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sandroba

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September 02 2011 13:56 GMT

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sandroba

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September 07 2011 15:56 GMT

#115

On September 07 2011 13:25 iGrok wrote:
Lets do this

With a smurf in the game, I have nothing to base your actions off of. I want you to contribute a lot, so that I can get a good read off of you.

Until then, you make me uncomfortable.

##Vote Bayonet Anderson

Yo iGrok, if you are going to start a RVS why do you go out of your way to make it neat and make it seem justifiable? You ought to know that's no valid reason to vote, why make it seem so?

sandroba

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September 07 2011 23:04 GMT

#136

Sup I don't think GGQ is scum. Suspcious people to me so far are iGrok and xfttfc whose behaviour day1 is 100% different than mafia xliv. xftc is being too absurdly confindent about his reads and even basing an entire scum team out of them when the game was only one page long (LOL). The whole notion is so ridiculous that to me it seems he is over compensating for his behaviour in the last game where he was townie and was found scummy by a lot of others. Makes no sense for a townie to throw acusations into 4 players this early with so little info, but it makes a lot of sense for scum to try to create this sort of confusion. I'd like you gather your thoughts and post in a more coherent manner until I decide if you are scum or not.

sandroba

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September 07 2011 23:05 GMT

#137

edit: I'd like you to...

sandroba

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September 07 2011 23:10 GMT

#138

Also let's get to posting people, more than half the players in this game are completely inactive. Unfortunatelly we have no info on the setup, so I don't think discussion on roles will take us anywhere as of now. Let me just say that if I think you are good and you start making ridiculous acusations and being unreasonable you will not be excused =P

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September 08 2011 01:45 GMT

#146

On September 08 2011 09:47 iGrok wrote:

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You said you were suspicious of me and then gave no reasons. Do you have any?

You pretty much started the shit fest day1 with your arbitrary vote and then tryed to make it seem it had some thought behind it, when it was clearly a random vote. Your response seem to be trying too hard to justify it, instead of just admiting it was shitty reasoning and you were only trying to get discussion going. In sumary your first post didn't sit well with me and your response did not help either.
I'd actually like your opinion on someone that has posted in this thread.

sandroba

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September 08 2011 02:52 GMT

#155

On September 08 2011 11:20 iGrok wrote:

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First of all, I didn't "start the shit fest day1".

The shitfest had been going on since Curu voted Palmer pre-game. But that specific shitfest started with WBG's Random Vote.

Second of all

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This is trying hard to justify it?

Look, if you want to tunnel someone, that's fine. Just pick someone else to fight with.

Man iGrok, why so dodgy? Is it wrong of me to interrogate you to try to determine your aligment? You sure don't like the heat do you?

sandroba

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September 08 2011 22:04 GMT

#212

Alright TAA is the best lynch. No bullshit allowed here sir.
##Vote: TheAwesomeAll

sandroba

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September 08 2011 22:05 GMT

#213

Wow iGrok actually agrees with me. I wonder what that means.

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September 11 2011 07:17 GMT

#447

Yo guys, sorry for the long absence. I'm going to post tomorrow when I'm sober.

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September 11 2011 17:52 GMT

#478

Hey I'm actually not scum, I've just not been around home much for 2 days and thus had not the time to read the thread until now. Plenty of people are calling me scum and I think that's reasonable as I'm usually not this inactive as town. However the rest of the case against me is not true at all. I pressured iGrok day1 and then decided he was unlikely to be scum and thus not voted for him. TAA was making no sense at all in his posts and I could see no townie motivations for posting like that, so that's why I voted him.

##vote: xfttfc

I'm feeling like shit right now because I'm extremelly hung over. You guys should actually be looking at whoever failed to call me scum or did so in an unsure fashion. Maybe I was wrong about GGQ being town day1, because now that the pressure is not on him he is not posting anymore. And yeah zona and bayonet are prob town.
Don't lynch me today, I'll flip town. And I will do a lot of work the next day if left alive (by both mafia and town lol), I promisse. Today my head fucking hurts too much and reading this has been a pain.

sandroba

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September 11 2011 18:49 GMT

#483

On September 12 2011 03:14 Curu wrote:
Why xt? What do you make of sinani, who hasn't done anything, or Jackal, who offers nothing but quick jumps onto other people's wagons and didn't even mention you?

