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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 11:48 GMT
#1049
Claiming Inquisitor

Night 1 check was supersoft who came back as guilty

I voted Mig because
a) Foolishness voted him, who is pretty much confirmed after night 1.
b) Because of these:

On August 22 2011 16:56 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 10:34 Mig wrote:
Meh did you guys see the post foolish quoted? This is rayzor's first ever game if he were mafia would he really put himself out there like that if he knew sevryn was green? Seems to be the opposite of how most new mafia players would play.

I am going to stick with sevryn.


...

I am not sure about mig... have to think about it.


On August 22 2011 17:42 supersoft wrote:
i am not convinced of that migthing now... He has been pretty useless so far and refused to do something at the end of day1. But I think it's too early to judge mig. I think we should talk about the result of the rayzoflash-incident first.

The common sense at the end of day1 - i am talking about the last 4 hours - was that sev is most likely innocent. However we didn't manage to achieve a new majority for a rayzorflashlynch.
Basically there are two possibilities now.
First possiblity is, that Rayzor is innocent and the scumteam didn't do anything to influence the outcome of the last 4 hours, because they just didn't care. They would have voted Rayzor and sev together with the town. If that would be the case, the reason why we couldn't swing the votecount is the inactivity in general.

But I don't believe that so many people just weren't here for no reason. I believe the scumteam stayed inactive because they wanted to protect rayzor. And there is the second possibility: Rayzor is scum.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. And i'd also like to hear some reasons for your inactivity @all the ppl who weren't there to vote.


On August 23 2011 04:15 supersoft wrote:
i just saw, mig already stacked 3 votes on him. Like I said earlier, I don't trust him etc. but for me it's too early to lynch him.


On August 23 2011 08:33 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 07:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
On August 23 2011 06:40 Foolishness wrote:
On August 23 2011 06:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro is acting like cocky-ass scum this game, and I think he's hiding behind his meta. He doesn't usually play like this when scum (he doesn't often play scum at all actually)...one of his only games I've played with him though he was the lurky lacky of Palmar, in the game he referenced at the BEGINNING of the game, establishing his meta. I don't like it. Hiro takes the lead of second-runner-ups-to-Palmar-on-my-scum-list.

Wait a minute, you said that me using meta in my arguments was pointless and (for the most part) rampant speculation. But now you're voting for Hiro based on meta?

WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD


We need to be careful.

I feel like there's enough disorganization that townies are making too many mistakes. We can't have red herrings fuck us in the ass from just having everyone be suspicious. Paranoia will make us unfocused, and that lets mafia win.

For now, I propose that we focus on 3 or fewer lynch targets. At the moment, I think xtfftc has the strongest case. After, I would say we can make pretty good cases for both Mig and nard.

Vain we can leave alone for now, we can't really build a case on him when he hasn't said anything to begin with. Once we hear some opinions from the players who currently aren't here I think we can get talking some more.


i totally agree with you. I was just about getting really paranoid. I don't understand the whole foolishness/mig/chaoser i know it's about meta etc. but why don't we just keep playing this out like usually.

We have a pretty solid case against xtfftc based on his vote-patterns and his refuse to commentate on other suspects.


Mig was up for lynch first so why the hell not.

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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 11:56 GMT
#1052
They are linked. supersoft has been defending him like crazy. xtffc or however you spell it is second in the votes. Who started that train? supersoft did. Also on it is wherebugsgo who I don't trust as far as I could throw.

There was already a bandwagon on Mig, led by the sole confirmed townie. I don't see the problem?
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 11:58 GMT
#1054
Hell if I can get people to lynch supersoft instead I'd be stoked but Mig is red as hell based on supersoft's actions.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 12:03 GMT
#1057
On August 23 2011 20:59 Curu wrote:
Townie does not = they are right. I think Foolishness is the most likely Townie in this game, that doesn't mean I'm going to sheep his opinion all day.

Why pick this time to claim DT? You had all of 1 vote on you.

More about the fact that you and Barundar unvoted him and now xtfsjdaksh leads the lynch.
Mig needs to die. And I'm not going to online at lynch time/

If you'd rather vote supersoft that's cool with me too.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 12:04 GMT
#1058
On August 23 2011 21:02 Mig wrote:
Well obviously you want supersoft lynched now? That has to be the reason you claimed? If you are so sure I am scum I don't understand why you claimed dt already instead of just arguing for my lynch.


Damn straight I want supersoft lynched. I would like you to die too though <3
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 12:22 GMT
#1063
SUPERSOFT

First caught my suspicions with this:

On August 19 2011 17:40 supersoft wrote:
ah well, it's not a big deal if everyone trolls at the beginning of the game. Also huge sum-up posts are not necessary... everyone should read the thread on his own.
We need 2 lynchcandidates and we should have them in about 12 hours. We get them by pressuring people and see who defends them etc. If we have one mafiaguy amongst them, we got this game, because mafia tends to be stupid and defends each other, while a townie will get beaten up by everyone if he acts suspicious by accident.

???? This is filler if I've ever seen it. It basically says
a) Noone needs to spam sumup posts
b) Declares that we need lynch candidates
c) We get them by playing the game
d) We might not get it right the first time.
Clap clap.

Then the "pressure vote" on me which included a bizarre pre-emptive defence of doing it. Why would he need to defend himself before anyone has attacked him yet?

On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?

##Vote DropBear


i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people.
Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad.

##Vote DropBear

and before anyone jumps on me like:
"wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do.
" I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum.

Why would you feel the need to do this? It defeats the purpose of a pressure vote. It shows a lack of confidence in what he is saying. Why is pointing out that what you are doing is going to be met with criticism of it being stupid? Why would you want to emphasise poor play from yourself if you are town?

