I'm so going to get you lynched next game no matter what.
Also I demand that observer / dead people QT
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Toadesstern
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I'm so going to get you lynched next game no matter what. Also I demand that observer / dead people QT | ||
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On January 24 2012 14:27 Slardar wrote: I CALLED IT! GEEEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Also Toad and Lanaia damn wrong BAM! Notes - Who was responsible for those amazing blue snipes? I want to hear this. yeah I really did not think they got nisani AND bum. I thought it's only one of them (or kenpachi) + opz and you were one of the few ones that wasn't clear townie That's what supersoft and I did while masoning: We still had not talked about some people so that's why there's white in there. I really thought it's opz + one yellow guy + one orange guy and didn't think it's glurio. | ||
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On January 24 2012 14:36 Slardar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 14:33 Toadesstern wrote: On January 24 2012 14:27 Slardar wrote: I CALLED IT! GEEEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Also Toad and Lanaia damn wrong BAM! Notes - Who was responsible for those amazing blue snipes? I want to hear this. yeah I really did not think they got nisani AND bum. I thought it's only one of them (or kenpachi) + opz and you were one of the few ones that wasn't clear townie That's what supersoft and I did while masoning: We still had not talked about some people so that's why there's white in there. I really thought it's opz + one yellow guy + one orange guy and didn't think it's glurio. Oh Ok, I thought other than the otherwise obvious tomfoolery the first day, I was trying to be pro-town. Although BC called it right in the chatlogs, I'm just a newb who ran for Mayor for fun. supersoft and I wanted to force you to claim tomorrow btw :p | ||
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On January 24 2012 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote: I caught opz and bum day 1 but then I tunneled Palmar too hard. And I kept forgetting bum. Man -_- ah well. Sorry guys for the lack of effort I had this game. I would have rather been playing in a mini game anyway and this might be the last game of this size I choose to play. I don't enjoy any games larger than 20 players anymore. GG to all! after all this you're not feeling like "hey sry toad"? Did you realy do that on purpose to troll me ? | ||
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On January 24 2012 14:49 Slardar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 14:42 Toadesstern wrote: On January 24 2012 14:36 Slardar wrote: On January 24 2012 14:33 Toadesstern wrote: On January 24 2012 14:27 Slardar wrote: I CALLED IT! GEEEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Also Toad and Lanaia damn wrong BAM! Notes - Who was responsible for those amazing blue snipes? I want to hear this. yeah I really did not think they got nisani AND bum. I thought it's only one of them (or kenpachi) + opz and you were one of the few ones that wasn't clear townie That's what supersoft and I did while masoning: We still had not talked about some people so that's why there's white in there. I really thought it's opz + one yellow guy + one orange guy and didn't think it's glurio. Oh Ok, I thought other than the otherwise obvious tomfoolery the first day, I was trying to be pro-town. Although BC called it right in the chatlogs, I'm just a newb who ran for Mayor for fun. supersoft and I wanted to force you to claim tomorrow btw :p Well what then..... probably no matter what I would have said you would have construed it as a scummy response, no? Hypothetically I would've just said I'd flip Green and it would be uneventful, or along those lines. If the BM lynch didn't go as planned and we didn't get the 2 scum modkills I would have been frantically trying to defend myself and just call out Townie, but now that 3 Mafia were left, the game was pretty much in the bag. kind of. SS said you're medic or mafia or weird. I said you're mafia or weird and okay'ed this medic thing SS was talking about. The thing that got us thinking you're mafia is because 1) you did a really strange campaign early on and kind of implied that you're not going to talk about your reads 2) you posted somewhere that you would like to lynch someone for information about BC. You're a new guy and we just didn't think a new guy would be lynching someone for information but instead take a look at how things are done the first few days and obsever. | ||
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On January 24 2012 15:04 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 14:59 ~OpZ~ wrote: On January 24 2012 14:55 wherebugsgo wrote: On January 24 2012 14:47 ~OpZ~ wrote: On January 24 2012 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote: I caught opz and bum day 1 but then I tunneled Palmar too hard. And I kept forgetting bum. Man -_- ah well. Sorry guys for the lack of effort I had this game. I would have rather been playing in a mini game anyway and this might be the last game of this size I choose to play. I don't enjoy any games larger than 20 players anymore. GG to all! I refuse to say you caught me. You just wouldn't go away. But I wasn't worried about you. No one in town listened to you, and I was your only "correct" read iirc Yep, no one listened because I was wrong about Palmar and I wasn't playing well. I realized that myself after Palmar flipped town that no one would care what I had to say. After that I just lost interest in the game and I kept saying I needed to read but I never read lol. But yes, I did catch you day 1. Toad I just trolled cause it was funny as hell and super never responded properly.. Be humble. You just had fail argument, and all you did was tunnel EVERYONE. I could of posted I was mafia in thread, you could of quoted me, and still everyone would of wrote you off as "this guy is tunneling opz some more" I just said no one was listening to me because I was wrong lol. I accept I played badly, I even admitted n1 no one was going to listen to me because I was wrong about Palmar. That's the misfortune of being a vocal player; if you're wrong once, no one ever listens to you again. That's why players like Foolishness are so good and renowned; they're rarely wrong the first time. I'm going to be more modest the next game but I was really raging mad because of you lol. When there was like 3 people attacking me d2 I stopped taking notes and only went by gutfeeling :p | ||
