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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
between the two major canidates, Im going to have to go for lucidity, his argument for WBG is based almost completely off meta from 1 game where he was blue, and a tracker at that. The play you described as a "tunnelwhore extrodinare" fits the play for a tracker, but not that for other town aligned roles he might get this game. On top of that there is this post On September 14 2011 19:55 Lucidity wrote: Essentially this post served two purposes:
Lynching lurkers should be a last resort. Going after lurkers (and by lurkers she actually means INACTIVES) allows scum to not offer any opinions and simply sheep onto an easy vote. This is not an ideal situation to say the least. She discredits the cases against Forumite and Greymist, by simply saying that she doesn't like post by post analysis and that she thinks townies are accusing townies. Could you explain why you think townies are accusing townies dreamflower? You offer no reason to doubt the case based on actual discussion points. Simply "oh I'm unconvinced". Note the displeasure when she sees that someone else voted Forumite. So instead of waiting for other's opinions on the LaL strategy she proposed, she goes ahead with it to try and divert attention away from real scum hunting by voting for DroneAllDay. Look at the reasoning in that post.
She thinks his defense is inept. But somehow he does not deserve any attention. Instead she "guesses" she'll vote for DroneAllDay. Point? She's defending Forumite with no real reasoning. She puts her vote on an inactive, not a lurker. The part highlighted in red essentially explains why ON is where her vote should be. DroneAllDay is an inactive, which she doesn't want to go for. She wants lurkers, and ON is one. Yet her vote stays on DroneAllDay. She dedicates an entire paragraph to explaining why DAD is a bad vote, and then doesn't change it. Then she goes on to try and push the LaL objective. We shouldn't be lynching for information. DEFINITELY not on Day 1. We should be hunting scum. Lynching lurkers (inactives) is not scum hunting. It doesn't give us any information, which you think is important? Yet you still advocate lynching lurkers. Going after "real" targets actually DOES offer us information ito voting patterns, defenses e t c . Not that, that is our first priority, but it blows your LaL policy out of the water. tl;dr Defends Forumite and greymist with no reasoning. Pushes anti-town objective of lynching inactives instead of scum hunting. (Note that she really means inactives when she says lurkers, even though she indicated otherwise. Her posts make that clear enough.) What happened to your case on Dreamflower lucidity? if she was playing this bad for the town, you would think you would carry over your pressure into day2, but it has been absent. This, coupled with forumite's points above are why im going for lucidity ##Vote Lucidity | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
She has been completely inactive. I haven't seen scum being modkilled before so I put it on hold. I'm pretty sure the replacement is for her. She has had scummy ideas wrt lurkers and no lynch, but WBG is much more scummy imo. You're willing to lynch me because I'm not going after an inactive player? That's terrible. How am I more scummy than WBG? Explain this to me please. WBG's role as tracker only explains his tunneling of one candidate on his last day. The rest of his play was not influenced by that. WBG voted for tnkted AND jackal while he apparently believed their claim. Explain this to me. WBG forgot when he received the element of harmony. Explain this to me. !@$^&@#^ WBG repeatedly pointed out how scummy sinani was, but "never supported the lynch". EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. Forumite SKIMMED MY ANALYSIS. SKIMMED. What the fuck is that. This is retarded. If you're town, how can you possibly think your contribution is passable greymist? | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
I have no special powers. I have no elements of harmony. So lynching me isn't the end of the world for Town, but for the love of all things pony, THINK FOR YOURSELVES. Where are my scummy motives? | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
@ Jackal: Send me your piece and I'll see what happens when the pieces are combined. Then I'll send it back or use it or something depending on what it is. Also, what are your thoughts on lucidity, WBG and forumite? @ WBG, Forumite: what powers did the shards of honesty have before they were combined? If I'm reading this correctly, either both forumite and WBG are scum and lying about the time they got their items (which doesn't make any sense since I DID recieve both shards, so weren't lying about having them) or neither of them are lying about the timing (which doesn't make any sense since virtually everyone else in the game with an item got it on n1). We got us a pickle here. I'm thinking we might have to lynch one of them to find out which I'm loath to do, but I can't see another way out of this mess. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
