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On August 19 2011 13:51 hiro protagonist wrote: this game started all ready? Palmar is scum. See you in the morning! lol! hiro and I are damaged from last mini mafia where palmar singlehandedly won the game :D hey to both of you. regarding the early accusations: i see nothing yet which lets me believe we have a scum for certain. but i am damaged from last mini mafia: if dropbear ever dies and turns out to be not scum, Palmar is on my hit list :D | ||
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Palmar: do you have any reasonable logic on why to lynch dropbear? you accused brownbear for a while in between, but you switched back to DB. Why?? Lucidity: what did you expect from telling everybody you're a townie? Kurumi: would you kindly stop playing random question/answer games in this thread? please don't tell me its a ingenious tactic to find mafia.. supersoft: agressive much? nearly every post of you was an accusation so far without any proper reasoning behind it. your post relating to me included 2 unrelated parts of my post and you twisted em together to create a new meaning - accident or not? and whats up with all that mayor stuff. i don't like having the fate of the lynch in the hands of one guy who might be scum. a big fat no to that until someone can tell me why we should need it (explanations so far were... lacking). anyway its hard to keep track of everything, PLEASE reduce the non-relevant spam (hey kurumi) to a minimum! | ||
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we have way more interesting candidates imo. 1. servyn, for obvious reasons. no need to repeat it the 5th time 2. foolishness, why do you think Mig's post is more scummy than the last few posts of servyn? i kinda understand why the post sounds scummy as it adds nothing new and tries to convince, but what is your opinion about servyn then? 3. mig, foolishness has a point which shouldn't be forgotten. 4. dropbear, i have no idea. curious though. of course he was pushed in the defensive most of the day but didnt give anything scummy away during that. that mayor suggestion was weird though. 5. hiro protagonist, waiting to read more posts from you as you're one of the very few people in the game i know from before. so far you posted just the bare minimum.. :3 regarding "pressuring": do it more carefully please or: don't throw your votes around because of some lesser scummy part you see in a post and retract them 30 minutes later. this made the thread pretty messy already which helps scum more than town. | ||
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 from reading the last few pages the current lynch options which have a chance of reaching 50% seem to be brownbear and sevryn. palmar is still being attacked by some - please stop voting for him because he used a... different tactic to get responses on day1 (i ask you to reduce your tunneling though - it's not a helpful playstyle over a longer period). he is not a good choice for a day 1 lynch. now, to decide between brownbear and sevryn: sevryn's case has been made, but sadly this quote is so true: Yeah his reasons are pretty stupid. Guess what: townies are usually way more stupid than mafia. he cornered himself in a bad spot early on - i'm looking forward to his next posts after not answering ~5 pages of accusations against him. this can wait until day 2 or 3 though - i want to see more posts of him before a possible lynch. Palmar's case against brownbear is reasonable, especially the part about diverting his vote to JeeJee out of (nearly) nothing. why JeeJee instead of one of the many other inactives? also brownbear seems to not really get Palmar's intention with his tunneling - it's not about the tunneling ("pressuring", lol) but the responses from the pressured person as well as other responses to the over-the-top tunneling. i will check the thread after dinner again and put my vote, so far im inclined to vote brownbear - i want to see that voting list beforehand though to make sure we get a lynch today. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:33 supersoft wrote: perfect, xtfftc and nard both refuse to vote for sevryn and say they want to wait until he defends himself. There is no reason not to vote him until he defends himself. whats the matter with you twisting around my posts? what do we get from lynching him today? the case against him will be the same tomorrow. also if you read my post again (try it a bit slower this time) i reasoned against it because if he is indeed mafia, any additional post from him will help dig mafia's grave. as the situation didn't change too much since my last post and we have a whole lot of people on sevryn already i will support the votes for brownbear to make a last minute change at least possible - i plead you to read the case against him and his posts again and think again. ##vote BrownBear see you at night! | ||
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first off there are only 2 viable lynch targets for tonight: Mig and hiro protagonist. Palmar, if you would mind stopping to start another band wagon for a 3rd, please save it for tomorrow. 2nd: lets get a roll call going. i will be around for the next hour or so. when does the day end? 10 or 11 KST? depending on how much time is left i will analyze both hiro and mig now, starting with hiro. filtering now.. | ||