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On January 24 2012 15:06 Slardar wrote: After Foolishness posted I'd be easy to read, I sent him a PM asking if he knew me outside the game. (Didn't ask or talk about anything directly related to the game.) Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 14:56 Toadesstern wrote: On January 24 2012 14:49 Slardar wrote: On January 24 2012 14:42 Toadesstern wrote: On January 24 2012 14:36 Slardar wrote: On January 24 2012 14:33 Toadesstern wrote: On January 24 2012 14:27 Slardar wrote: I CALLED IT! GEEEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Also Toad and Lanaia damn wrong BAM! Notes - Who was responsible for those amazing blue snipes? I want to hear this. yeah I really did not think they got nisani AND bum. I thought it's only one of them (or kenpachi) + opz and you were one of the few ones that wasn't clear townie That's what supersoft and I did while masoning: We still had not talked about some people so that's why there's white in there. I really thought it's opz + one yellow guy + one orange guy and didn't think it's glurio. Oh Ok, I thought other than the otherwise obvious tomfoolery the first day, I was trying to be pro-town. Although BC called it right in the chatlogs, I'm just a newb who ran for Mayor for fun. supersoft and I wanted to force you to claim tomorrow btw :p Well what then..... probably no matter what I would have said you would have construed it as a scummy response, no? Hypothetically I would've just said I'd flip Green and it would be uneventful, or along those lines. If the BM lynch didn't go as planned and we didn't get the 2 scum modkills I would have been frantically trying to defend myself and just call out Townie, but now that 3 Mafia were left, the game was pretty much in the bag. kind of. SS said you're medic or mafia or weird. I said you're mafia or weird and okay'ed this medic thing SS was talking about. The thing that got us thinking you're mafia is because 1) you did a really strange campaign early on and kind of implied that you're not going to talk about your reads 2) you posted somewhere that you would like to lynch someone for information about BC. You're a new guy and we just didn't think a new guy would be lynching someone for information but instead take a look at how things are done the first few days and obsever. 1) Yeah, it was sort of a throwaway / have fun/ shot in the dark to see if it would catch any steam. The read part was a bit foolish, but since I was new I didn't want to throw out reads since I'm inexperienced, wanted to sit back and watch. I felt I'd probably be more of a detriment and add to the chaos if I was too active too early. 2) Yeah, I wanted to lynch ~OpZ~ because Sheth put a very decent read on the situation and it would have cleared BC at the time. (At least in my eyes). Relatively long after OpZ made a reasonable defense post, and Sheth passed away so I backed off from him. 3) I love how the analysis is I'm Scum, Mafia, or Weird not a Newb. LOL the hell with you two I'm always polite when talking about other people when they're not around, unlike supersoft. That's why I censored that part about lanaia lol | ||
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On January 24 2012 15:13 Protactinium wrote: Also, everyone who wanted to kill BC/Me/Foolishness after Day 2 -_- I never tried to kill BC, I only tried to get information from people and everyone tried to kill me because of that (and wbg had a hand in that as well) | ||
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On January 24 2012 15:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 14:24 Toadesstern wrote: Thx to wbg for making those noobs think I am a mafia without even giving a single reason why I should be mafia :p I'm so going to get you lynched next game no matter what. Also I demand that observer / dead people QT You did that to yourself with the continually mentioning perfect reads (which is actually impressive now that you've flipped) Yeah that mistake won't happen again. I'm just going to quote what I pm'ed wbg: Original Message From Toadesstern: yeah don't sweat it. Mostly I was mad because I thought my case on sandroba was good and everyone said it's bullshit. So that really was the reason I thought "well I'm going to prove them I'm not bullshit" which did not turn out that well :p I mean d1 everyone was like "well Toad is talking bullshit, that guy is bad or mafia" and d2 everyone was like "ok that guy is way too much right for a noob and points that out way too much" and I was just like + Show Spoiler + I really was pissed that I was being bitchslapped and felt the need to emphasize that I'm not doing bullshit :/ | ||
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TheMarshalPerson: jaj22 is scum Funny part about this is, that this is like his one and only post int that observer QT he did that had a read in it right? :p | ||
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I really was scared after seeing something like 5 modkills that I'm going to lose another game because of that but this time mafia got fucked as even more lol. | ||