I don't know what to make of sinani, I always think he is scummy despite alignment. I'm leaning towards scum here, but I've been wrong about him before.

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September 11 2011 21:20 GMT

#503

Bros, I really think we should lynch into TAA vote list day1, since there ought to be scum there I'm pretty sure at least 2 if not more. I really can't tell witch side of palmar/jackal and wbg/mig is more likely to be scum, but I feel pretty good about lynching xfttfc.

sandroba

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September 12 2011 02:40 GMT

#554

Jackal does look rather irrational this game. Do you really think zona is lying in her claim? You realize a medic claiming and saying he did not protect her would totally fuck her over and she was in no danger of being lynched prior to claiming all that. I don't see a mafia doing that out of the blue at all. I can't say I agree with the vig claim, but I find it unlikely she is actually mafia.
To be quite honest with you I simply don't see bum rolling mafia so many times in a row lol and your case about rolefishing doesn't make much sense to me. I can certanly see townie reasons for posting that which I won't go into detail, but as mafia I don't think he would be so blatant and attention grabbing in his comment about roles. That first comment did the exact oposite of what mafia normally tries to do, which is avoid attention.
Sinani I'm quite undecided on, because he refuses to help, yet his lynch isn't exactly being fought over. I guess lynching him is better than lynching no one because there is indeed a decent chance he is mafia.
##Unvote
##Vote:Sinani
I'd much rather lynch jackal if you guys are willing to change to him. He is doing his trade mark intentionally obtuse mafia meta.

sandroba

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September 12 2011 02:45 GMT

#555

@Palmar are you going to cling onto kp speculation as a reson to lynch a bro? I don't think mafia would be so dumb to ask about missing kp right after the day post. They would certainly realize how suspicious that would look and the whole point of being mafia is to avoid suspicion. And considering how much effort wbg seems to be making in this game I would definitely not like to see him lynched for such petty reasoning.

sandroba

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September 12 2011 03:19 GMT

#565

Xt lynch is not going to happen and since his last post I'm not so sure on him anymore.

sandroba

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September 13 2011 03:11 GMT

#645

If I live today I promisse to produce a shitton of info tomorrow. I used up all my free time on LoL today and now I'm heading to bed.

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September 13 2011 16:18 GMT

#699

I'm towny. Okay this claim possibly means 3 things:
1) Palmar is scum and Bum town. Makes some sense.
2) Bum is scum and Palmar is town. The odds of mafia framing wbg the night they shot him are simply ridiculous. That means Palmar is insane if really a DT. Palmar has to know this and if he was town he would be pushing for bum like a crazy man today, not suddenly deciding to go after me after he said yesterday he believed me. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Palmar just has no reason to assume bum got framed night one. Also not knowing about his sanity in the first place he would not be yelling bum is town before he confirmed it.
3) Both are scum. This makes the most sense, because palmar is not going after bum, which would make his story the most believable.
4)Both are town. For this to happen Bum needs to have been framed night one and palmar has to be behaving like an idiot as a DT. He keeps yelling Bum is town for no reason and somehow mafia doesn't pick up on this and shoot him. Not likely at all.

Also I believe there is no roleblocker in this game. We have no claims so far and if you argue they have been shooting plus roleblocking people WBG was the rational roleblock for this night and we know his action went through. So no roleblockers for mafia and we have 2 vigs and a medic claims so far. They have no means to prevent a power role from claiming but if the medic wants to protect the power role he has to roleblock him and he can't do it 2 night in a row which is a clever little mechanic by Ace. But scum doesn't know this at first and leaving scum unable to counter a DT claim is not something Ace would do imo.

I'll post my thought on everybody soon, aswell as huge analysis of both previous days.

