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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 12 2011 02:27 GMT
#13
/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 09:25 GMT
#159
On August 12 2011 11:27 Palmar wrote:
/in


Why you ignore me
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 10:43 GMT
#164
On January 06 2012 18:25 flamewheel wrote:
Okay sorry.


♥
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 10:44 GMT
#165
oh fuck, this is a pm game.

Say goodbye to your lives for the next 2 weeks.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 10:50 GMT
#166
On January 06 2012 19:34 prplhz wrote:
what Cyber_Cheese said of all people here he knows best how spoofing can ruin the game for you

so if you are talking to somebody on irc or skype or whatever that you're not absolutely sure who is, tell them to throw you a PM on teamliquid

also, don't be a scammer.

i'd love if flamewheel could put something in the rules about it


additionally, I will be comparing hostnames on IRC with records from my logs, that's how we figured out when heist was being impersonated in swedish house mafia, and mafia conceded on day 1

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 11:10 GMT
#168
I'm voting yes because I hate my life! ♥
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 12:13 GMT
#173
On January 06 2012 20:40 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not using a webclient but yeah proxy might be working without authing at all but that's so much effort just to screw with palmar 8(


not that simply means I won't trust you. Anyone who has not been on IRC for the last 6 months or so gets automatically considered not trustworthy, you can't screw with me, cause the list of people/hosts I trust is already there.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 06 2012 13:56 GMT
#176
On January 06 2012 21:21 Toadesstern wrote:
You really have such a list? If that's the case you should have multiple hostnames under my name anyway :p
Now that I'm authed and got a q-hostname it should be something like 4 if you add that as well :p


I have logs, I can just grep your name out of them.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 09:34 GMT
#512
I have no intentions of running for mayor or caring much about the mayor elections. I'm probably going to be voting VisceraEyes, depending on how dumb he will be through the day.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 16:15 GMT
#570
On January 14 2012 00:53 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 00:51 igabod wrote:
I think that DT(s) should check people who ran for mayor, but didn't get the position. Vigilantes should probably save their hits untlil they are almost certain someone is scum.

How about no?


I concur with Poland
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 16:18 GMT
#572
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
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On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.


Hey I agree with this guy, so I'm voting him. I am very much a fan of killing Ciryandor.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 16:30 GMT
#578
sure looks to me like it is
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 16:32 GMT
#579
On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:
a) you are mafia and dont care about the game


Prove it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 16:35 GMT
#581
On January 14 2012 01:35 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 01:29 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 14 2012 00:53 kingjames01 wrote:
On January 14 2012 00:38 kitaman27 wrote:
KJ's bodyguards should claim plan is incredibly poor. So is Jackal's. Even if the scum team did subsititute all three bodyguards, they still have to worry about a electoral official being a vet, which would cost them 3 scum or that one of the bodyguards wasn't jailed, which would also cost them 3 scum.


First, there are only 2 Bodyguards.

Second, I agree with you about Jackal's comment about lynching a Bodyguard.

Third, you're actually agreeing with me in essence. I'm saying that if they sneak in a Bodyguard, it will be risky to take out the elected officials. However, to make it harder for them, they should be revealed from the beginning. What if both elected officials are killed and we have 0 clue as to who the Bodyguards were? Are you okay with that risk?

Finally, are you stating for the record that if you were elected, you would not reveal your Bodyguards?

And what is wrong with the threat of a lynch on a BG? If you don't think scum aren't going to try to sub in at least 1 of them as a BG you're being quite unrealistic. Just leave the threat of it out there.

We should not make Bodyguards claim.
Good to know that someone actually reads my posts Palmar, if You were given ability to kill someone right now, who would it be?


Ciryandor, for speculating about if sandroba or I were going for the mayor position.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 17:59 GMT
#621
On January 14 2012 01:44 Chaosquo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:
a) you are mafia and dont care about the game


Prove it.


I was just commenting on your playstyle. I was just following the meta on you (town=vocal, scum=lurking), but seeing as you were quite active as "scum" in resistance, I retract my statement. But still posting one-liners is not helping much, no?


