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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:13 chaos13 wrote: Understood iGrok. Thank you very much. Then compromise and vote Ace. We need him gone today too. This I can do. ##vote Ace | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Apparently the words "I don't necessarily believe his claim" means nothing. Excuse me for playing the devil's advocate. It helps me think and play out scenarios in my head. When I present a converse scenario, it makes everyone else clarify their points (or yell at me and call me an idiot) to try and convince me. Except, you said sandroba's arguments are weak and cited him coloring bum's role text blue...when bum did that himself. This is why I'm saying you should read more carefully. If bum/Ace aren't the only mafia left then we don't have very many options in terms of lynches tomorrow. At this point for me kenpachi might be up there (since he's really done nothing all game). But, today, we need to lynch bum/Ace. Bum has escaped lynch TWICE and that is surely not due to pious coincidence BOTH times. That's just incredibly difficult to believe. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Except, you said sandroba's arguments are weak and cited him coloring bum's role text I'll add one last thing about the whole pious/RB situation: Mafia have created some WIFOM with this, but that's enough to discredit sandroba based on the actual results of the votes. When iGrok posted prior to the daypost, he said with no vote modifications ON and bum would die. This means, one of three things happened: a.) there was a pious on the redFF vote and no roleblock. unlikely. b.) there was a pious on the redFF vote AND a roleblock on sandroba. extremely unlikely. c.) there was a roleblock on sandroba and no pious on redFF. very likely. This also matches up with sinani's claim that ON was the inhibitor. If that's indeed true then we'll have an easier time lynching who we want to lynch today. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Mafia have created some WIFOM with this, but that's NOT enough to discredit sandroba based on the actual results of the votes. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". Cool then vote for Ace. I didn't bring up colors as an argument of why he is scum, that was someone else. Check my posting history (and his) to see why bum is scum. Do you think redFF and sinani are both lying? How do you explain the kp discrepancy from day1 to day2 then? How is it possible that we got off 3 ressurections? Do you supose mafia would res sinani and priest res drazerk both knowing the other would probably target the same one most likely? If you believe their claims that means 100% presence of a roleblocker despite my claim. You can also see that both bum and ON voted redFF last day, so if redFF was mafia roleblocker would totaly save him. Thus by the fact that kp got reduced it means we killed a mafia and by the fact that inhibitor opted to rb me means there were 2 mafia up for lynch, so they had to choose only one to save. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257019¤tpage=32#635 | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 05 2011 12:07 chaos13 wrote: It was me who used colors as a reason for not believing bum's claim. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257019¤tpage=32#635 My mistake | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On September 05 2011 16:03 wherebugsgo wrote: Palmar you're dead -_- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9438894 | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 05 2011 16:21 sinani206 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9438894 LOL wtf popcorn aficionado | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
I trolled so hard that game as cohost. | ||
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Sknowman
55 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
##Vote: Ace | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
 For everyone's reference, here is a complete list of voting the past few days, including today's votes so far. I know it isn't complete because some votes aren't formatted properly, as I just searched for ##. Some of you need to learn how to unvote, and others need to learn to put two ##'s. Day 1 I'm going off memory that sandroba voted for bum, since it didn't come up in my search. + Show Spoiler + Day 1 Voting Palmar (0) - chaos13 #2 - redFF #3 Varpulis (3) - redFF #5 - Palmar #6 - Kenpachi #7 - bumatlarge #22 - chaos13 #23 sinani206 (3) - jcarlsoniv #8 - Drazerk #12 - Varpulis #19 Kenpachi (1) - OriginalName #11 redFF (1) - Ace #27 bumatlarge (3[-1rb]) - Palmar #13 - sinani206 #16 - sandroba #?? CLAIMED ROLEBLOCK jcarlsoniv (1) - Sknowman #14 chaos13 (1) - Jackal58 #15 Ace (0) OriginalName (0) Day 2 Voting OriginalName (4) - bumatlarge #6 - redFF #11 - wherebugsgo #12 - jcarlsoniv #18 - chaos13 #19 - redFF #20 - Kenpachi #21 bumatlarge (3 [-1rb]) - sandroba #2 CLAIMED ROLEBLOCK - redFF #4 - Palmar #9 - wherebugsgo #15 redFF (3) - Ace #5 - OriginalName #13 - bumatlarge #16 wherebugsgo (0) - redFF #8 - Kenpachi #9 chaos13 (0) Day 3 Voting bumatlarge (4) - wherebugsgo #1 - sinani206 #2 - sandroba #4 - Jackal58 #7 sandroba (2) - Ace #3 - bumatlarge #6 Ace (3) - chaos13 #5 - jcarlsoniv #8 - Drazerk This makes it a little easier to see how the voting patterns of a certain few players match up. Those players would be bumatlarge, Ace, OriginalName, and jcarlsoniv. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". As you can see from my vote count above this, there is no way to tell who the pious is, assuming sandroba's being roleblocked is a truthful claim (I see no reason to disbelieve it as of yet). | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 05 2011 23:44 chaos13 wrote: As you can see from my vote count above this, there is no way to tell who the pious is, assuming sandroba's being roleblocked is a truthful claim (I see no reason to disbelieve it as of yet). You're right. I just looked through and realized that myself. Kinda sad that it makes me not special =( | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Kenpachi needs to vote for Ace. Do it Kenpachi. On September 05 2011 10:10 iGrok wrote: If all mafia are killed, and some can possibly be revived, the game goes on. So if Ace and Bum are both scum and both lynched today the game still isn't over? Even if ON is ressed as a Zombie we still have to wait one more day cycle to ensure our High Priest isn't high and resses Bum or Ace? This is assuming 3 scum only. KP would lend itself to 3 scum only scenario. | ||
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