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On November 30 2011 12:38 GreYMisT wrote:
WBG: I was actually going to go along with your logic and lynch eveyone who didnt vote coag, including me, if i was still pressured the last day. in the hopes that we could lynch enough people that the platform would fail.
Would have been hard, but awesome.
at some point I remember saying something like "if you lynch these five players all the scum will be dead" or something like that.
I was wrong, we'd have only scored 3, but the last one was Zephirdd and he was one of the ones I had considered subbing in for the others.
I actually never bothered to make the case on him for whatever reason, I don't even remember why. I was actually fairly angry at how the game was going.
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and also I was super mad you didn't get lynched, greymist. You were like one of the only players who was on every lynch except for Coag's. It was mind boggling to watch cyber get lynched but not you. I was like wtf??!?!?!
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On November 30 2011 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
and also I was super mad you didn't get lynched, greymist. You were like one of the only players who was on every lynch except for Coag's. It was mind boggling to watch cyber get lynched but not you. I was like wtf??!?!?!
haha yea, im slippery
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On November 30 2011 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
and also I was super mad you didn't get lynched, greymist. You were like one of the only players who was on every lynch except for Coag's. It was mind boggling to watch cyber get lynched but not you. I was like wtf??!?!?!
Between being seen at Tyrran's night 1 without great reason, not adapting my claim, and a real town tracker flipped, there was too much evidence that threw doubt on me. All they had on grey was a line or two you wrote before I had to kill you.
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meh whatever.
apologies town, I gave up after two days of trying to wade through things I couldn't understand. I should've tried harder.
gj scum.
EDIT: Also I disagree on you Cyber, I kinda missed you in the mess because I generally dismiss dumb stuff being said by people who have said dumb stuff as town before. (no offense). I knew that if you were scum it would be hard to tell you apart because it just is. Bad townies and scum often just look the same. When there are a ton of bad townies floating around it's even worse.
The tracker claim was horrible and you should've been lynched for it but the town was a disorganized mess. We couldn't tell head nor tail of anything that was going on because there was too much derping.
anyway,
Thanks Zona for hosting! and zbot you too u so cuuuuute
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I actually had a fakeclaim planned as the Town Experienced medic, that i could only protect people who were performing an action that night, and i would track them.
Kinda the exact opposite of kenpachi's role
so many medics though i thought it safter to claim vanilla.
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On November 30 2011 12:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
lol
dont laugh at me, its a cool idea!
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there's no point in ever role claiming as scum unless it makes sense and serves a purpose.
I suppose if you suspect there's a rolecop you could probably roleclaim too but even so, if you get caught by the rolecop you just push for his lynch.
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On November 24 2011 00:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 18:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo RoL did you vote nisani/bum?
I'm all for lynching the people who bandwagoned like mad but we have to discriminate between who is more likely to be scum and who is less likely to be.
Sure, it'd be a great way to get rid of the hard decision by just killing them all now, but I think we should lynch the ones who are scummiest first and then with those flips we can start pushing into the rest of the group tomorrow.
In fact, most of the people who were on all 3 lynches are probably idiot townies. They wouldn't want that much attention on themselves. I think we need to more carefully consider those who were only on two lynches.
Basically, I say we start with nisani/bum/chaoser. I know chaoser wanted to vote prpl, so he would've actually been on two lynch bandwagons. Scum like to split their votes between two candidates when both are town. I know this because I did it myself as scum. My team would split, one half pushing one townie for lynch and the other pushing the other. No matter who won, a townie would die.
In this game, if both win, two townies die.
So let's look at the lynch and see who, if anyone, had at least 3 votes and was on either kenpachi or sinani day 1 but not the other on the same day, and then was also on prpl day 2:
Day 1:
Kenpachi(14): bumatlarge, DCLXVI, prplhz, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Palmar, GreYMisT, risk.nuke, Tyrran, Lemonwalrus Hiroruby, sinani206, Nisani201, Cyber_Cheese
sinani206(14): chaoser (would have been on prpl day 2), GreYMisT, Lanaia, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Cyber_Cheese, risk.nuke, LSB, Tyrran, Forumite, Lemonwalrus, Zephirdd, HarbingerOfDoom, hyshes
Day 2:
prplhz (12): Forumite, Drazerk, GreYMisT, Nisani201, hyshes, bumatlarge, risk.nuke, Kibibit, Sabin010, Lanaia, xsksc, Coagulation (would have been chaoser here as vote 13)
From this vote pattern alone some of the 3 voters (such as Cyber_Cheese and GreYMisT) are less likely to be scum (though we can't rule it out)
This is on the assumption that scum would split their vote to avoid as much suspicion as possible.