Why do you retract? How do you know my "meta"?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 18:16 GMT
#627
On January 14 2012 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar, would you kindly answer the questions I've asked you? Your life could very well be on the line sir.


No, your questions are dumb.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 18:29 GMT
#630
Thanks for the summary
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 18:32 GMT
#632
On January 14 2012 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On January 14 2012 03:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar, would you kindly answer the questions I've asked you? Your life could very well be on the line sir.


No, your questions are dumb.


All right - consider lynching Palmar as part of my platform. If you elect me to office, I promise to lynch scumPalmar as my first act.


See, dumb and bad.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 18:37 GMT
#637
On January 14 2012 03:33 kitaman27 wrote:
Less spam please Palmar. It has gotten to the point of being disruptive. Would you address the concerns that a town Palmar would want to be elected and have control over the lynch?


Those concerns are dumb.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 13 2012 22:39 GMT
#783
On January 14 2012 07:17 Mattchew wrote:
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On January 14 2012 07:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This is an interesting conversation, you haven't convinced me but some good points have been brought up. What happens if a mason chooses not to claim when you all order them to? Do you lynch him the second he comes out on the policy of LaL? I just feel like this whole plan is very shortsighted.

And on that note I'd like to get back to the mayor/sheriff discussion. The last thing we want is to get completely sidetracked day 1. Bc's claim created good discussion and created a lot of material however we need to refocus and get done what needs to be done.

I still support BC to be my sheriff, however given that a lot of people are nervous of him because of his claim I'd like to remind people that Kita is my second choice. If you can't bring yourself to vote BC then vote kita. He's made some good points and he's probably best option behind bc.

I'd really like to hear from L right now. He's the only really good vet who hasn't checked in yet and I'd love to hear what he has to say about mayor.


who is you? (curiosity not accusatory)


Meapak is a baller. Doesn't mean he's town, but he's pretty good.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 10:46 GMT
#978
On January 14 2012 07:19 GGQ wrote:
By the way, Palmar should not be given a free pass to post badly on day 1 so that he won't be killed night 1. That's just silly logic.


Should kenpachi be?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 10:56 GMT
#983
On January 14 2012 19:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 19:46 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 07:19 GGQ wrote:
By the way, Palmar should not be given a free pass to post badly on day 1 so that he won't be killed night 1. That's just silly logic.


Should kenpachi be?

Palmar, you know you're playing bad, I know you're playing bad, WBG knows you're playing bad. Right now I think you were trying to see who jumped on you for your play. Gambit's over, it's time for you to be useful.

And the fact that you compare yourself to kenpachi should really indicate that you've taken this little game as far as it's gonna run. Tell us what you learned by doing what you did.


Who cares, why am scummy for not posting and other people aren't.

Explain it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 10:57 GMT
#984
Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 11:02 GMT
#989
On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote:
Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum.


I don't explain shit to scum


Of course not, if you did it might actually come apparent that you don't have a case.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 11:08 GMT
#992
On January 14 2012 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 20:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote:
Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum.


I don't explain shit to scum

Explain it to me then.


go read my filter

in one word, meta.


So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case?

Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 11:16 GMT
#994
Cause I feel like it Kurumi.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 11:18 GMT
#996
Day 1 has two goals, getting someone I want in office, and killing someone I want to kill. Incog and Ciryandor fit the bill, my work is done here.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 11:57 GMT
#1001
On January 14 2012 20:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 20:08 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote:
Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum.


I don't explain shit to scum

Explain it to me then.


go read my filter

in one word, meta.


So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case?

Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case?


if I'm wrong about you being scum right now it reflects more on how bad your play is right now than mine.

The fact that you are willing to try and guilt me into laying off you suggests you already know I'm town. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask whether I am willing to bet my abilities as a player on this case, since if I was scum I'd have no vested interest in something like that.

So, that just strengthens my case even more.

TL;DR, go die, scum.


No, because you don't have a case. My play is in no way, shape, or form bad. Take away the Palmar name, and you have someone you'd probably have a town read on. This means you're not reading the game objectively, and thus it's your play that's bad, not mine. If you remove meta from a case, it should still have some merit to it. Does yours?

