On November 03 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:
We will defiantly have to rely on FOSing a lot more early on in the day, rather than pressure voting like a lot of us normaly do.

One thing that will be interesting this game will be analyzing the behavior of teams. do we judge the 2 players as a unit, looking for scum behavior in both? Or is one player acting scummy enough to vote.

for the first part, i totally disagree. it's not like a pressure vote will turn into a 6 hour quicklynch, and if it does, then that's not always a bad thing. I prefer this method of voting tbh, don't look at it as a negative, but as a positive! Change is fun and exciting!

for the second part yes and yes.

LOL Red saying yes to both.

Remember PYP:I, red? Where consistently a bunch of us kept saying you were scummy as hell, but ON was reasonable? It seems rather funny that you would be willing to only use one half of the two player unit as a basis for finding scum. Had we done that in PYP:I town would've had ample reason to shoot you in the face night 1.

In answer to GreyMist's question, IMO we should consider the behavior of both players, particularly in cases where one player is known to be hard to read. If that person is paired with a relatively easy read, (damn I wish Mig was in this game hahaha) then I think we should lean more toward the person who is easier to read, for obvious reasons.

The two player unit is very good for town. It provides us more information than we would normally have, as there is more behavior and there are more posts to analyze. Or at least, I hope this is how it turns out. If town starts succumbing to inactivity (as is the norm lately) I'll be rather pissed.

whatever bro, i was really busy in pypi and barely ever posted. you don't have to be a dick especially when you agree with me. of course we consider the behavior of both players but if one guy is obv scum you dont just go other guy looks town derp.

Except I'm telling you straight up it's more complicated than that, and you should understand it simply because you and ON were that two headed monstrosity of confusion last game.

All game long I remember talking to people (including Mig, Foolish, Kav) who kept saying, damn Jacuzzisplatt is scummy as hell. It was primarily because of you. I saw what they were seeing, but I didn't believe you two were scum because ON posted very reasonably and I talked to him for quite a bit on IRC.

You, on the other hand, couldn't have been scummier.

I think basing our reads on both players is necessary, but with the caveat that if we have conflicting reads on the two halves we need to take the one that's easier to read into account.

Ex. if an incredibly easy-to-read player A looks scummy while his partner B (who is much harder to read) looks town then we should give more weight to the scum half.

yes obviously

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

November 03 2011 00:22 GMT

#223

On November 03 2011 09:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Also, we've all read our role pms. New discussion topic please.

thats easy to say what u want to talk about then if not about hyshes who talks about bad plans that can not be implemented anyway just to appear to be clever

redFF

United States3910 Posts

November 03 2011 00:32 GMT

#224

please use punctuation!

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

November 03 2011 00:32 GMT

#225

On November 03 2011 09:22 prplhz wrote:

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thats easy to say what u want to talk about then if not about hyshes who talks about bad plans that can not be implemented anyway just to appear to be clever

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

November 03 2011 00:32 GMT

#226

On November 03 2011 09:18 kitaman27 wrote:

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*wink wink*
*nudge nudge*

On November 03 2011 09:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Also, we've all read our role pms. New discussion topic please.

hiiiiiiii

Why don't you provide one, kita?

I'm waiting for chaoser to show up. He's probably working again.

Also, while flirting is fun, I'm faithful to Radfield. He's sick right now (and I think he blames me) but loyalty is number 1! Rainbow Dash would never let a wonderful partner and best friend like Radfield down.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

November 03 2011 00:32 GMT

#227

BAM, NINJA'D BY MY OTHER HALF! (you should check your irc)

GreYMisT

United States6736 Posts

November 03 2011 00:34 GMT

#228

You guys are adorable

Crofty

United Kingdom13 Posts

November 03 2011 00:35 GMT

#229

On November 03 2011 08:39 prplhz wrote:

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i would like to know how you like playing with gm so far is he being nice to u? what kind of stuff is he telling you in your qt?

Fine so far, but maybe too soon to tell. The only thing we have discussed so far, is to try and come up with a cool team name, which we both failed at, and reverted to Team Liquid.

Anyway, since you guys have been discussing about how you play, and how you have played before in the earlier games (something I wasn't part of, therefore have no data on), and blah blah blah, yackety smackety, etc. This doesn't really help much imo, and gives me little info to go by. So how about we change it to something more productive.

Since I don't know you guys, and most of you know each other, how about we start with the topic of "how do we feel about Person A being teamed up with Person B". Hopefully that will begin to give me some data on you guys, and help with posts to analyse later.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

November 03 2011 00:36 GMT

#230

@Crofty, have you been in contact with GM yet?

@iGrok, why no post yet?

Crofty

United Kingdom13 Posts

November 03 2011 00:36 GMT

#231

Yes, see my earlier post. (points up)

redFF

United States3910 Posts

November 03 2011 00:40 GMT

#232

the only combination of 2 good players is

3. Radfield & wherebugsgo

and ME AND KITA OF COURSE

Crofty

United Kingdom13 Posts

November 03 2011 00:41 GMT

#233

On November 03 2011 09:40 redFF wrote:
the only combination of 2 good players is

3. Radfield & wherebugsgo

and ME AND KITA OF COURSE

And that is because...?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

November 03 2011 00:43 GMT

#234

On November 03 2011 09:40 redFF wrote:
the only combination of 2 good players is

3. Radfield & wherebugsgo

and ME AND KITA OF COURSE

Any combination of bad players?

Also, here's the punctuation that I've been forgetting in my first couple of posts, insert at your own discretion: .-. .- .-. .. - -.-- | .. ... | -... . ... - | .--. --- -. -.--

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

November 03 2011 00:44 GMT

#235

that's a metric assload of -'s. And you use "|"? Wtf it took me like 20 seconds just to find that on my keyboard.

GMarshal

United States22154 Posts

November 03 2011 00:48 GMT

#236

Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.

Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.

##Vote: TEAM VIKING

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

November 03 2011 00:49 GMT

#237

On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.

Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.

##Vote: TEAM VIKING

Could you elaborate?

Erandorr

2283 Posts

November 03 2011 00:50 GMT

#238

On November 03 2011 09:40 redFF wrote:
the only combination of 2 good players is

3. Radfield & wherebugsgo

and ME AND KITA OF COURSE

lol

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

November 03 2011 00:55 GMT

#239

On November 03 2011 09:36 kitaman27 wrote:
@Crofty, have you been in contact with GM yet?

@iGrok, why no post yet?

I did post yet.

I've been talking with my partner so far. You know me, all I ever do is lurk the first half of D1.

I'll break this wide open end of D1 or N1, don't worry