I think we should consolidate a lynch here pretty quick. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:40 tnkted wrote: how long until day ends? I think we should consolidate a lynch here pretty quick. 4 hours and 18 minutes | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:05 Forumite wrote: You say it was a bait, I just see a FoS without any substance behind it, after getting WBG more or less confirmed, at least in my eyes. Scum would want to discredit any correct attempt to confirm Town, which makes pushing WBG at that time scummy. Of course I think you look scummy for it. I´ve read your case on WBG, skimmed it at least. Him forgetting when he got his piece, does it make him more scum? N1 makes less sense, as it must have come from Sinani, as Sinani wouldn´t have kept his piece when he was getting lynched and WBG didn´t look like the best one to send it to. The thing is, that when he got it doesn´t make him Scum, wether or not he lied about it might, if for example another Scum got it and that Scum told him the wrong day. Is that what you think? What looks weird is him pushing for more info from Jackal, even though he allready knew what they were talking about. He should have accepted earlier. That´s the part of your case on him I can agree with, at least before he gave up his piece. No substance? Top of page 38. !#&($^*@^#(%@#&%*!@%#&^% Why would you think I'm trying to discredit a "confirmed townie" in your eyes WHEN YOU DIDN"T TRUST HIM AT THE TIME? That doesn't add up. I'm completely amazed. Perhaps Forumite is WBG's scumbuddy after all. In all seriousness, I want to know from all the people who got elements. How is it possible to forget at which point in the game you got your element? How could WBG have forgotten this? | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
He didn't forget. He lied. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:33 Lucidity wrote: Are you fucking with me? She has been completely inactive. I haven't seen scum being modkilled before so I put it on hold. I'm pretty sure the replacement is for her. She has had scummy ideas wrt lurkers and no lynch, but WBG is much more scummy imo. You're willing to lynch me because I'm not going after an inactive player? That's terrible. How am I more scummy than WBG? Explain this to me please. WBG's role as tracker only explains his tunneling of one candidate on his last day. The rest of his play was not influenced by that. WBG voted for tnkted AND jackal while he apparently believed their claim. Explain this to me. WBG forgot when he received the element of harmony. Explain this to me. !@$^&@#^ WBG repeatedly pointed out how scummy sinani was, but "never supported the lynch". EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. Forumite SKIMMED MY ANALYSIS. SKIMMED. What the fuck is that. This is retarded. If you're town, how can you possibly think your contribution is passable greymist? What do you think about the fact that I recieved both forumite and WBG's pieces? They weren't lying about having them at all. Which means that they probably aren't lying about when they got them either. How does that fit in the pattern? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
And also: On September 18 2011 18:32 Lucidity wrote: ##Vote wherebugsgo I'll post my reasoning later when I get home. His angar like in the post above is one of the reasons. Am I the only one not in a PM circle? Fuck that shit. Also, dreamflower is on course to get modkilled? His anger is one of the reasons you are voting for him. Interesting. On September 19 2011 06:33 Lucidity wrote: Are you fucking with me? She has been completely inactive. I haven't seen scum being modkilled before so I put it on hold. I'm pretty sure the replacement is for her. She has had scummy ideas wrt lurkers and no lynch, but WBG is much more scummy imo. You're willing to lynch me because I'm not going after an inactive player? That's terrible. How am I more scummy than WBG? Explain this to me please. WBG's role as tracker only explains his tunneling of one candidate on his last day. The rest of his play was not influenced by that. WBG voted for tnkted AND jackal while he apparently believed their claim. Explain this to me. WBG forgot when he received the element of harmony. Explain this to me. !@$^&@#^ WBG repeatedly pointed out how scummy sinani was, but "never supported the lynch". EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. Forumite SKIMMED MY ANALYSIS. SKIMMED. What the fuck is that. This is retarded. If you're town, how can you possibly think your contribution is passable greymist? [QUOTE]On September 19 2011 06:43 Lucidity wrote: [QUOTE]On September 19 2011 06:05 Forumite wrote: You say it was a bait, I just see a FoS without any substance behind it, after getting WBG more or less confirmed, at least in my eyes. Scum would want to discredit any correct attempt to confirm Town, which makes pushing WBG at that time scummy. Of course I think you look scummy for it. I´ve read your case on WBG, skimmed it at least. Him forgetting when he got his piece, does it make him more scum? N1 makes less sense, as it must have come from Sinani, as Sinani wouldn´t have kept his piece when he was getting lynched and WBG didn´t look like the best one to send it to. The thing is, that when he got it doesn´t make him Scum, wether or not he lied about it might, if for example another Scum got it and that Scum told him the wrong day. Is that what you think? What looks weird is him pushing for more info from Jackal, even though he allready knew what they were talking about. He should have accepted earlier. That´s the part of your case on him I can agree with, at least before he gave up his piece. [/QUOTE] No substance? Top of page 38. !