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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 07 2011 02:13 GMT
#32
/in, promised Nisani I would.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 08 2011 04:48 GMT
#59
##vote: curu
attempting a coup d'etat
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 11 2011 01:49 GMT
#99
roles plz
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 11 2011 02:12 GMT
#101
lol
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 11 2011 05:27 GMT
#106
http://www.openstack.org/
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 11 2011 15:16 GMT
#111
lol, Derpy Hooves
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 11 2011 23:53 GMT
#119
/confirm
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 12 2011 00:08 GMT
#124
On September 12 2011 09:01 Jackal58 wrote:
/Confirm

Butterflies are the coolest thing.


orly? also 999 so now i might not post for a while
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 12 2011 01:54 GMT
#141
Derpy Hooves.

not much else to say.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 13 2011 05:14 GMT
#226
Can someone who watches the show explain what Nightmare Moon is? It might be useful to help solve whatever is hidden in the post, something like the roles or numbers of the mafia.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 13 2011 14:10 GMT
#251
Goddamnit you guys.

7/13 = 53.85%

nubs
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 13 2011 14:10 GMT
#252
(it takes 7 to lynch not 8)
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 01:30 GMT
#316
Curu, dramatic entrances don't add to your town cred.

I'm sorry that I get home from school at 9:00 Eastern. It's not twenty-four hours in and I just got back from school. I really should be doing my homework right now, but I decided to check the game, and apparently I'm a "lurker" now. I live in Los Angeles, so I'm going to post after you East Cost people.

Anyway, I don't think we should have backed off of the pressure on Forumite when we started talking about lurkers. We had a lynch candidate before, but now we want to lynch lurkers. What? Lurkers are supposed to be the last priority lynch.

##Vote: dreamflower for even bringing up the subject of lynching a lurker.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 02:16 GMT
#322
On September 14 2011 11:08 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:49 chaos13 wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:27 GreYMisT wrote:
Sinani Hasn't been on the past two pages, are we talking about the same player?


Ctrl+F sinani on Page 15. You were even talking about him, so I don't know how you could have missed that lol


I just did a search for sinani on page 15 and he has not posted there, his name apears14 times on that page, and only in the messages of other people. His last post was (aside from the most recent one on this page where he votes dreamflower for suggesting to lynch lurkers on day1...) found on page 13 of this thread and it was the following

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On September 13 2011 23:10 sinani206 wrote:
(it takes 7 to lynch not 8)


Hopefully that will end this senseless tangent.

Now Sinani, do you have a better reason for voting dreamflower other than the fact he/she voted for you? Dont say because he/she wants to lynch lurkers because thats something quite a few of us decided might be the best thing to do play a page back.


This is a pressure vote, to prompt an answer to my question, "Why lynch a lurker if we have a perfectly good other lynch candidate?"

I don't understand why other people can pressure vote me, but I can't pressure vote others.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 03:51 GMT
#346
On September 14 2011 12:32 Nisani201 wrote:
1. Sinani has not trolled in this game (yet)

2. Discussion on game mechanics should NOT be frowned upon on D1, as that is how discussion is started.

3. The post about majority lynches was within the context of the game, as people were using the wrong number. This is a common symptom of using the filter button without gathering context.

4. It is true that he didn't mention the "other lynch candidate," but it's not scummy. I'll just ask nicely.

Sinani206, who is the "other lynch candidate" you mentioned earlier?


Forumite.

Curu, you're a fucking idiot by the way.
I just want you to die ASAP.

##Unvote
##Vote: Curu
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 03:55 GMT
#349
On September 14 2011 12:40 Curu wrote:
You agreed with lynch all lurkers. Hell, you voted for DroneAllDay for that reason.

sinani is lurking and his play is incredibly Anti Town. Is there a reason why you're willing to accept lynch lurkers but not lynch sinani?

It's not explicitly scummy to discuss game mechanics but it is when you do nothing else except come in to throw a bullshit chainsaw vote.

I love how when I came in to push sinani I get two people chainsawing me with blanket statements with no reasoning. To his credit Nisani actually explained but chaos still hasn't pointed out why he is voting me.


Also, I WASN'T FUCKING VOTING FOR DF BECAUSE SHE WAS VOTING FOR ME.

I was pressuring her for starting the whole "lynch lurkers" business.

Maybe if you'd read my fucking posts instead of seeing my name pressing quote and then replying to what I did last game.