The only possible way you're playing well right now, is if you're scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:00 GMT
#1213
I'm still giving my support to Protactinium, I have no problem with him killing BC if only for how stupid regardless of BC's alignment his claim is.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:05 GMT
#1217
Explain what in my play is scummy sandroba. Do it please.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:20 GMT
#1233
@Sheth: No, you don't look scummy for defending me, mafia knows my alignment, but you could also simply have come to the correct conclusion. My current read on you is null, or maybe slightly leaning town

There is no real benefit in the mason thing, as the role is almost completely irrelevant this game, seeing as both sides have access to it. There is no con other than discussion about it taking up space and thought power that can be put to better use. I've basically decided to ignore the claims. I do however find it weird people are claiming on day 1.

I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done.

I think Ciryandor may have screwed up in his very first post. Of all the things in that post what struck me as odd was the speculation if sandroba and I were going to run, just the way it was worded and in the context of his post, it feels like a very insecure statement.

I also think BC is a good lynch, because his claim is strictly bad. However, there also exists a scenario where BC believes he's doing something good, when he isn't, and it doesn't make him scum. I'm not sure.

Of other people I think VE should be treated as town if CC flips. As scum he'd have used his tunnel on me as an excuse to shoot me, I think. I'm on the fence about bugs. I think Refallen is very townie (or Cwave now). Meapak already looks like town. Kenpachi deserves a bullet, as usual.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:23 GMT
#1238
On January 15 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote:
I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done.


What I meant to say is "and I think the sooner we realize this is irrelevant, the sooner we can actually start getting something done".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:23 GMT
#1240
I also don't like sandroba at the moment.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:25 GMT
#1244
On January 15 2012 06:23 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Seriously guys this is all hands on deck. I'm very town and I'm very Jack. I need to be mayor.

VOTES ON VE GOGOGO

This isn't me trying to leverage my role to win the election - if I wanted to do that I would have done that already and not called BC out on it right after his claim. This is me trying to keep one of our most powerful roles IN THE GAME. I'm not going to do anymore stupid shit if you elect me.

I'll vote for you if you figure out a snazzy plan to confirm that you aren't bullshitting about your role.


His role is completely irrelevant... He's probably town just based on the effort and attitude he has.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:26 GMT
#1247
I'm off for a while, I'm tentatively voicing interest in getting VisceraEyes into a good position, even if he's terrible he's at least looking town.

It's nice to have townies in positions. I would actually like a Protact/VE combo in office.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 14 2012 21:31 GMT
#1250
On January 15 2012 06:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I herped HARD.


Business as usual.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 01:24 GMT
#1361
So, it's 1 am my time now.

WBG, I think you're town, however, you're playing terribly. You don't have a case on me, you've never written one up. If you remove meta from your case you're literally stuck with nothing.

I suggest we put visceraeyes and protactinium in the office. I would prefer a BC or Cyri lynch, maybe even sandroba.

Anyone who's town and voting for someone that intends to lynch me, needs to take a look at what they're doing, because I'm not the one playing badly, I've simply posted less than usual. There is nothing you have on me expect meta, thus the case is completely invalid, and when I flip town, you will have proven yourselves to be really dumb and bad.

It's one thing voting for a bad case, but voting for a non-existant one?

Anyway, make the right decision, nighty.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 03:07 GMT
#1435
On January 15 2012 12:00 supersoft wrote:
VOTE BC GUYS!!! ASAP!!!

inognito shouldn't be mayor!!! macpep or whatever his lynchtarget is called is a horrible kill.
Palmar is the one and only good case right now.


What's good about it (why am I awake at 3am?)
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#1459
For someone who argues constantly that meta is useless, that lynch is terrible bloodycobbler. I have repeatedly asked people to present accusations that aren't meta, and no one has provided any.

Thus it's strictly dumb to lynch me.... whatever.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 03:22 GMT
#1461
On January 15 2012 12:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 12:07 Palmar wrote:
On January 15 2012 12:00 supersoft wrote:
VOTE BC GUYS!!! ASAP!!!

inognito shouldn't be mayor!!! macpep or whatever his lynchtarget is called is a horrible kill.
Palmar is the one and only good case right now.


