I got Ciryandor because we've clearly been trying to coordinate in the thread. Also, you know, all the me, him, and Toad considering each other as townies as stated in the thread as well. (To be fair, Toad seems to have the slightest suspicion of Ciry) Or do you think he is just completely fooled by both of us?

Also, I can't tell if you are trolling or just scum right now. Or horribly confused.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

November 08 2011 03:21 GMT

#662

Day 4

The town of newbie-ville was in a state of panic upon hearing news that the diabolical pony cult leader had returned. The time of the Pony Apocalypse had arrived and it was judgment day for Toadesstern. Death pony was not too kind.

Toadesstern the townie has been killed.

You have 48 hours to determine the next lynch.

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 03:35 GMT

#663

Saw that coming :-(

Are you done being silly now Sermokala?

Drem903

United States100 Posts

November 08 2011 03:42 GMT

#664

wow, i was almost certain they were going to kill either Harbinger or Ciry.

Sermokala

United States13921 Posts

November 08 2011 03:59 GMT

#665

well shit.

I got nothing. I'm shocked.

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 04:06 GMT

#666

@Drem
Remember the night without a kill? They can only shoot so far up the townie ladder without a high chance of being stopped by a medic.

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 04:18 GMT

#667

On November 07 2011 10:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Day 3 Update

Toadesstern
sermokala
IMABUNNEH
~~Chocolate~~
Skrammen
Drem903

Drem903
xsksc
Toadesstern
Zanfada
HarbingerOfDoom

Now let's see...2 scum on Toad, 1 on Drem, or 3 scum on Toad? Hmm...

Ciryandor

United States3735 Posts

November 08 2011 04:27 GMT

#668

Well, I'll be fucked. They realize bussing Toad wasn't working, so they then shoot him, judging that it's unlikely for him to be protected rather than risk a medic save if they tried shoot me or Harb.

Ciryandor

United States3735 Posts

November 08 2011 04:28 GMT

#669

sermokala you have got A LOT of explaining to do after that accusation yesterday. >_>

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 04:31 GMT

#670

Day One Update
Chocolate
Skrammen

Zanfada
~~hyshes~~
Drem903

Skrammen
~~Chocolate~~
Ciryandor
~~Toadesstern~~
xsksc
Zanfada
HarbingerOfDoom

Toadesstern
hacklebeast (now sermokala)
IMABUNNEH
~~risk.nuke~~

Or, if you prefer to think of me and Ciry as town:
+ Show Spoiler +

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 04:35 GMT

#671

So Ciry...should medic claim now? Would that be wise? Worst case scenario scum counter claims, they both say who they protected each night and we take a guess on which is the liar?

Ciryandor

United States3735 Posts

November 08 2011 04:44 GMT

#672

On November 08 2011 13:35 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
So Ciry...should medic claim now? Would that be wise? Worst case scenario scum counter claims, they both say who they protected each night and we take a guess on which is the liar?

Can the Medic protect himself?

If the answer to this is no, then he should NOT do so. Even if we mislynch today, Medic should hide because we would still have a one person majority if he managed to protect the right person. Claiming would ensure a town loss because scum will just shoot him and win.

If the answer is Yes, then it's a calculated risk. Do you reveal and try to out-think scum or do you not reveal and force them to shoot blind?

A no-lynch is definitely out of the question in either case.

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 04:46 GMT

#673

Medic
You have the power to save lives. Once per night you can watch a player. If your target is attacked, you will block one hit aimed at them. If you make a successful save, you are notified of the save. You cannot save yourself.

Ciryandor

United States3735 Posts

November 08 2011 04:48 GMT

#674

As for counter-claiming... Scum probably would view it as an unnecessary risk for them.

Ciryandor

United States3735 Posts

November 08 2011 04:48 GMT

#675

On November 08 2011 13:46 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:

Show nested quote +

Okay that means it's definitely a no reveal for him in that case.

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 04:50 GMT

#676

And my thinking is, if we mislynch, we lose if he can't make a save. Scum will shoot for a town left that is not me or you, they should hit ezpz, if they aim for medic they hit him every time, everyone else...how can the medic be sure who to save?

If he claims, we have another confirmed townie in the medic.
If there is a counter-claim, if we really can't decide, we no lynch. We then take what info we can from the night kill, and go from there in a lynch of lose situation.

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 04:52 GMT

#677

Alternately, medic claims only if we pick him to be hung. If scum tries to use it as an out, real medic counter-claims, same situation as I mentioned above.

Or, another option, we no lynch today and see what the fuck is up after another night. Lynch or lose all day every day.

Sermokala

United States13921 Posts

November 08 2011 04:56 GMT

#678

I don't know what to say. If we killed toad we'd be in the same position.

Ciryandor
IMABUNNEH
Skrammen
Drem903
xsksc
Zanfada
HarbingerOfDoom

so 3 of these guys want to kill me. 4 of them don't. I'm guessing we don't have some grand tail in all things and their coach told them to get their ninja on. HOD and Ciry have talked up a bit and drem's been accused too much for me to think that hes actually scum. so xsksc zafada and bunneh I guess at this point. No chance of me being able to convince everyone else of this at this point so idk. Hod you got some sort of game plan?

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 05:00 GMT

#679

@Sermokala
I've got some hope-based play.

HarbingerOfDoom

United States508 Posts

November 08 2011 05:08 GMT

#680

@Ciry ....and I guess whoever else is town...
Options as I see it:
No medic claim -> we mislynch we lose ~80% of the time as soon as night ends, the other 20% we have to lynch correctly basically every fucking day to win it. Unsure on odds of us lynching correctly today.

No medic claim -> we no-lynch, go down to 4v3 tomorrow, hope for the best

Medic claim -> we mislynch we lose 100%. Unsure on how much this improves the odds of us lynching correctly today.

Medic claim -> we no-lynch, go down to 4v3 tomorrow, hope for the best. Unsure on how much this improves the odds of us lynching correctly vs the no claim option.

So the question is...is the info gained going to be worth it? If we are lynching today, I think I'd prefer to get a medic claim. If we aren't, we wait until tomorrow and then if medic is still alive, claim and see what we can do.

Lynch today or tomorrow, either way we'll still need every goddamn townie on board to do it.