the lynch but i cant guarentee it [06:34] <OneCheese> cia [06:34] <OneCheese> ciao [06:35] <Zephirdd> cya 02[06:40] * OneCheese (webchat@CPE-124-178-151-208.lns4.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout) 02[08:07] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@187.112.84.154) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 03[09:04] * Cyber_Cheese (webchat@CPE-124-178-151-208.lns4.pie.bigpond.net.au) has joined #mudkips 02[09:04] * Cyber_Cheese (webchat@CPE-124-178-151-208.lns4.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Signed off) 03[09:42] * Cyber_Cheese (webchat@CPE-124-178-151-208.lns4.pie.bigpond.net.au) has joined #mudkips 02[09:42] * Cyber_Cheese (webchat@CPE-124-178-151-208.lns4.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Signed off) Session Time: Thu Nov 24 00:00:00 2011 03[01:59] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@187.112.84.154) has joined #mudkips [01:59] <Zephirdd> okay [01:59] <Zephirdd> so [01:59] <Zephirdd> we're fucked. [02:14] <Zephirdd> ...and DCL saves the day [02:14] <Zephirdd> lol 01[03:27] <@Cheese_Sleep> yo 01[03:27] <@Cheese_Sleep> sorry was actually sleeping [04:14] <Zephirdd> see QT plz [04:14] <Zephirdd> Cheese_Sleep: 01[04:36] <@Cheese_Sleep> yo 01[04:36] <@Cheese_Sleep> still around sarge? 01[04:38] <@Cheese_Sleep> your case isn't strong enough to throw a vote in and look convincing 03[04:43] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mudkips [04:43] <GreYMisT> hey 01[04:43] <@Cheese_Sleep> howdy 01[04:44] <@Cheese_Sleep> hmmm how do i reply to palmar here 01[04:44] <@Cheese_Sleep> tracking a very townie person day 1 didn't pay off much 01[04:44] <@Cheese_Sleep> well 01[04:44] <@Cheese_Sleep> admitting to it didnt anyway [04:45] <GreYMisT> idk, say like it seemed like a good idea at the time, judging from his activity level/quality of posting you thought he could be red or blue 01[04:45] <@Cheese_Sleep> nah dont want to hint at the blue possibility [04:45] <GreYMisT> im honestly surprised people didnt come after me about this eariler [04:45] <GreYMisT> being on the 3 lynches 01[04:46] <@Cheese_Sleep> yeah, if they actually follow rols plan were screwed 01[04:46] <@Cheese_Sleep> though im tempted to make a mass lynch go through because we know it wont work [04:46] <GreYMisT> oh yea the 6 01[04:46] <@Cheese_Sleep> kill all 7 and find out the broken platform mechanic [04:46] <GreYMisT> limit thing [04:47] <GreYMisT> I dont think I will last another day anyway 01[04:48] <@Cheese_Sleep> we have the smokebomb 01[04:48] <@Cheese_Sleep> mafia wont be dying today [04:48] <GreYMisT> coag doesnt have the smokebomb [04:48] <GreYMisT> he just told me it got used for some reason 01[04:48] <@Cheese_Sleep> what 01[04:48] <@Cheese_Sleep> did he submit a dont use action? 01[04:49] <@Cheese_Sleep> double check that with zona [04:49] <GreYMisT> idk 01[04:49] <@Cheese_Sleep> hmm [04:49] <GreYMisT> i dont think we need it, we just need to be careful 01[04:50] <@Cheese_Sleep> imma ask zona if he's used it or not 01[04:50] <@Cheese_Sleep> well we dont need it but it would be nice 01[04:51] <@Cheese_Sleep> I wont bother defending my logic for following tyrran 01[04:51] <@Cheese_Sleep> its bad and i know it 01[04:52] <@Cheese_Sleep> if its bad enough that i get pushed ill think of something, but i dont want the thread bogged down with posts about me [04:52] <GreYMisT> LOL Coag! [04:52] <GreYMisT> like a boss 01[04:53] <@Cheese_Sleep> rofl [04:55] <GreYMisT> how many are alive atm cheese? 01[04:55] <@Cheese_Sleep> 19 [04:55] <GreYMisT> ah yea i see 01[04:55] <@Cheese_Sleep> if he double secret votes nisani we might be able to have him dead [04:55] <GreYMisT> means it takes what, 10 to lynch? 01[04:55] <@Cheese_Sleep> yeah [04:55] <GreYMisT> no need to reveal the secret votes until we have to 01[04:56] <@Cheese_Sleep> let townies push people, vote someone valuable out with them or something? [04:57] <GreYMisT> i think we'll know when we see it 01[04:58] <@Cheese_Sleep> i dont think coag is playing to win, he seems to be playing to get it over with atm 01[04:59] <@Cheese_Sleep> if he's lying about not having the smoke-bomb, we need to know, so imma pm zona and double check [04:59] <GreYMisT> alright 01[04:59] <@Cheese_Sleep> hmm what was his exact statement 01[05:00] <@Cheese_Sleep> just forward me the pm or something so I can show zona [05:00] <GreYMisT> my smoke bomb was used already for some stupid reason. [05:00] <GreYMisT> is his wording [05:00] <GreYMisT> wont bother... fuck it we dont need it. Original Message From GreYMisT: thats weird, pm zona about it? [05:01] <GreYMisT> there is my and his reply 01[05:01] <@Cheese_Sleep> kk 01[05:04] <@Cheese_Sleep> hmm 01[05:04] <@Cheese_Sleep> i do wonder if those coag votes will work [05:05] <GreYMisT> ive done the bold multuple vote thing before 01[05:05] <@Cheese_Sleep> cool [05:06] <GreYMisT> im going to log out of irc, ill be on my phone checking the thread some though [05:06] <GreYMisT> cya 01[05:06] <@Cheese_Sleep> cya 02[05:06] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Page closed) [05:17] <Zephirdd> lol at coag votes 01[05:31] <@Cheese_Sleep> hmm 01[05:31] <@Cheese_Sleep> ya there sarge? [05:41] <Zephirdd> sarge? [05:41] <Zephirdd> lol [05:41] <Zephirdd> I'm here 01[05:45] <@Cheese_Sleep> lol 01[05:46] <@Cheese_Sleep> so whats our next move 01[05:46] <@Cheese_Sleep> do we [05:46] <Zephirdd> huh [05:46] <Zephirdd> dunno [05:46] <Zephirdd> lets see what happens [05:46] <Zephirdd> .-. 01[05:47] <@Cheese_Sleep> do we jump on all of this multi-lynch stuff? 01[05:47] <@Cheese_Sleep> if you sit back and do nothing 01[05:47] <@Cheese_Sleep> townies control the lynches [05:48] <Zephirdd> there is the problem [05:48] <Zephirdd> I don't know what the right move is now 01[05:58] <@Cheese_Sleep> yeah thats the problem im having 01[05:58] <@Cheese_Sleep> if we can smokebomb then we can push a mass vote policy [05:58] <Zephirdd> what happened with the smokebomb thing? 01[05:59] <@Cheese_Sleep> that or we find people who look bad 01[05:59] <@Cheese_Sleep> no idea yet 01[06:02] <@Cheese_Sleep> well 01[06:02] <@Cheese_Sleep> im thinking we should push wbg 01[06:03] <@Cheese_Sleep> but i dont want to look bad with all these listchecks [06:03] <Zephirdd> shouldnt we try to chill down this day [06:03] <Zephirdd> and see what happens? 01[06:03] <@Cheese_Sleep> if wbg doesnt get lynched yet i pushed him 01[06:03] <@Cheese_Sleep> that seems acceptable 01[06:04] <@Cheese_Sleep> we cant change our patterns too durastically 01[06:06] <@Cheese_Sleep> my desktops screen broke [06:07] <Zephirdd> did it borke? [06:07] <Zephirdd> .-. 01[06:07] <@Cheese_Sleep> so im casually pwning up skyrim right [06:07] <Zephirdd> rofl 01[06:08] <@Cheese_Sleep> all of a sudden, thick black lines and about 6 evenly spaced lines of about 2 pixels white [06:08] <Zephirdd> ? 01[06:08] <@Cheese_Sleep> vertical 01[06:08] <@Cheese_Sleep> thats all it displays when its powered on now [06:08] <Zephirdd> oO' [06:08] <Zephirdd> weeeeeird 01[06:08] <@Cheese_Sleep> not even the little bouncing image from when its not connected to a computer [06:08] <Zephirdd> new screen time? õ_o 01[06:09] <@Cheese_Sleep> yeah 01[06:09] <@Cheese_Sleep> to be fair i had dropped it a couple of times and harshly treated it over the last 4 years or so [06:09] <Zephirdd> lol [06:09] <Zephirdd> >4 year old peripheral 01[06:09] <@Cheese_Sleep> but nothing within the last few weeks [06:09] <Zephirdd> yeah, time to get a new one 01[06:10] <@Cheese_Sleep> dw 01[06:10] <@Cheese_Sleep> still got a 20 something inch crt laying around [06:10] <Zephirdd> lolz 01[06:10] <@Cheese_Sleep> somewhere 01[06:10] <@Cheese_Sleep> im really glad screens got lighter 01[06:27] <@Cheese_Sleep> oh man i forgot how much wbg had done recently 01[06:27] <@Cheese_Sleep> erm 01[06:27] <@Cheese_Sleep> i mean at the start 01[06:29] <@Cheese_Sleep> might just comment on some of the lists 01[06:30] <@Cheese_Sleep> im going to make sure i dont get too active pushing coag 01[06:31] <@Cheese_Sleep> much too obvious a bus 01[06:31] <@Cheese_Sleep> just leave the vote there from day 1 and profit 03[07:36] * Zephirdd_ (~Zephirdd@187.112.84.154) has joined #mudkips 02[07:39] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@187.112.84.154) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out) 03[07:40] * Zephirdd_ is now known as Zephirdd 01[07:46] <@Cheese_Sleep> hmm 01[07:46] <@Cheese_Sleep> ill ramp it up slowly on wbg 01[07:47] <@Cheese_Sleep> if i do it too quickly, i wont build enough suspicion 02[08:00] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@187.112.84.154) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) Session Close: Thu Nov 24 17:50:50 2011 Session Start: Thu Nov 24 17:50:50 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[17:50] * Disconnected 02[17:51] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[17:51] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[17:51] * @Cheese_Sleep (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-131-105.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03[21:33] * Vertual_Cheese is now known as Cyber_CheeseAFK 03[22:03] * Cyber_CheeseAFK is now known as cheezafk 03[22:04] * cheezafk is now known as Cyber_Cheese Session Time: Fri Nov 25 00:00:00 2011 Session Close: Fri Nov 25 01:33:32 2011 Session Start: Fri Nov 25 01:33:32 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[01:33] * Disconnected 02[01:33] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[01:33] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[01:33] * Cyber_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-131-105.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03[04:19] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.72.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[04:45] <Cheese_Sleep> yo [04:45] <Zephirdd> yo [04:45] <Zephirdd> somehow we are stabilized again [04:45] <Zephirdd> I guess [04:45] <Zephirdd> maybe [04:45] <Zephirdd> .-. [04:45] <Zephirdd> I'll whitewash myself today just in case 01[04:54] <Cheese_Sleep> hmmm i dunno 01[04:54] <Cheese_Sleep> i might need it more after the whole tracking tyrran thing 01[05:05] <Cheese_Sleep> hopefully chaoser gets lynched today 01[06:46] <Cheese_Sleep> yo 01[06:46] <Cheese_Sleep> you around sarge? [07:18] <Zephirdd> back 01[07:39] <Cheese_Sleep> sup [07:40] <Zephirdd> sup [07:40] <Zephirdd> lol [07:40] <Zephirdd> the game is weird [07:40] <Zephirdd> >_> 01[07:40] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah 01[07:40] <Cheese_Sleep> i didnt think through calling tracker there 01[07:41] <Cheese_Sleep> theyll palm it off as a bad decision eventually with any luck [07:41] <Zephirdd> :< 01[07:42] <Cheese_Sleep> hmm 01[07:42] <Cheese_Sleep> you should make a case on sabin 01[07:42] <Cheese_Sleep> if you get up to 7/8 votes bus him 01[07:44] <Cheese_Sleep> tempted to chat about this nightkills buisness 01[07:44] <Cheese_Sleep> but i know its a bad idea [07:44] <Zephirdd> lol @ wbg 01[07:44] <Cheese_Sleep> epic [07:45] <Zephirdd> we will end up having forumite lynched before me at this point 01[07:45] <Cheese_Sleep> forumite wasn't on nisanis lynch 01[07:45] <Cheese_Sleep> we can get forumite and nisnai today 01[07:45] <Cheese_Sleep> and then it turns the tides when they both flip town [07:46] <Zephirdd> if I can push sinani [07:46] <Zephirdd> and he flips scum [07:46] <Zephirdd> I guess I'd get some cred, right? 01[07:46] <Cheese_Sleep> sabin* 01[07:46] <Cheese_Sleep> and yeah some [07:46] <Zephirdd> sabin* 01[07:47] <Cheese_Sleep> i wouldnt rush out to grab it though [07:47] <Zephirdd> also [07:47] <Zephirdd> is wbg always using retarded logic like this? 01[07:47] <Cheese_Sleep> oh yeah [07:47] <Zephirdd> I mean seriously [07:47] <Zephirdd> he has... zero. ZERO arguments against me [07:47] <Zephirdd> at least forumite and RoL connect my votes 01[07:47] <Cheese_Sleep> you give out a scum vibe 01[07:47] <Cheese_Sleep> lack of confidence day 1 [07:48] <Zephirdd> oh well 01[07:48] <Cheese_Sleep> or something along those lines 01[07:49] <Cheese_Sleep> its too vauge to put you high on any lists [07:49] <Zephirdd> without a proper case there is no way they actually will lynch me 01[07:49] <Cheese_Sleep> if your a townie and towns in chaos a few days in with no scum kills 01[07:49] <Cheese_Sleep> focus on the people who recieve the least attention [07:49] <Zephirdd> ohh i see 01[07:50] <Cheese_Sleep> because scum have already planned out the day usually, they have some idea where to be 01[07:51] <Cheese_Sleep> also scum dont usually talk to each other [07:51] <Zephirdd> well, our agenda is kinda fucked up too [07:51] <Zephirdd> >_> [07:51] <Zephirdd> rly? [07:51] <Zephirdd> :O 01[07:51] <Cheese_Sleep> well if you already have a private chat, why do it in the public view 01[07:51] <Cheese_Sleep> i mean dont talk to in front of town [07:51] <Zephirdd> oh lol [07:51] <Zephirdd> 01[07:52] <Cheese_Sleep> lol scumteam not communicating 01[07:52] <Cheese_Sleep> i wonder how well that would work 01[07:53] <Cheese_Sleep> with todays flips, the townie group established (palmar/wbg/rol circle) that people seem to be following will break apart [07:53] <Zephirdd> btw [07:53] <Zephirdd> remember that DN-themed mafia? 01[07:53] <Cheese_Sleep> yeha [07:53] <Zephirdd> one of the variations included two Death Note holders [07:53] <Zephirdd> and they didnt know who was who 01[07:54] <Cheese_Sleep> 2 serial killers vs town [07:54] <Zephirdd> also L gets medic previleges 01[07:54] <Cheese_Sleep> interesting 01[07:54] <Cheese_Sleep> did they win together? [07:54] <Zephirdd> and scum cant kill scum [07:54] <Zephirdd> yep [07:54] <Zephirdd> win by killing L 01[07:54] <Cheese_Sleep> hmm 01[07:54] <Cheese_Sleep> that sounds pretty epic [07:54] <Zephirdd> and scum lost if Kira(the "godfather") was killed [07:55] <Zephirdd> which would be either lynch or L vigi-shot 01[07:55] <Cheese_Sleep> an underpowered mafia working to assassinate a single townie instead of destroying town 01[07:55] <Cheese_Sleep> sounds like a pretty epic game [07:56] <Zephirdd> it was hilarious, esp. because everyone was so dumb [07:56] <Zephirdd> dunno how would it work on TL 01[07:56] <Cheese_Sleep> honestly itd probably be similar to a normal game 01[07:57] <Cheese_Sleep> except you randomly lose sometimes because the nk got the VIP [07:57] <Zephirdd> oh, but scum isn't that underpowered [07:57] <Zephirdd> because they could control TIME of death and even control the death post [07:57] <Zephirdd> + there is no night cycle 01[07:57] <Cheese_Sleep> no night cycle 01[07:57] <Cheese_Sleep> interesting 01[07:57] <Cheese_Sleep> i really want to try that [07:57] <Zephirdd> you'd have to send the death 24h in advance [07:58] <Zephirdd> (at least 24h) [07:58] <Zephirdd> and there is a 24h cooldown between death "requests" [07:58] <Zephirdd> which means you can kill no one day 1, and 2 persons day 2 [07:58] <Zephirdd> wtf people throwing random fireworks here [07:58] <Zephirdd> we don't even have thanksgiving [07:59] <Zephirdd> holy shit this town 01[07:59] <Cheese_Sleep> what really [07:59] <Zephirdd> they LOVE to kill themselves 01[07:59] <Cheese_Sleep> i dont get fireworks neither 01[07:59] <Cheese_Sleep> fireworks or thanksgiving* i mean [08:00] <Zephirdd> you think we can win this? [08:00] <Zephirdd> .