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September 13 2011 16:37 GMT

#701

WBG GOT FRAMED AND SHOT??? Who the hell would do that, am I the one not using logic? And to answer your next question, because you don't know your sanity yet. One of the following things should happen if you were DT: either your role states that you might be insane/sane/paranoid/naive or you ask Ace if that's a possibility since basically all games ace has hosted with dts it functions that way. Your claim is just convinient as shit.

1) Say you are suspicious of wbg for no reason on the previous day so it justifies your check today.
2) Conviniently WBG gets shot. Claim that lul wbg might have been framed and shot.
3) ????
4) Profit.

sandroba

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September 13 2011 16:40 GMT

#702

On September 14 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:

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your point no 4 is just plain wrong. you guys didn't shoot me because people suspect me.

For 4 to happen Bum doesn't need to have been framed, all it takes is wbg being framed on day 2, and me actually being sane, that's the explanation I'd go with.

But thanks, now you've just confirmed you're not using logic this game, you're scum.

And why would I not defend a person who I have an innocent check on, it's only after I got the false check on wbg that I started doubting my sanity or the possibility of framers.

That's because you are scum.
##Vote: Palmar

Thoughts on other people still following later.

sandroba

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September 13 2011 16:49 GMT

#704

Okay I'm gonna wait for more claims before writing stuff. I'm curious as to what bum is gonna claim.
Jackal, do you believe that there are 2 cops in this 16 person game? Have you cconsider the possibility of palmar being GF/framed day1 and thus mafia? WTF? Why are you not jumping on palmar like a maniac?

sandroba

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September 13 2011 17:03 GMT

#705

And zona did you shoot bayonnet? Btw I believe bayonnet is kavdragon if anyone need to compare meta.

sandroba

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September 13 2011 17:12 GMT

#708

What do you say about my analysis of there being no roleblockers? Do you still think 2 cops is plausible?
Man this is a fucking 16 man game!!! No way there are 2 cops. Also palmar is making no sense and thus is scum. Since I find it hard to believe you would claim cop as scum AFTER Palmar just claimed cop, I'm going to tentatively believe your claim. Why did you check those guys and you never checked me though? I've been thouroughly discussed since night one.

sandroba

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September 13 2011 17:22 GMT

#711

It doesn't work as a roleblocker because scum cannot relly on it nor has previous knowledge of his existance. Now I'm crazy? Wasn't I scum just a moment before?

sandroba

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September 13 2011 17:57 GMT

#722

Man please, just look at what palmar just said. He says that the most reasonable explanation is that he is sane and wbg got framed and shot. Palmar is not an idiot. He obviously has some agenda behind this and is scum. There is no way around it. That is undeniable proof he is scum. Can we please just lynch him. I'll let you guys lynch me if you want when we are no longer at lylo to clear things up if you guys really insist (meaning we must hit scum today and the next).

sandroba

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September 13 2011 18:05 GMT

#723

I promissed I would help the next day if I was alive and I intend to keep it. I'm not scum. You can ask BC if I'm lying about ytd since I was playing with him and tnkted. The whole idea that I'm scum because I'm lurking is just ridiculous because that's not how I would play scum. I would just try to push w/e mislynch vigorously and try to look like my previous games as townie. The whole point of being scum is trying to avoid suspicion and that is clearly not what I'm doing. I really had real life issues the previous day and I was pretty sure I wasn't getting shot, since there was so much suspicion on me already, so I decided to play LoL ytd and have an easier job today since the night would certainly provide more info. Heck, I even tried to bait mafia into shooting me by saying I would dedicate a lot today to clear things up for town, but that unsurprisingly did not work.

sandroba

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September 14 2011 18:52 GMT

#760

Who exactly is advocating for a palmar lynch besides me? Zona who is basically confirmed town and bum who is the other suspect. Seeing this situation I can only assume bum is indeed town. But let's assume me and bum are mafia for a moment. So you think that the other 2 "mafia" besides me and bum just decided to bus bum in the beggining of the day even when palmar's claim makes no sense at all.
Obviously palmar is mafia. If you lynch bum you are gonna lose.

