EPTTL Mafia XLV - Page 34
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tnkted
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Jackal58
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Mig
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Also Jackal if you don't think me/curu are town at this point you never will. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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+ Show Spoiler + trollface.jpeg Erandor why would you ignore an entire page of discussion to post something about Forumite's gun jamming when the answer to your question was already in the thread? | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On September 30 2011 20:12 Forumite wrote: WBG directing checks is very pro-Scum, since there´s a framer in the scumteam. Wtf you state this like a matter of fact. No doubt at all. You the framer, Forumite? Sorry about the double, I missed this earlier. | ||
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Curu
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There's a chance Mig is scum yes, I'd put it at about 0.000000001%. If anything Palmar's flair for the dramatic would mean Jackal as his off-the-bat push is scum. I don't think it's like Palmar to just roll over and get himself lynched, which would mean it would have a purpose. Which would mean trying to get Jackal seen as Town in the event of his lynch; Palmar had to know with the way he was playing me and Mig would pick up on him immediately. There's the possibility that Palmar is aware of his bus-scum-day-1 meta but sacrificing himself to get a Townie Jackal lynched is completely worthless. It also fits in with Jackal's Cosmic Horror play of playing to gain Town cred as scum. WBG I actually lean Town on, he is not a bad enough scum player to throw himself out like that. Forumite are you mute? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On October 01 2011 03:18 Mig wrote: Either way it doesn't matter who the smurf is. Also Jackal if you don't think me/curu are town at this point you never will. I'm leaning towards you both being town atm but I've been burned by my own beliefs too many times over the last 5 or 6 games. I'm simply not willing to set it in stone atm. | ||
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Curu
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Jackal58
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Curu
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Jackal58
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Jackal58
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11564427 On September 28 2011 19:04 Forumite wrote: Mad rhymes, right? But seriously, Sevryn is acting damn scummy, and I want him to answer for it. If you think I´m mistaken, send me a PM about it, don´t take it here. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 01 2011 03:23 wherebugsgo wrote: Wtf you state this like a matter of fact. No doubt at all. You the framer, Forumite? Sorry about the double, I missed this earlier. Well the framer is the GF. In every game I've played with a GF on the role list, there has been a GF. You have any reason to believe there wouldn't be a GF WBG? | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On October 01 2011 03:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: Well the framer is the GF. In every game I've played with a GF on the role list, there has been a GF. You have any reason to believe there wouldn't be a GF WBG? Why are you asking me this? In XLIV the GF was listed as a role and didn't appear on the scumteam. I do, however, believe that Incog would make a good GF in this setup. Also, the way Forumite posted about the framer (I didn't realize that the framer/GF were the same until just now when you pointed it out) suggests he knows there exists one. Look at the manner in which he blows off me saying "DTs should check Forumite/Jackal." He doesn't say that he and Jackal are town and therefore DTs would be wasting their time checking those two players. He says that there exists a framer (sort of implying, "don't be surprised if a check returns red on me/Jackal") and accuses me of being scum because I announced to the thread that Forumite is scum. Forumite has been med fishing all game long, and he was asking for med protection for no good reason last night when we clearly have MUCH better prots. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Why are you asking me this? In XLIV the GF was listed as a role and didn't appear on the scumteam. This is exactly why I was asking. As I said, I've never had a game where the GF was listed and not been in the game, so I wanted to know if it ever happened. | ||
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Mig
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NotChezinu
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Curu
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Jackal declares uncertainty in himself in calling me and Mig Town when we are almost 100% confirmed Town and yet does not hesitate to push WBG to the point of faking a shot on him. I don't think Jackal is a high priority right now but he obviously will need looking at. The Incognito case can come from someone who has talked to him more than me. Forumite deserves a serious look. Right after me and Palmar accuse each other he declares that he wants the lynch between us two rather than Jackal or WBG but he provides no reasoning at all. The only reason he would post this is if he thought the cases against us were better than the ones on WBG/Jackal but Palmar's case on me was just as stupid as his one on Jackal. Which would mean that he would have had to think my case was better, except he didn't because he still wanted to lynch me over Palmar. He posts that he wants to see how the talk between me and Palmar goes before deciding when the case has been all laid out already. He continues to push that I am more scummy without actually commenting on either of the cases or any of the arguments that are presented, instead just pushing that I am somehow more scummy. Then Mig comes along and throws down the second analysis of Palmar, backing me up. Bam. Forumite still wants me to be lynched instead of Palmar but then says "Oh Mig has some good points." Mig's points were pretty much the same ones that I brought up in my push of Palmar (actually, me and Mig were discussing about it in Skype before either of us posted so our reasons for voting Palmar were pretty much identical) but Forumite ignores my reasoning but agrees with Mig's. Why? He obviously still wants to see my lynched rather than Palmar but with another high profile player slamming in on Palmar he has to reconsider so he doesn't look too scummy for continuing to push me. After I call out Forumite for his bullshit posts he starts softly agreeing with me on Palmar as well saying he likes parts of my analysis; oh hey where was this attitude before? Note that he still hasn't said he agrees with any part of what Palmar is saying, just that he is ignoring him (so clearly he doesn't actually think Palmar's case holds any weight) and that he likes parts of my case. This brings it back to why he would want the lynch between me and Palmar; under his posting it should be because he likes my case on Palmar but clearly that isn't it since he still continues to try to push me as the scummy one. After it is clear Palmar is going to be the one lynched Forumite switches to him because "Palmar has posted lies in his analysis." Since his pushing of me as scummy and his sudden change to Palmar, nothing has changed in the cases against either of us; all that's changed is I called Forumite out on his bullshit. He suddenly thinks Palmar's case had lies and everything in it and that Palmar was no worth voting; before it was clear Palmar was going to get lynched, not me, Forumite was conveniently not mentioning this at all when Palmar first posted his case (or when he was pushing Jackal), instead choosing to push me. Finally his actions during this night have made no sense. He covers up his slip of not knowing what the VT PM is by claiming he is a power but also claims he faked the shot to "cover up" for if Jackal was the real Sniper. A power role would never do something like this and he has self admitted he is not a VT. | ||
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