-. 01[08:00] <Cheese_Sleep> easily 01[08:01] <Cheese_Sleep> i want to kill lemon and someone opposing palmar tonight rather than palmar himself though 01[08:01] <Cheese_Sleep> make palmar look worse [08:02] <Zephirdd> dunno, I agree with lemon death because we know he is blue [08:02] <Zephirdd> mb kill wbg? 01[08:02] <Cheese_Sleep> but we dont know what kind of blue so we cant greymist it 01[08:03] <Cheese_Sleep> hmmm scum kp + greymist cop tag on palmar, scum kp lemon, greymist mason tag on hyshes 01[08:03] <Cheese_Sleep> that way if palmar survives we know hes not an information role [08:04] <Zephirdd> double hitting palmar? [08:04] <Zephirdd> wont any medic save his ass? [08:04] <Zephirdd> like [08:04] <Zephirdd> one? [08:04] <Zephirdd> also [08:04] <Zephirdd> did we vote on him on the first days? [08:04] <Zephirdd> >_> 01[08:04] <Cheese_Sleep> if there is two medics i doubt both will choose palmar [08:05] <Zephirdd> I mean [08:05] <Zephirdd> did we try to kill him day 1? [08:05] <Zephirdd> I don't remmeber 01[08:05] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah we did [08:05] <Zephirdd> oh k 01[08:05] <Cheese_Sleep> he survived [08:05] <Zephirdd> so we have DCL as medic + 1 [08:05] <Zephirdd> that's 3 town medics [08:05] <Zephirdd> plus me as mafia medic 01[08:06] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah [08:07] <Zephirdd> holy crap three medics [08:07] <Zephirdd> thats a lot [08:07] <Zephirdd> they all must have limitations >_>" [08:07] <Zephirdd> or at least two of them [08:07] <Zephirdd> Kenpachi had [08:07] <Zephirdd> there should be a "Kenpachi-inverse" medic and a simple, pure doc [08:07] <Zephirdd> and the simple doc should be DCL [08:07] <Zephirdd> which would make Palmar a blue [08:07] <Zephirdd> holy shit that's a lot of assumptions lol [08:08] <Zephirdd> ... what is Palmar himself is a medic? 01[08:08] <Cheese_Sleep> hmm no dcl said something about not being a normal doc [08:08] <Zephirdd> oh 01[08:08] <Cheese_Sleep> medics cant usually self heal 01[08:08] <Cheese_Sleep> check the qt [08:08] <Zephirdd> I can [08:09] <Zephirdd> oh [08:09] <Zephirdd> nice find 01[08:09] <Cheese_Sleep> tyrran pointed it out somewhere 01[08:09] <Cheese_Sleep> lol [08:09] <Zephirdd> yeah, palmar seems a cop alright [08:11] <Zephirdd> I like how wbg is basically sure grey is town, he seems so... respectful to him [08:11] <Zephirdd> lol 01[08:11] <Cheese_Sleep> wbg has his list of 5 that hes following 01[08:11] <Cheese_Sleep> its pretty awesome 01[08:12] <Cheese_Sleep> best part is theyr the townies [08:13] <Zephirdd> wbg seems to be good at this [08:13] <Zephirdd> but he also seems sooo emotional over it [08:13] <Zephirdd> and in a logic game, emotions don't matter [08:13] <Zephirdd> :| [08:14] <Zephirdd> imo 01[08:14] <Cheese_Sleep> emotions dont mean much, but accused townies have a higher tendancy to get angry 01[08:15] <Cheese_Sleep> while scum is more likely to explain themselves 03[08:15] * Cheese_Sleep is now known as Cyber_Cheese 01[08:15] <Cyber_Cheese> man i wish there was a way to auto change my name when im afk 01[08:15] <Cyber_Cheese> thats one of the infamous vibes though [08:15] <Zephirdd> hmmm ChatZilla has a button for that 03[08:15] * Zephirdd is now known as ZephAFK 03[08:15] * ZephAFK is now known as Zephirdd 01[08:16] <Cyber_Cheese> ive been using mirc 01[08:16] <Cyber_Cheese> there might be an option somewhere 02[08:20] * /load: no such file 'C:\Users\Duggan\AppData\Roaming\mIRC\WPAFK.mrc' 02[08:21] * Loaded script 'C:\Users\Duggan\AppData\Roaming\mIRC\WPAFK.mrc' [08:21] - [08:21] {WPAFK} WhatPulse was not found in that directory [08:21] {WPAFK} Please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse [08:21] - [08:22] {WPAFK} WhatPulse file not found, please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse - [08:23] {WPAFK} WhatPulse file not found, please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse - [08:24] {WPAFK} WhatPulse was not found in that directory [08:24] {WPAFK} Please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse [08:24] - [08:24] {WPAFK} WhatPulse was not found in that directory [08:24] {WPAFK} Please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse [08:24] - [08:24] {WPAFK} WhatPulse file not found, please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse - [08:25] {WPAFK} WhatPulse file not found, please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse - [08:26] {WPAFK} WhatPulse file not found, please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse - [08:27] {WPAFK} WhatPulse file not found, please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse - [08:28] {WPAFK} WhatPulse file not found, please go to WhatPulse AFK menu -> All Networks -> Set Location Of WhatPulse - 02[08:29] * Unloaded script 'WPAFK.mrc' 01[08:31] <Cyber_Cheese> bah 01[08:31] <Cyber_Cheese> what a spammy script [08:31] <Zephirdd> lol 01[08:31] <Cyber_Cheese> might just get chatzilla 01[08:31] <Cyber_Cheese> oh 01[08:32] <Cyber_Cheese> firefox 01[08:32] <Cyber_Cheese> imma using mah chromes 01[08:32] <Cyber_Cheese> this is a problem [08:32] <Zephirdd> :< [08:43] <Zephirdd> must... not... reply to wbg... 01[08:43] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah his votes already on you 01[08:44] <Cyber_Cheese> stay in character [08:44] <Zephirdd> agh it's still annoying [08:44] <Zephirdd> every other post he says that [08:44] <Zephirdd> D: 01[08:45] <Cyber_Cheese> if your going to do stuff, do your uber cautious thing and defend a few townies today, also prod someone like you did chaoser 01[08:46] <Cyber_Cheese> imo 01[08:46] <Cyber_Cheese> i dont actually know if thats the best angle [08:47] <Zephirdd> I won't say anything else for today [08:47] <Zephirdd> (I'm also leaving in a few) 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> law low like sabin works well 01[08:47] <Cyber_Cheese> fair enough [08:51] <Zephirdd> I'm out [08:51] <Zephirdd> cya 01[08:51] <Cyber_Cheese> cya 02[08:52] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.72.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 03[09:14] * Cyber_Cheese is now known as AFK_Cheese Session Time: Sat Nov 26 00:00:00 2011 03[00:44] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.72.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips [00:55] <Zephirdd> so apparently xsksc is DT [00:56] <Zephirdd> nvm [00:56] <Zephirdd> xsksc is a reverse greymist [00:56] <Zephirdd> wat Session Close: Sat Nov 26 01:42:16 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 01:42:16 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[01:42] * Disconnected 02[02:04] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[02:04] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 01[02:04] <Cheese_Sleep> so sup 01[02:05] <Cheese_Sleep> claiming medic might not work now 01[02:05] <Cheese_Sleep> 3 of them !! fff 01[02:05] <Cheese_Sleep> claiming joat could work [02:05] <Zephirdd> another joat? 01[02:05] <Cheese_Sleep> another? [02:05] <Zephirdd> there was the necro guy [02:06] <Zephirdd> it he was a joat [02:06] <Zephirdd> also, there are three medics [02:06] <Zephirdd> four would be a problem [02:06] <Zephirdd> and I breadcumbed that there would be three medics [02:09] <Zephirdd> u there bro? .-. 01[02:10] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah im here 01[02:10] <Cheese_Sleep> prplhz was a bit difference 01[02:10] <Cheese_Sleep> bit difference 01[02:10] <Cheese_Sleep> different** 01[02:10] <Cheese_Sleep> hmm [02:11] <Zephirdd> dunno, restraining doc just seems to work 01[02:11] <Cheese_Sleep> how did you know all along? [02:11] <Zephirdd> that there were three more medics? 01[02:12] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah [02:12] <Zephirdd> DCL claims medic but didnt protect palmar [02:12] <Zephirdd> palmar claimed being hit [02:12] <Zephirdd> + Kenpachi [02:12] <Zephirdd> that's three 01[02:13] <Cheese_Sleep> tonight role-block palmar imo [02:13] <Zephirdd> okidokiloki 01[02:13] <Cheese_Sleep> we know who the dt is, why do it in a reactionary fashion [02:13] <Zephirdd> he would probably will be protected anyway 01[02:13] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah [02:13] <Zephirdd> lol my english 01[02:14] <Cheese_Sleep> save some kp, push for his death [02:14] <Zephirdd> he would probably be* [02:14] <Zephirdd> and I can claim to protect myself [02:14] <Zephirdd> oh yeah I have to include that [02:23] <Zephirdd> k Ill claim restraining doc 01[02:24] <Cheese_Sleep> hmm 01[02:24] <Cheese_Sleep> cool 01[02:24] <Cheese_Sleep> brb 01[02:24] <Cheese_Sleep> id still seriously consider calling vanilla instead but meh 01[02:25] <Cheese_Sleep> use the 'idoubt theres 3 medics' line Session Close: Sat Nov 26 02:25:19 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 02:25:19 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[02:25] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Nov 26 02:25:20 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 02:28:08 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 03[02:28] * Now talking in #mudkips 01[02:28] <Cheese_Sleep> kk 01[02:28] <Cheese_Sleep> sup 01[02:38] <Cheese_Sleep> playing payday the heist :D [02:40] <Zephirdd> whats that [02:40] <Zephirdd> :O 01[02:40] <Cheese_Sleep> some rand stamgame 01[02:40] <Cheese_Sleep> steam* 01[02:41] <Cheese_Sleep> its like left 4 dead 01[02:41] <Cheese_Sleep> except vs humans 01[02:41] <Cheese_Sleep> instead of mutants [02:45] <Zephirdd> lolz [02:45] <Zephirdd> Session Close: Sat Nov 26 02:56:09 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 02:56:09 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[02:56] * Disconnected 02[02:56] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[02:56] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[02:59] * Cheese_Sleep (Cheese_Sle@124-169-61-201.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout) [03:00] <Zephirdd> K [03:01] <Zephirdd> kill Lemonwalrus [03:01] <Zephirdd> no chance of letting him live this night [03:01] <Zephirdd> no [03:01] <Zephirdd> chance [03:01] <Zephirdd> at [03:01] <Zephirdd> all 03[03:05] * Zephirdd_ (~Zephirdd@189.26.72.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[03:08] <AFK_Cheese> hmm yeah 02[03:09] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.72.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[03:09] * Zephirdd_ is now known as Zephirdd 01[03:10] <AFK_Cheese> this could be a problem 01[03:10] <AFK_Cheese> palmars confirmed [03:11] <Zephirdd> yup [03:11] <Zephirdd> no problem with that imo [03:12] <Zephirdd> I'll roleblock him 01[03:13] <AFK_Cheese> hmm 01[03:13] <AFK_Cheese> we can argue lemons claim 01[03:13] <AFK_Cheese> but we have to kill palmar since they confirm each other [03:13] <Zephirdd> he was never suspected of being red this game [03:13] <Zephirdd> dnno if it would work [03:13] <Zephirdd> IMO both should just die 01[03:14] <AFK_Cheese> yeah both dying works fine 01[03:14] <AFK_Cheese> just double stack the medics tomorrow night instead [03:14] <Zephirdd> hugh xsksc's power is annoying tho [03:14] <Zephirdd> for each lynch, its one more protect [03:14] <Zephirdd> essentially the reverse greymist [03:14] <Zephirdd> hmmmm [03:14] <Zephirdd> what we could do [03:14] <Zephirdd> is to roleblock him [03:14] <Zephirdd> and shot lemon and palmar [03:15] <Zephirdd> + shot him with greymist [03:15] <Zephirdd> lemon/palmar powers are useless if they die [03:16] <Zephirdd> /facepalm how did I write doc there [03:20] <Zephirdd> k [03:20] <Zephirdd> need coag to double vote MrZentor [03:20] <Zephirdd> asap 01[03:47] <AFK_Cheese> coags already voted everyone 01[03:47] <AFK_Cheese> man this games really hard 01[03:47] <AFK_Cheese> roleblock xsksc is good idea [03:50] <Zephirdd> coag still has two secret votes [03:50] <Zephirdd> he is going to get modkilled anyways [03:50] <Zephirdd> might as well take someone with him [03:50] <Zephirdd> --' [03:50] <Zephirdd> also, forumite lynched [03:50] <Zephirdd> great [03:50] <Zephirdd> :D [03:52] <Zephirdd> also, this game is full of blues lol 01[03:53] <AFK_Cheese> throw a vote down on mrZ imo 01[03:54] <AFK_Cheese> get the lynch 01[03:54] <AFK_Cheese> actually [03:55] <Zephirdd> hugh... connections 01[03:55] <AFK_Cheese> i pmd sabin to do it [03:55] <Zephirdd> good [03:55] <Zephirdd> I'll do it if none of them did it by midnight [03:55] <Zephirdd> (which is 11 KST for me) 01[03:55] <AFK_Cheese> right before the lycnh 01[03:55] <AFK_Cheese> fair enough [03:56] <Zephirdd> Palmar's idea of asking people to claim [03:56] <Zephirdd> was the best thing that could happen to us [03:56] <Zephirdd> imo 01[03:56] <AFK_Cheese> yeah i reckon 01[03:56] <AFK_Cheese> what a fool [03:57] <Zephirdd> more like, tired of retards 01[03:57] <AFK_Cheese> the best part is he probably thinks it was a good move [03:57] <Zephirdd> lol [03:57] <Zephirdd> he seems really mad at people this game 01[03:57] <AFK_Cheese> hes going to be even more mad at the flips [03:57] <Zephirdd> haha [03:57] <Zephirdd> we need to go [03:57] <Zephirdd> PM him after the game 01[03:58] <AFK_Cheese> 11 vs 5 for night puts in lylo tomorrow pretty much [03:58] <Zephirdd> u mad bro? [03:58] <Zephirdd> LOLOLO 01[03:58] <AFK_Cheese> rofl im up for it [03:58] <Zephirdd> lylo? 01[03:58] <AFK_Cheese> lynch or lose [03:58] <Zephirdd> oh i c [03:58] <Zephirdd> that is [03:58] <Zephirdd> if coag isn't modkilled [03:58] <Zephirdd> >_> 01[03:58] <AFK_Cheese> if coag has his smokebomb, we win 01[03:58] <AFK_Cheese> yeah [03:58] <Zephirdd> I hope they find some replacement for him [03:59] <Zephirdd> maybe GMarshal [03:59] <Zephirdd> he said to be watching the game [03:59] <Zephirdd> and refused to say anything about it because of Zona's rules 01[03:59] <AFK_Cheese> hes busy running the other game so i wouldnt count on it [03:59] <Zephirdd> (which I hadn't read that part) [03:59] <Zephirdd> oh =( 01[03:59] <AFK_Cheese> but we can hope [04:00] <Zephirdd> in a sense [04:00] <Zephirdd> Lanaia's votes sound scary 01[04:00] <AFK_Cheese> yeah [04:00] <Zephirdd> esp when there are so few townies 01[04:00] <AFK_Cheese> lanaia, xsksc, doublestack palmar, lemonwalrus [04:00] <Zephirdd> yeah pretty much [04:01] <Zephirdd> no wait [04:01] <Zephirdd> DCL actually voted palmar [04:01] <Zephirdd> maybe he is a doc that can protect someone he voted [04:01] <Zephirdd> gotta wait to see his claim [04:02] <Zephirdd> hmmm [04:02] <Zephirdd> so [04:02] <Zephirdd> much [04:02] <Zephirdd> wifom [04:02] <Zephirdd> x_x 01[04:02] <AFK_Cheese> yeah :/ 01[04:02] <AFK_Cheese> thats probably his role [04:03] <Zephirdd> RoL may be blue [04:26] <Zephirdd> mfw wherebugsgo is on the other mafia too [04:26] <Zephirdd> .