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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 22 2011 19:33 GMT
#861
On August 23 2011 04:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:11 xtfftc wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote:
He is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect.


Nah, let him answer. He's been dodging.

If I was mafia and thought that this was a situation in which a fellow member of the mafia might slip, I'd send him a PM.

On August 23 2011 03:48 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote:
He is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect.

Are you verifying this?

I am verifying that it would be wise to consider more than one target when talking about vigilantes, especially now that QuickSilver is dead.


Where in that post did I suggest you were mafia?

You didn't, I was responding to the whole page. The hostility in some of the posts is clearly visible, I believe.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 19:40 GMT
#862
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 19:40 GMT
#863
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 22 2011 19:43 GMT
#864
On August 23 2011 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone!


God damn it you posted this before my analysis I WANTED TO BE FIRST
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 19:47 GMT
#865
Heh...I'm working on one too and his posts were filtered....sry bro.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 22 2011 19:50 GMT
#866
I prefer Vain. Every time I filter his posts I think, mmm this guy's lurking...let's wait. But every time he posts anew my scummeter explodes. His last post, "that is correct" is just vague. Nothing this guy has said yet has been productive, either. He dodges everything, every question, every suggestion.

##vote Vain

My analysis of some others whose posts I've read:

Jackal: I strongly feel Jackal is town, but there was one small mistake earlier:

RayzorFlash just made a nice ninja vote on Hiro.


I think that was just an honest slip, as Rayzor made a post earlier but Jackal probably didn't notice it.

Verdict: 95% sure Jackal is town

Pyo is lurking. He has added very little, if anything to discussion, but has somehow stayed out of the limelight. I'm uncertain on him, we need to wait a couple days and poke him a little to force some activity. Verdict: ???

xtfftc has made some "contributions", but his reactions have been really strange. Supersoft made a list once of people who haven't voted, and xtfftc jumped to the conclusion that it was a suspicion list. In the same post, he said he would respond to Quicksilver's accusations:

I will answer to QuickSilver in a separate post because this one is long enough anyway.


but never actually made such a post, semi-copping out with this trash:

If I don't answer QuickSilver, people will claim that I have nothing to say in my defense.
If I don't analyse Sevyrn, I will be accused of not contributing.

I will try to do both as there is enough time before the deadline but this is exactly what Mafia want us to do - discuss a number of targets instead of a single one.


Apologizes meekly to supersoft later, why?

Then there's this gem:

On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


wat

I prefer vain right now, but xtfftc is worth a hard look. I say this primarily because he, too, has been copping out and dodging. He never did what he said he would (respond to Quicksilver) and he hasn't contributed anything. He also has responded rather strangely at times. He also made the statement about the 2 town lynch while copping out of actually voting for someone. Verdict: I think he's mafia.

(when I called him out on why he's not voting, that's what he said. But, he voted when people said that Sevryn wouldn't be modkilled if we're going to lynch him anyway)

Mig I feel is scum. The reason is primarily because he contradicted himself on the meta arguments, and his response to the accusations has been very strange. Other players have pointed out the scumminess in Mig, I don't think I have to repeat their statements. Filter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&user=11719

I feel like I'm missing some things...but I'll be back with more soon.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 22 2011 19:50 GMT
#867
On August 23 2011 04:30 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
while you here, could you give me your opinion of xtfftc? who do you want to lynch today?

And while he is working on it, how about you sharing your thoughts on my persona? The first time you ever mentioned me was when you voted for my lynching.


well, there's this:

On August 20 2011 05:09 xtfftc wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

He obviously had something in mind and there's no way he wasn't aware of how his accusations would be perceived by the rest of us.

However, his strategy hasn't benefited town by now. He has until the deadline to convince me to vote DropBear or BrownBear. If nothing meaningful comes out of the discussion initiated by him, I'd rather have one less player who throws arbitrary accusations around.

I'd also like to point out that it shouldn't be that difficult to convince me to switch to DropBear, considering DropBear's behaviour.


yeah, If I was scum, I wouldn't want someone around that randomly accusing people ether. I mean, why would you want anyone to do something that puts pressure on scum, right?
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 22 2011 19:51 GMT
#868
Sorry for my lack of activity guys, my computer was getting fixed up all day yesterday.