I'm sorry I fucked up in Ace's game.

Yes, I fucked up.

I will admit that.

I may have even single handedly let scum win.

But I'm not going to do that this game.

You have to understand that.

My screwup was not meant to be a personal insult to you, so I don't know why you are insulting me and my play back.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 03:55 GMT
#350
On September 14 2011 12:53 GMarshal wrote:
Before anyone gets angry and loses their heads, I remind everyone that Equestria has laws about being nice... and I will be enforcing them with banishment (modkills)

ninja'd sorry. i'll keep my french to myself next time.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 03:58 GMT
#352
yeah...
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 04:06 GMT
#355
On September 14 2011 12:59 Curu wrote:
Yet you vote me for pushing you too. That's twice now.

What's scummy about proposing to lynch lurkers on day 1? That's enough reason for you to want to lynch her?

What about your "perfectly good candidate" Forumite? How do you feel about him now?


I don't want to lynch her for that, I just wanted an answer to my question and the best way to get an answer is to pressure someone. I thought I'd already explained that.

The Forumite lynch is long gone, I was just using that as an example of my point.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 04:27 GMT
#358
On September 14 2011 13:16 GreYMisT wrote:

Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:30 sinani206 wrote:

Anyway, I don't think we should have backed off of the pressure on Forumite when we started talking about lurkers. We had a lynch candidate before, but now we want to lynch lurkers. What? Lurkers are supposed to be the last priority lynch.


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On September 14 2011 13:06 sinani206 wrote:


The Forumite lynch is long gone, I was just using that as an example of my point.


Lynches aren't dust in the wind, they don't just "go away." If you have additional evidence or analysis on Forumite that would constitute a lynch, I would love to hear it.


I don't, though. That was just an example.

Also, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggggggggggh ON, why did you have to leave?
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 04:41 GMT
#360
On September 14 2011 13:32 Curu wrote:
Calling everyone scum? I called sinani a great policy lynch and Anti Town. You see no problem with either chaos's or your votes on me? chaos went from super confident in Forumite to "nevermind he's not getting lynched today" to voting for me because "you tell me what's wrong with this." Your vote was equally scummy, although you did elaborate afterwards. You're going awfully far to twist my words.

Your double standards are pretty hilarious. You wanted to vote for DroneAllDay because he was lurking but not for sinani even though he was also lurking? looooooooooool

tnkted and dreamflower, I'd like your thoughts on DroneAllDay and Lucidity.

sinani how is the Forumite lynch long gone? He was the only one picking up serious votes. Who do you think is scummy right now? I know you'll say me because I voted for you, but who else?

WBG you seem to agree with me on sinani (you were in that game too) but how come your vote never moved?

sevyrn you got a single original thought? All I see is you sheeping chaos13 around.

chaos13 went from super convicted and huge walls of text on Forumite to "he's not going to get lynched today" (huh, there wasn't even any other candidate, what made you say that?) to voting for me with a complete blanket reason that he declines to explain or respond to me about.

tnkted has kept his vote on me because ON was a lurker. I'm obviously not lurking. Offer up some more thoughts, on me or whoever else because you don't have that excuse anymore.


I wouldn't say you because you voted for me, but because you're being super scummy.
No one answer these questions either, it's a way for scum to get info.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 04:56 GMT
#366
On September 14 2011 13:46 Curu wrote:
Ok you think I'm scummy fair enough. For what reasons?

AND LOL, are you fucking serious? Scum don't need info, the advantage Mafia has over Town is that THEY HAVE INFO. Town wins by getting info from people and forming reads based on them.

This is such a ridiculously Pro Mafia mindset. You're basically promoting people to lurk and not do anything.


[image loading]

Yes, I am fucking serious.
Polls are bullshit.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 05:24 GMT
#370
On September 14 2011 14:14 Curu wrote:
Throwing one vote onto someone with herpaderp is not pressure. What I pushed was real pressure and it flushed out two scummy scum.

To anyone else reading the thread:

-Nisani wants to lynch lurkers but doesn't want to lynch sinani, actually defends him and says he has done nothing scummy (when he wants to lynch DroneAllDay for lurking).