-. 01[04:26] <AFK_Cheese> yeah greymists in the other game too 01[04:27] <AFK_Cheese> i think palmar is [04:27] <Zephirdd> :O 01[04:27] <AFK_Cheese> mebbe some others [04:27] <Zephirdd> that explains palmar's behavior 01[04:27] <AFK_Cheese> im not [04:27] <Zephirdd> ffs so many people joining the other game t_t 01[04:27] <AFK_Cheese> just followed it a little 01[04:27] <AFK_Cheese> town obsessive stalker was my roleclaim btw 01[04:28] <AFK_Cheese> lets not fix that [04:28] <Zephirdd> jesus christ lol 01[04:28] <AFK_Cheese> dont bother fixing it 03[04:32] * AFK_Cheese is now known as Cyber_Cheese 01[05:16] <Cyber_Cheese> any idea if he secret voted? [05:16] <Zephirdd> nope 01[05:16] <Cyber_Cheese> man i wish someone active had that ability 01[05:17] <Cyber_Cheese> or at least sabin because hes putting a small amount of effort in [05:17] <Zephirdd> :< [06:19] <Zephirdd> oh well [06:19] <Zephirdd> mrZentor got lynched [06:19] <Zephirdd> k 01[06:27] <Cyber_Cheese> interesting 01[06:28] <Cyber_Cheese> if he didnt put down his secret votes its too late now [06:30] <Zephirdd> yeah [06:31] <Zephirdd> :\ [06:31] <Zephirdd> well, Sabin gets lynched [06:31] <Zephirdd> thats ONE more kill for us [06:31] <Zephirdd> even if its one less mafia 01[06:32] <Cyber_Cheese> DCLXVI hasnt claimed yet 01[06:32] <Cyber_Cheese> hmmm id rather not lose sabin if i can avoid it, and yet at the same time the town cred from being on his lynch is pretty good 01[06:32] <Cyber_Cheese> thing is if it makes the game go longer that could mean trouble [06:33] <Zephirdd> I'll support it [06:33] <Zephirdd> its one more shot 01[06:33] <Cyber_Cheese> one for one and town cred hmm 01[06:34] <Cyber_Cheese> we're not allowed to ask zona about other players abilities 01[06:34] <Cyber_Cheese> itd look incredibly scummy to ask which person is healed if multiple are attacked [06:34] <Zephirdd> with it we could, say, shot hyshes 01[06:38] <Cyber_Cheese> kill lemon/palmar and double hit xsksc brings it to 13, save DCLXVI/lanaia for if they alive tomorrow night, kill a third person, probably wbg or tyrran imo 01[06:38] <Cyber_Cheese> leave some blues alive so grey can target them in future 01[06:38] <Cyber_Cheese> by 13 i mean 8v5 [06:39] <Zephirdd> hmmm [06:39] <Zephirdd> why double hit xsk? 01[06:39] <Cyber_Cheese> hes a medic who can watch many people 01[06:39] <Cyber_Cheese> whatever dclxvi does, hes likely to be on you 01[06:39] <Cyber_Cheese> on xsksc* [06:40] <Zephirdd> he can't 01[06:40] <Cyber_Cheese> he cant? [06:41] <Zephirdd> see thread [06:42] <Zephirdd> I also did that to basically remind DCL to not protect him lol 01[06:44] <Cyber_Cheese> huh? 01[06:44] <Cyber_Cheese> that means xskscs protects 01[06:44] <Cyber_Cheese> not whatever dclxvi 01[06:44] <Cyber_Cheese> can do 01[06:46] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[06:46] <Cyber_Cheese> i have a plan to confirm my townness 01[06:47] <Cyber_Cheese> but it involves bussing you 01[06:47] <Cyber_Cheese> so im hesitant 01[06:47] <Cyber_Cheese> also it wont make sense that i survive the next night probably [06:47] <Zephirdd> well, mafia can always run out of KP [06:47] <Zephirdd> lol 01[06:47] <Cyber_Cheese> essentially I ask you why you protected xsksc despite knowing it would roleblock 01[06:48] <Cyber_Cheese> its probably a good move, but at the same time that leaves me with lonely nights 01[06:48] <Cyber_Cheese> unless you specifically tell me to i wont anyway [06:48] <Zephirdd> whaaa nooooooo [06:49] <Zephirdd> part of the defense I'm thinking about involves not protecting him [06:49] <Zephirdd> as in "I wanted him to protect others" 01[06:50] <Cyber_Cheese> youve claimed a town roleblocked and fourth doctor when theres two people who claimed doc already, one who soft claimed it, and a dead town roleblocker 01[06:51] <Cyber_Cheese> just saying its less convincing than just calling vanilla [06:51] <Zephirdd> I know [06:51] <Zephirdd> the idea would be to use it as a way to possibly get cred from someone [06:51] <Zephirdd> say, shot lanaia -> protect lanaia [06:51] <Zephirdd> she goes "omg I was hit" [06:51] <Zephirdd> yeah I totally saved your ass 01[06:52] <Cyber_Cheese> actually 01[06:52] <Cyber_Cheese> thats a good idea 01[06:52] <Cyber_Cheese> we only really need three nightkills at this point 01[06:52] <Cyber_Cheese> she'd get the roleblock too [06:52] <Zephirdd> look ast xsk's role power 01[06:52] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah i saw [06:52] <Zephirdd> that means I don't really need to roleblock him 01[06:52] <Cyber_Cheese> thats an interesting limitation 01[06:53] <Cyber_Cheese> wait 01[06:53] <Cyber_Cheese> lanaia would get a message for both a heal and a roleblock 01[06:53] <Cyber_Cheese> and you cant do both [06:53] <Zephirdd> but she doesnt has a night action [06:53] <Zephirdd> she gets a msg for roleblock anyways? [06:53] <Zephirdd> darn 01[06:54] <Cyber_Cheese> If a player, regardless of role, is roleblocked during the night, he or she will receive this message: [06:54] <Zephirdd> yeah [06:54] <Zephirdd> well [06:54] <Zephirdd> back to original plan [06:54] <Zephirdd> LOL I saved my ass 01[06:54] <Cyber_Cheese> haha lanaia just unvoted scum [06:54] <Zephirdd> yeah [06:54] <Zephirdd> lolz 01[06:55] <Cyber_Cheese> hmmm 01[06:55] <Cyber_Cheese> imo you shouldnt have asked about his heal mechanic 01[06:55] <Cyber_Cheese> just mentioned it seemed scummy to ask about something you didnt need to know [06:56] <Zephirdd> :S 01[06:56] <Cyber_Cheese> *wbg had already asked* [06:57] <Zephirdd> well 01[06:57] <Cyber_Cheese> wait for the reply and then chip in a bit too late [06:57] <Zephirdd> I didnt see either [06:57] <Zephirdd> *needs moar f5* 01[06:57] <Cyber_Cheese> what a beautiful button [06:58] <Zephirdd> everyone was overlapping each other there tho [06:58] <Zephirdd> lol [07:00] <Zephirdd> also, I can't protect xsk [07:00] <Zephirdd> wait [07:00] <Zephirdd> how would that work [07:00] <Zephirdd> LOL 01[07:01] <Cyber_Cheese> ? [07:01] <Zephirdd> if he protects someone => cant be protected / if he is roleblock => cant protect [07:01] <Zephirdd> if he is roleblock => can be protected [07:01] <Zephirdd> a k 01[07:01] <Cyber_Cheese> you mean my qt post for night actions? [07:02] <Zephirdd> nah random brainstorming 01[07:02] <Cyber_Cheese> if multiple people he protects are hit, the protect doesnt work, so maybe we want to double-stack anyway just in case.... 01[07:03] <Cyber_Cheese> :/ [07:03] <Zephirdd> the problem would be if he only targets one of our targets 01[07:04] <Cyber_Cheese> i think we're better off spreading out fire out and hoping he does 01[07:04] <Cyber_Cheese> prot multiple [07:04] <Zephirdd> y 01[07:04] <Cyber_Cheese> 5 targets > double stacking 2 [07:05] <Zephirdd> grey gave a great idea for your track 01[07:07] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[07:07] <Cyber_Cheese> see noone else claimed tracker or watcher anyway 01[07:07] <Cyber_Cheese> so it doesnt really matter [07:08] <Zephirdd> kenpachi was the watcher 01[07:08] <Cyber_Cheese> if im lying or not 01[07:08] <Cyber_Cheese> well 01[07:08] <Cyber_Cheese> noone living 01[07:08] <Cyber_Cheese> [07:10] <Zephirdd> 01[07:14] <Cyber_Cheese> if the answer to that modkill counting as lynch question is no, we should try and get coagulation lynched 01[07:15] <Cyber_Cheese> assuming he cant be replaced anyway [07:15] <Zephirdd> nah [07:15] <Zephirdd> wont work 03[08:03] * Zephirdd is now known as ZephAFK 01[08:03] <Cyber_Cheese> noticed you didnt put coag down as no claim, modkill in that list like you did kibibit Session Close: Sat Nov 26 09:20:39 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 09:20:39 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[09:20] * Disconnected 02[09:20] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[09:20] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[09:24] * Cyber_Cheese (Cheese_Sle@58-7-209-148.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[09:49] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mudkips 01[09:50] <Cheese_Sleep> sup [09:50] <GreYMisT> It will not look good if sabin and coag both die tonight [09:50] <GreYMisT> i would like us to try and make their lynch hold off until at least tomorrow so i can contribute to the case against them 01[09:52] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah 01[09:52] <Cheese_Sleep> last second bandwagoning wont count for much 01[09:52] <Cheese_Sleep> you make the sabin bus and ill restate some reasons to hit coag imo [09:53] <GreYMisT> coag might die tonight [09:53] <GreYMisT> im not sure if there is much i can do to stop it 01[09:54] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah 01[09:54] <Cheese_Sleep> im just hoping he found a replacement [09:54] <GreYMisT> yea, there is no way to save coag tonight and not make myself look bad [09:54] <GreYMisT> im going to give the ok to kill him [09:54] <GreYMisT> alright with that? 01[09:55] <Cheese_Sleep> sure why not [09:55] <GreYMisT> cool 01[09:56] <Cheese_Sleep> we're probably better off with +1 kp overnight than trying to save him and losing cred [10:04] <GreYMisT> OHHHH fuck [10:04] <GreYMisT> cheese you might be in some trouble [10:07] <GreYMisT> khibbit just flipped tracker, be ready to explain why you are one as well. 02[10:19] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 03[10:34] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mudkips 01[10:38] <Cheese_Sleep> hmm yeah we should have bussed coag and sabin today :/ [10:42] <ZephAFK> Oh well 03[10:42] * ZephAFK is now known as Zephirdd [10:46] <GreYMisT> the way i see it i have about a 40% chance to get out of the WBG tunnel 01[10:46] <Cheese_Sleep> you should be alright 01[10:46] <Cheese_Sleep> just bus me [10:46] <GreYMisT> it depends on how much i have been able to convince everyone else in the thread [10:46] <GreYMisT> aside from wbg 01[10:47] <Cheese_Sleep> or we could kill wbg? [10:47] <GreYMisT> it is them i have to convince, not hime [10:47] <GreYMisT> hmm [10:47] <GreYMisT> do it [10:47] <GreYMisT> instead of palmar, both you and zeph shoot WBG [10:48] <Zephirdd> wbg? [10:48] <Zephirdd> why wbg? [10:48] <Zephirdd> :O [10:49] <GreYMisT> we should have killed him earlier [10:49] <GreYMisT> his death will allow me to buss cyber easier [10:49] <GreYMisT> as well as sabin 01[10:50] <Cheese_Sleep> ok [10:50] <Zephirdd> hmm [10:50] <Zephirdd> okay [10:50] <GreYMisT> I can use WIFOM to escape any finger pointing that results from night kills 01[10:50] <Cheese_Sleep> now do i seperate myself from you 01[10:50] <Cheese_Sleep> or protect you grey [10:50] <GreYMisT> we are already separated [10:50] <GreYMisT> i think 01[10:50] <Cheese_Sleep> eg would it be seen as seperation or protection [10:50] <GreYMisT> let me think one sec 01[10:50] <Cheese_Sleep> yeah but wbg is wanting to lynch 5 people [10:51] <GreYMisT> ok here is what goes down i think 01[10:51] <Cheese_Sleep> im the one likeliest to die tomorrow, so it's your call [10:51] <Zephirdd> "Also, are we still with the night 2 policy where nobody posted anything to reduce information from mafia? That surely was one hell of a slow night." [10:51] <GreYMisT> you attack the shit out of WBG for wanting to do that, like OMGUS galore [10:51] <Zephirdd> is this scummy? [10:51] <Zephirdd> >_> [10:51] <GreYMisT> dont post that, no need [10:52] <Zephirdd> I was going to post the updated list of claimed roles [10:52] <Zephirdd> oh well [10:52] <GreYMisT> just say "updating the list" or whatever [10:52] <GreYMisT> anyway, here is what i think, im still working a bit on it [10:53] <GreYMisT> cheese do what i said and OMGUS wbg hard [10:53] <GreYMisT> ill go along with it "for the good of the town" and all that [10:53] <Zephirdd> also wtf so many vanilla [10:53] <Zephirdd> -_- [10:53] <GreYMisT> when WBG dies ill incriminate you for reacting so harshly against him [10:53] <Zephirdd> although its good for grey's role that greens die [10:53] <GreYMisT> and claiming tracker 01[10:53] <Cheese_Sleep> kk [10:54] <GreYMisT> the OMGUSing takes place in the night btw [10:54] <GreYMisT> before he ies 01[10:54] <Cheese_Sleep> im not too good at omgus [10:54] <GreYMisT> dies* [10:54] <GreYMisT> just argue with everything he says [10:54] <GreYMisT> is what i mean [10:54] <Zephirdd> in a sense, cheese basically has no useful ability anyways lolz [10:54] <Zephirdd> not on the current state of the game at least xD [10:54] <GreYMisT> zeph, you need to Roleblock lanaia like you said [10:55] <Zephirdd> hmmm [10:55] <GreYMisT> i really dont want to bus everyone of you [10:56] <GreYMisT> with WBG hopefully dead, we have mainly palmar to contend with,and i think he has given up [10:56] <GreYMisT> plus he has a slight town read on me i think/thinks im bad [10:56] <GreYMisT> so i have that going for me [10:56] <Zephirdd> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=112#2230 [10:56] <Zephirdd> this post [10:57] <Zephirdd> makes me uncomfortable [10:58] <Zephirdd> I also like how the best player in this game [10:58] <Zephirdd> is wbg [10:58] <Zephirdd> lol [10:58] <Zephirdd> he nailed almost everything [10:58] <GreYMisT> hopefully no one notices that post [10:58] <GreYMisT> but it shouldnt be a big deal; [10:59] <GreYMisT> i mean its just your word as a restraining doctor vs his thought of a RB [11:00] <Zephirdd> yeah [11:00] <Zephirdd> [11:00] <Zephirdd> also [11:00] <Zephirdd> "why the fuck would he roleblock someone without night actions" amirite [11:05] <GreYMisT> exactly [11:05] <GreYMisT> we're basically in crunch time here people [11:05] <Zephirdd> okidokiloki [11:06] <Zephirdd> kill wbg, roleblock lanaia [11:06] <Zephirdd> incoming [11:07] <GreYMisT> here is the way i see the gameplaying out [11:07] <GreYMisT> you can probally get confirmed jailer off your roleblock tonight [11:08] <GreYMisT> i will probally either die this coming day or the next [11:08] <GreYMisT> cyber cheese and sabin probally have to die this coming day [11:08] <Zephirdd> why do you think so? [11:08] <GreYMisT> for what? [11:09] <Zephirdd> that you will die [11:09] <Zephirdd> also, anyone else finds it odd that I am a doctor... and there is no vigilante yet? [11:10] <GreYMisT> WBG's argument is too good. with him dead i can probally stall it another day tops, but eventually people will catch on [11:10] <GreYMisT> Vig probally is amoung those not claimed [11:10] <Zephirdd> I see [11:10] <Zephirdd> bumatlarge has not claimed [11:10] <GreYMisT> he would be the vig, haha [11:10] <Zephirdd> and I think wbg is actually a vig [11:10] <Zephirdd> unless