More filler, a list of people who haven't voted yet.

The nail in the coffin was his reasoning for the Sevryn vote. He declares his feeling of Sevryn's innocence:

On August 20 2011 08:41 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 08:01 Curu wrote:
Wanna see worse scum logic? Town voting someone to sheep, then unvoting when called out for it cause he "doesn't want to get lynched."


hmm, sevryns behavior had something innocent in my eyes i don't know... Somehow I tend to buy that story...
I mean the whole thing started like that: Basic situation:
He knew Palmar from former games; and we all know that palmar played some good games for town recently - Palmar accuses DB; I jump on that wagon but declare it as a pressurevote. Varp shows up, says pressurevotes only work if you don't say it's a pressurevote (i 75% agree with that statement)
Now the poor sevryn sees all this: he also wants to contribute something by pressurevoting, so he fakes his reason and follows varps advice and gets caught immediately...
However that doesn't mean he's town.


yet he still ends up on sevryn because nard and xtfftc don't vote for him.
On August 21 2011 03:33 supersoft wrote:
perfect, xtfftc and nard both refuse to vote for sevryn and say they want to wait until he defends himself. There is no reason not to vote him until he defends himself. Not only does this behavior back up my doubts on your innocence. But it also changes my mind about sevryn.

Since noone is going to follow my vote on xtfftc who is my primetarget I am going to switch on sevryn.


I decided to check him and he came back guilty.

Perhaps Curu and Mig are right, he needs to die first. Then we can kill Mig :D
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 12:53 GMT
#1077
On August 23 2011 21:43 Kurumi wrote:
DB, didn't Foolishness claim RB? Unless supersoft flips RB You're fucked and You know it. But Supersoft might flip miller or regular goon(or anything else goes).

What? I don't understand what you are trying to say here?


On August 23 2011 21:49 Kurumi wrote:
@Vain
DB never said this in the thread. You and him need to die.

Yes it does. Read the OP again
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 15:20 GMT
#1144
alright alright im not a detective. Was trying to pull a chaoser. I should have left that sort of play to people who know what they are doing.

Guardian Angel - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Anfial, One of the 64 angel wardens of the celestial halls. You have been sent here to protect the citizens of liquidia and keep the cult from gaining access to the scourge. Your symbols are the needle and the ice, and every night you can choose to watch over a citizen, safeguarding them in their sleep with your sheild of frost and fury, keeping them safe from one KP. You walk about liquidia in human guise, pretending to be just another villager, although your eyes burn with the warth of God when you think of the cultists

I'm the medic who protected Foolishness. That's how I know he is confirmed town. I voted Mig entirely because Foolishness did. I am having real troubles working out who is who other than that.

I have no idea about Mig anymore and I'm not even sure about supersoft after his responses.

Sorry all.
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 15:31 GMT
#1152
On August 24 2011 00:27 Mig wrote:
Why would you ever do this as medic DB why? Were you trying to get the mafia to shoot you? Chaoser did it to draw shots because he was a vet.

Jesus

Yeah well you know from RTM that my judgement isn't always best T_T

Sorry for being a retard but we need to get back to business.

RayzorFlash and xtfftc?
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 15:36 GMT
#1155
On August 24 2011 00:33 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 00:31 DropBear wrote:
On August 24 2011 00:27 Mig wrote:
Why would you ever do this as medic DB why? Were you trying to get the mafia to shoot you? Chaoser did it to draw shots because he was a vet.

Jesus

Yeah well you know from RTM that my judgement isn't always best T_T

Sorry for being a retard but we need to get back to business.

RayzorFlash and xtfftc?


How about BrownBear?

The problem with your case against him is that initially it relied heavily on me being mafia, which I'm not. So I don't think it's a good idea.

Fuck it, I'd still like to lynch supersoft. If noone wants to join me after this I understand but he's my choice.
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 15:41 GMT
#1158
On August 24 2011 00:38 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 00:31 DropBear wrote:
On August 24 2011 00:27 Mig wrote:
Why would you ever do this as medic DB why? Were you trying to get the mafia to shoot you? Chaoser did it to draw shots because he was a vet.

Jesus

Yeah well you know from RTM that my judgement isn't always best T_T

Sorry for being a retard but we need to get back to business.

RayzorFlash and xtfftc?


Yeah, but why was the mindset of this?

get supersoft lynched? get mig lynched? get yourself lynched?

I'm just confused why you thought it was a good idea to claim, please elaborate because you could have just made a case against supersoft without being night target Number one

I was suss as hell on supersoft, he kept defending Mig, Foolishness was voting Mig, I know Foolishness was a good guy, people were starting to unvote Mig, Mig was starting to push me and not many people were disputing it.

I was getting pressure for my dodgy claim and I fold under pressure lol.

I'm done discussing this, I fucked things up enough already. Sorry everyone.

Let's get back to business people.
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 23 2011 16:09 GMT
#1164
Cos I'm an idiot. Can we drop it please. Forget it happened. Stop the derailment. Mafia will be laughin their arse off right now.

Get back to scumhunting. RayzorFlash you have disappeared.
##Vote RayzorFlash
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 24 2011 06:05 GMT
#1460
If there is another medic, don't protect me, protect foolishness instead
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
August 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#1577
Sorry everyone. I panicked when I came under fire. Good luck!
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 13:09:01
September 08 2011 13:03 GMT
#2399
Wp Mafia, sorry everyone about my day 2 silliness, especially to you supersoft.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 13:09:17
September 08 2011 13:05 GMT
#2400
Jeez Palmar you're starting to sound like Ace.

And I didn't like the majority lynch thing either. Thanks for hosting though Marsh
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