-sinani votes for dreamflower for wanting to lynch lurkers, conveniently ignoring that his scumbuddy Nisani pushed the exact same lynch lurkers idea.
I was looking through the thread and saw that dreamflower was the first to begin the lurker-lynching. Nothing more, nothing less. Also how can I have a scumbuddy if I'm town?
-sinani thinks Town doesn't benefit from getting information from people, only Mafia does (lolWUT?)
Way to twist my words lol

Contradictions and agendas, contradictions and agendas everywhere.


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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 05:36 GMT
#372
On September 14 2011 14:31 Curu wrote:
Then explain your words. You said no one will answer questions because that's giving info to the Mafia. What exactly does Mafia stand to gain from that info? How does Town not benefit from that info?

You two haven't even given a thought to each other being scum despite the fact that you both were willing to vote other players for doing the exact same things. You attack me as scummy and refuse to offer any other read but when asked for a reason why you think I'm scummy you provide a troll picture. Biggest non-answer in the world, why? Because you can't actually find anything scummy, you're just busy pushing your agenda.

The only Townie explanation is if you are both alignment confirmed Masons. And I highly doubt that.


sure, Nisani could be scum just as much as anyone else in the game... I haven't said that, for example, chaos is scummy, does that mean that we're scumbuddies?
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 06:08 GMT
#392
On September 14 2011 14:39 Curu wrote:
How about you address the whole post instead of the one part of it that you can give a null answer to.

Explain what you meant about the "info is only good for Mafia." You say I'm twisting your words, explain your meaning then.

And explain what makes me your top scumread besides the fact that I am voting for you.


herpaderp

I'm multitasking atm, don't expect immediate responses lol. Be happy that I'm spending my night doing this.

I never said "info is only good for mafia." Polls are scummy because they can have info that is specific to scum in them. A townie has no use for a poll because they can just ask the question one by one through regular discussion. Scum uses polls to get a sense of everything going on so they can "blend in." I'm not going to argue this point anymore, as it's getting unnecessary.

You are scummy because of your poll and your quick vote for me as soon as you were put into the game without putting any thought into it. I explained your thought process in my comic on the previous page.
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 14 2011 14:07 GMT
#411
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 14 2011 19:55 Lucidity wrote:
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On September 14 2011 00:18 dreamflower wrote:
At the moment, I am more in favor of lynching an inactive, because town lurkers still don't help the town if they're not sharing their thoughts or giving us information and Mafia lurkers are, well, Mafia. I am currently unconvinced by the cases so far, as they tend to be based on post-by-post analyses of posts made on Day 1, when most of us were unsure of what we should be discussing or trying to accomplish. Generally, I tend to be skeptical of post-by-post analysis, as they often are just nitpicking at small contradictions or confusing phrases in posts that perhaps the poster just didn't think through clearly and they seem to assume that Mafia will give themselves away a little in every post, which they usually don't. Right now, the cases made against Forumite and Greymist strike me as being more like townies accusing townies, so I'm hesitant to vote for a lynch based on those cases.

I did think it was a little odd that Forumite asked for a DT check on Jackal. But it seems like Jackal is a pretty well-known player, so I suppose it makes sense that he is subject to the scrutiny that well-known players tend to receive, like Ver or Ace. Jackal himself also seems quieter than I expected, though perhaps that is only because it is so early in the game.

So, I would much prefer lynching a lurker right now. The lurkers that stand out most to me are Sevryn and DroneAllDay. Of these two, the latter has specifically stated that he is very new and will be lurking a lot, which on one hand could be an honest statement of confusion but on the other hand could be a Mafia trying to look like a clueless newbie. The former, Sevryn, has made only a few game-related, non-pony-discussing posts, most regarding the Day post and how it'll give us more to talk about. Yet, he himself hasn't said anything substantial after the Day post except "Oh yay Day post. So, what are the Elements of Harmony?" I would very much like to hear from these two players sometime soon. I also wouldn't mind hearing about everyone's thoughts regarding the merits and flaws of lynching inactives versus lynching someone in particular.


Essentially this post served two purposes:

  • Introducing the idea of really attempting to lynch a lurker today. Getting a feel for our willingness to follow such a strategy with the last sentence.
  • Discrediting the cases brought forward so far.


Lynching lurkers should be a last resort. Going after lurkers (and by lurkers she actually means INACTIVES) allows scum to not offer any opinions and simply sheep onto an easy vote. This is not an ideal situation to say the least.

She discredits the cases against Forumite and Greymist, by simply saying that she doesn't like post by post analysis and that she thinks townies are accusing townies. Could you explain why you think townies are accusing townies dreamflower? You offer no reason to doubt the case based on actual discussion points. Simply "oh I'm unconvinced".