there is some odd doc/vig mixup for DCL [11:10] <GreYMisT> maybe he is cpr doc [11:10] <GreYMisT> who knows [11:10] <GreYMisT> anyway [11:10] <Zephirdd> oh, and there is RebirthOfLegend [11:11] <Zephirdd> he is TOWN, but no one knows his role [11:11] <GreYMisT> right [11:11] <GreYMisT> Ok, if a vig does exist, one of 2 things might happen [11:11] <GreYMisT> well 3 things might, but only 2 concern you [11:12] <GreYMisT> if I die to the vig, you have to bus cyber [11:12] <GreYMisT> if cyber dies, you will have to bus me [11:12] <Zephirdd> okay [11:12] <Zephirdd> and if I die well... good luck for you [11:12] <Zephirdd> lol [11:12] <GreYMisT> yea thats the one you dont have to worry about [11:12] <Zephirdd> would be funny if Lanaia or DCL actually died [11:12] <GreYMisT> yea [11:12] <GreYMisT> indeed [11:13] <GreYMisT> ill walk you though the second senario [11:13] <GreYMisT> if you need to bus mee [11:13] <Zephirdd> Okay [11:13] <GreYMisT> busing cyber should be easy enough [11:14] <Zephirdd> lol [11:14] <GreYMisT> anyway, your goal this coming day needs to be confirming yourself as town. dont make it obvious, but when lanaia comes out and says she was RBed, say that you protected her that night, and figured it was safe because she didnt claim to be able to act at night [11:14] <GreYMisT> thereby eliminating the con of your role [11:15] <Zephirdd> that was my idea [11:15] <GreYMisT> yea [11:15] <GreYMisT> wait for her to claim it though [11:15] <GreYMisT> or claim it happened if you start getting votes [11:15] <Zephirdd> okay [11:16] <Zephirdd> if we hit all five, there will be what... 13 players tomorrow [11:16] <GreYMisT> 9 [11:16] <Zephirdd> which means we will have 7 votes wth [11:16] <GreYMisT> there are 14 players alive now [11:16] <Zephirdd> oh wait [11:16] <Zephirdd> you're right [11:16] <Zephirdd> Holy shit [11:16] <Zephirdd> 9 = 5 for a lynch [11:16] <GreYMisT> 5 to lynch [11:16] <Zephirdd> and Lanaia has three votes [11:16] <Zephirdd> Holy shit [11:17] <GreYMisT> this is looking ahead a bit, but the day after next, you will probally need to bus me [11:17] <Zephirdd> Lanaia will basically control the game lol [11:17] <Zephirdd> hopefully we can kill two towns tomorrow [11:17] <GreYMisT> because we will ahve to kill lanaia the next night [11:17] <Zephirdd> and only two towns [11:17] <Zephirdd> and then we win by default [11:18] <GreYMisT> Hopefully i can get WBG to provide his analysis of lanaia, so you can use it after he has died [11:18] <GreYMisT> thats why i asked for it [11:18] <Zephirdd> hmm I see [11:22] <GreYMisT> how easy this game is will be determined by how many people believe WBG [11:22] <GreYMisT> with him dead i think i can lower that number [11:22] <GreYMisT> basically I need to pull another TMMM [11:22] <GreYMisT> out of my hat [11:22] <GreYMisT> but this time the roles are reversed [11:23] <Zephirdd> TMMM? [11:23] <GreYMisT> team melee mini mafia [11:23] <Zephirdd> lol did you win? :D [11:23] <GreYMisT> ea [11:24] <GreYMisT> we honestly shouldnt have, but LYLO came down to me vs WBG. and i convinced the other people that i was town and town won [11:24] <GreYMisT> it was an...unique game [11:25] <Zephirdd> rofl [11:25] <Zephirdd> wbg was scum then [11:25] <Zephirdd> interesting how the roles are reversed at this point [11:25] <Zephirdd> xD [11:26] <GreYMisT> indeed [11:26] <GreYMisT> my goal is to act like i did in that senario [11:27] <GreYMisT> and hope it comes out ok [11:27] <GreYMisT> problem is WBG will have logic on his side [11:27] <GreYMisT> the good news is, with him dead, and if cheese does what he should do, i should be able to push the blame to him [11:28] <Zephirdd> great [11:28] <Zephirdd> lol [11:28] <GreYMisT> anyways, im off. im going to post what our plan is in the QT, for the purpose of refering back to it and for the post game [11:29] <GreYMisT> yaya [11:29] <Zephirdd> cya~ 02[11:34] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout) 02[12:09] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.72.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) Session Close: Sat Nov 26 14:03:37 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 14:03:37 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[14:03] * Disconnected 02[14:04] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[14:04] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[14:05] * Cheese_Sleep (Cheese_Sle@58-7-209-148.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Session Close: Sat Nov 26 15:28:22 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 15:28:22 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[15:28] * Disconnected 02[15:48] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[15:48] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Close: Sat Nov 26 17:51:42 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 17:51:42 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[17:51] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Nov 26 17:51:42 2011 Session Start: Sat Nov 26 20:40:11 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 03[20:40] * Now talking in #mudkips 01[20:40] <Cyber_Cheese> did i miss any logs? 03[22:09] * Zephirdd_ (~Zephirdd@189.114.243.65) has joined #mudkips 02[22:12] * @Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.72.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[22:12] * Zephirdd_ is now known as Zephirdd Session Time: Sun Nov 27 00:00:00 2011 03[00:25] * Zephirdd_ (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 02[00:28] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.243.65) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[00:28] * Zephirdd_ is now known as Zephirdd 02[00:40] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 03[09:01] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[09:03] <Cyber_Cheese> howdy [09:04] <Zephirdd> hiya [09:04] <Zephirdd> seen QT? 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah [09:04] <Zephirdd> so [09:04] <Zephirdd> your call [09:04] <Zephirdd> should we go double on wbg? [09:04] <Zephirdd> him dieing is very important 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> well, im not sure if we want the others to die [09:04] <Zephirdd> wha [09:04] <Zephirdd> oh you mean DCL 01[09:04] <Cyber_Cheese> most of the people i would shoot would be confirming some of palmars checks [09:05] <Zephirdd> Lanaia would be a nice shot 01[09:05] <Cyber_Cheese> though killing bumatlarge seems best imo [09:05] <Zephirdd> even if we lose my "roleblock" claim thing 01[09:05] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm yeah but then you dont have the rb thing going [09:05] <Zephirdd> bumatlarge or RoL are likely to be vigi's 01[09:06] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm [09:06] <Zephirdd> RoL is confirmed town too, so he is a nice target 01[09:06] <Cyber_Cheese> it frees up the rb to use elsewhere 01[09:06] <Cyber_Cheese> change your shot if you want [09:06] <Zephirdd> I don't really have any other rb target at this point 01[09:06] <Cyber_Cheese> just as long as you can make sense of your night actions, I like them 01[09:06] <Cyber_Cheese> DCLXVI? [09:06] <Zephirdd> well, he has like zero cred at this point 01[09:07] <Cyber_Cheese> we dont know how his heal works [09:07] <Zephirdd> hmmm [09:07] <Zephirdd> maybe stick with the plan [09:07] <Zephirdd> and shoot RoL 01[09:07] <Cyber_Cheese> shooting rol works by me [09:08] <Zephirdd> 52min to go [09:08] <Zephirdd> is grey online? 01[09:08] <Cyber_Cheese> not sure 01[09:08] <Cyber_Cheese> tl pm him [09:11] <Zephirdd> I dont think so 01[09:20] <Cyber_Cheese> we might be better off with more living suspects 01[09:20] <Cyber_Cheese> we should be able to win tomorrow night [09:31] <Zephirdd> Grey is online [09:32] <Zephirdd> I'll ask him what he thinks about the RoL shot [09:33] <Zephirdd> darn grey sending the responsibility to me [09:33] <Zephirdd> WBG might certainly be protected he said [09:33] <Zephirdd> meh, stick with the old plan 01[09:34] <Cyber_Cheese> nah take a second shot imo 01[09:34] <Cyber_Cheese> shoot rol [09:34] <Zephirdd> k [09:36] <Zephirdd> shot [09:36] <Zephirdd> waiting for the ZBot confirmation [09:36] <Zephirdd> (would suck if it didnt take it by the end of the night lol 01[09:37] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah lol 01[09:38] <Cyber_Cheese> but i think zbot resolves all the shots and tells zona who to flip so [09:39] <Zephirdd> confirmed order 01[09:39] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[09:39] <Cyber_Cheese> check qt 01[09:40] <Cyber_Cheese> in about 30s [09:42] <Zephirdd> what is a PGO? [09:44] <Zephirdd> paranoid gun owner [09:44] <Zephirdd> nvm [09:44] <Zephirdd> 01[09:45] <Cyber_Cheese> yea [09:46] <Zephirdd> the post seems fine to me, but I'm afraid I could have missed something [09:47] <Zephirdd> I'd find it odd that you would go against every "town" [09:47] <Zephirdd> but that's to give space for grey to go over you right? 01[09:48] <Cyber_Cheese> im not sure 01[09:48] <Cyber_Cheese> im just questioning things [09:48] <Zephirdd> seems fine enough to me [09:49] <Zephirdd> will be awkward when all the dead flip 01[09:49] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah 01[09:49] <Cyber_Cheese> the idea is to make me not know they were going to flip [09:49] <Zephirdd> yeah [09:49] <Zephirdd> go ahead [09:49] <Zephirdd> makes sense to me 01[09:49] <Cyber_Cheese> if i can argue against greymist well it makes him look better for catching me 01[09:49] <Cyber_Cheese> ill do it in 6 mins [09:49] <Zephirdd> wait 01[09:50] <Cyber_Cheese> eg if im scum fitting in well i look good 01[09:50] <Cyber_Cheese> then if i get caught greymist is an hero [09:50] <Zephirdd> Cyber_Cheese [09:50] <Zephirdd> DCLXVI [09:50] <Zephirdd> GreYMisT [09:50] <Zephirdd> Lanaia [09:50] <Zephirdd> Palmar [09:51] <Zephirdd> Sabin010 [09:51] <Zephirdd> Tyrran [09:51] <Zephirdd> Zephirdd [09:51] <Zephirdd> bumatlarge [09:51] <Zephirdd> this the list [09:51] <Zephirdd> in case all shots hit [09:51] <Zephirdd> (not counting possible vigi) [09:51] <Zephirdd> 4 of these have to be "mafia" 01[09:51] <Cyber_Cheese> oh damn [09:52] <Zephirdd> I just realized that if a vigi shot hits a town [09:52] <Zephirdd> we win [09:52] <Zephirdd> LOL [09:52] <Zephirdd> unlikely tho 01[09:52] <Cyber_Cheese> we can hope 01[09:53] <Cyber_Cheese> man thatd be one insane night 01[09:53] <Cyber_Cheese> it can still go very wrong though [09:53] <Zephirdd> yeah [09:53] <Zephirdd> well, should it hit mafia, it has to hit me or sabin [09:54] <Zephirdd> if it his sabin, he was a goon anyways 01[09:54] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah, sabin is an obvious choice [09:54] <Zephirdd> if it hits me then it's your problem LOLOLO 01[09:54] <Cyber_Cheese> maybe healing him would be good i dunno [09:55] <Zephirdd> not now [09:55] <Zephirdd> I went with the rb plan 01[09:55] <Cyber_Cheese> too late [09:55] <Zephirdd> also 5min 01[09:55] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah 01[09:55] <Cyber_Cheese> posting [09:56] <Zephirdd> okidokilokiu [09:56] <Zephirdd> let's see how it goes [09:56] <Zephirdd> if my wifom is right and xsksc did what wbg asked for [09:56] <Zephirdd> we should get five kills [09:57] <Zephirdd> lol 3min and f5 time [09:57] <Zephirdd> XD [09:57] <Zephirdd> I don't think I was awake for any night so far [09:59] <Zephirdd> huh oh [10:05] <Zephirdd> hugh F5F5F5F5 01[10:06] <Cyber_Cheese> nah its cool 01[10:06] <Cyber_Cheese> i got the accusation out there 01[10:06] <Cyber_Cheese> its enough [10:06] <Zephirdd> y 01[10:06] <Cyber_Cheese> im going to be alive anyway 01[10:06] <Cyber_Cheese> i can follow it up [10:07] <Zephirdd> good grace, Lanaia could vote three times on someone and all that would be needed are two more votes [10:07] <Zephirdd> and the guy is dead [10:07] <Zephirdd> lol! [10:07] <Zephirdd> also, 48hr day incoming 01[10:07] <Cyber_Cheese> the objective of the game is convincing lanaia to vote incorrectly then [10:07] <Zephirdd> yup 01[10:08] <Cyber_Cheese> finally a shorter day 01[10:08] <Cyber_Cheese> and its shipping up to be the last one [10:08] <Zephirdd> 01[10:08] <Cyber_Cheese> not that i hate winning or anything [10:09] <Zephirdd> I found this game funny [10:09] <Zephirdd> as hell [10:09] <Zephirdd> must have sucked for experienced townies [10:09] <Zephirdd> and I probably won't be able to play like I did ever again [10:09] <Zephirdd> because, well, I won't be a new meat anymore [10:09] <Zephirdd> but it was awesome [10:10] <Zephirdd> [10:11] <Zephirdd> lol @ wbg [10:11] <Zephirdd> is he always like that? [10:12] <Zephirdd> >_> 01[10:12] <Cyber_Cheese> haha [10:14] <Zephirdd> you know what [10:14] <Zephirdd> hopefully [10:14] <Zephirdd> DCL uses his medic power on Lanaia [10:15] <Zephirdd> and bum/RoL(whoever the vigi is) shots DCL [10:15] <Zephirdd> that'd be auto-win [10:15] <Zephirdd> lol [10:15] <Zephirdd> literally 01[10:15] <Cyber_Cheese> if only 01[10:16] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[10:16] <Cyber_Cheese> if all our hits go through 01[10:16] <Cyber_Cheese> were very unlikely to lose 01[10:16] <Cyber_Cheese> wait 01[10:16] <Cyber_Cheese> shit 01[10:16] <Cyber_Cheese> dcl healed xsksc 01[10:16] <Cyber_Cheese> how did we overlook that 01[10:17] <Cyber_Cheese> wait no 01[10:17] <Cyber_Cheese> someone else didnt die [10:17] <Zephirdd> what 01[10:17] <Cyber_Cheese> 4 kills [10:17] <Zephirdd> who didnt [10:17] <Zephirdd> one of grey's shots [10:18] <Zephirdd> LEMONWALRUS [10:18] <Zephirdd> HOLY SHIT 01[10:18] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[10:18] <Cyber_Cheese> thats not so bad 01[10:18] <Cyber_Cheese> maybe [10:18] <Zephirdd> I dont like him alive [10:18] <Zephirdd> at all [10:18] <Zephirdd> I dont dont dont dont like him alive [10:18] <Zephirdd> but that means xsksc protected him [10:18] <Zephirdd> (or dcl) 03[10:19] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mudkips [10:19] <Zephirdd> so [10:19] <Zephirdd> Lemon is alive [10:19] <GreYMisT> cyber im sorry it had to come to this 01[10:19] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah its cool [10:20] <GreYMisT> but you must die [10:20] <Zephirdd> and my wifom worked 01[10:20] <Cyber_Cheese> ill do my best to look town [10:20] <GreYMisT> to feed my life 01[10:20] <Cyber_Cheese> kill an even amount of townies/mafia today 01[10:20] <Cyber_Cheese> use the 2 kp + greymists ability 01[10:20] <Cyber_Cheese> easy win [10:20] <GreYMisT> and now it is time to attack the shit out of you [10:20] <Zephirdd> also [10:20] <Zephirdd> there is no vigi for town [10:20] <GreYMisT> zeph wait until lanaia hopefully claims the rb [10:20] <GreYMisT> apparently 01[10:21] <Cyber_Cheese> 4v6, two kills puts us ahead [10:21] <GreYMisT> its good that palmar has not voted me 01[10:21] <Cyber_Cheese> gives us victoy* 01[10:21] <Cyber_Cheese> as