EPTOn September 05 2011 09:55 Drazerk wrote:
Got a PM when I died saying I MAY be revived and to continue reading the thread.
Got a PM when I died saying I MAY be revived and to continue reading the thread.
Mine stated I would be.
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Mine stated I would be. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I've already explained my side, and all sandroba has to show I'm scum is a pluralized verb. The fact that iGrok has to come out with the post above mine is credit to people playing extremely poorly this game. After you read the OP read the thread. I checked my list. It had 3 votes. Sandroba is lying. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
If sinani also says May be revived I think we can confirm that I am the zombie. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:55 Jackal58 wrote: I agree. Drazerk is not lynch bait. Anybody that votes for him is scum or dumb. He is a good day vig shot though. Nothing personal Drazerk but reading the thread while I was dead leads me to the conclusion that sinani was ressed and you are reanimated. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see that the vig is already dead. I'm assuming he would have shot Ace yesterday if he was still alive. But I do think you're probably right. Drazerk is more than likely the zombie. But the vig should NOT shoot Drazerk. The reanimated zombies are vets. iGrok, I read through the OP again, and I don't think I saw the answer to this. I know zombies count towards mafia kp. But what if all of the original mafia die and just the zombie is left? Assuming Drazerk was town before his death, he would still be town while being a zombie. So there would be no mafia left? Even though the mafia kp would still technically be 1? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:57 Jackal58 wrote: I can't protect myself. That would be a cool role though. Claim day 1 and game over. Oh I understand. Did you try to protect someone night 1? | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:01 jcarlsoniv wrote: iGrok, I read through the OP again, and I don't think I saw the answer to this. I know zombies count towards mafia kp. But what if all of the original mafia die and just the zombie is left? Assuming Drazerk was town before his death, he would still be town while being a zombie. So there would be no mafia left? Even though the mafia kp would still technically be 1? This is exactly my question. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On September 05 2011 09:49 Ace wrote: so somehow the Coroner role when divided ends up with a grand total of just 2 checks. Lol wow what bullshit. From the OP: "Not all role descriptions are complete." Don't you thinking by now the real coroner would have counter claimed? Also look at the list of players. If you think the scum team consists of redFF and sinani I don't know what to say. Also if the team is me/redFF/sinani why wouldn't we save redFF from the lynch by blocking one of his voters? What about bum's ridiculous claim have you nothing to say about that? If you argue the inhibitor is not present thus he could not be saved and the lynch results were because of pious I ask you to look at the suposedly townie roles because that would make at least 1 priest 1 medic 1 ridic lawyer claim and very likely a coroner since it's no flip. No roleblocker in this setup? I've been roleblocked twice and you are voting for me without any analysis or reasoning. There is simply no way you are town. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:03 bumatlarge wrote: Jackal is doing the exact same thing as redff, with a half claim. He's blue, he should claim completely. Also, anyone think it's possible there can be 4 scum? There seems to be a lot of powers floating around. Though no dayvig I guess. As far as I understand he has a modified version of my ability in PTP2 and I doubt there is 4 mafia. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
So, Jackal is clean, Drazerk is clean (but probably ressed by mafia) and the only person who was revived yesterday that should even have a shred of suspicion on him is sinani. However I think sinani is probably also town because his claim is very believable, as mafia KP went down during the day upon lynching ON, and it certainly doesn't sound like he's made anything up. Lastly, On September 05 2011 09:55 Ace wrote: I'm almost tempted to believe that everyone who didn't read the OP is actual just dumb Town at this point. Ace says things like this because he already has the knowledge of who is town and who is not. If it isn't obvious yet that our two top priority lynches are bum and Ace, you probably haven't been reading the thread. There's no real point in getting hung up over who is the zombie right now, because shooting him would be a waste of the vig power. Current voting situation: Voting bumatlarge wherebugsgo #1 sinani206 #2 sandroba #4 Jackal58 #7 Voting sandroba Ace #3 bumatlarge #6 Voting Ace chaos13 #5 DAYWALKER DO NOT SHOOT DRAZERK | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:05 sandroba wrote: From the OP: "Not all role descriptions are complete." Don't you thinking by now the real coroner would have counter claimed? Also look at the list of players. If you think the scum team consists of redFF and sinani I don't know what to say. Also if the team is me/redFF/sinani why wouldn't we save redFF from the lynch by blocking one of his voters? What about bum's ridiculous claim have you nothing to say about that? If you argue the inhibitor is not present thus he could not be saved and the lynch results were because of pious I ask you to look at the suposedly townie roles because that would make at least 1 priest 1 medic 1 ridic lawyer claim and very likely a coroner since it's no flip. No roleblocker in this setup? I've been roleblocked twice and you are voting for me without any analysis or reasoning. There is simply no way you are town. I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:02 jcarlsoniv wrote: Oh I understand. Did you try to protect someone night 1? We don't have nights. I protected Palmar day 1 Bum I haven't made half a claim. I'm Guardian Angel. I block all evil doers from visiting a person during that day cycle. iGrok has informed me via PM that copying any parts of my PMs from him will violate rule 6 and result in a modkill. So don't ask. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:01 jcarlsoniv wrote: iGrok, I read through the OP again, and I don't think I saw the answer to this. I know zombies count towards mafia kp. But what if all of the original mafia die and just the zombie is left? Assuming Drazerk was town before his death, he would still be town while being a zombie. So there would be no mafia left? Even though the mafia kp would still technically be 1? If all mafia are killed, and none can possibly be revived, Town wins. If all mafia are killed, and some can possibly be revived, the game goes on. If no mafia are alive or zombies, even if mafia has KP, it cannot be used. If all Town players are killed, and the only Mafia alive are zombies, the game ends in a draw. If all Mafia players are killed, and the only Town alive are zombies, the game ends in a draw. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
DAYWALKER DO NOT SHOOT DRAZERK Necromancer May reanimate a player from the dead. Player becomes a Reanimated Zombie (Veteran in addition to previous Status). If a Necromancer dies, a new scum member becomes a Necromancer. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". If Ace isn't scum you most likely are. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". Dude you need to read more carefully. Bum was the one who colored his own role green. Also, sandroba is right in that it WAS a scum slip. Lastly, the number of things that have happened kinda don't add up to bum being right about sandroba. If bum and Ace both die tonight and someone dies due to a mafia kill anyway then obviously we need to reevaluate tomorrow, but we're not there yet. It doesn't make sense to value bum's claim when it came at the worst time of day possible (right before lynch). If he actually had pro-town agenda he would've claimed that well earlier in the day, when it would've been possible for us to switch votes off bum and onto a scummier target. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is". Then compromise and vote Ace. We need him gone today too. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I agree with this. Except I find it very unlikely that Ace is town. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 05 2011 10:12 wherebugsgo wrote: Dude you need to read more carefully. Bum was the one who colored his own role green. Also, sandroba is right in that it WAS a scum slip. Lastly, the number of things that have happened kinda don't add up to bum being right about sandroba. If bum and Ace both die tonight and someone dies due to a mafia kill anyway then obviously we need to reevaluate tomorrow, but we're not there yet. It doesn't make sense to value bum's claim when it came at the worst time of day possible (right before lynch). If he actually had pro-town agenda he would've claimed that well earlier in the day, when it would've been possible for us to switch votes off bum and onto a scummier target. Apparently the words "I don't necessarily believe his claim" means nothing. Excuse me for playing the devil's advocate. It helps me think and play out scenarios in my head. When I present a converse scenario, it makes everyone else clarify their points (or yell at me and call me an idiot) to try and convince me. | ||
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