This means we should focus on:
bumatlarge, nisani, chaoser/mrzentor, forumite, lanaia.
All names I think are likely to bleed red.
If I missed something, let me know. At the end of the day you can't ignore what mafia aganda is. Their goal is to kill as many of us as possible and while avoiding a suspect list is good if it means not killing people its a choice they probably won't make. To be honest I don't like the weird way you are trying to use this list. Why would you vote Chaoser/Bum when they aren't high in the +3 area. Seems strange. I can almost guarantee you among those 5 I mentioned there are a couple of scum. I would happily kill them all because its a good trade. Anyone else want to contribute? Zephirdd, Nisani, DCLXVI, Greymist, Cyber_cheese, Lanaia, Forumite These 7, kill them all. I welcome analysis on them if anyone wants to do it.
This is what I was laughing at greymist. I only missed your two inactive members ;P I was too lazy to actually ever do analysis, but I knew using this method would kill a good bunch of you.
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yea, but the platform would have failed, unless you wanted to do it over time
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On November 30 2011 12:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
there's no point in ever role claiming as scum unless it makes sense and serves a purpose.
I suppose if you suspect there's a rolecop you could probably roleclaim too but even so, if you get caught by the rolecop you just push for his lynch.
and i was saving that claim unless i needed to survive just one more day and use my ability once more.
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On November 30 2011 13:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 00:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On November 23 2011 18:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo RoL did you vote nisani/bum?
I'm all for lynching the people who bandwagoned like mad but we have to discriminate between who is more likely to be scum and who is less likely to be.
Sure, it'd be a great way to get rid of the hard decision by just killing them all now, but I think we should lynch the ones who are scummiest first and then with those flips we can start pushing into the rest of the group tomorrow.
In fact, most of the people who were on all 3 lynches are probably idiot townies. They wouldn't want that much attention on themselves. I think we need to more carefully consider those who were only on two lynches.
Basically, I say we start with nisani/bum/chaoser. I know chaoser wanted to vote prpl, so he would've actually been on two lynch bandwagons. Scum like to split their votes between two candidates when both are town. I know this because I did it myself as scum. My team would split, one half pushing one townie for lynch and the other pushing the other. No matter who won, a townie would die.
In this game, if both win, two townies die.
So let's look at the lynch and see who, if anyone, had at least 3 votes and was on either kenpachi or sinani day 1 but not the other on the same day, and then was also on prpl day 2:
Day 1:
Kenpachi(14): bumatlarge, DCLXVI, prplhz, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Palmar, GreYMisT, risk.nuke, Tyrran, Lemonwalrus Hiroruby, sinani206, Nisani201, Cyber_Cheese
sinani206(14): chaoser (would have been on prpl day 2), GreYMisT, Lanaia, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Cyber_Cheese, risk.nuke, LSB, Tyrran, Forumite, Lemonwalrus, Zephirdd, HarbingerOfDoom, hyshes
Day 2:
prplhz (12): Forumite, Drazerk, GreYMisT, Nisani201, hyshes, bumatlarge, risk.nuke, Kibibit, Sabin010, Lanaia, xsksc, Coagulation (would have been chaoser here as vote 13)
From this vote pattern alone some of the 3 voters (such as Cyber_Cheese and GreYMisT) are less likely to be scum (though we can't rule it out)
This is on the assumption that scum would split their vote to avoid as much suspicion as possible.
This means we should focus on:
bumatlarge, nisani, chaoser/mrzentor, forumite, lanaia.
All names I think are likely to bleed red.
If I missed something, let me know. At the end of the day you can't ignore what mafia aganda is. Their goal is to kill as many of us as possible and while avoiding a suspect list is good if it means not killing people its a choice they probably won't make. To be honest I don't like the weird way you are trying to use this list. Why would you vote Chaoser/Bum when they aren't high in the +3 area. Seems strange. I can almost guarantee you among those 5 I mentioned there are a couple of scum. I would happily kill them all because its a good trade. Anyone else want to contribute? Zephirdd, Nisani, DCLXVI, Greymist, Cyber_cheese, Lanaia, Forumite These 7, kill them all. I welcome analysis on them if anyone wants to do it. This is what I was laughing at greymist. I only missed your two inactive members ;P I was too lazy to actually ever do analysis, but I knew using this method would kill a good bunch of you.
Meanwhile, on WBG's side
On November 23 2011 18:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo RoL did you vote nisani/bum?
I'm all for lynching the people who bandwagoned like mad but we have to discriminate between who is more likely to be scum and who is less likely to be.
