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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 02 2011 21:56 GMT
#329
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)

varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.

Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 02 2011 21:57 GMT
#330
On September 03 2011 06:23 Palmar wrote:
he voted for chaos13: I'll just say this now, I can't conclude chaos13's alignment. Like, I think he's town but someone else needs to pick up the slack. I simply can't know his alignment because his play is illogical.

what do you think of sinani.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 02 2011 22:03 GMT
#333
k

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257019&user=154261
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#350
On September 03 2011 07:53 sandroba wrote:
What? A little while back you criticised the silly bandwagon forming on varp and now you are voting for him? Why not on the way more useless and non contributory ON? You said yourself that you didn't want to double lynch day1 and even sugested we used our priest to revive one of the lynches. What is anti-town about his idea of lynching the scummiest lurker + a normal lynch?
The very good analysis you are refering to is basically redFF saying one of the first posts on the thread is non contributory and appearing to be pro-town. He pointed out that he did so as scum in a previous game, in which he got lynched day 1 for it. If you are judging only meta from his very first post, do you really think he would do the same shit again? Or do you think it's more likely that despite the risk of getting lynched he was legimately concerned about spamming/lurking/trolling going on in the recent tl games?

no hes scum
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 00:31 GMT
#364
could have been a vig
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 00:51 GMT
#372
JAH KEN COME PLAY LOL PLZZZZ
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 01:14 GMT
#379
revive sinani
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 01:16 GMT
#382
##vote bumatlarge
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 01:32 GMT
#386
im secret coroners apprentice, checked varp and sinani both town ressurect sinani plz.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 01:32 GMT
#387
i become coroner if coroner dies
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 01:35 GMT
#388
which obviously coroner did cuz i checked ppl/
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 01:39 GMT
#390
... thanks?

bumatlarge, originalname, maybe palmar.

I'm pretty obv town based on the fact im one of the only players who actually attempted to do any form of analysis yesterday and led a lynch on an imo scummy person.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 01:59 GMT
#394
erm i analysed varp.

bum

On September 01 2011 21:43 bumatlarge wrote:
Ill talk about wherebugsgo later today. Let's say I'd make him out to be similar to sandroba in terms of intelligence

never mentioned wherebugsgo again.
On September 02 2011 11:36 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +

Holy Priest
May Resurrect 1 player from the dead per day. The Resurrected Player will not expire in the manner a zombie does.

Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm).

Daywalker
Lynchproof daykiller - the kill will happen as soon as I get the pm. When a Daywalker uses his kill, he loses the lynchproof power.

Pious Man
The Pious Man's vote counts twice. You will not know if you are Pious, and your hidden vote will only be reflected in the Lynch Results.

Town-person
You are a normal person. You only go to church on Christmas and Easter.

Necromancer
May reanimate a player from the dead. Player becomes a Reanimated Zombie (Veteran in addition to previous Status). If a Necromancer dies, a new scum member becomes a Necromancer.

Inhibitor
May target any player to block their power and vote.

Minion
Has a 1-shot power: If a minion targets a player who has no powers, that player will die - regardless of protection. If that player has a power, that player will die, but will be resurrected after 1 day cycle.


We should be reading more into the role list we have. This is an extremely odd set-up where lynching and killing is not completely based around eliminating scum. In fact, basing our tactics on that is short-sighted and I mean to remedy this.

Dead players create a "pool" of suspects that a coroner can utilize. I am fairly certain we have 1 or 2 coroners, or else the game has a ridiculous set-up. In a way, the first lynch is really important, yet not as cruel with the Resurrection mechanic. We immediately lynch two players, and the coroner(s) must choose between them. I don't see how intentionally misleading roles like millers or sanity can be in this game, so I'm assuming what a coroner get's is 100%. So this is what I'm thinking, and I'm sure I haven't been the first person to speculate.

If we have an unlynchable claim, and we put a few votes on him along with someone else we deem scummy, we can economically manage our now chaotic lynching power into something very useful and organized at this point in the game. The priest and coroner can double team the other dead person and hold on to what they get. Most likely the unlynchable will get shot, and the high priest can devote his power in keeping that person alive, while the coroner can go to town, and if mafia ever stop shooting the unlynchable, we get a confirmed town.

Its extremely unlikely for mafia to have an unlynchable themselves without town having a direct counter to such shenanigans. Think about it, that one mafia member would have to be shot by the unlynchable, or he wins the game by himself. There are multiple loopholes to this plan, like perhaps a 1 lynch immune mafia that could "prove" himself, or perhaps a mafia watcher who can see who visits a dead person (goodbye priest and coroner :X)

Thoughts on this? Also varpulis wagon is hilarious, though I'm not taking my eyes off him, the fact that that many people gunned on him from the little thing I picked up without questioning everything else gives us some great partners for unlynchable if this can follow through. I mean at worst mafia figures out who they can't push a lynch on?

