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On September 19 2011 08:07 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:14 tnkted wrote:
Lucidity, buddy, I want you to convince me since you are acting so town right now. Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:59 tnkted wrote:
Guys, we need 5 votes to lynch if GM ignores the modkills/replacements in the voting count. I still think we should lynch lucidity, he's our best option right now (not a very good one, but still, he's our best). The alternative is a nolynch, which I don't think anyone wants. Erm? And nice work on the false dilemma. The alternative is LYNCHING SCUM IN WBG. Not a no lynch. And riddle me this: Why did WBG vote for both you and Jackal at a stage that he claims he believed you were town? Please read the part of my analysis on WBG that deals with you and the claims at least. And comment on it. Why am I more scummy than WBG? Everyone that votes for me needs to state this clearly so that we can find the scum on me after I die. @Everyone: I haven't played with tnkted before. Is he considered a good player?
He's like me. Much better on day 3 than day 1. But unlike me he's also insane. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8520723
So who all is still here and how much time do we have left?
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On September 19 2011 08:33 Lucidity wrote:
Ok I need to go to sleep now.
If I end up being lynched it should be easy to find the scum on me.
tnkted has refused to respond to my defense of his analysis on me. He has called me "very town" but still thinks I should be lynched. If he is considered a good player, his play has been very bad this game. Since Day 2 I have operated under the assumption that he was just a derping townie, but if he is actually pushing an agenda and I get lynched I don't think we should discount the possibility that he gambited by giving his element to Jackal.
If Forumite ends up on my lynch he is easily scum. Please look at my posts regarding him in the early game and chaos' case against him. Since Night 1 Forumite has only posted Fluff and talked about the elements. His only attempt at scum hunting was an extremely weak case against me. He has now stated that he doesn't believe I'm scum anymore so that's self explanatory...
I guess WBG will just put his vote wherever he can avoid his own death.
DONT LET A NO LYNCH OCCUR. Even if that means I have to die. At least we find scum if I die.
Jackal, why are you diverting the lynch away from WBG to Sevryn? You didn't even provide a case on him. That's really troubling me. I had thought you were very town before you did that. If a no lynch occurs because Jackal pushed a Lurker lynch make sure to look in to him more thoroughly.
I have no problem with putting my vote back on WBG. I want to know if we can still get a lynch.
##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: wherebugsgo
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On September 19 2011 08:07 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:14 tnkted wrote:
Lucidity, buddy, I want you to convince me since you are acting so town right now. Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:59 tnkted wrote:
Guys, we need 5 votes to lynch if GM ignores the modkills/replacements in the voting count. I still think we should lynch lucidity, he's our best option right now (not a very good one, but still, he's our best). The alternative is a nolynch, which I don't think anyone wants. Erm? And nice work on the false dilemma. The alternative is LYNCHING SCUM IN WBG. Not a no lynch. And riddle me this: Why did WBG vote for both you and Jackal at a stage that he claims he believed you were town? Please read the part of my analysis on WBG that deals with you and the claims at least. And comment on it. Why am I more scummy than WBG? Everyone that votes for me needs to state this clearly so that we can find the scum on me after I die. @Everyone: I haven't played with tnkted before. Is he considered a good player?
Fine. The point is to avoid a nolynch. You're still on my watchlist though.
I read your entire analysis, so stop implying that I haven't. I'm not going to go through and comment on every section of it, but I found much of it compelling if not entirely convincing. To me, our best options for the lynch are you and WBG, and the evidence for both of you is somewhat contradictory. I'm uneasy about both lynches but I'm even more uneasy about nolynching, so I'll take the sweeter poison and
## Unvote
## Vote: Wherebugsgo
Your last line is a huuuge example of douchebaggery by the way, acting like a cock isn't going to convince anyone, and you certainly aren't endearing yourself to the confirmed townie with a medic protect.
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On September 19 2011 08:07 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:14 tnkted wrote:
Lucidity, buddy, I want you to convince me since you are acting so town right now. Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 07:59 tnkted wrote:
Guys, we need 5 votes to lynch if GM ignores the modkills/replacements in the voting count. I still think we should lynch lucidity, he's our best option right now (not a very good one, but still, he's our best). The alternative is a nolynch, which I don't think anyone wants. Erm? And nice work on the false dilemma. The alternative is LYNCHING SCUM IN WBG. Not a no lynch. And riddle me this: Why did WBG vote for both you and Jackal at a stage that he claims he believed you were town? Please read the part of my analysis on WBG that deals with you and the claims at least. And comment on it. Why am I more scummy than WBG? Everyone that votes for me needs to state this clearly so that we can find the scum on me after I die. @Everyone: I haven't played with tnkted before. Is he considered a good player?
If we're lynching all liars, we should be lynching you because you're the biggest liar in town.
I didn't believe Jackal OR tnkted when I voted them. Why the fuck would I vote them if I believed them?