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On January 25 2012 05:44 jaj22 wrote: @Hiro: That's tough. I don't think there was much real evidence against Sandroba except general post quality, as he was effectively playing solo and calling players as he saw them. I suppose you could have dug up his (town) Mini Mafia X game for comparison, as the distinction is striking. I still think his trolling is a sign for mafia beause imo he starts doing that a lot as mafia when he wants to say something and needs to conceil the fact that he basicly has nothing. I mean when he was asked to stop bullshitting around and explain his thought on cyri and why he thinks he's mafia he refused to do so and said "well because he's ugly and smells". I really think town sandroba would have posted a couple of lines to explain his thought, at least when directly asked, but apperently everyone else thought it's fine | ||
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On January 25 2012 06:39 Toadesstern wrote: Show nested quote + On January 25 2012 05:44 jaj22 wrote: @Hiro: That's tough. I don't think there was much real evidence against Sandroba except general post quality, as he was effectively playing solo and calling players as he saw them. I suppose you could have dug up his (town) Mini Mafia X game for comparison, as the distinction is striking. I still think his trolling is a sign for mafia beause imo he starts doing that a lot as mafia when he wants to say something and needs to conceil the fact that he basicly has nothing. I mean when he was asked to stop bullshitting around and explain his thought on cyri and why he thinks he's mafia he refused to do so and said "well because he's ugly and smells". I really think town sandroba would have posted a couple of lines to explain his thought, at least when directly asked, but apperently everyone else thought it's fine but then again, palmar was pretty much the same and only the fact that he tried that last game as town as well made me wonder :p So I guess I had a lucky day with my reads, could have been the other way around as well. | ||
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On January 25 2012 07:53 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Show nested quote + On January 25 2012 07:17 Ver wrote: On January 24 2012 13:51 bumatlarge wrote: Call me crazy, but this was the last post of a VETERAN PLAYER WHO HAPPENS TO BE A DETECTIVE. On January 22 2012 06:26 Protactinium wrote: On January 21 2012 17:33 Foolishness wrote: Mafia list has to be something like: Meapak, Munk-E, Bill Murray, evantrees, BrownBear, Kenpachi. Substitute in glurio, Opz, EchelonTee, vaderseven, Slardar for the ones that flip town. On January 21 2012 17:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Foolishness amend the list please. I strongly believe atm WBG has a high chance of flipping red. I would place glurio higher on your list. I also believe that based on play, opz is far more likely to be red. Disagree here. I don't see why Meapak is a strong case yet. I'm sticking with Bill Murray OpZ bumatlarge Don't see wbg either. His play fits his town play more than mafia even if he is wrong a lot. Then go on to inactives. I don't think Kenpachi is red based on L's statements suggesting that Kurumi shot Ciryandor. I'm going to guess that L truly did think Kurumi would shoot Kenpachi, and thus didn't roleblock him that night, but it backfired (nobody else claimed the Ciryandor shot). L also was pushing Kenpachi strangely, so it doesn't fit strongly in my book. evantrees feels town to me for his earlier response to my accusation. It feels pretty spontaneous and unplanned. Everyone else is fair game. Bill Murray dies tomorrow, and we vote for double lynch. OpZ and bumatlarge die the next day. gee i wonder if this should impact who i think is scum... Missed this earlier but pretty lol. After incog hands the town every mafia its killed and flips detective (even if he is noob dt), he gives a 3/3 mafia list and a bunch of innocents correctly and is immediately double shot afterwards. Instead of just listening to him, town proceeds to ignore it and focus on wild conspiracy theories while the mafia was trying to lynch its own players lol. Also Hiro your case was quite good. I think it could've been a little more convincing if you had used mafia 48 as additional evidence as well as a game where he was town. Something like pointing out the contrast between sandroba's day 1 and day 2 behavior in both games and showing the incongruence of his play as mafia versus how he plays as town. Basically the thing with cases is that most of the time you have to add in additional reinforcement to convince people that didn't factor in to you making your decision. But your posts were very pro town and I can't conceive how people thought you were suspicious. Probably would've been more optimal to just say cyber was town though and not give his role. That only helps the town. Only if he had said it from the get-go IMO. I figured he meant me about halfway through day 4, and knew he was going to reveal me as medic, I just wanted to see it come out correctly to be sure of him. I was tossing up whether to disagree with him, and push him for lynch before revealing day 5, or whether to full claim night 4 like I did, and then I realised mafia would know it was the truth. yeah but noone should have asked him about the 2nd check in the first place. He clearly was town after sandroba imo and everything else he posted was clearly pro-town so I don't know why people doubted hiro at all. | ||
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But that's just my opinion, we had more than enough information to get 90% of people confirmed townie | ||
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