long as you two live we should be fine 01[10:21] <Cyber_Cheese> lynch me a townie and maybe sabin, rb dclxvi if he didnt die and we win [10:22] <GreYMisT> we can prob lynch dclxvi because of claiming mason [10:22] <GreYMisT> as well as you and sabin [10:22] <Zephirdd> miller* [10:22] <GreYMisT> whatever [10:22] <GreYMisT> both start with m [10:23] <Zephirdd> lol [10:23] <Zephirdd> XD [10:24] <Zephirdd> doesnt make sense that I'm a doc tho [10:24] <Zephirdd> with no vigis [10:24] <GreYMisT> makes us think there might be [10:28] <Zephirdd> true [10:28] <Zephirdd> lol 01[10:30] <Cyber_Cheese> hmmm this doesnt make sense 01[10:30] <Cyber_Cheese> my dads laptop 01[10:30] <Cyber_Cheese> black screen after login 01[10:30] <Cyber_Cheese> with cursor 01[10:30] <Cyber_Cheese> no task manager, no explorer, but both safe modes work 01[10:31] <Cyber_Cheese> video card driver rollback not working as a fix, nor the latest version 01[10:33] <Cyber_Cheese> yo greymist, call it distancing that i recommend killing dclxvi and sabin 01[10:34] <Cyber_Cheese> ive got a bit to do, ill write up and get serious about lynching palmar today 01[10:34] <Cyber_Cheese> if i hang up the discussion in me vs him, the other lynches are less thought out [10:34] <GreYMisT> i will later. attack my reasoning because DCLXVI and sabi didnt die, but you mentioned them 01[10:35] <Cyber_Cheese> k 01[10:38] <Cyber_Cheese> 'Only about people who died today? The only deaths were Xsksc and WBG' 01[10:38] <Cyber_Cheese> ? [10:38] <GreYMisT> in reference to my post? 01[10:38] <Cyber_Cheese> yeah [10:38] <GreYMisT> i said only "really talked about" [10:38] <GreYMisT> that qualifyer is the key 01[10:39] <Cyber_Cheese> so 01[10:39] <Cyber_Cheese> palmar and wbg [10:39] <GreYMisT> i can argue that although you talked about other players, your goal and focus in that post was on xsksc and wbg [10:39] <GreYMisT> as well as palmar [10:39] <GreYMisT> and there is my sabin analysis [10:40] <GreYMisT> well the wheels are in motion, time to see if the machine runs properly 01[10:40] <Cyber_Cheese> when lemon claims a hit, mention that i expected lemon to be dead and noted him as townie 01[10:40] <Cyber_Cheese> thats why i forgot to add the post below it into the original [10:40] <GreYMisT> that might get a bit too WIFOMy for me [10:40] <GreYMisT> i have a history of attacking WIFOM when im town 01[10:41] <Cyber_Cheese> alright dont bother 01[10:41] <Cyber_Cheese> seeming too informed might be bad anyway 01[10:42] <Cyber_Cheese> 6 votes is death, oh man, im halfway there already [10:43] <Zephirdd> lol [10:43] <Zephirdd> [10:43] <Zephirdd> 6? [10:43] <Zephirdd> isnt it 5? [10:43] <Zephirdd> (10/2) 01[10:43] <Cyber_Cheese> zeph man, cool it on the lists imo 01[10:43] <Cyber_Cheese> nah its majority 01[10:43] <Cyber_Cheese> need more than half [10:43] <Zephirdd> oh 01[10:43] <Cyber_Cheese> (n+1)/2 [10:44] <GreYMisT> yea, for future reference, posting lists isnt a scumtell persay, but people treat excessivly doing it as a red flag [10:44] <Zephirdd> lol really? [10:44] <Zephirdd> õ_o [10:44] <GreYMisT> yea, because they are easy to do 01[10:44] <Cyber_Cheese> and dont really push a specific person [10:44] <GreYMisT> but dont add your opinion 01[10:44] <Cyber_Cheese> so it muddies the waters [10:44] <Zephirdd> I c [10:44] <GreYMisT> in order to blend in, focus on having an opinion and sticking to it 01[10:46] <Cyber_Cheese> hmmmm 01[10:46] <Cyber_Cheese> im working out how best to refute your logic grey [10:47] <Zephirdd> lol [10:47] <Zephirdd> that 01[10:47] <Cyber_Cheese> and my next move [10:47] <Zephirdd> is the most ironic statement [10:47] <Zephirdd> I've seen [10:47] <GreYMisT> what? [10:47] <Zephirdd> Hi, I am trying to go against you! [10:47] <Zephirdd> [10:47] <Zephirdd> out of context it feels odd 01[10:47] <Cyber_Cheese> well i have to look seperate to you two [10:47] <Zephirdd> XD [10:48] <GreYMisT> dont post for a while 01[10:48] <Cyber_Cheese> do i straight up seperate, or do i stick with it and 'seperate' from townies [10:48] <GreYMisT> lurk for a few hours/day 01[10:48] <Cyber_Cheese> im going to push palmar mostly 01[10:48] <Cyber_Cheese> but in regards to the other lynches, people are going to be pretty sure im scum [10:49] <GreYMisT> you can say "look how people are just sheeping him all the time" like call us sheep or something. but i think it is critical that you lurk for a bit [10:49] <GreYMisT> we dont want to make it look like this is coordinated from us [10:49] <Zephirdd> ^agreed actually 01[10:49] <Cyber_Cheese> we might have jumped that too soon in hindsight, shouldnt matter 01[10:50] <Cyber_Cheese> hmm a pm from zona, i formatted my pms to zbot incorrect and im lucky he checked manually 01[10:50] <Cyber_Cheese> damn, chrome auto-filled the subject from messaging coag 01[10:51] <Cyber_Cheese> steamship mafia instead of steamship liquipedia [10:51] <Zephirdd> lol [10:51] <Zephirdd> Liquidia* 01[10:51] <Cyber_Cheese> rofl more fail 01[10:52] <Cyber_Cheese> good thing i wont need to contact zbot any more 03[10:52] * GreYMisT_ (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mudkips [10:52] <GreYMisT_> i have cloned myself 01[10:52] <Cyber_Cheese> GENIOUS [10:52] <Zephirdd> YES 01[10:52] <Cyber_Cheese> now do that in the mafia game and vote me again [10:52] <GreYMisT_> now i shall assault the thread with 2 [10:52] <GreYMisT_> of me 01[10:52] <Cyber_Cheese> bus harder [10:53] <Zephirdd> we won [10:53] <Zephirdd> lol [10:53] <Zephirdd> nah nvm [10:53] <Zephirdd> 11 player 5 mafia [10:53] <Zephirdd> [10:53] <GreYMisT_> but yea zeph, if we succede with today, fully expect to bus me tomorrow [10:53] <GreYMisT_> if palmar notices what he should 01[10:54] <Cyber_Cheese> oh i forgot the results of my track 01[10:54] <Cyber_Cheese> what should i say [10:54] <GreYMisT_> say palmar didnt visit you [10:54] <GreYMisT_> he visited someone else 01[10:54] <Cyber_Cheese> sounds good [10:54] <GreYMisT_> im sure there is something better [10:54] <GreYMisT_> i could come up with [10:55] <GreYMisT_> but it would be far to complicated [10:55] <GreYMisT_> so keep it simple [10:55] <GreYMisT_> and say palmar is a liar 02[10:55] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [10:55] <GreYMisT_> this will help you again focus the day on you vs him 01[10:55] <Cyber_Cheese> In all that excitement, I forgot to mention why Palmar's result is convenient, I tracked him to RoL, he didn't visit me. [10:55] <GreYMisT_> haha holy shit that looks so scumm [10:55] <GreYMisT_> go for it [10:55] <GreYMisT_> :D 01[10:56] <Cyber_Cheese> awesome 01[10:56] <Cyber_Cheese> after i get bussed, ill leave irc on for logs, but i wont be allowed to talk [10:56] <GreYMisT_> then say somehting like "how does it feel palmar? how does it feel to take the life of an innocent who trusted ou" [10:56] <GreYMisT_> or not 01[10:56] <Cyber_Cheese> rofl! 01[10:56] <Cyber_Cheese> tempting but no 01[10:57] <Cyber_Cheese> i have to make it look like im playing scum badly [10:57] <GreYMisT_> but now its in the logs [10:57] <GreYMisT_> so yay 01[10:57] <Cyber_Cheese> love the way wbg called my scum bad after they needed a town tracker to flip 01[10:57] <Cyber_Cheese> oh, also the prp seeing me thing was unlucky [10:58] <GreYMisT_> yea, but what can you do? 01[10:58] <Cyber_Cheese> who knows 01[10:59] <Cyber_Cheese> if things had gone a little different i might have had town under my thumb [10:59] <Zephirdd> cheese, did you track anyone [10:59] <Zephirdd> at all? [10:59] <Zephirdd> lol [10:59] <GreYMisT_> bum 01[10:59] <Cyber_Cheese> bum 01[10:59] <Cyber_Cheese> nothing [10:59] <GreYMisT_> didnt visit anyone [10:59] <Zephirdd> :| [10:59] <Zephirdd> green too [10:59] <Zephirdd> no vigis at all [10:59] <Zephirdd> huh 01[10:59] <Cyber_Cheese> the rest will be green 01[10:59] <Cyber_Cheese> theres too many blues for another to exsist [11:00] <GreYMisT_> I will love whoever's idea it was to mass claim [11:00] <GreYMisT_> forever [11:00] <GreYMisT_> makes my job so easy 01[11:00] <Cyber_Cheese> ironically 01[11:00] <Cyber_Cheese> palmar 01[11:00] <Cyber_Cheese> ill use that as fuel [11:01] <Zephirdd> indeed lol [11:01] <Zephirdd> that was the best decision a town could make for us [11:01] <GreYMisT_> yea [11:01] <GreYMisT_> hey maybe if i flip, zeph can use that as well [11:01] <GreYMisT_> saying forcing a mass claim would allow me to get the most out of my role [11:01] <Zephirdd> hey maybe we win today [11:02] <Zephirdd> lol [11:02] <Zephirdd> like [11:02] <GreYMisT_> i like to plan [11:02] <Zephirdd> we win before December [11:02] <Zephirdd> LOLOLO 01[11:02] <Cyber_Cheese> rofl 01[11:04] <Cyber_Cheese> 4v6 right, so losing me, another scum and a townie is 2v5, two night kills is 2v3 and we're back to lylo 01[11:05] <Cyber_Cheese> short of them deciding to lynch three scum, we win [11:05] <Zephirdd> idk, if we could avoid Sinani's death it would be better [11:05] <Zephirdd> but I don't think we can 01[11:05] <Cyber_Cheese> sabin* [11:05] <Zephirdd> whatever [11:05] <Zephirdd> they all begin with S 01[11:05] <Cyber_Cheese> rofl [11:05] <Zephirdd> [11:06] <GreYMisT_> we mght not get sabin lynched today [11:06] <GreYMisT_> i just want to have that analysis ther [11:06] <GreYMisT_> if i need to use it again [11:06] <Zephirdd> you see, if we can avoid sabin's death [11:06] <Zephirdd> it's 3v5 by the end of the day [11:06] <Zephirdd> - 3 kills [11:06] <Zephirdd> we win [11:07] <Zephirdd> we do have grey's shots still 01[11:07] <Cyber_Cheese> we only have to even it up [11:07] <GreYMisT_> if we lynch 2 its 4 shots [11:07] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[11:07] <Cyber_Cheese> your going to run out of blues to shoot [11:07] <Zephirdd> and 4 shots in a 8 person scenario [11:07] <Zephirdd> .... [11:07] <GreYMisT_> i am [11:07] <Zephirdd> rofl we won [11:07] <Zephirdd> lol 01[11:07] <Cyber_Cheese> lanaia palmar and dclxvi are the last ones [11:07] <GreYMisT_> not yet we hanvnt [11:08] <GreYMisT_> this part is the most dangerous of all [11:08] <Zephirdd> what I mean is [11:08] <Zephirdd> if you survive [11:08] <Zephirdd> and dcl+cyber die [11:08] <Zephirdd> we win [11:08] <GreYMisT_> most likely [11:08] <GreYMisT_> its going to rely a lot on me and cyber doing our jobs properly [11:09] <Zephirdd> yeah [11:09] <Zephirdd> hang on I'll do some math here [11:09] <GreYMisT_> you have a moderatly easy role in all this zeph, you need to be our confirmed town [11:09] <Zephirdd> yup [11:10] <Zephirdd> also 01[11:10] <Cyber_Cheese> anyway ill come back to this in about 5 hours, maybe a little more, ill make a long post about palmar and refute any logic used to vote me [11:10] <Zephirdd> according to my math [11:10] <Zephirdd> 2 lynches = autowin [11:10] <Zephirdd> even if 2 mafia die 01[11:10] <Cyber_Cheese> what? 01[11:10] <Cyber_Cheese> you mean if grey lives yea? [11:10] <Zephirdd> yes [11:11] <Zephirdd> it relies entirely on grey surviving 01[11:11] <Cyber_Cheese> what if one of us gets vigi'd [11:11] <GreYMisT_> well dc is a medic [11:11] <GreYMisT_> isnt he [11:11] <Zephirdd> there is no vigi 01[11:11] <Cyber_Cheese> and we lynch a town and a scum 01[11:11] <Cyber_Cheese> well we cant prove that [11:11] <Zephirdd> dc says to be miller/medic [11:11] <GreYMisT_> someone could be lying about a blue role [11:11] <GreYMisT_> or a vanilla role 01[11:11] <Cyber_Cheese> yesterday it was 4v10, vigi could have done nothing [11:11] <Zephirdd> true, but would they risk lying with lemon around? 01[11:11] <Cyber_Cheese> expecting maybe 4v8 or 4v7 01[11:12] <Cyber_Cheese> hmmm going point they shouldnt have lied [11:12] <GreYMisT_> idk, people do studip things [11:12] <Zephirdd> agh back to wifom 01[11:12] <Cyber_Cheese> good point* 01[11:12] <Cyber_Cheese> tonight roleblock bum [11:12] <GreYMisT_> we just need to follow the plan, and it all will be good 01[11:12] <Cyber_Cheese> if dcl is dead [11:12] <GreYMisT_> hold on [11:12] <Zephirdd> bum didnt do anything [11:13] <Zephirdd> idk... [11:13] <Zephirdd> he seems inactive in the game [11:13] <GreYMisT_> one second 01[11:13] <Cyber_Cheese> a vigi that didnt shoot wouldnt have visited anyone [11:13] <Zephirdd> derp [11:13] <GreYMisT_> zeph you are going to need a reason to not "protect" lanaia [11:13] <GreYMisT_> then [11:13] <GreYMisT_> if you rb bum [11:13] <GreYMisT_> and if you do rb bum and i shoot her, that will look bad as well [11:14] <GreYMisT_> i mean rb lanaia 01[11:14] <Cyber_Cheese> well [11:14] <Zephirdd> hugh [11:14] <GreYMisT_> ok i got it 01[11:14] <Cyber_Cheese> the idea is bum is the only one that might be vig 01[11:14] <Cyber_Cheese> i think [11:14] <GreYMisT_> she will just have to be the one we keep alive [11:14] <GreYMisT_> at the endgame [11:15] <GreYMisT_> anyways, we can decide all this at night [11:15] <Zephirdd> yes [11:15] <GreYMisT_> or right before night [11:15] <Zephirdd> we have 48hr of day ahead [11:15] <GreYMisT_> can't plan for that right now 01[11:16] <Cyber_Cheese> thinking ahead wayyyy too far 01[11:16] <Cyber_Cheese> anyway imma come back to this in 6-8 hours or so 01[11:16] <Cyber_Cheese> laters [11:16] <Zephirdd> cya 03[11:16] * Cyber_Cheese is now known as AFK_Cheese [11:19] <GreYMisT_> im going to hop off of irc for now [11:19] <GreYMisT_> cya later zeph 02[11:19] * GreYMisT_ (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 02[11:32] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) Session Close: Sun Nov 27 22:28:29 2011 Session Start: Sun Nov 27 22:28:29 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[22:28] * Disconnected 02[22:28] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[22:28] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[22:28] * AFK_Cheese (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-131-105.