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On September 14 2011 00:25 dreamflower wrote:
Bah. And now that I posted, Sevryn has posted and even voted for Forumite. -_- I'm still a little cautious about the case on Forumite, as people seem to be basing it mostly on that one post and making him defend his ideas. I agree that his defense has also been inept, but I don't think it necessarily means he is Mafia.

For now, I guess I will just vote for DroneAllDay. And learn to refresh the page a lot better while I'm posting.

##vote DroneAllDay


Note the displeasure when she sees that someone else voted Forumite. So instead of waiting for other's opinions on the LaL strategy she proposed, she goes ahead with it to try and divert attention away from real scum hunting by voting for DroneAllDay.

Look at the reasoning in that post.

    She is visibly upset with another vote on Forumite.
    She thinks his defense is inept.
    But somehow he does not deserve any attention.
    Instead she "guesses" she'll vote for DroneAllDay.


Point? She's defending Forumite with no real reasoning. She puts her vote on an inactive, not a lurker.

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On September 14 2011 02:23 dreamflower wrote:
On September 14 2011 00:32 Jackal58 wrote:
Dreamflower lynching inactives is counter productive. Inactives are most likely going to be mod killed. Lurkers on the other hand are a different animal. There is a difference between the two. When you said inactives I'm pretty sure you were still referring to lurkers.


Ah, true. Yes, I was referring to lurkers when I said inactives. My apologies. A lot of my thinking still dates back to the olden days before inactivity modkills or the Ban List, so please excuse me if I phrase things oddly like that.

I also agree about OriginalName, whom I'm a little annoyed about not noticing myself. I also noticed that DroneAllDay's statement of Mafia newness came very soon after he signed up and long before roles were sent out, so that pretty much rules out his being a Mafia trying to masquerade as a newbie. My mistake there. OriginalName's one contribution to the thread after the Day post has been to call Forumite's post "a huge pile of fluff," but after that he hasn't said anything else at all. That does look more like lurking than outright inactivity.

To add my own opinion on the merits of lynching lurkers, I think it is a good idea early on, when we don't have much information to work with. I agree that lynching lurkers doesn't yield much information afterward, but I don't think going after "real" targets always does either. The people who argue for a townie to be lynched or vote for their lynch are not necessarily Mafia themselves. So, I don't think either approach can give us much in the way of useful information.


The part highlighted in red essentially explains why ON is where her vote should be. DroneAllDay is an inactive, which she doesn't want to go for. She wants lurkers, and ON is one. Yet her vote stays on DroneAllDay. She dedicates an entire paragraph to explaining why DAD is a bad vote, and then doesn't change it.

Then she goes on to try and push the LaL objective. We shouldn't be lynching for information. DEFINITELY not on Day 1. We should be hunting scum. Lynching lurkers (inactives) is not scum hunting. It doesn't give us any information, which you think is important? Yet you still advocate lynching lurkers. Going after "real" targets actually DOES offer us information ito voting patterns, defenses e t c . Not that, that is our first priority, but it blows your LaL policy out of the water.

tl;dr

Defends Forumite and greymist with no reasoning.
Pushes anti-town objective of lynching inactives instead of scum hunting.

(Note that she really means inactives when she says lurkers, even though she indicated otherwise. Her posts make that clear enough.)



I'm glad some one agrees with me. Off to school, be back at 9-ish EDT
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 15 2011 02:02 GMT
#471
lol i think i might win an award for most deaths as town day 1
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sinani206
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United States1959 Posts
September 15 2011 02:20 GMT
#481
yup
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sinani206
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United States1959 Posts
September 16 2011 04:50 GMT
#542
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sinani206
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United States1959 Posts
September 18 2011 15:33 GMT
#726

all this mason and honesty shit makes me glad i got lynched early
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 18 2011 17:47 GMT
#730
On September 19 2011 01:39 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 00:33 sinani206 wrote:

all this mason and honesty shit makes me glad i got lynched early
Scum!

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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 23 2011 01:39 GMT
#1417
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 24 2011 03:21 GMT
#1464
MY READS WERE RIGHT AGAIN FUCK YOU ALL GOODNIGHT
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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
September 24 2011 03:28 GMT
#1466
i know
+ Show Spoiler +
but do you believe me?
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