Could a vig please kill lucidity? he's emulating Kenpachi, and managing to be less helpful. Completely unreadable and unhelpful, and yet he's not under and pressure or getting any attention. I'd like him gone, ASAP.

With that said, I'm going to vote Mig, who i have a more confident read on. He's defending himself by saying that meta arguments are bad while at the same time attacking Chaoser for meta reasons.
On August 22 2011 17:51 Mig wrote:
Chaoser you are technically correct but really you are twisting my words around to try and make me appear scummy. Not all meta arguments are the same, you didn't see me disagreeing with other meta arguments foolish had made in the thread. But his meta argument about how my "attitude" was different and therefore mafia was incorrect. He provided no examples of me acting that way as mafia and that attitude hadn't done anything to hurt the town. My meta argument against you was completely different. As town I have seen you dominate and put a ton of effort into scum hunting. This game I see you writing complete fluff posts and providing no analysis while making an excuse for being busy. Anyone can look at your play in mafia 39 and see how different it is compared to this game. Foolishness' meta argument didn't show one way or the other whether I was town and it didn't show how I was harming the town with my play however your play style is a complete 180 from your normal town play and is considerably worse than normal for you.

So instead of providing any real analysis this game you started off with A) writing fluff posts B) voted for me basically just saying yea I agree with foolish then disappeared before the lynch and now C) you are twisting my words around to make me appear scummy when it should be obvious how different my argument was from the one foolish made.

#Vote: chaoser

##vote Mig
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 19:52 GMT
#869
hiro, he actually backpedaled on Palmar. Why are you defending Palmar against someone who didn't really find him all that suspicious?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 22 2011 19:53 GMT
#870
On August 23 2011 04:33 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 23 2011 04:11 xtfftc wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote:
He is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect.


Nah, let him answer. He's been dodging.

If I was mafia and thought that this was a situation in which a fellow member of the mafia might slip, I'd send him a PM.

On August 23 2011 03:48 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote:
He is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect.

Are you verifying this?

I am verifying that it would be wise to consider more than one target when talking about vigilantes, especially now that QuickSilver is dead.


Where in that post did I suggest you were mafia?

You didn't, I was responding to the whole page. The hostility in some of the posts is clearly visible, I believe.


It's strange that you chose to post a clarification when I specifically directed a question at Vain.

Yes, my one-liner was provocative. That was intentional. However, Vain was the receiver of my provocation. Why on earth would you step in?

+ Show Spoiler +
Only two answers for that: you're scum, or you're incredibly stupid.

+ Show Spoiler +
I call scum
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
August 22 2011 19:53 GMT
#871
On August 23 2011 04:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:20 Vain wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:52 supersoft wrote:
funny how xtfftc, vain and rayzorflash defend each other ;-)

On August 23 2011 02:58 Vain wrote:
On August 23 2011 02:44 supersoft wrote:
why don't we lynch RayzorFlash? He's probably gotten coached and his death would give us a lot of information to work with...


Can you write out what information we get then? In my opinion that only creates more wifom


On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote:
He (Vain) is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect.


@vain:
you want an answer to your question? filter me.


That is correct


I have no idea what your trying to say Vain...


He asked me if i meant what xtffc said. To me it was pretty clear but i guess not to everyone. So to be clear: Yes, if we agree on a single target and direct vigilante's to them you have a big chance mafia just protects them. but i think we wasted too much posts on that subject already.
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 22 2011 19:54 GMT
#872
On August 23 2011 04:53 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
On August 23 2011 04:20 Vain wrote:
On August 23 2011 03:52 supersoft wrote:
funny how xtfftc, vain and rayzorflash defend each other ;-)

On August 23 2011 02:58 Vain wrote:
On August 23 2011 02:44 supersoft wrote:
why don't we lynch RayzorFlash? He's probably gotten coached and his death would give us a lot of information to work with...


Can you write out what information we get then? In my opinion that only creates more wifom


On August 23 2011 03:30 xtfftc wrote:
He (Vain) is saying that if we agree on one single target for a vigilante, mafia would know who to protect.