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Hiro: -tries to get a bandwagon for rayzor going, but does not pursue it on day2, saying there are better targets today but not naming em: also, I dont think Razor is a good lynch today, there are more important suspects to look at. 1. Where did I say that I dont find him scummy? I said there are better targets today. -lots of one-liners, asking questions but refuting to answer questions directed at him (before he got pressured) -only real case he makes is against DB after fake DT claim, lame arguments though http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&user=43447&user=43447 -jumps back to sheepmode in a ridiculous way, makes only sense for someone desperate On August 24 2011 05:08 hiro protagonist wrote: Wow, Ok, no one likes that idea. does everyone think Im stupid? ##Unvote: DropBear Im just gonna sheep whoever is the highest vote is by the end of the day. -defends Mig and is all around the place: I think Mig is a bad lynch. his defense against foolishness is very good. Also, xtfftc is of my intrest as well. no one wants to lynch DB for whatever reason. it might be a good time to lynch a lurker. Or Erandorr, I would be down for lynching this guy. 4-8 accusations without anything backing it up, and 13 minutes later full switch on Mig On August 24 2011 07:20 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, Palmar has convinced me. also, its not like I have much choice in the matter. ##Vote [red]Mig I would still rather lynch Razorflash, but I can see how that most likely wont happen. Adds another accusation on top lol -offers to vote himself to get a lynch… if he is scum he won’t follow through, if he is town he shouldn’t do it just to get a confirmed , dead townie. -instant switch to chaos13 after palmar proposal without him ever typing out his name before.. -vet claim just before night? Even though he himself wrote before: claims that cannot be confirmed must never happen | ||
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Mig: Day1: -makes a small case based on meta against chaoser, jumps on servyn after seeing its going nowhere Day2: -keeps on pressuring chaoser -low activity, burnout excuse after being pressured a lot. -makes a good case against DB (before DT claim) while still on the defensive – reread case tomorrow - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11024013 -??? due to the filter i only read Migs posts without the unquoted accusations against him, but his play makes sense for town. is it some meta argument against him? i will re-read his case against DB tomorrow, together with everything else surrounding DB. can someone link me the main case against Mig? ##vote hiro protagonist | ||
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On August 24 2011 10:14 supersoft wrote: tank you for confirming my accusation on you. You're 100% scum as well as xtfftc. This town plays horribly, I don't know why everyone only listens to the fucking scumteam. I am okay with lynching xtfftc, chaos13, Kurumi and nard. But I won't lynch hiro. Even if I provoke a no lynch. I don't want to be the scumteams instrument to kill another poor townie for a horrible reason. you're freaking hilarious. has there been a post from me which you didn't quote and reply a "you're 100% scum okthx" without ANY reasoning behind it? i guess i can be lucky that you decided to quote me instead of twisting my words around like you did with my first post. hiro: a self-vote? why in heavens.. this makes no sense from any perspective at all. if you are town, try to defend yourself properly instead of making sure you get lynched. if you're scum... do the same lol. | ||
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you played a more convincing town when you were scum in our last mini mafia -_- | ||
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so i guess i'm a nosy neighbor? of course anything i say now is kinda suspicious.please think it through though - a third townie lynch will hurt us so bad i don't think we can recover from it. do we have some other way of confirming me? maybe chaoser or better, somebody unclaimed as chaoser won't survive for long i guess. anyway like i wrote yesterday, i will be actively monitoring the thread in the following hours and am ready to respond to your stuff. | ||
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1: im scum. 2: im a nosy neighbor and the setup includes a godfather 3: ?? | ||
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Mafia list: nard, BrownBear, Barundar, Pyo, RayzorFlash. If one of those flip green then Erandorr. this list xtfftc? I disagree with Barundar (and me obviously) being scummy. So far he didn't appear on my scum-o-meter at all. BrownBear and Pyo are my main candidates - i have to filter RayzorFlash again but all i can remember are accusations against him by supersoft... which i can't take too seriously. BrownBear: caught my attention with his first throw-away vote on JeeJee. I kept re-reading his posts but couldn't put my finger on it what exactly made him stand out. Foolishness' case made it clearer for me, no need to repeat his analysis. his replacement threw me off a little though, i don't have a good read on him. Pyo: this is how you lurk as scum. my safest guess. other people who make me curious: Lucidity, Vain, Kurumi and xtfftc i will be back online in ~2 hours. is it correct that Foolishness watching me visit Mig on the night of his death does mean there is godfather in the game? Or is there a third possibility (in your eyes, besides me being scum)? | ||
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