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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:29 wherebugsgo wrote: Where in that post did I suggest you were mafia? You didn't, I was responding to the whole page. The hostility in some of the posts is clearly visible, I believe. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote: I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills. Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone! | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone! God damn it you posted this before my analysis  I WANTED TO BE FIRST | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
##vote Vain My analysis of some others whose posts I've read: Jackal: I strongly feel Jackal is town, but there was one small mistake earlier: RayzorFlash just made a nice ninja vote on Hiro. I think that was just an honest slip, as Rayzor made a post earlier but Jackal probably didn't notice it. Verdict: 95% sure Jackal is town Pyo is lurking. He has added very little, if anything to discussion, but has somehow stayed out of the limelight. I'm uncertain on him, we need to wait a couple days and poke him a little to force some activity. Verdict: ??? xtfftc has made some "contributions", but his reactions have been really strange. Supersoft made a list once of people who haven't voted, and xtfftc jumped to the conclusion that it was a suspicion list. In the same post, he said he would respond to Quicksilver's accusations: I will answer to QuickSilver in a separate post because this one is long enough anyway. but never actually made such a post, semi-copping out with this trash: If I don't answer QuickSilver, people will claim that I have nothing to say in my defense. If I don't analyse Sevyrn, I will be accused of not contributing. I will try to do both as there is enough time before the deadline but this is exactly what Mafia want us to do - discuss a number of targets instead of a single one. Apologizes meekly to supersoft later, why? Then there's this gem: On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote: I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills. wat I prefer vain right now, but xtfftc is worth a hard look. I say this primarily because he, too, has been copping out and dodging. He never did what he said he would (respond to Quicksilver) and he hasn't contributed anything. He also has responded rather strangely at times. He also made the statement about the 2 town lynch while copping out of actually voting for someone. Verdict: I think he's mafia. (when I called him out on why he's not voting, that's what he said. But, he voted when people said that Sevryn wouldn't be modkilled if we're going to lynch him anyway) Mig I feel is scum. The reason is primarily because he contradicted himself on the meta arguments, and his response to the accusations has been very strange. Other players have pointed out the scumminess in Mig, I don't think I have to repeat their statements. Filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&user=11719 I feel like I'm missing some things...but I'll be back with more soon. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:30 xtfftc wrote: And while he is working on it, how about you sharing your thoughts on my persona? The first time you ever mentioned me was when you voted for my lynching. well, there's this: On August 20 2011 05:09 xtfftc wrote: ##Vote: Palmar He obviously had something in mind and there's no way he wasn't aware of how his accusations would be perceived by the rest of us. However, his strategy hasn't benefited town by now. He has until the deadline to convince me to vote DropBear or BrownBear. If nothing meaningful comes out of the discussion initiated by him, I'd rather have one less player who throws arbitrary accusations around. I'd also like to point out that it shouldn't be that difficult to convince me to switch to DropBear, considering DropBear's behaviour. yeah, If I was scum, I wouldn't want someone around that randomly accusing people ether. I mean, why would you want anyone to do something that puts pressure on scum, right? | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
Could a vig please kill lucidity? he's emulating Kenpachi, and managing to be less helpful. Completely unreadable and unhelpful, and yet he's not under and pressure or getting any attention. I'd like him gone, ASAP. With that said, I'm going to vote Mig, who i have a more confident read on. He's defending himself by saying that meta arguments are bad while at the same time attacking Chaoser for meta reasons. On August 22 2011 17:51 Mig wrote: Chaoser you are technically correct but really you are twisting my words around to try and make me appear scummy. Not all meta arguments are the same, you didn't see me disagreeing with other meta arguments foolish had made in the thread. But his meta argument about how my "attitude" was different and therefore mafia was incorrect. He provided no examples of me acting that way as mafia and that attitude hadn't done anything to hurt the town. My meta argument against you was completely different. As town I have seen you dominate and put a ton of effort into scum hunting. This game I see you writing complete fluff posts and providing no analysis while making an excuse for being busy. Anyone can look at your play in mafia 39 and see how different it is compared to this game. Foolishness' meta argument didn't show one way or the other whether I was town and it didn't show how I was harming the town with my play however your play style is a complete 180 from your normal town play and is considerably worse than normal for you. So instead of providing any real analysis this game you started off with A) writing fluff posts B) voted for me basically just saying yea I agree with foolish then disappeared before the lynch and now C) you are twisting my words around to make me appear scummy when it should be obvious how different my argument was from the one foolish made. #Vote: chaoser ##vote Mig | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:33 xtfftc wrote: You didn't, I was responding to the whole page. The hostility in some of the posts is clearly visible, I believe. It's strange that you chose to post a clarification when I specifically directed a question at Vain. Yes, my one-liner was provocative. That was intentional. However, Vain was the receiver of my provocation. Why on earth would you step in? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:22 hiro protagonist wrote: I have no idea what your trying to say Vain... He asked me if i meant what xtffc said. To me it was pretty clear but i guess not to everyone. So to be clear: Yes, if we agree on a single target and direct vigilante's to them you have a big chance mafia just protects them. but i think we wasted too much posts on that subject already. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:53 Vain wrote: He asked me if i meant what xtffc said. To me it was pretty clear but i guess not to everyone. So to be clear: Yes, if we agree on a single target and direct vigilante's to them you have a big chance mafia just protects them. but i think we wasted too much posts on that subject already. Who are the 3 scummiest people to you, then? | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone! On August 23 2011 04:43 wherebugsgo wrote: God damn it you posted this before my analysis I WANTED TO BE FIRSTMod kill = a kill made by a mod. Mafia kill = a kill made by the mafia. Town kill = a kill made by the town. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote: hiro, he actually backpedaled on Palmar. Why are you defending Palmar against someone who didn't really find him all that suspicious? Where did Hiro defend Palmar? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:50 hiro protagonist wrote: well, there's this: yeah, If I was scum, I wouldn't want someone around that randomly accusing people ether. I mean, why would you want anyone to do something that puts pressure on scum, right? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:57 VisceraEyes wrote: hiro - I say we take a hard look at VAIN and lynch XTC. I'll even put my vote on it if you'll agree. Vain is the very picture of inactive and is more worth a random bullet some random night than a lynch. We should use our lynch for people we're relatively certain is scum...and your post reads more like you're more certain that XT is scum. So why not lynch scum instead of an inactive that 'makes your scumdar go crazy'...he hasn't posted enough for us to ACTUALLY divine his alignment, let's give him that opportunity...or make him eat a bullet. was this directed at me? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On August 23 2011 04:55 xtfftc wrote: Mod kill = a kill made by a mod. Mafia kill = a kill made by the mafia. Town kill = a kill made by the town. Or "two town kills" could be interpreted as Sevyrn (Town) killed by mod, mislynch of your choosing, killed by town with mafia influence (town). It was mostly a joke. Mostly. | ||
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