Once I got enough information out of Jackal as to what tnkted did (I figured tnkted sent Jackal a piece) I figured it out and took my vote off, and breadcrumbed that I had a piece too.
Then, lastly, I sent a piece to tnkted. If I was scum, genius, why would I send my piece to confirmed town, when the consolidation of those pieces gives town better abilities?
God you're thick.
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[b]##unvote
##vote Lucidity
If I haven't done so already, I don't remember if I took my vote off Nisani
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On September 19 2011 08:33 Lucidity wrote:
If Forumite ends up on my lynch he is easily scum. Please look at my posts regarding him in the early game and chaos' case against him. Since Night 1 Forumite has only posted Fluff and talked about the elements. His only attempt at scum hunting was an extremely weak case against me. He has now stated that he doesn't believe I'm scum anymore so that's self explanatory...
But scumhunting is hard!
I´ve succeeded with scumhunting once, in Cosmic Horror when I got Wiggles, after showing how scum forced a no-lynch. Apart from that, I´m not a good, nor confident scumhunter. Those I´ve checked this game have come up as blanks, not enough to post, or I post a case and it gets picked apart quickly, regarding Lucidity.
I plan to be up a while more, so things might change, but for now:
##Unvote
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I still don't see why a scum player would give tntked their piece of harmony, especially when the mechanic for retreiving it is unknown.
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On September 19 2011 07:01 Lucidity wrote:
He might have thought that him getting it Day 2 ties in with Chaos dying. He might have wanted to remove that possibility from the table completely. If he had said Day 2 I would have immediately brought up the idea that scum get the elements of their night kill victims. So that was smart of him.
The first time he "breadcrumbs" that he has the element is after tnkted/jackal on Day 2.
Come. On.
I never said Day 2, good god. I said N1, which would have been Sept 15 (sinani's death) This was wrong, since the PM I received from GM at that time was for something else.
I received the piece PM on September 13th, or Day 1, but AFTER my role PM. It was not with a daypost.
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and wtf
I'm now unsure about tnkted and Jackal too. If this is a scum gambit it's a fucking good one, cause tnkted is voting me when I fucking gave him a piece.
Are you stupid or are you scum?
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On September 19 2011 08:46 TheFerryman wrote:
Didnt this happen once before?
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You could have given the piece in an attempt to gain town cred, could you not?
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Wait a minute, why would you ask him to do it then if it wouldn't absolve him?
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On September 19 2011 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
and wtf
I'm now unsure about tnkted and Jackal too. If this is a scum gambit it's a fucking good one, cause tnkted is voting me when I fucking gave him a piece.
Are you stupid or are you scum?
Lucidity explained all the points against you. Claiming you got your item N1 to conform with tnkted+Jackal, changing your mind once Nisani confirmed my claim on a D1 item, heavily pushing for Jackal to confess when you should have figured it out allready. If we ignore the fact that you gave up your piece, then you look more scummy than Lucidity.
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lol that settles it, tnkted is scum.
You're using WIFOM to lynch me now?
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lucidity/tnkted/Jackal scumteam IMO.
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On September 19 2011 08:51 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
and wtf
I'm now unsure about tnkted and Jackal too. If this is a scum gambit it's a fucking good one, cause tnkted is voting me when I fucking gave him a piece.
Are you stupid or are you scum? Lucidity explained all the points against you. Claiming you got your item N1 to conform with tnkted+Jackal, changing your mind once Nisani confirmed my claim on a D1 item, heavily pushing for Jackal to confess when you should have figured it out allready. If we ignore the fact that you gave up your piece, then you look more scummy than Lucidity.
These are all false.
My claim of n1 was a mistake. I actually came out and said that myself (why would I do that as scum? I could've just kept quiet about it, it wouldn't have made a difference.)
You guys are trying to use the N1 claim to label me as mafia when that's blatantly false. I never suspected you, Forumite. If I'd suspected you I would've voted you.
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On September 19 2011 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
and wtf
I'm now unsure about tnkted and Jackal too. If this is a scum gambit it's a fucking good one, cause tnkted is voting me when I fucking gave him a piece.
Are you stupid or are you scum?
Would you please refrain from this? If I want to listen to somebody call others stupid all night I'll go watch tv with my wife.
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On September 19 2011 08:51 GreYMisT wrote:
Wait a minute, why would you ask him to do it then if it wouldn't absolve him?
He was reluctant to accept me as a possible holder, not wanting to give up his piece before leaving for a long while, only doing it after I gave up mine and thereby forced him to do the same. It might as well have been a scum gambit, with all the trouble we went through to get that piece.
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Also I never asked Jackal to confess. I was pushing him to get more information. I'm not in a fucking PM circle like you guys, I need more info/time to figure it out.
If you want to kill me for that, fine, since obviously I can't reason with any of you. No matter what I could've done I would've appeared scummy apparently.
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