@vain:
you want an answer to your question? filter me.


That is correct


I have no idea what your trying to say Vain...


He asked me if i meant what xtffc said. To me it was pretty clear but i guess not to everyone. So to be clear: Yes, if we agree on a single target and direct vigilante's to them you have a big chance mafia just protects them. but i think we wasted too much posts on that subject already.


Who are the 3 scummiest people to you, then?
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 22 2011 19:55 GMT
#873
On August 23 2011 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone!


On August 23 2011 04:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone!


God damn it you posted this before my analysis I WANTED TO BE FIRST


Mod kill = a kill made by a mod.
Mafia kill = a kill made by the mafia.
Town kill = a kill made by the town.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 19:56 GMT
#874
On August 23 2011 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro, he actually backpedaled on Palmar. Why are you defending Palmar against someone who didn't really find him all that suspicious?

Where did Hiro defend Palmar?
Life can only kill you once.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 19:57 GMT
#875
hiro - I say we take a hard look at VAIN and lynch XTC. I'll even put my vote on it if you'll agree. Vain is the very picture of inactive and is more worth a random bullet some random night than a lynch. We should use our lynch for people we're relatively certain is scum...and your post reads more like you're more certain that XT is scum. So why not lynch scum instead of an inactive that 'makes your scumdar go crazy'...he hasn't posted enough for us to ACTUALLY divine his alignment, let's give him that opportunity...or make him eat a bullet.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 19:58 GMT
#876
On August 23 2011 04:56 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro, he actually backpedaled on Palmar. Why are you defending Palmar against someone who didn't really find him all that suspicious?

Where did Hiro defend Palmar?


On August 23 2011 04:50 hiro protagonist wrote:

well, there's this:

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:09 xtfftc wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

He obviously had something in mind and there's no way he wasn't aware of how his accusations would be perceived by the rest of us.

However, his strategy hasn't benefited town by now. He has until the deadline to convince me to vote DropBear or BrownBear. If nothing meaningful comes out of the discussion initiated by him, I'd rather have one less player who throws arbitrary accusations around.

I'd also like to point out that it shouldn't be that difficult to convince me to switch to DropBear, considering DropBear's behaviour.


yeah, If I was scum, I wouldn't want someone around that randomly accusing people ether. I mean, why would you want anyone to do something that puts pressure on scum, right?

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 20:00 GMT
#877
It was a soft-defend, but it was there. My eyes are picking up "Palmar" rather acutely right now, so I saw it immediately...but it's soft enough to not appear that way. People have been soft-defending Palmar all game, lending credence to his whole 'wtf ever dude ask anyone I'm town' vibe I get from him...but it's all bologna.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
August 22 2011 20:00 GMT
#878
On August 23 2011 04:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro - I say we take a hard look at VAIN and lynch XTC. I'll even put my vote on it if you'll agree. Vain is the very picture of inactive and is more worth a random bullet some random night than a lynch. We should use our lynch for people we're relatively certain is scum...and your post reads more like you're more certain that XT is scum. So why not lynch scum instead of an inactive that 'makes your scumdar go crazy'...he hasn't posted enough for us to ACTUALLY divine his alignment, let's give him that opportunity...or make him eat a bullet.


was this directed at me?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 20:05 GMT
#879
I think it was directed at hiro, as specified in the post.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 22 2011 20:08 GMT
#880
On August 23 2011 04:55 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone!


Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 23 2011 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:49 xtfftc wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:24 xtfftc wrote:
By the way, I have to apologise to supersoft - I just noticed that I didn't post in the voting thread, which was probably the reason he put me on his list (although it's still kind of sloppy).

So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further.


wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already?

I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills.


Scum-slip bolded! Scum-slip bolded! Self-admitted scum everyone!


God damn it you posted this before my analysis I WANTED TO BE FIRST


Mod kill = a kill made by a mod.
Mafia kill = a kill made by the mafia.
Town kill = a kill made by the town.


Or "two town kills" could be interpreted as Sevyrn (Town) killed by mod, mislynch of your choosing, killed by town with mafia influence (town).

It was mostly a joke. Mostly.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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