Resurrection Mafia - Page 3

On September 03 2011 23:37 Palmar wrote:
Btw, Ace, if you post like whatever you think and know about the game right now, and if you happen to be town, we can probably piece the rest of this together.

I think WGB/Sandroba/redFF/Myself/jcarl are town

I think Kenpachi/Ace/chaos13 are null reads

I think ON/Bum are scum

Thing is, ON/Bum both pressured Kenpachi yesterday, which reduces the chances of him being scum, so if I'm correct it's down to Ace or chaos for scum.

Let's do it.

On September 04 2011 06:11 Kenpachi wrote:
dunno man, i want to get rid of all 3 of the major lynches right now. i'll decide tmrw.

at the end of the day i can see Mafia using their KP on RedFF and Palmar. I will propose to you all to NOT revive Red immediately. Lets revive him later on or force Mafia to revive someone who is valuable to town. Another reason is Mafia's 3rd KP comes from the minion which acts as a free ressurection on blues. Think about it, the longer Red is dead, the more people die and when we really need him, we revive him and check everyone who died (assuming thats how his role works)

On September 04 2011 09:18 Ace wrote:
Good god you people are fucking stupid.

Why are you asking everyone for their Town and Scum reads? Think past your ass for 5 minutes here. It's a no flip game, no information roles except ONE is revealed in the OP, and you aren't sure of the Mafia count.

What the fuck is anyone's Town reads going to accomplish right now but to clutter the thread and lead to bullshit? Secondly telling everyone your town reads opens up to Scum manipulation. Your votes can't criss cross your Town reads or you'll be called out by any decent Scum reading the thread. You shouldn't give your Town reads early because the Mafia can see what players don't have strong support, leading to the easy sheepish behavior by the Town to lynch the person with the least friends.

Stop doing it.

Stop talking about "Town tells, Scum tells, and Null tells". Not one of you have a fucking clue how to use them. Makes my heard hurt reading posts by some moron trying to fit a square peg in a round hole while he has monkey shit on his face.

Stop talking about the balance of the Scum team. You don't know how iGrok chose to pick teams, and even f you got an inkling it's not going to get you very far. Likewise, stop trying to say "if this guy is Scum the this one has to be". Are you dumb? We dont have any flips yet, and get them one at a time. You've got to be retarded to speculate on something that even in normal setups takes some voting wagons and post analysis to figure out.

Now on to some real scum hunting since I left you jubjubs alone and see that you still suck like shit. Amazingly the ability to read and reason hasn't improved in 2 months. redFF's claim is probable. but not likely. I'm going to do this in TWO ways. Just follow sit back and take a seat, and dont drool on my chair.

The main issue with redFF's claim is this:









Back up roles never work like this, and this would be borderline criminal. First of all backup roles aren't used much because it penalizes the Scum team for performing well. The only instance of backup roles I ever see is when the Town success hinges on that one role. It is possible that there is a backup Coroner in the setup. But the backup role is always an exact copy of the original role - never more powerful.

Check it out:



How is it that the back up Coroner can check 2 people while the original can only check one? This doesn't seem right.

Secondly if you really are the backup Coroner tell us both people you checked out, the alignments and the roles. You haven't exactly revealed this information easily and this is a major reason why I don't believe you. Even assuming there is an imbalanced backup Coroner role like you said, this would mean you aren't actually thinking about how the game works. Check it:



If you revealed the roles, at worst you'd let them be able to use their powers and get killed again. However, you just outed your own self as the back up Coroner. Just thinking things through for more than 10 seconds after seeing THREE people die wouldn't it make sense for you to show some restraint? Thats exactly why I posted this earlier:



You could have just bandwagoned this point and made it a big priority. You wouldn't have had to out yourself, and the priest who should be reading the fucking thread would understand - Sinani is innocent because the Coroner never spoke out again him.

Your actions just don't add up for an actual Coroner or Town aligned player that would be thinking for more than 2 minutes. I don't believe you could actually be this stupid (well, maybe) so I'm calling your claim bullshit.



Of the people you checked, 2 died by lynch which above all else are Town influenced lynches. 3 people died by Night Kill which above all else are almost certainly Scum influenced.

But you checked the people that were lynched.

Bullshit.

On September 04 2011 09:24 redFF wrote:
lol...
im a back up coroner, i have 2 checks, and i can use them both at any time. thats it.

On September 04 2011 07:05 redFF wrote:
im secret coroners apprentice, i can check twice a day.

On September 04 2011 09:30 redFF wrote:
...yes?

On September 04 2011 09:31 Ace wrote:
I can't take your claim seriously. The real Coroner would not Counter Claim in this situation because it's not LYLO so it would be dumb. A Real Cop doesn't CC Scum claiming Cop unless the Town is seriously buying it and will lynch a Townie. No one is getting lynched over your claim so the Coroner has no reason to Counter Claim. Or he's dead.

On September 04 2011 09:38 redFF wrote:

meh shitty play doesn't get my 2 top scum suspects lynched day 1 while non of yours do, but keep standing at the sidelines and calling everybody terrible while you continually can't get anybody you want lynched.

On September 04 2011 09:42 redFF wrote:
you only get lynched as town if your bad, not your attacker's fault you played scummy. meh ima go now, i've said everything ive needed to say.

On September 04 2011 10:28 Ace wrote:


doesn't change anything. iGrok hasn't confirmed or denied anything about redFF's role.

It still doesn't help explain why a backup role would out himself. No one can play this badly. I'm not buying it and my vote is staying where it is. Go talk to someone else because your wasting my time.

On September 04 2011 10:28 Ace wrote:HOWEVER, he is the BACKUP coroner right? That means he is the last one. Why the hell would he out himself just for Sinani when he just saw 3 people get Night Killed. He'll die by Day 3 and the Town will have no Coroners left. The game is essentially over at that point.

Think about this for more than 5 seconds.

On September 04 2011 10:28 Ace wrote:
As for your bolded that doesn't even make any sense. Bum avoiding a lynch doesn't make him Scummy, and it has no relation to sandroba's alleged role block. Even if sandroba voted for Bum, assuming bum is Scum why would that give him cause to RB sandroba? That doesn't add up at all. Faulty logic there.

On September 04 2011 10:28 Ace wrote:
Your second point also makes no sense. Most votes wins, not majority. ON leaving his vote anywhere when there are low vote counts to die and a role that has double voting power means this tells you nothing unless Kenpachi dies by low vote count.

On September 04 2011 10:28 Ace wrote:
If red is playing like shit (very high possibility) and weird stuff is going on it makes sense to lynch him. An unconfirmed claim that is an automatic game over if he dies? Why are you even thinking about bum and ON?