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Ah alright, I thought you were talking about your meta or something like that. Anyway, I can't beleive that chaoser was the only one to question this nonsense.
On November 16 2011 09:07 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote:On November 16 2011 09:03 sinani206 wrote:
wtf
##Vote: chaoser Your not going to lurk the first day, come out of no where and then vote chaoser without reason. FoS sinani206 His posts this game are nothing like what I've seem out of him before and even if I hadn't played with him before, the posts are straight up scummy.
While Its too early for me to have a kickass town read on any player, I can't let this slip on by. What is this? This cannot be all you have to say about what you find "straight up scummy." I fail to see how you can come in here, call him scum, when you have barely been here yourself and this is all you have to offer.
It hasn't worked in the past few games, but maybe this time this will get some sense out of you.
##Vote: Sinani206
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On November 17 2011 01:23 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. You justify not voting Coag because he is well known and "if he's not scum then scum will want to shoot him" because he is a good player. And yet you somehow think I'm a good lynch day one? How does that make sense? You want to give Coag a free pass for day 1 but apparently that policy of "he's good+scum will probably shoot him night 1" doesn't apply to me? Show nested quote +Yep, I remember. I'm just saying that, since his meta is inconsistent, (and the sample size is tiny) it's not particularly telling of anything.
For now, he's just another lurker. When called out on not giving him a free pass you back off immediately, clearly being very wishy washy about it. This added in with your other weird logic... Show nested quote +I didn't suggest everyone would do it. I just said having multiple people do it would create a lot of chaos. How is that a logical leap? You clearly imply that my doing it would lead to other people doing it: Show nested quote +What I don't want people doing is what chaoser is doing; just going out there and throwing votes left and right without actually thinking about them. Sure, you can do it if you want, but it's not going to be pretty. The thread will be a mess and you'll have multiple people OMGUSing because they're taking votes. Show nested quote +I mean look at had happened already. People are OMGUSing you because you're voting them. It makes things way more complicated than they should be. We play mafia a certain way; we deal with one lynch at a time. This game should be no different IMO, we just in the end use the multilynch system to lynch two or three people.
You say this as if you believe people OMGUS voting on me is wrong and yet you OMGUS voted me off my strategy which you think doesn't work (it does). How does that make any sense? @Palmer ??? You have enough evidence from literally only quoting one of my posts saying that I should know sinani's meta (I don't) and that sinani is town: Show nested quote +Like he's not pro enough as scum to realize that doing something like that with his meta as scum is excellent play, and thus the simplest explanation is that sinani206 is town.
chaoser should have understood this, yet he directly OMGUS votes sinani206, even gloating about the fact he's voting multiple people. and then say: Show nested quote +This is chaoser soft-claiming a power-role. No reason to do it unless you're scum. ??? what? How does saying I'm a green townie=power role? And how does it make sense for a mafia to claim a power role in thread? if anything you should be voting for forumite... Show nested quote +I´m not following the case on Sabin010, is it only the confusion about him playing a lot IRL but none here, or something more? and people talk about me being all over the place (I'm not) Go read his cases on LSB and xsksc...they're laughable...
Why not vote forumite if you think he is scummy?
You and I are still voting for sinani, do you think he is still the best option at the moment?
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On November 17 2011 01:30 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 02:42 chaoser wrote:On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit. We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are. Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit. Oh, hi kibbibit  ##Vote Nisani201 LAL LAL LAL LAL ##Vote: Forumite
Oh right, forgot about the multi lynch thing. at least I lasted about a day before saying something dumb.
What do you think about sinani though? are you of the opinion everyone else is that he will just look scummy no matter what? and therefore shouldnt be lynched?
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Cyber, why vote coagulation and not sinani? They are both lurking, but sinani os far more scummy about it in my opinion.
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Have to agree with the majority here, while I was on the fence about kenpachi until now, the unvote by lanaia gives both a ton of explaining to do.
##Vote: Lanaia
##Vote: Kenpachi
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On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi
perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him?
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On November 17 2011 06:33 Lanaia wrote:
Whatever. You guys seriously think I'm scum over that?
I just fail to understand why you guys would rather lynch him over sinani. That is the only reason I did it.
Also, in retrospect, I have no idea why the hell I did that d1.
That should be changed soon.
Or you could try to convince people in the thread to vote sinani? Plus this is a multi lynch system, people can vote both sinani and kenpachi if they so choose.
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On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him? If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.
This is a good point, Lanaia you aren't off the hook yet, but explain to me why you decided to try and save kenpachi. Do you believe he is town?
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On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead?
Lemon, what do you think of risk's response?
On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.
##Vote Kenpachi perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him? If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.
Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet.
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On November 17 2011 07:21 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I'm going to hold off voting on Lanaia for now. While double voting or anti-voting is certainly powerful for both scum and for town, it is a lot less useful for scum if it is prominently announced for all to see on the vote list. If Lanaia is town, presumably scum will eventually settle the issue. If Lanaia is scum, it will be hard for her to use her ability without blatantly giving things away later on. Also, unless she thought her anti-vote would be hidden, I find it hard to believe scum would be so brash on day 1.
