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HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 30 2011 04:15 GMT
#2501
Wow you guys were quite convinced I was a cop...in my first game I played at some point it was mentioned that I was likely to be a cop as well. Maybe my play fits cop meta? As for being cautious on hammering Kenpachi, it was because I felt he was town, but didn't actually have any real analysis to back it up, just a gut feeling. I was hoping to give him time to make posts that cleared him more as a townie, rather than his one liners up until that point.

The longer the game went on, the more obvious it became that Greymist was scum...no idea how you didn't get lynched on the last day. I think everyone that listed a scum team in the dead player QT listed him as scum. Also, no idea why DCLXVI got lynched, just because of the miller thing. Two scum visiting Tyrran night 1 just makes no sense, and they had the guilty check on cyber. Additionally, lemon really needed to rolecheck either DCLXVI (to clear him 100%) or Zephirdd (to see if he was lying scum) on the night he checked WBG. Lynch Greymist + either of those happening = town win

As for Zephirdd, I noticed his posts were either a bit timid/newbish or a bit scummy early on, but decided on newbish, wrong call. T_T

gg mafia, although I think town did all the hard work for you :-D
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
November 30 2011 04:15 GMT
#2502
ITT: wbg is a scumhunting god but died before he could lynch you all
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 04:16 GMT
#2503
On November 30 2011 13:15 redFF wrote:
ITT: wbg is a scumhunting god but died before he could lynch you all


-_-
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 30 2011 04:17 GMT
#2504
Was there any mechanic preventing a mass lynch of all but one player?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 04:18:16
November 30 2011 04:17 GMT
#2505
On November 30 2011 13:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Was there any mechanic preventing a mass lynch of all but one player?

More than 5 lynches = noone dies.
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 30 2011 04:17 GMT
#2506
yea
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 04:18 GMT
#2507
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 04:19:33
November 30 2011 04:18 GMT
#2508
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.

Go back and read that part in the game, it's true. Nobody had a legitimate case on him.
You were being Palmar's sheep by then, so I can see why you legitimately believed it.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 30 2011 04:20 GMT
#2509
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.

On November 18 2011 16:03 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Regarding Nisani, this is the only post of his I really dislike:
Show nested quote +
Just read through the thread. A lot of shit is going down.

But most of it is irrelevant. Kenpachi is not irrelevant. He should die.

##Vote: Kenpachi
Other than that I don't see anything that makes me want to get my pitchfork out.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 04:20 GMT
#2510
On November 30 2011 13:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.

Go back and read that part in the game, it's true. Nobody had a legitimate case on him.


again, you can't say that when you were scum.

Most townies who play like nisani can get easily lynched because their very style of play is anti-town.

Hell, you could get me lynched too if I push the wrong people and I'm too loud about it. If you can prove I'm a distraction to town you can make a valid case that I'm anti-town and should be lynched.

The simple fact that we couldn't get proper scum reads until certain people were lynched should tell you enough about that.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 30 2011 04:28 GMT
#2511
On November 30 2011 13:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Was there any mechanic preventing a mass lynch of all but one player?


the lynch fails if 6 or more are lynched at once.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 30 2011 04:30 GMT
#2512
On November 30 2011 13:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.

Go back and read that part in the game, it's true. Nobody had a legitimate case on him.


again, you can't say that when you were scum.

Most townies who play like nisani can get easily lynched because their very style of play is anti-town.

Hell, you could get me lynched too if I push the wrong people and I'm too loud about it. If you can prove I'm a distraction to town you can make a valid case that I'm anti-town and should be lynched.

The simple fact that we couldn't get proper scum reads until certain people were lynched should tell you enough about that.

Point out HOW he was anti-town, don't just keep repeating yourself because he was questioning you/Palmar/me.
If anything, he was right to question it.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 30 2011 04:32 GMT
#2513
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.


Yes you can. Scum often post logical and "correct" things that seem Pro-Town. It's not like the role PM causes them to start dropping hints that they are Scum in their posts.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 04:37 GMT
#2514
On November 16 2011 09:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
Please elaborate how making cases out of nothing does anything to pressure scum?

As soon as you make a baseless case on a scummy or dummy townie they can begin fabricating analysis. In fact, you could lead the whole thread to believe your target is scum when there is no real reason for them to be scum in the first place.