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Session Close: Sun Nov 27 22:33:47 2011 Session Start: Sun Nov 27 22:33:47 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[22:33] * Disconnected 02[22:33] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[22:36] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Time: Mon Nov 28 00:00:00 2011 03[01:03] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190) has joined #mudkips 01[01:04] <@AFK_Cheese> howdy 03[01:04] * AFK_Cheese is now known as Cyber_Cheese [01:04] <Zephirdd> hiya 01[01:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> our plan is working awesomely 01[01:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> now we just need to stop any more lynches from happening [01:05] <Zephirdd> it seems so [01:05] <Zephirdd> but damn you guys post when I'm about to post [01:05] <Zephirdd> at this point, I don't want to post near your two [01:05] <Zephirdd> lol [01:05] <Zephirdd> tou* 01[01:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> rofl [01:05] <Zephirdd> you**** 01[01:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont plan on posting any time soon 01[01:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> go for it [01:06] <Zephirdd> you and grey were the last posts [01:06] <Zephirdd> :< 01[01:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> oh 01[01:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> lol 01[01:06] <@Cyber_Cheese> threads really slow at the moment [01:07] <Zephirdd> :< 01[01:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> lets see, 2v5 if sabin dies 01[01:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> if he was lynched that makes it 5 nightkills for us 01[01:07] <@Cyber_Cheese> we can kill all of town if we kill sabin [01:08] <Zephirdd> we dont need sabin dead in fact [01:08] <Zephirdd> it won't matter [01:08] <Zephirdd> we just need greymist alive [01:08] <Zephirdd> and we win 01[01:08] <@Cyber_Cheese> your missing the part where all of town being dead in the end would be awesome [01:09] <Zephirdd> XD [01:09] <Zephirdd> would be hilarious [01:09] <Zephirdd> also [01:09] <Zephirdd> lol @ flashlynch 01[01:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> they didnt even hear me out rofl [01:10] <Zephirdd> lol ofc [01:10] <Zephirdd> Palmar is basically confirmed [01:10] <Zephirdd> and he said you are scum 01[01:10] <@Cyber_Cheese> i was dreaming about how awesome it would be to fight the red check and get palmar lynched [01:10] <Zephirdd> no way they would listen anything you said 01[01:10] <@Cyber_Cheese> lanaia might still do it for us 01[01:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> im just going to say nothing now and let it play out 01[01:11] <@Cyber_Cheese> dont want to give them any information at all [01:11] <Zephirdd> yup [01:12] <Zephirdd> I just hope I'm alive by the end of it [01:12] <Zephirdd> because if me, sabin AND you die [01:12] <Zephirdd> then we don't win [01:12] <Zephirdd> and grey will be alone 01[01:15] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah 01[01:16] <@Cyber_Cheese> you and grey have to survive 01[01:16] <@Cyber_Cheese> roleblock bum just in case [01:16] <Zephirdd> yup 01[01:17] <@Cyber_Cheese> i think lemon said tyrran was vanilla 01[01:17] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont remember [01:17] <Zephirdd> Tyrran said to be vanilla [01:17] <Zephirdd> and lemon confirmed it 01[01:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> neg 01[01:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> he confirmed nisani 01[01:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> just looked it up [01:18] <Zephirdd> oh 01[01:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> after nisani died that is [01:18] <Zephirdd> but iirc you tracked tyrran 01[01:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> tyrran had no incentive to lie since he was townie [01:18] <Zephirdd> yes 01[01:19] <@Cyber_Cheese> um yeah tracking a vig that does nothing that night returns nothing 01[01:19] <@Cyber_Cheese> [01:19] <Zephirdd> also [01:19] <Zephirdd> "So I definitely should have checked DCL last night but in an act of stupidity I put my check on WBG as a place holder then promptly fell asleep." [01:19] <Zephirdd> Best thing ever that could happen 01[01:19] <@Cyber_Cheese> probably the second most anti-town move this game 01[01:19] <@Cyber_Cheese> first being palmar forcing a role call [01:20] <Zephirdd> hmmm idk 01[01:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> im going to make sure to call palmar bad in the post-game wrap up [01:20] <Zephirdd> Lanaia's anti-vote and then un-antivote [01:20] <Zephirdd> was great too [01:20] <Zephirdd> XD 01[01:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> rofl 01[01:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> poor kenpachi [01:20] <Zephirdd> I'll make sure to not call anyone bad [01:20] <Zephirdd> except wbg's logic 01[01:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> ill give that a third maybe [01:20] <Zephirdd> lol 01[01:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> im saving it only for palmar 01[01:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> since he seems convinced town is bad [01:20] <Zephirdd> I"ll just go "I love Palmar" 01[01:21] <@Cyber_Cheese> i know a guy like him irl, there is nothing more satisfying than when he is the one letting the team down 01[01:22] <@Cyber_Cheese> palmar lead lynches on tons of townies this game 01[01:22] <@Cyber_Cheese> its going to be awesome 01[01:22] <@Cyber_Cheese> hype hype hype 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> i still love the way wbg had his lists day 3 and the refined list was only townies 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> and then he calls me bad scum right before we kill him 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> i swear he adapted those lists to make sure i wasnt in them [01:26] <Zephirdd> I love his logic [01:26] <Zephirdd> Oh you voted a mafia, NO WAY YOU ARE MAFIA [01:26] <Zephirdd> haha [01:27] <Zephirdd> all in all, this game was fun [01:27] <Zephirdd> [01:27] <Zephirdd> we still have ~32 hours to go until night tho 01[01:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah 01[01:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> still i dont see too much happening 01[01:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> palmars not really focused on this game, and we dont plan on making another move 01[01:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont think the other townies will act on their own [01:30] <Zephirdd> :< 01[02:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> yawn 01[02:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> waiting for the game sucks 02[02:16] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[02:27] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[02:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> love the way lanaia believes im town 02[02:29] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03[02:29] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 01[02:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[02:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> do i vote for everyone that isnt lanaia now? [02:30] <Zephirdd> lol no idea [02:30] <Zephirdd> :< [02:30] <Zephirdd> I was going to say that it isn't necessary [02:31] <Zephirdd> to lynch everyone 01[02:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> good 01[02:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> we can disagree [02:31] <Zephirdd> k [02:31] <Zephirdd> hang on 01[02:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> hmmm not sure if i should bother making a proper case and trying to convince lanaia instead 01[02:36] <@Cyber_Cheese> 'the day we lynched two THEY only had two shots'*? [02:36] <Zephirdd> we were shot twice [02:37] <Zephirdd> we had two shots [02:37] <Zephirdd> huh... isnt that the same? [02:37] <Zephirdd> fuck English [02:37] <Zephirdd> -_- [02:37] <Zephirdd> meh, if they question it I'll give that [02:37] <Zephirdd> not like it isnt true 01[02:39] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont know 01[02:39] <@Cyber_Cheese> wait 01[02:39] <@Cyber_Cheese> you believe palmar 01[02:39] <@Cyber_Cheese> in the thread 01[02:39] <@Cyber_Cheese> so nevermind its good 01[02:39] <@Cyber_Cheese> ithink [02:40] <Zephirdd> lol 01[02:40] <@Cyber_Cheese> opinion 01[02:40] <@Cyber_Cheese> quicktopic 01[02:40] <@Cyber_Cheese> #240 and #241 01[02:40] <@Cyber_Cheese> i can link palmar to lemon because lemon confirmed palmar 01[02:41] <@Cyber_Cheese> lemon confirmed palmar after palmar revealed 01[02:41] <@Cyber_Cheese> lemon didnt check dclxvi last night [02:41] <Zephirdd> at this point, our objective is to remain as is [02:41] <Zephirdd> no other lynches [02:42] <Zephirdd> well, surely at this point you also have zero cred [02:42] <Zephirdd> lol 01[02:42] <@Cyber_Cheese> yes but 01[02:42] <@Cyber_Cheese> as scum 01[02:42] <@Cyber_Cheese> should i be comfortable with two of my teammates dying? [02:42] <Zephirdd> you mean "dcl" and coag? 01[02:42] <@Cyber_Cheese> dcl and me 01[02:43] <@Cyber_Cheese> getting lynched today [02:43] <Zephirdd> well [02:43] <Zephirdd> tbh my town reaction to your post [02:44] <Zephirdd> would be "You lost the game, and Town will win, now go away" [02:44] <Zephirdd> or something like that 01[02:44] <@Cyber_Cheese> Cheese, you are obvious scum, stop trying to salvage the day 01[02:44] <@Cyber_Cheese> or something [02:44] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[02:48] <@Cyber_Cheese> man 01[02:49] <@Cyber_Cheese> love the way risk.nuke gets warned for posting after death 01[02:49] <@Cyber_Cheese> THE VERY NEXT POST 01[02:49] <@Cyber_Cheese> is rol doing the same thing [02:49] <Zephirdd> RoL posts [02:49] <Zephirdd> XD [02:50] <Zephirdd> but risk.nuke didnt deserve the warning imo [02:50] <Zephirdd> it was just a popconr [02:50] <Zephirdd> D: 01[02:51] <@Cyber_Cheese> a post is a post nonetheless [02:51] <Zephirdd> :< 01[02:57] <@Cyber_Cheese> read the QT 01[02:59] <@Cyber_Cheese> please [03:00] <Zephirdd> hmmm [03:01] <Zephirdd> I think it'd be better if you included something like Sabin/Tyrran as scum [03:01] <Zephirdd> (with the slash) [03:01] <Zephirdd> just because everyone is considering him scum as well 01[03:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> I don't plan on posting the top one 01[03:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> it's just a general direction [03:01] <Zephirdd> don't talk about tyrran then [03:01] <Zephirdd> imo 01[03:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> kk [03:02] <Zephirdd> I like the conspiracy theory about palmar/lemon [03:02] <Zephirdd> 01[03:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> :D [03:02] <Zephirdd> and that last line, "If DCL and I were both scum, I wouldnt be sitting back" [03:02] <Zephirdd> huh [03:02] <Zephirdd> it's like 01[03:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> thats a note to self [03:03] <Zephirdd> I am scum, therefore I'm not sitting back [03:03] <Zephirdd> lol [03:03] <Zephirdd> note to self, k 01[03:03] <@Cyber_Cheese> added a border in there now [03:04] <Zephirdd> anyway, if you go with "I am talking a lot because I'm not mafia and I have to convince you are being manipulated", I'd just refute with "You are trying to manipulate us because you are mafia" [03:04] <Zephirdd> (random thought from seeing that sentence) 01[03:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> it's very easy to rebut 01[03:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> but theyll take it as desperation 01[03:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> the second post down 01[03:05] <@Cyber_Cheese> good start? [03:05] <Zephirdd> check QT [03:05] <Zephirdd> grey posted [03:06] <Zephirdd> also he gives a good point, you should go with 'grey is scum' or even 'zeph is scum' [03:06] <Zephirdd> just because you have zero cred 01[03:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> hmm 01[03:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> anyway that part about lemonwalrus 01[03:09] <@Cyber_Cheese> should I post it? [03:09] <Zephirdd> ask a revision from grey imo [03:09] <Zephirdd> and then you post it 01[03:10] <@Cyber_Cheese> tl pm'd him 03[03:13] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has joined #mudkips [03:13] <GreYMisT> sup [03:13] <Zephirdd> oh shit run 01[03:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> howdy [03:13] <GreYMisT> what is your goal with that post? 01[03:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> push lemon 01[03:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> use my lack of town cred as wifom [03:14] <GreYMisT> because when you flip scum your previous arguments will be nullified 01[03:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> by the time i flip it wont matter 01[03:14] <@Cyber_Cheese> we win overnight [03:15] <GreYMisT> eh thats true [03:15] <GreYMisT> go for it if you want [03:15] <GreYMisT> with the other post i would only mention the scumteam, with perhaps me or sabin in it [03:15] <GreYMisT> perferably sabin 01[03:15] <@Cyber_Cheese> the top one isnt a post 01[03:15] <@Cyber_Cheese> its a day plan [03:15] <GreYMisT> ah ok 01[03:15] <@Cyber_Cheese> #242 [03:16] <GreYMisT> i thought it was a brief outline of a post [03:16] <GreYMisT> this day is honestly going better than i though 01[03:16] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah no kidding 01[03:16] <@Cyber_Cheese> it looked like it was going to be so much worse [03:17] <Zephirdd> Palmar and bumatlarge are quite inactive [03:17] <Zephirdd> and Lanaia seems rather clueless of what to do [03:17] <GreYMisT> palmar is from iceland [03:17] <GreYMisT> timezones are screwing with him [03:17] <Zephirdd> :\ 01[03:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> posted #241 [03:18] <GreYMisT> oh cool, if none of you vote for me it will take all of the other players voting for me to lynch me [03:18] <GreYMisT> assuming lanaia doesnt use her power 01[03:18] <@Cyber_Cheese> you wont be killed today [03:20] <GreYMisT> haha i would actually normally vote lemon with that evidence [03:20] <GreYMisT> i think [03:23] <GreYMisT> anyways heading off for now, going to become active in the thread in a few hours [03:23] <GreYMisT> give someone time to respond to your post 02[03:24] * GreYMisT (webchat@c-71-207-247-196.hsd1.al.