sandroba

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September 14 2011 19:01 GMT

#764

Jackal is either really blind or mafia too. Probably mafia now that I think about it. Look there are 2 DTs in a game where mafia has no roleblocker, none suspect the other, both conviniently checked and suspected (for no damn reason) WBG the same night and he ended up shot and they both agree on lynching the same suspect. What a beautiful ridiculous story.

sandroba

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September 14 2011 19:05 GMT

#765

Obviously I don't have enough credibility to convince you guys of shit today, but it's kind of sad that if I don't single handly do all the work you guys don't get shit done and declare me obvious mafia.
Does anyone has any qualms on zona being town? If you are town and clueless trust his judgment then instead of being manipulated by people you are unsure of the alignment.

sandroba

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September 14 2011 19:10 GMT

#766

Read Palmar's day1. He suspects GGQ and Mig. "Roflskates I'ma check bum!" Cool story bro.

sandroba

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September 14 2011 19:12 GMT

#767

And where the hell is our lovely smurf. Saving your vote to nail the game for mafia are you?

sandroba

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September 14 2011 19:18 GMT

#770

Jackal is not this dumb, pardon me. He is scum too.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 02:43 GMT

#816

Mafia is prob palmar/chaos/mig/bayonnet with jackal being a stuborn old man that thinks I'm mafia. =P

sandroba

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September 15 2011 02:45 GMT

#817

Or maybe bayonnet really forgot to vote and GGQ is planning a ninja vote switch who knows.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 02:49 GMT

#819

if there is any town on bum's list I hope you know to switch before the deadline, because if we either mislynch or no lynch makes absolutely no diference. So make sure the lynch happens otherwise we lose no matter what.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 02:50 GMT

#821

Jackal man, I know you like to tunnel me, but think a bit what have I done in this game and see for yourself if I'm mafia or not.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 02:59 GMT

#828

I'm delivering right now. Palmar is scum.
I suspected bayonet to be mafia as a mean to deal with with you if you are really town. His lack of vote is really suspect, I believe he is saving it to nail a mislynch whenever it becomes available.

Jackal is being really stubborn but maybe his judgement is clouded by the assumption I'm mafia. Like the thing that bugs me is that DT claim was really unecessary and only put more suspicion onto palmar and if mafia's plan was to mislynch bum he prob would not have made that claim. Either that or they really did not think things through. But bayonnet being mafia fits best.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:01 GMT

#831

jackal, will you absolutely not switch to palmar? Because I'm considering switching to bum to either get this over with or in the off chance I'm wrong.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:02 GMT

#834

Jackal answer me and I'll switch right now.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:03 GMT

#835

Except that every one just claimed and there are no night vigs left. Game is over if we no lynch.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:05 GMT

#839

Sure I agree, but if jackal refuses to switch I'd rather just lynch anyone.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:08 GMT

#844

Well, if bayonnet was mafia (and thus lying) and palmar was town he would totally just nail in the victory. Whoever is town in bum's list needs to switch. But if that's bayonnet then it's game over anyway.
So my hope lies in jackal switching.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:12 GMT

#847

Who woulda guessed, I was right.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:14 GMT

#850

I don't think mafia can sell that I'm scum anymore, so I hope our vig(s) have good aim and that town has a clear head tomorrow if tomorrow even happens. I'm prob dead along with zona.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:19 GMT

#852

Nah scum has 2 kp based on the deaths + claims. We prob have a vet left. I wonder who could it be.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:21 GMT

#853

Spare jackal for now. Hit Palmar and mig. I'm still deciding who of bayonnet and jackal is scum.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:22 GMT

#854

I also suspect that scum might have a medic seeing they have no rb and we got a compulsive vig. So keep them guessing zona!