I think we should approach this game more carefully. We have multiple lynches but we will be hurting ourselves if we end up lynching multiple townies instead of scum.


this is why chaoser was scummy to me.

Why make cases out of nothing? That's incredibly distracting.

On November 17 2011 10:02 Nisani201 wrote:
Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy.

##Vote: Palmar


On November 17 2011 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?

Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.

##Vote: Forumite


On November 18 2011 05:28 Nisani201 wrote:
WBG you are so wrong... I provided a reason for every single one my votes.


This is the definition of antitown.

Like four votes day 1, all substantiated with two lines or less.

It just creates a mess. None of these were productive. It just led to people thinking Nisani was scummy.

On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.

Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?

##Vote: Drazerk



On November 17 2011 08:55 Nisani201 wrote:
Just read through the thread. A lot of shit is going down.

But most of it is irrelevant. Kenpachi is not irrelevant. He should die.

##Vote: Kenpachi


wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 04:37 GMT
#2515
On November 30 2011 13:32 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.


Yes you can. Scum often post logical and "correct" things that seem Pro-Town. It's not like the role PM causes them to start dropping hints that they are Scum in their posts.


yes, but as scum you have a bias because you know who is town and who isn't.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 30 2011 04:39 GMT
#2516
here was the course of action I was going to follow on my last day, I didn't bother in the end mostly because people went silent, but partly because I subbed in to XLVII.
+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my current plan:
-SCUMTEAM: PALMAR LEMON BUM
-TOWN: DCL LANAIA
-OTHER: GREY SABIN ZEPH TYRRAN
--------------------------------------------------------------
-lemon walrus didn't breadcrumb
-lemon didnt check DCLXVI, excuse to lynch a tonwie?
-palmar is only confirmed by lemonwalrus who waited until after palmar had declared his role
-stop using lemon there, place vote and be done with it
-palmars ##fistbumps for a teammate
-palmar clears bum and rol at once, kills rol next night, bum now looks town
-don't focus any more on bum, keep the attention palmars way.
-add in palmars bad decisions so far, killing chaoser and how he 'read' prplhz's alignment so well primarily
-his role is a great excuse to be voting on a lot of townies
-other palmar, search filter.

-wbg/tyrran following palmars votes, regardless of palmars alignment is scummy: Judging by wbg's flip not worth pursuing yet.

-sabin, up for modkills, dont bother with him
-protect lanaia, with coag's flip be ready to believe her
--------------------------------------------------------------
How much of that do I follow, how much do I leave out.
If DCL and I were both scum, I wouldn't be sitting back.
-revised the note below for a start on this, feedback plz

Revision 1: zeph says to leave tyrran out of it, I agree. Moved to other, added clear borders
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 30 2011 04:40 GMT
#2517
On November 30 2011 13:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:32 Ace wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.


Yes you can. Scum often post logical and "correct" things that seem Pro-Town. It's not like the role PM causes them to start dropping hints that they are Scum in their posts.


yes, but as scum you have a bias because you know who is town and who isn't.


And why does that matter if you're doing something that doesn't show that bias?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 30 2011 04:40 GMT
#2518
On November 30 2011 13:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:32 Ace wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.


Yes you can. Scum often post logical and "correct" things that seem Pro-Town. It's not like the role PM causes them to start dropping hints that they are Scum in their posts.


yes, but as scum you have a bias because you know who is town and who isn't.

That doesn't mean you don't have to find the scummiest townies, or find good reasons to lynch the ones that aren't so scummy.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 30 2011 04:41 GMT
#2519
On November 30 2011 13:40 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 13:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:32 Ace wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 30 2011 13:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Nisani wasn't even scummy, he just disagreed with Palmar.


lol you can't say that when you were scum.


Yes you can. Scum often post logical and "correct" things that seem Pro-Town. It's not like the role PM causes them to start dropping hints that they are Scum in their posts.


yes, but as scum you have a bias because you know who is town and who isn't.


And why does that matter if you're doing something that doesn't show that bias?


of course it matters.

The most anti-town players in this game were town!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 30 2011 04:43 GMT
#2520
Wow that sucks :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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