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Page closed) 01[03:24] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah [03:24] <Zephirdd> lolz 01[03:24] <@Cyber_Cheese> hopefully someone takes it as wifom 01[03:24] <@Cyber_Cheese> me trying to save lemon with my lack of town cred or something [03:25] <Zephirdd> who knows [03:25] <Zephirdd> ^^ 01[03:25] <@Cyber_Cheese> everything i say is wifom to them so it doesnt really matter 01[03:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> just as long as i dont look ready to wait for the flip, which i now dont 01[06:49] <@Cyber_Cheese> howdy 01[06:50] <@Cyber_Cheese> im going to replace into the big game probably 01[06:51] <@Cyber_Cheese> this has practically wrapped itself up so i have time to spare now 01[06:51] <@Cyber_Cheese> you should consider it too 01[06:52] <@Cyber_Cheese> i bring this up because one of the co-hosts asked me and i recommended you if they need more people [06:56] <Zephirdd> well, I don't know [06:56] <Zephirdd> this week in special is a problem [06:56] <Zephirdd> next week onwards it'd be fine 01[06:56] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah i planned on taking a break from mafia after steamship 01[06:56] <@Cyber_Cheese> but i figure the game will last ages so i can do nothing early if i want [06:57] <Zephirdd> :< 01[06:57] <@Cyber_Cheese> a player of little use that does something a little later is better than a dead one [06:58] <Zephirdd> yup 01[06:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> now to read ~75 pages and form some basic opinions 01[06:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> :/ [07:00] <Zephirdd> rofl [07:00] <Zephirdd> XD [07:00] <Zephirdd> I guess I cant ask if youre townie/mafia huh [07:00] <Zephirdd> although I suppose you're townie at this point 01[07:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont have my role pm yet, and short of you replacing in as my mafia scum buddy i probably wouldnt tell you 01[07:02] <@Cyber_Cheese> observers dont get told peoples alignments because of the potential to pass it on [07:11] <Zephirdd> 01[07:27] <@Cyber_Cheese> ill have to make a large post on why palmar is scum 01[07:27] <@Cyber_Cheese> look like mafia really wants a third lynch 01[07:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> oh im back to talking about steamship btw 01[07:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> keeping the people content with these two lynches sounds awesome [07:28] <Zephirdd> yup [07:28] <Zephirdd> seems like that's what will happen [07:28] <Zephirdd> and we win [07:28] <Zephirdd> lololo 01[07:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> nov 24 9am 01[07:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> was chaoser dead by then 01[07:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> wait, thats a 7pm, kst 01[07:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> mrzentor* not chaoser [07:31] <Zephirdd> hmmm 01[07:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> just checked [07:32] <Zephirdd> he died 26th 01[07:32] <@Cyber_Cheese> he died on 26th 02[08:45] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (EOF from client) Session Close: Mon Nov 28 12:53:33 2011 Session Start: Mon Nov 28 12:53:33 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[12:53] * Disconnected Session Close: Mon Nov 28 12:53:34 2011 Session Start: Mon Nov 28 16:05:45 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 03[16:05] * Now talking in #mudkips 03[22:29] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips [23:16] <Zephirdd> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=121#2413 [23:16] <Zephirdd> Lemonwalrus knows what he is talking about [23:16] <Zephirdd> LOLOLOLOLO Session Time: Tue Nov 29 00:00:00 2011 03[00:27] * Zephirdd_ (~Zephirdd@189.26.73.222.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips 02[00:30] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.114.171.190.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[00:30] * Zephirdd_ is now known as Zephirdd 01[01:20] <@Cyber_Cheese> howdy 01[01:21] <@Cyber_Cheese> rofl 01[01:22] <@Cyber_Cheese> love the way they think theyll survive [01:25] <Zephirdd> XD [01:25] <Zephirdd> at this point, they must believe I am town [01:25] <Zephirdd> lol 01[01:25] <@Cyber_Cheese> i wonder if we have to go through with the formality of a night time 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> rofl 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> even if they dont they seem fine with waiting for flips 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> probably because ive been pushing for more lynches [01:26] <Zephirdd> idk, there is the possibility of a vigi [01:26] <Zephirdd> so I guess I'll have to go through 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> yeah 01[01:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> greymist should outlast bum anyway [01:27] <Zephirdd> well, we have four kills tomorrow night [01:28] <Zephirdd> and no other docs, unless Zona is fucking retarded lol 01[01:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> rofl 01[01:29] <@Cyber_Cheese> very tempted to ask zona if we have to go through with the formality of the night [01:29] <Zephirdd> haha [01:29] <Zephirdd> Zona is strict with his rules 01[01:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> well, if town has a way of winning hes going to say no for sure 01[01:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> and then if town can win still thats information he shouldnt give out 01[01:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> so i cant really ask [01:31] <Zephirdd> yeah 01[01:43] <@Cyber_Cheese> hmmm now i know i can clear out bandwagons on people by voting along 01[01:43] <@Cyber_Cheese> shame that wont actually come in useful before i lose that ability [01:43] <Zephirdd> rofl 03[07:01] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) has joined #mudkips [07:01] <GreYMisT> hey zeph [07:01] <Zephirdd> heya [07:01] <Zephirdd> so, your opinion on the game at this point? [07:01] <Zephirdd> lol [07:01] <GreYMisT> so check the QT. is that right? [07:02] <Zephirdd> yeah pretty much [07:02] <GreYMisT> I think it would take a miracle for us to lose [07:02] <GreYMisT> yea [07:02] <Zephirdd> although you should kill palmar and lemon this night [07:02] <GreYMisT> so lets discuss night actions at this point [07:03] <GreYMisT> bum still hasnt claimed [07:03] <Zephirdd> palmar/lemon and lanaia/tyrran imo [07:03] <Zephirdd> shots and kp [07:03] <Zephirdd> in order [07:03] <GreYMisT> whatever works [07:03] <Zephirdd> you cant kill tyrran with shots [07:03] <Zephirdd> [07:04] <GreYMisT> i want to kill lanaia [07:04] <Zephirdd> also, I roleblock bumatlarge right? [07:04] <Zephirdd> just to be safe [07:04] <GreYMisT> yes [07:04] <Zephirdd> we won [07:04] <Zephirdd> lol [07:04] <Zephirdd> srsly, no way to lose [07:04] <Zephirdd> palmar/lemon are confirmed at this point [07:04] <GreYMisT> one thing i can see happening [07:05] <GreYMisT> but it would take an observant person [07:05] <GreYMisT> well assuming we dont win tonight [07:05] <GreYMisT> to find it 03[07:05] * GreYMisT_ (webchat@209.166.101.90) has joined #mudkips [07:05] <GreYMisT_> but yea we have pretty much won [07:05] <Zephirdd> a dupe? [07:05] <GreYMisT_> haha [07:05] <Zephirdd> rofl [07:05] <GreYMisT_> this keeps happening [07:05] <Zephirdd> XD [07:05] <Zephirdd> dem cheating [07:06] <GreYMisT_> yea RB bum, ill kill palmar and lanaia [07:06] <Zephirdd> I find it hilarious how Lemon says exactly what I was sying in the chat [07:06] <Zephirdd> "Don't lynch anyone else, we can win tomorrow" [07:06] <GreYMisT_> and we shoot lemon and tryann [07:06] <Zephirdd> lololo [07:06] <Zephirdd> why do you want to kill lanaia with shots? [07:06] <GreYMisT_> i missed her before [07:06] <GreYMisT_> its a matter of principle [07:06] <Zephirdd> rofl [07:06] <Zephirdd> It's Double Voter [07:06] <Zephirdd> I told you that time [07:06] <GreYMisT_> yea [07:07] <Zephirdd> [07:07] <Zephirdd> although at this point I think it was good that she survived [07:07] <Zephirdd> lol [07:07] <GreYMisT_> we didnt know she could double vote at the time [07:07] <GreYMisT_> i only thought it was an anti vote [07:07] <GreYMisT_> which makes sense with pardoner [07:07] <Zephirdd> I thought it was "a variation" [07:07] <Zephirdd> of double voter [07:07] <GreYMisT_> yea, i thought variation of pardoner [07:07] <GreYMisT_> haha [07:07] <GreYMisT_> w/e ill send in double voter this time [07:08] <GreYMisT_> who do you want to shoot out of lemon or trynn? [07:08] <Zephirdd> lol does it matter? [07:08] <Zephirdd> XD [07:08] <Zephirdd> I'll kill lemon [07:08] <GreYMisT_> well so we dont send in the same order [07:08] <GreYMisT_> alrighty [07:08] <Zephirdd> just because he survived the other day [07:08] <GreYMisT_> haha yea [07:09] <Zephirdd> pretty sure xsksc protected him and Palmar in a genious manner [07:09] <GreYMisT_> even if one of our shots fails, we still win [07:09] <Zephirdd> something like Lemon/Palmar/Cheese [07:09] <Zephirdd> also [07:10] <Zephirdd> we got lucky that lemon fucked up [07:10] <Zephirdd> had he checked DCL, we'd lose [07:10] <Zephirdd> I think 02[07:11] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) Quit (Ping timeout) 03[07:13] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) has joined #mudkips [07:13] <GreYMisT> i didnt hear anythinng you said after "also" [07:14] <Zephirdd> we got lucky [07:14] <Zephirdd> that lemon fucked up [07:14] <Zephirdd> had he checked DCL we'd lose [07:14] <Zephirdd> [07:14] <Zephirdd> I think [07:14] <GreYMisT> nah, palmar would still push for bum to die [07:14] <GreYMisT> you RB DC [07:14] <Zephirdd> hmm true [07:15] <GreYMisT> and same senario [07:15] <Zephirdd> I like how wbg actually nailed ALL the mafia 02[07:15] * GreYMisT_ (webchat@209.166.101.90) Quit (Ping timeout) [07:15] <Zephirdd> at some point [07:15] <Zephirdd> [07:15] <GreYMisT> his case on me was weak [07:15] <Zephirdd> yeah, but he had the intuition [07:15] <Zephirdd> future games I'll probably follow his intuition [07:15] <GreYMisT> only applies as the game goes on [07:16] <Zephirdd> yes [07:16] <GreYMisT> he is a very "tunnely" player [07:16] <GreYMisT> meaning he focuses very tightly on his targets [07:16] <GreYMisT> therefor when there are a lot of targets [07:16] <GreYMisT> his analysis isnt as accurate [07:16] <Zephirdd> he is good at lategame [07:16] <Zephirdd> He is a carrier! [07:16] <GreYMisT> haha [07:17] <Zephirdd> [07:17] <GreYMisT> btw did your tweet get retweeted by kenniget? [07:17] <Zephirdd> yeah [07:17] <GreYMisT> epic pony [07:17] <Zephirdd> my mind was blown [07:17] <Zephirdd> because it was a pony lol! [07:17] <Zephirdd> and Kennigit is known for hating on ponies [07:17] <Zephirdd> [07:17] <GreYMisT> LZgamer replied to one of my tweets, thats as far as ive gotten [07:18] <Zephirdd> heh [07:20] <GreYMisT> i think [07:20] <GreYMisT> right before the day post [07:20] <GreYMisT> i might breadcrumb "I win" [07:20] <Zephirdd> I want to state it [07:20] <Zephirdd> lol [07:20] <Zephirdd> >< [07:20] <GreYMisT> haha [07:20] <Zephirdd> I feel so tempted rofl [07:20] <GreYMisT> dont do it [07:21] <Zephirdd> I know [07:21] <Zephirdd> I still feel tempted [07:21] <GreYMisT> my post would be like "I want Info Now." [07:21] <GreYMisT> or something [07:21] <GreYMisT> beginning of every word [07:21] <Zephirdd> I'm tempted to go GGWP at 23:59 [07:22] <GreYMisT> yea, but there is always the chance something will get fucked up [07:22] <GreYMisT> never assume [07:22] <Zephirdd> the really really off chance [07:22] <Zephirdd> but yeah [07:22] <Zephirdd> Nothing is true [07:22] <Zephirdd> Everything is Permitted [07:22] <Zephirdd> god I love that game [07:22] <Zephirdd> >< [07:23] <GreYMisT> some of the actual blues could have fakeclaimed [07:23] <Zephirdd> possibily Lemon [07:23] <Zephirdd> hence killing palmar/Lanaia [07:23] <GreYMisT> yea [07:23] <Zephirdd> since Palmar is basically confirmed(breadcrumbs) [07:23] <GreYMisT> i know their roles [07:23] <GreYMisT> my only fear is someone being a PGO, but this late in the game and with all the kp accounted for [07:24] <GreYMisT> that is unlikely [07:24] <Zephirdd> there is no PGO [07:24] <Zephirdd> Zona said there are no hidden mechanics that aren't stated on the thread [07:24] <Zephirdd> and stated the possible roles [07:25] <Zephirdd> I'm tempted to host a DN game after this, but the guys from the huge game asked me to be a possible replacement [07:25] <Zephirdd> :< [07:25] <GreYMisT> you did replace in [07:25] <GreYMisT> i thought [07:26] <Zephirdd> wtf [07:26] <Zephirdd> they didn't PM me [07:26] <Zephirdd> D: [07:26] <GreYMisT> oh and its possible that PGO can be a variant of vigilante or bulletproof. [07:26] <Zephirdd> hooooly shit I have a lot to read [07:26] <Zephirdd> didnt know that [07:27] <GreYMisT> who did you replace? [07:27] <Zephirdd> RoyGBiv_13 [07:27] <Zephirdd> I could be mafia and not even know [07:27] <GreYMisT> ah yea, he didnt post much [07:27] <Zephirdd> lol [07:28] <GreYMisT> PM Gmarshal or iGrok or one of the other mods [07:28] <GreYMisT> and ask for your role pm [07:28] <GreYMisT> n stuff [07:28] <Zephirdd> I will [07:28] <GreYMisT> excellent [07:28] <GreYMisT> I will see you on the battlefield [07:28] <GreYMisT> good luck to you sire [07:29] <Zephirdd> cya [07:29] <Zephirdd> oh [07:29] <Zephirdd> I read that as if you were leaving [07:29] <Zephirdd> are you saying you are scum huuuuuummmm? [07:29] <Zephirdd> yeah I'll totally lynch you beeyeetch [07:29] <Zephirdd> :D [07:30] <GreYMisT> oh no [07:30] <GreYMisT> you caught me [07:30] <Zephirdd> oh noez [07:30] <Zephirdd> haha [07:30] <GreYMisT> now i have to 5 stack you [07:30] <GreYMisT> to make sure you die [07:30] <Zephirdd> ...would it be scummy if I posted "so I replaced this guy but I didn't get a PM, brb reading thread"? [07:30] <Zephirdd> lol [07:31] <GreYMisT> can't comment [07:31] <Zephirdd> with wbg active there I'm pretty sure he'll jump on me just because of the last game [07:31] <GreYMisT> Just pm the mods and do what you think is best, we are not allowed to discuss ongoing games outside of the thread [07:32] <GreYMisT> ^_^ [07:32] <Zephirdd> "Meanwhile, MrZentor, Tyrran, and zJayy962 were driving around in their car when it spontaneously exploded." [07:32] <Zephirdd> LOL [07:32] <Zephirdd> k this is hilarious [07:32] <GreYMisT> that is the flavor for modkilling [07:32] <Zephirdd> okay [07:32] <GreYMisT> GMarshal uses that a lot [07:35] <GreYMisT> well 2 hours and 26 minutes until nightpost for SS [07:35] <Zephirdd> [07:36] <GreYMisT> you were town in newbie mini mafia right? or did you play in that at all? [07:36] <Zephirdd> SS was my first game [07:36] <Zephirdd> :D [07:36] <GreYMisT> ah ok, its another Z name that played [07:36] <Zephirdd> [07:37] <GreYMisT> i was a coach for that game [07:37] <Zephirdd> oh yeah you mentioned [07:37] <Zephirdd> or cheese mentioned [07:39] <GreYMisT> yea [07:47] <Zephirdd> holy crap, reading a post on the huge game, WBG surely loves to analyze a single player thoughtfully huh O_O [07:47] <Zephirdd> gigantic post [07:47] <GreYMisT> haha yea [07:48] <GreYMisT> anyways im off, may or may not be here for the night post. just post what actions you are taking in the QT [07:49] <GreYMisT> so i know which ones to do myslef [07:49] <GreYMisT> cya [07:50] <Zephirdd> cya 02[07:55] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) Quit (Ping timeout) 01[08:13] <@Cyber_Cheese> yo [08:26] <Zephirdd> yo [08:26] <Zephirdd> I replaced someone on the huge game [08:26] <Zephirdd> but I got no PM of role [08:26] <Zephirdd> D: 01[08:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> what 01[08:26] <@Cyber_Cheese> really 01[08:27] <@Cyber_Cheese> thats interesting 01[08:27] <@Cyber_Cheese> pm all the hosts/cohosts 01[08:27] <@Cyber_Cheese> post anything in the meantime while you dunno your role 01[08:27] <@Cyber_Cheese> you look less suspicious [08:28] <Zephirdd> dunno, I didnt even know I had replaced someone until grey told me lol [08:28] <Zephirdd> I'm reading the thread atm [08:28] <Zephirdd> my guy didn't post anything [08:28] <Zephirdd> at [08:28] <Zephirdd> all [08:28] <Zephirdd> -_- 01[08:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> other than that id rather not talk about it outside the thread because ill slip something up 01[08:28] <@Cyber_Cheese> 115 pages i still havnt read it all myself[08:29] <Zephirdd> yeah I know [08:29] <Zephirdd> you and grey are scumfriends I'm sure [08:29] <Zephirdd> LOLOLO 01[08:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> hlol 01[08:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> lol* [08:30] <Zephirdd> HAH [08:30] <Zephirdd> A SLIP [08:30] <Zephirdd> YOU ARE MAFIA [08:30] <Zephirdd> I KNOW IT [08:30] <Zephirdd> trolololo [08:30] <Zephirdd> inb4 I flip mafia as well [08:30] <Zephirdd> rofl [08:30] <Zephirdd> XD 01[08:30] <@Cyber_Cheese> we'll see in due time 01[08:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> man i want 1 hr 28 to come around a bit fast [08:31] <Zephirdd> rofl [08:31] <Zephirdd> XD 01[08:31] <@Cyber_Cheese> want to post something about night being a formailty before i die in steamship [08:32] <Zephirdd> haha [08:32] <Zephirdd> do eet [08:32] <Zephirdd> go with WE WIN LOLZ [08:32] <Zephirdd> or smt 01[08:36] <@Cyber_Cheese> hmm nah i wont make it too obvious 01[08:36] <@Cyber_Cheese> wait 01[08:36] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont mean obvious 01[08:36] <@Cyber_Cheese> i dont really want to rub it in until zona declares gg [08:36] <Zephirdd> heh [08:36] <Zephirdd> XD 01[09:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> you around 01[09:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> And now I'm bussed it all becomes formality. 