Sure, it'd be a great way to get rid of the hard decision by just killing them all now, but I think we should lynch the ones who are scummiest first and then with those flips we can start pushing into the rest of the group tomorrow.
In fact, most of the people who were on all 3 lynches are probably idiot townies. They wouldn't want that much attention on themselves. I think we need to more carefully consider those who were only on two lynches.
Basically, I say we start with nisani/bum/chaoser. I know chaoser wanted to vote prpl, so he would've actually been on two lynch bandwagons. Scum like to split their votes between two candidates when both are town. I know this because I did it myself as scum. My team would split, one half pushing one townie for lynch and the other pushing the other. No matter who won, a townie would die.
In this game, if both win, two townies die.
So let's look at the lynch and see who, if anyone, had at least 3 votes and was on either kenpachi or sinani day 1 but not the other on the same day, and then was also on prpl day 2:
Day 1:
Kenpachi(14): bumatlarge, DCLXVI, prplhz, Drazerk, Zephirdd, Palmar, GreYMisT, risk.nuke, Tyrran, Lemonwalrus Hiroruby, sinani206, Nisani201, Cyber_Cheese
sinani206(14): chaoser (would have been on prpl day 2), GreYMisT, Lanaia, DCLXVI, Drazerk, Cyber_Cheese, risk.nuke, LSB, Tyrran, Forumite, Lemonwalrus, Zephirdd, HarbingerOfDoom, hyshes
Day 2:
prplhz (12): Forumite, Drazerk, GreYMisT, Nisani201, hyshes, bumatlarge, risk.nuke, Kibibit, Sabin010, Lanaia, xsksc, Coagulation (would have been chaoser here as vote 13)
From this vote pattern alone some of the 3 voters (such as Cyber_Cheese and GreYMisT) are less likely to be scum (though we can't rule it out)
This is on the assumption that scum would split their vote to avoid as much suspicion as possible.
This means we should focus on:
bumatlarge, nisani, chaoser/mrzentor, forumite, lanaia.
All names I think are likely to bleed red.
If I missed something, let me know.
OH MAN YOU HAD US ALL!
And that is why you just saying it doesn't count in the slightest.
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On November 30 2011 13:01 GreYMisT wrote:
yea, but the platform would have failed, unless you wanted to do it over time
It wouldn't of failed since I ended up excluding DCL in a later post.
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i think it was 6 or more right?
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On November 30 2011 13:03 GreYMisT wrote:
i think it was 6 or more right?
Yeah it still would have failed if he only excluded one.
Regardless, it would have to be pushed through in halves, nobody was going to vote that many people.
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On November 26 2011 11:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
yep!
There's only 6 players who didn't vote Coag. One of them is hyshes, who is confirmed town. Another one is Lanaia, who voted Sabin. A third is xsksc, who claimed a doctor role,
This means the scumteam is most likely to be GreYMisT, Sabin010, DCLXVI, with some fourth person we need to figure out.
On November 26 2011 11:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think that fourth scum could be cyber cheese.
Did I just break the game?
I hope I did.
Cyber that was before Nisani and Forumite flipped.
After Nisani and Forumite flipped I had posted the above.
I was wrong about DCL and Lanaia, it was Zephirdd in their stead.
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Im actually surprised no one caught onto me before you did WBG, i was expecting to go down a lot earlier. i was taking a known risk pushing that many towns. honestly though i didnt think that people would actually follow my analysis, haha.
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as long as townies like Forumite and nisani were alive I probably would've never noticed the actual scum.
It was so imperative that we killed those townies that I don't think I would've ever gotten a single scumread till the thread was clear of them.
That's probably why I never paid attention to your posts. Forumite and Nisani (and chaoser to some extent) were to me so distracting that anything you, Cyber, and Zephirdd did, while still pretty bad, was completely overshadowed by them.
If you note in my posts, I keep getting confused because there's like 9 people who kept doing dumb things over and over. You guys were always in those lists but there was always someone on town who was dumber.
It was just....so bad lol
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On November 30 2011 13:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
as long as townies like Forumite and nisani were alive I probably would've never noticed the actual scum.
It was so imperative that we killed those townies that I don't think I would've ever gotten a single scumread till the thread was clear of them.
That's probably why I never paid attention to your posts. Forumite and Nisani (and chaoser to some extent) were to me so distracting that anything you, Cyber, and Zephirdd did, while still pretty bad, was completely overshadowed by them.
If you note in my posts, I keep getting confused because there's like 9 people who kept doing dumb things over and over. You guys were always in those lists but there was always someone on town who was dumber.
It was just....so bad lol
And it was our goal that the thread stayed that way, haha.
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