Can a High Priest revive the same person more then once?

calls varp wagon hilarious then says i made good points about him in the post below.also bluefishing for vigi.
On September 02 2011 11:47 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 21:53 Palmar wrote:
On September 01 2011 21:43 bumatlarge wrote:
Ill talk about wherebugsgo later today. Let's say I'd make him out to be similar to sandroba in terms of intelligence


I don't know what that means to you, but Sandroba is one of the stronger players in this game. Wherebugsgo has the ambition and time, but he's still relatively new.

Like, Sandroba is in my "If he's wrong, he's scum" category.


It is a compliment, read XLIV, he nailed me role and alignment, but I can't say more then that, figure it out yourself

##Unvote varpulis

I still find it likely that varpulis can be scum (redff has made good points), but in the event that he is not, I would look heavily into these people, in order of scuminess IMO.

Kenpachi - FoSing redff then voting varp. Every game I reset what I think kenpachi would do as each alignment. In this instance he's given more then he usually does, and it stands out as illogical even for kenpachi.

Palmar - For once jumping on a wagon rather then making his own 8 billion reasons. This stands out.

redff - Seems completely legitimate, but he is capable of such a ploy as scum. He's bottom tier in this.

So Kenpachi > Varp > Palmar > redff.
##Vote Kenpachi

unvotes varpulis, saying its likely hes scum, then votes kenpachi -_-

then he jumped back on the varp wagon to make sure he got lynched. bum=scum.

originalname

On September 01 2011 11:05 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 10:57 redFF wrote:
On September 01 2011 10:47 Varpulis wrote:
On September 01 2011 10:38 redFF wrote:
not comparing you to kurumi, just noting how your play is similar to your play in kurumi's game when you were scum.

Ah, that.

anything else?


...Meta lynching? Reals?

On September 02 2011 15:40 OriginalName wrote:
Where the fuck are Drazerk and Sknowman?

Also the one thing I've noticed from posting today is Kenpachis vanilla claim. Firstly why do it? He's trying to establish townieness then basically asks a few questions then completely drops off the face of the earth. Nothing else seems to come out of him and I personally don't mind offing him.

Also along with the above the last time he claimed townie and lurked he flipped scum.

So in recap:

For shitposting and meta I vote

##Vote: Kenpachi

also votes kenpachi
shitposting and meta, he does that shit every game. terrible vote. doesnt even switch to anyone else, keeps a meaningless vote on a shitty candidate, doesnt want to affect lynch obv.

On September 03 2011 09:23 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK MAFIA KP IS 3


We dont know that for sure. Settle down there is probably more going on right now than is clear to us.

could have unvoted ken but APPEARS RIGHT AFTER LYNCH. of course we don't know why there were 3 kills but you do.

palmar

On September 01 2011 09:17 Palmar wrote:
Can mafia decide to nightkill mafia?

why would town ask this, filler question just to make a post.
palmars posting just feels off to me, more of a gut than anything else.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 02:01 GMT
#395
On September 03 2011 10:58 Ace wrote:
## vote redff

why
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 02:01 GMT
#396
On September 03 2011 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 10:39 redFF wrote:
... thanks?

bumatlarge, originalname, maybe palmar.

I'm pretty obv town based on the fact im one of the only players who actually attempted to do any form of analysis yesterday and led a lynch on an imo scummy person.


-_-

What analysis? You just tunneled them to hell.

Why do you suspect bum/ON and palmar?

like my second post of the game on varp.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 02:54 GMT
#401
lol@that defense. nice analysis chaos, i was specifically confused at how aggresive he was at me when i claimed with the swearing and the cursing and how he kept saying he knew varp and sinani were town and it was obvious yet did very little to stop their lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote wherebugsgo

also town being dumb is not a valid response, if your getting voted its nobodys fault but ur own. i would like ace to contribute.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 04:25 GMT
#407
its weird that your longest and biggest contribution to the thread is defending yourself.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 13:45 GMT
#412
On September 03 2011 13:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 13:25 redFF wrote:
its weird that your longest and biggest contribution to the thread is defending yourself.


The thread is chock full of null tells right now, how many times do I have to say this?

The only exceptions are you and chaos13, and honestly that's not difficult to see now.

ah..OMGUS.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 20:05 GMT
#437
meh
##Unvote
##Vote OriginalName


revive sinani.

On September 03 2011 22:56 sandroba wrote:
redFF you are most likely town because now that I think about it there is no way you could know that the coroner is dead and you would risk being insta counter claimed by the real coroner and thus get lynched if you were mafia. That being said please don't make the same mistake again spamming the thread and getting a townie killed. Read wbg defense. Unless he is the master of deceit, he is very unlikely to be mafia. Please put your vote somewhere more productive.

i didn't get a townie killed, it wasnt a vig shot. the townie died because he posted scummy, not my fault.

redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 03 2011 20:20 GMT
#440
btw if it isnt obvious i kinda took a step back today because my 2 scummiest reads were both town lol.
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