01[09:58] <@Cyber_Cheese> You needed more mafia lynches today, but no-one was listening to me. 01[09:59] <@Cyber_Cheese> dropped the im bussed [10:00] <Zephirdd> wat 01[10:00] <@Cyber_Cheese> im dead, cant talk until games over [10:00] <Zephirdd> ah 01[10:00] <@Cyber_Cheese> f5 [10:00] <Zephirdd> I see 01[10:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> well i didnt flip yet but [10:01] <Zephirdd> I was reading the hugeass game 01[10:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> imma stop talking [10:01] <Zephirdd> page 57~ 01[10:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> glgl 01[10:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> im @ 52 in xlvii 01[10:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> ITS SO LONG 01[10:01] <@Cyber_Cheese> anyway only on for logs now 03[10:02] * Cyber_Cheese is now known as Cheese_logs 01[10:02] <@Cheese_logs> ciao in the post game [10:02] <Zephirdd> cya 02[10:17] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.73.222.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Read error: EOF from client) Session Close: Tue Nov 29 18:28:51 2011 Session Start: Tue Nov 29 18:28:51 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[18:28] * Disconnected 02[18:29] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[18:29] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Close: Tue Nov 29 18:32:16 2011 Session Start: Tue Nov 29 18:32:16 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[18:32] * Disconnected 02[18:33] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[18:33] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Close: Tue Nov 29 18:37:06 2011 Session Start: Tue Nov 29 18:37:06 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[18:37] * Disconnected 02[18:37] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[18:37] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[18:37] * @Cheese_logs (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-131-105.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Session Close: Tue Nov 29 18:40:44 2011 Session Start: Tue Nov 29 18:40:44 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[18:40] * Disconnected 02[18:41] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[18:41] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Close: Tue Nov 29 18:44:38 2011 Session Start: Tue Nov 29 18:44:38 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[18:44] * Disconnected 02[18:45] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[18:45] * Rejoined channel #mudkips Session Close: Tue Nov 29 18:48:37 2011 Session Start: Tue Nov 29 18:48:37 2011 Session Ident: #mudkips 02[18:48] * Disconnected 02[18:49] * Attempting to rejoin channel #mudkips 03[18:49] * Rejoined channel #mudkips 02[18:49] * @Cheese_logs (~Mudkips@CPE-58-170-131-105.lns1.pie.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03[21:04] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.73.222.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #mudkips Session Time: Wed Nov 30 00:00:00 2011 03[02:05] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) has joined #mudkips [02:05] <GreYMisT> hey zephridd [02:05] <GreYMisT> zephirdd* [02:05] <Zephirdd> sup [02:05] <Zephirdd> just got my PM [02:05] <Zephirdd> kills sent [02:05] <Zephirdd> kill/rb sent* [02:05] <GreYMisT> i cant kill lanaia with the "double voter" tag [02:05] <Zephirdd> Whaaaaaaaaat [02:06] <Zephirdd> õ_o [02:06] <Zephirdd> Town Elder? [02:06] <GreYMisT> that isnt a variant im allowed to tag [02:06] <Zephirdd> hmm [02:06] <GreYMisT> let me show you [02:06] <GreYMisT> what im allowed [02:06] <Zephirdd> so I kill her and you kill LW? [02:06] <Zephirdd> wait, isnt there the possibility [02:06] <GreYMisT> Doctor, Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Vigilante, Mason, Bulletproof, Jack of All Trades, Rolecop, Roleblocker, Framer, Pardoner, and Lynchproof. [02:06] <Zephirdd> that DCL protected her the first time? [02:06] <GreYMisT> are the tags [02:06] <GreYMisT> yea thats possible [02:06] <Zephirdd> so Pardoner would work [02:07] <Zephirdd> possibily [02:07] <GreYMisT> yea thats what i did the first time [02:07] <Zephirdd> hmmm [02:07] <GreYMisT> just to be safe you want to switch the kills? [02:07] <Zephirdd> yeah [02:07] <Zephirdd> lets switch them [02:07] <Zephirdd> x_x [02:07] <GreYMisT> from lemon [02:07] <GreYMisT> so you resend your kill order [02:07] <GreYMisT> to lanaia [02:07] <GreYMisT> deal? [02:07] <GreYMisT> and i resend my snipe order [02:08] <Zephirdd> resent [02:08] <GreYMisT> just dont want to take the risk of me being wrong [02:08] <GreYMisT> alright let me do mine [02:08] <GreYMisT> lemon is a cop variant right? [02:08] <Zephirdd> rolecop [02:08] <GreYMisT> kk [02:08] <Zephirdd> no wait [02:08] <Zephirdd> yeah rolecop [02:08] <Zephirdd> palmar is cop [02:08] <Zephirdd> LW confirmed palmar's ability [02:08] <GreYMisT> ok [02:09] <Zephirdd> also, is it common for people to bitch so much on games? [02:09] <Zephirdd> my god that Ace stuff was ridiculous [02:10] <GreYMisT> happens sometimes, sometimes not [02:10] <GreYMisT> ok my ability has been resent [02:10] <GreYMisT> post in the QT your confirmation and what it confirmed [02:10] <Zephirdd> okay [02:11] <GreYMisT> GM just smaked down the hammer anyway [02:11] <GreYMisT> anyways, so to get it straight [02:11] <GreYMisT> you are killing lanaia [02:11] <Zephirdd> yeah [02:11] <Zephirdd> and RB bum [02:11] <GreYMisT> and RBing bum [02:11] <GreYMisT> i am killing trynn [02:12] <GreYMisT> and sniping palmar as cop and lemon as rolecop [02:12] <Zephirdd> yes [02:12] <GreYMisT> awesome we are on the same page [02:12] <Zephirdd> post your confirmations on QT too [02:12] <Zephirdd> the ones you got at least [02:12] <GreYMisT> i shall [02:12] <Zephirdd> [02:12] <GreYMisT> if this works we should be 1v2 at night [02:12] <GreYMisT> i love what i think lemon posted? there is no way 2 of them can get 3 kills [02:12] <Zephirdd> which means GG [02:12] <GreYMisT> actually, we can get 4 kills [02:13] <GreYMisT> thanks for asking [02:13] <Zephirdd> rofl [02:13] <Zephirdd> XD [02:13] <Zephirdd> well, in a sense [02:13] <Zephirdd> if one of them end up surviving [02:13] <Zephirdd> we still win [02:13] <GreYMisT> yea [02:15] <GreYMisT> anwya i gtg [02:15] <GreYMisT> see ya in a few hours [02:17] <Zephirdd> cya 02[02:21] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) Quit (Ping timeout) 02[05:14] * Zephirdd (~Zephirdd@189.26.73.222.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 03[06:49] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) has joined #mudkips 02[06:49] * GreYMisT (webchat@209.166.101.90) Quit (Quit: Page closed) Shoutouts to Greymist and Zephirdd for being awesome teammates. Sabin wasn't around after day 1 much, that was disappointing because he was pretty cool. Prplhz seeing me at Tyrrans really threw me off, I regret not finding a reason to consistantly check townies, or using a more fake claim. I shouldn't have lied about checking Sabin, and kept consistant with checking Tyrran. Maybe something to do with working your way up a scumminess list anyway or something. Once Kibibit died, I knew I had to die. Why he didn't call me out straight away I don't get, but at any rate, that's why I started appearing scummier. It wasn't really a position that would have been worth the time and effort defending when we had the game in the bag anyway. @WBG, you suspected a lot of people. You can't really claim to have known who the scum were all along if you shotgun theory it. I lol'd at how you adapted your lists around the reads, specifically choosing people who were on two major townie bandwagons, and your assumption that no scum were bussing Coagulation, who was absolutely useless. | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:26 GreYMisT wrote: cyber, do you have a link to the Irc logs? Edited my above post with them | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:28 GreYMisT wrote: yea, would have been nice if sabin and coag were like around at all... We never even got to use any of coag's abilities. Observer/Death QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/8hGdFUyhbNpvS Someone in there picked up that he wasted the smokebomb on Prplhz It was an awesome setup, I'd play it again in a heartbeat. Ty Zona. | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:30 wherebugsgo wrote: problem was you and a lot of the other townies never once made a correct call all game. How are the rest of the townies supposed to determine your alignment if you keep trying to lynch people we think are town? This was the huge problem for me with chaoser, Nisani, you, Drazerk, and Forumite. You guys were just pushing townies over and over with terrible reasoning and I'd look at the votelists and you guys would always be there. Can't convince anyone of that when there's also 5 scum to deal with. The only reason the game was close at all was because Zona was strict about the activity requirements and modkilled Coag and sabin. I caught Zephirdd on day 2? But literally no one could see it and I couldn't pressure him hard enough because the town was already such a mess to begin with. It's frustrating when you're called a detriment to town and you watch the other townies destroy any and all progress you attempt to make. When you tell them to stop they turn around and attack you. This is what happened with me and Nisani+chaoser. I told them they were being dumb and anti-town and they turned around and attacked me. Zephirdds posts were incredibly neutral and cautious early on, you should have picked up on that and pushed his lynch much harder if you believed he was scum. You can't just claim these things post-game. | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote: and also I was super mad you didn't get lynched, greymist. You were like one of the only players who was on every lynch except for Coag's. It was mind boggling to watch cyber get lynched but not you. I was like wtf??!?!?! Between being seen at Tyrran's night 1 without great reason, not adapting my claim, and a real town tracker flipped, there was too much evidence that threw doubt on me. All they had on grey was a line or two you wrote before I had to kill you. | ||
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On November 30 2011 13:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: This is what I was laughing at greymist. I only missed your two inactive members ;P I was too lazy to actually ever do analysis, but I knew using this method would kill a good bunch of you. Meanwhile, on WBG's side On November 23 2011 18:26 wherebugsgo wrote: yo RoL did you vote nisani/bum? I'm all for lynching the people who bandwagoned like mad but we have to discriminate between who is more likely to be scum and who is less likely to be. Sure, it'd be a great way to get rid of the hard decision by just killing them all now, but I think we should lynch the ones who are scummiest first and then with those flips we can start pushing into the rest of the group tomorrow. In fact, most of the people who were on all 3 lynches are probably idiot townies. They wouldn't want that much attention on themselves. I think we need to more carefully consider those who were only on two lynches. Basically, I say we start with nisani/bum/chaoser. I know chaoser wanted to vote prpl, so he would've actually been on two lynch bandwagons. Scum like to split their votes between two candidates when both are town. I know this because I did it myself as scum. My team would split, one half pushing one townie for lynch and the other pushing the other. No matter who won, a townie would die. In this game, if both win, two townies die. So let's look at the lynch and see who, if anyone, had at least 3 votes and was on either kenpachi or sinani day 1 but not the other on the same day, and then was also on prpl day 2: Day 1: Kenpachi(14): bumatlarge, DCLXVI, prplhz, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Palmar, GreYMisT, risk.nuke, Tyrran, Lemonwalrus Hiroruby, sinani206, Nisani201, Cyber_Cheese sinani206(14): chaoser (would have been on prpl day 2), GreYMisT, Lanaia, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Cyber_Cheese, risk.nuke, LSB, Tyrran, Forumite, Lemonwalrus, Zephirdd, HarbingerOfDoom, hyshes Day 2: prplhz (12): Forumite, Drazerk, GreYMisT, Nisani201, hyshes, bumatlarge, risk.nuke, Kibibit, Sabin010, Lanaia, xsksc, Coagulation (would have been chaoser here as vote 13) From this vote pattern alone some of the 3 voters (such as Cyber_Cheese and GreYMisT) are less likely to be scum (though we can't rule it out) This is on the assumption that scum would split their vote to avoid as much suspicion as possible. This means we should focus on: bumatlarge, nisani, chaoser/mrzentor, forumite, lanaia. All names I think are likely to bleed red. If I missed something, let me know. OH MAN YOU HAD US ALL! And that is why you just saying it doesn't count in the slightest. | ||
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On November 30 2011 13:03 GreYMisT wrote: i think it was 6 or more right? Yeah it still would have failed if he only excluded one. Regardless, it would have to be pushed through in halves, nobody was going to vote that many people. | ||
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