#&($^*@^#(%@#&%*!@%#&^% Why would you think I'm trying to discredit a "confirmed townie" in your eyes WHEN YOU DIDN"T TRUST HIM AT THE TIME? That doesn't add up. I'm completely amazed. Perhaps Forumite is WBG's scumbuddy after all. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Im not on you because you are not voting for an inactive player. at the beginning of this day we did not know that dream would be innactive, and yet we heard nothing from you about her at all. And also: On September 18 2011 18:32 Lucidity wrote: ##Vote wherebugsgo I'll post my reasoning later when I get home. His angar like in the post above is one of the reasons. Am I the only one not in a PM circle? Fuck that shit. Also, dreamflower is on course to get modkilled? His anger is one of the reasons you are voting for him. Interesting. On September 19 2011 06:33 Lucidity wrote: Are you fucking with me? She has been completely inactive. I haven't seen scum being modkilled before so I put it on hold. I'm pretty sure the replacement is for her. She has had scummy ideas wrt lurkers and no lynch, but WBG is much more scummy imo. You're willing to lynch me because I'm not going after an inactive player? That's terrible. How am I more scummy than WBG? Explain this to me please. WBG's role as tracker only explains his tunneling of one candidate on his last day. The rest of his play was not influenced by that. WBG voted for tnkted AND jackal while he apparently believed their claim. Explain this to me. WBG forgot when he received the element of harmony. Explain this to me. !@$^&@#^ WBG repeatedly pointed out how scummy sinani was, but "never supported the lynch". EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. Forumite SKIMMED MY ANALYSIS. SKIMMED. What the fuck is that. This is retarded. If you're town, how can you possibly think your contribution is passable greymist?[/quote] On September 19 2011 06:43 Lucidity wrote: No substance? Top of page 38. !#&($^*@^#(%@#&%*!@%#&^% Why would you think I'm trying to discredit a "confirmed townie" in your eyes WHEN YOU DIDN"T TRUST HIM AT THE TIME? That doesn't add up. I'm completely amazed. Perhaps Forumite is WBG's scumbuddy after all. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Sevryn, Curu and Cyber_Cheese need some love though. ##VOTE: Sevryn | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:49 Jackal58 wrote: I'm thinking Lucidity is probably town. I think he's wrong but right now I'm thinking he's probably town. Sevryn, Curu and Cyber_Cheese need some love though. ##VOTE: Sevryn What were your thoughts about my plan to combine the items? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:49 Jackal58 wrote: I'm thinking Lucidity is probably town. I think he's wrong but right now I'm thinking he's probably town. Sevryn, Curu and Cyber_Cheese need some love though. ##VOTE: Sevryn What makes him seem scummy to you? | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
WBG starts insulting people for reason to get his point across. I'm getting angry because I'm going to be lynched for no good reason. TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. WBG did not try to get his point across by insulting people in XLIV. I would point to me raging in PM games, but I can't because they were PM games... Now my lack of meta comes back to bite me in the ass. FUCK YES! As for not pushing dreamflower.......... tnkted was my first choice lynch candidate at the start of the day. Why would I try to lynch dreamflower? tnkted: If you're going to vote me please respond to my response of your analysis on me. I'd like to know which parts were unsatisfactory to you. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:51 tnkted wrote: What were your thoughts about my plan to combine the items? Already sent it to you. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On September 19 2011 06:36 tnkted wrote:@ WBG, Forumite: what powers did the shards of honesty have before they were combined? If I'm reading this correctly, either both forumite and WBG are scum and lying about the time they got their items (which doesn't make any sense since I DID recieve both shards, so weren't lying about having them) or neither of them are lying about the timing (which doesn't make any sense since virtually everyone else in the game with an item got it on n1). We got us a pickle here. I'm thinking we might have to lynch one of them to find out which I'm loath to do, but I can't see another way out of this mess. The piece didn´t have any power at all, no mason-circle, nothing. My theory on timings is that Chaos13 had the other piece, and when he died the next night, it was either randomized to Town, all players, or among Scum. Since we can´t really know which, I´m thinking he´s Town since he gave up the piece. Lucidity, while WBG could have been lying about when he got the piece, why was it better to say N1 than D1? Scum lie, but they usually need a reason to lie, why didn´t he just say D2 immediately? | ||
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