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:32 GMT

#856

Why are you town again bayonnet? You pushed igrok's lynch and shot him, pushed my lynch and then conviniently unvoted and got your vote bought at the last minute. Yeah jackal is shaddy, but so are you. And guess what, bum really was a pgo. I wonder how scum can deal with that. Maybe a day vig? And I wonder if wbg save really went through or if he even targeted you or the scum doc just saved you when zona wanted to shoot you so bad. Don't worry though, I'm saving you 2 for last in case I get a chance.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:37 GMT

#857

And Bum actually got lynched. That means mafia bought someone else's vote, not yours.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:56 GMT

#859

Yeah GGQ, I saw that. Only person that would make sense as being town there would be jackal, but he fooled me before pretending to be dumb so I'm actually not that qualified to say.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 03:59 GMT

#860

And if there is actually an SK we just delivered you a list with 3 mafia. Do your job pls.

sandroba

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September 15 2011 15:19 GMT

#879

Palmar bro, you either kill townies faster than we can kill you guys or roll over and die. Stop spamming the thread, your life is forfeit and nothing you say is to be considered.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:01 GMT

#896

Rofl sup biatches #vote palmar

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:02 GMT

#897

sorry
Vote: Palmar
Jackal enjoy your skness while you can.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:05 GMT

#898

Just to make this clear. Either palmar is sk and jackal is mafia or the other way around. 1st to claim wins gogogogo.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:08 GMT

#899

We only have to lynch palmar jackal mig and if the game is not over GGQ then gg. Sorry mafia you did a good job but sk fucked you up.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:17 GMT

#900

lol sup we have 3 - 2 - 1
Sk or mafia wins there is no way around it unless they are idiots. We have to lynch mafia and hope they screw up. Palmar claim scum pls, otherwise sk wins.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:20 GMT

#901

shit
##Unvote
let me think about this

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:24 GMT

#902

If palmar is sk then mafia wins. We have to lynch mig I think.
##Vote Mig

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:28 GMT

#903

Town rally around me! If palmar is sk we lose so let's lynch mig!

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:32 GMT

#904

Mig deserves to die and lose if he's town cuz he was fucking useless this game. Let's kill him and get this over with. But he id prob mafia so this gives us a chance to win.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:38 GMT

#908

GGQ he might be sk. If we lynch the sk mafia wins by default. So safest bet is mig.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:49 GMT

#913

Hmm you might be right. The thing that bothers me is mig voting for palmar, but what you said holds weight.
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:50 GMT

#914

Yeah you got me I'm sk. So smart.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:52 GMT

#916

Jackal can you give us a check result that no one is going to consider?

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:53 GMT

#918

Sure GGQ start selling it early on people might believe you.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:55 GMT

#919

@Palmar you guys can fuck up and shoot the wrong person so it's not over yet. MUAHAHAHA I might be sk who knows.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:57 GMT

#921

@Palmar if you are sk you don't deserve to win because your claim was stupid. GG.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 07:58 GMT

#922

Cuz I'm the sk trolololol. Fear me mortals.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 08:01 GMT

#924

They are both mafia cuz I'm the sk! You are just a townie and I want to hand mafia the win! That's my plan.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 08:05 GMT

#927

Rofl I win then GG.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 08:08 GMT

#930

yo townie mig can you hammer palmar so we can move on?

sandroba

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September 16 2011 08:09 GMT

#932

Yo mig I'm vet shoot me and you are done rofl.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 08:12 GMT

#934

Well now that I think about it I actually have to convince the sk that I'm maifa so he shoots mafia and we can lynch him next.
Yo sk! I'm mafia bro. I'd never lie to ya trust me!

sandroba

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September 16 2011 08:14 GMT

#936

How could sandroba lurk this much as town???? He is such obvious mafia bussing palmar for town cred. It's so obvious it's ridiculous. He could never have guessed igrok sinani and bum were all town wtf. Obv scum shoot this fucker.

sandroba

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September 16 2011 18:22 GMT

#950

Hey I won't have access to internet till sunday afternoon, is that okay Ace?

sandroba

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September 18 2011 23:17 GMT

#966

K bros I'm back, sorry to keep you waiting. Not that I'm going to vote for anyone though.

sandroba

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