That being said, I am going to vote for Drazerk. I said if he didn't give a good reason for his vote I'd be voting for him, and I intend to follow through on that. He seems to like trumpeting the fact that he has generally sucked as town, and overall I think his contributions have not exactly been helping to create a good town atmosphere. His repeated mentions of how much he has screwed up as town in the past combined with his plethora of 1 liners and votes with little reason behind them makes it seem like he is trying to play anti-town and get away with it because it's just his meta.
Vote: Drazerk
Now I'm going to reread the thread some and see if there is someone else I'd like to place a vote on as well.
HoD your vote is formated incorrectly, you forgot the ##.
yea Lemon thats the view I hold now, but im going to wait until lanaia gets back and can explain his behavior further before I decide wether or not to unvote him.
Also Drazek/Chaoser, I was Doctor Whooves in MLP mafia, and the only time i got a red check he died that night.
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On November 17 2011 07:34 Hiroruby wrote:
I don't have time to post much right now, but I've read the thread, and really don't like what went down between Lana, and Ken.
##Vote: Lanaia
##Vote: Kenpachi
I need to do a more in depth read of Chao before I vote him, because he is getting very close to over 50%.
With 26 alive, that means at any point in the day if someone reaches 14 that person is condemned to death no matter what.
Choaser is still a bit off from this amount, but we do need to wait until at least until the latter end of day1 before we add on any more votes.
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On November 17 2011 08:32 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 08:22 Drazerk wrote:On November 17 2011 08:18 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 18:14 Drazerk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:33 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Calling out lurkers? Sure thing! And then we have hyshes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=132738As mentioned above, there is also Coagulation. I may very well be missing some, but hyshes and risk stood out to me since I played with them in my previous game. If we want to include people with more posts that are just all useless...well then the list becomes much longer :-) Hyshes is still very new I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post much on day one + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:31 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. yes No yes no Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 08:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 08:18 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 18:14 Drazerk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:33 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:Calling out lurkers? Sure thing! And then we have hyshes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=132738As mentioned above, there is also Coagulation. I may very well be missing some, but hyshes and risk stood out to me since I played with them in my previous game. If we want to include people with more posts that are just all useless...well then the list becomes much longer :-) Hyshes is still very new I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post much on day one + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2011 17:31 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. yes No yes No. Why are you discussing it still, and frankly, how are you this useless? yes
So many posts in such a little timespan that say 0 things.
My brain hurts.
So palmar, I assume you are for double lynching both lanaia and kenpachi?
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Lanaia took away the anit-vote, so we are back at 12
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Alright, I've finally caught up and have decided to:
##Unvote: Lanaia
My reason being I don't feel its nessesary anymore for both kenpachi and her to die right now. On top of that, her role will be easy to keep in check as it gives us her name in the vote thread when she uses her power. This doesnt mean I think she is super towney, but I'm not getting that scum feel from her right now.
However I did just look over prplhz and I found a lot of one line posts, votes without reasoning, and all-caps posts to make up for said reasoning.
##Vote: Prplhz
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On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk.
At the moment I am pretty unsure about Chaoser. Although he did throw his votes around a bit earlier on, he isn't reacting to this pressure like I would imagine a scum chaoser would. So my read on him is null at best.
I think Sinani is a very good lynch option today. you need not go further than his filter. He is being dissmissive, diffucult, not truly answering questions, and providing shit reasoning for voting people. However, if we are uncomfortable with a sinani lynch today, One thing Chaoser did do was bring my attention to Hiroruby. In addition to the case chaoser made against him (which he hasn't responded to) I would like to point out that at the beginning of the game he made 2 very long posts detailing policy, answering questions, ect. but when it came time to actually give opinions and contribute his posting fell quite short. I think he is at least a better lynch than prplhz, so with that:
##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Hiroruby
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On November 18 2011 04:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 04:29 GreYMisT wrote:On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk. At the moment I am pretty unsure about Chaoser. Although he did throw his votes around a bit earlier on, he isn't reacting to this pressure like I would imagine a scum chaoser would. So my read on him is null at best. I think Sinani is a very good lynch option today. you need not go further than his filter. He is being dissmissive, diffucult, not truly answering questions, and providing shit reasoning for voting people. However, if we are uncomfortable with a sinani lynch today, One thing Chaoser did do was bring my attention to Hiroruby. In addition to the case chaoser made against him (which he hasn't responded to) I would like to point out that at the beginning of the game he made 2 very long posts detailing policy, answering questions, ect. but when it came time to actually give opinions and contribute his posting fell quite short. I think he is at least a better lynch than prplhz, so with that: ##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Hiroruby If we discount the setup discussion posts, that leaves the last three, and he's just another lurker based on those. his filter is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=121997
What I'm saying is that making those early posts is very easy to do as mafia, and can get you some effortless town cred. then he dissapeared once we started discussing stuff. This is why he is different from the other lurkers.
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about 6 hours are left in the day correct?
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Its not because Chaoser "approves." Even though they are lurking, at least the people you mentioned have put some work/original thought into their posts. the fact that hiroruby hasnt is the reason I think he is better than those other three.
I have to write a Biology paper, but I should be back before the night post.
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the day ends at 11:00 KST, so i believe about 5:30.
Back to writing my paper...
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