What's good about it (why am I awake at 3am?)


LOL AND HE SHOWS HIS FACE LOLOLOLOL



If you're town, you're now degraded to completely useless and terrible. But you're probably scum because no one is this bad.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 03:23 GMT
#1463
On January 15 2012 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 12:11 Ciryandor wrote:
On January 15 2012 12:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Sorry guys, the OP has the incorrect deadline and I was catching up on the thread thinking I would have more time. I'm around page 62, but I'm voting BM because he is the strongest town read I have at the moment of the post. I'll try to post when I finish reading.

Can the OP be updated with the correct deadline?


As for the comment on lynching, Proact, even if he has changed targets, at least is not being wishy-washy by giving a list of choices, he is at least committing to a specific person to lynch.


LOLLL

didn't think yoiu were scum before but I definitely think you are now


I thought he was scum, I wanted him lynched. Do you suddenly now that I've probably been lynched retract that dumbassery?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 03:25 GMT
#1466
On January 15 2012 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 12:21 Palmar wrote:
For someone who argues constantly that meta is useless, that lynch is terrible bloodycobbler. I have repeatedly asked people to present accusations that aren't meta, and no one has provided any.

Thus it's strictly dumb to lynch me.... whatever.


it was you or brownbear, he is up for a modkill. I already stated I would not choose protrac or foolishness before I went for work as to give them a day for their status.

Also, considering the entire case incog has built around me is more or less just meta and you were for him to off me, i could say the same to you.


No, I wanted to kill you because your claim was bad play, as I explained. It has nothing to do with meta, no amount of meta would make that claim good play.

@Town, kill this guy asap. At best he's destructive town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 03:29 GMT
#1473
On January 15 2012 12:27 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 12:22 Palmar wrote:
On January 15 2012 12:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 15 2012 12:07 Palmar wrote:
On January 15 2012 12:00 supersoft wrote:
VOTE BC GUYS!!! ASAP!!!

inognito shouldn't be mayor!!! macpep or whatever his lynchtarget is called is a horrible kill.
Palmar is the one and only good case right now.


What's good about it (why am I awake at 3am?)


LOL AND HE SHOWS HIS FACE LOLOLOLOL



If you're town, you're now degraded to completely useless and terrible. But you're probably scum because no one is this bad.


please palmar. Why don't you explain why VE is a good officecandidate in your eyes this game, rather than attacking the person who pointed your uncommon play out.


Just look at his posting in the game, he's been active, he's put himself out there, his dayvig failure seems genuine enough to me. The reason he's a good candidate is that he really looks like a townie. And apparently he's less terrible than wherebugsgo.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 03:29 GMT
#1475
On January 15 2012 12:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 12:27 Toadesstern wrote:
why are you awake at 3:30 am in the morning? I thought you don't care about the election?

that was directed towards palmar, sry


I'm watching Tim Tebow fail, it's hilarious.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 15 2012 04:19 GMT
#1491
GG
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2012 12:08 GMT
#4323
First of all, I played the way I did because I was really busy and didn't have stretches to play mafia and thus post longer and more elaborate posts. I consider actually saying I'm busy cheating, so I don't do that. Don't argue with me on this. I don't use any out-of-game resources when I play mafia.

My lynch was completely retarded. I mean, I guess I can relate to if BC really had no clue what he was doing, but it's just... bad.

@Wherebugsgo: I don't like the fact that you are trying to call me out for playing badly. I repeatedly asked you to present a case that wasn't meta, and I explained why your case was not valid.

In addition, I tried to get Protactinium into office who fingered Cyriandor, BloodyC0bbler and macpo. I also tried to get VisceraEyes into office. In addition I myself presented a case against Ciryandor and fingered sandroba and BloodyC0bbler.

I can't actually see how this is any way scum motivated.

The case was terrible, the decision to act on it was terrible.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2012 14:35 GMT
#4328
@Bugs: Even after explaining very clearly why you had no chance of being correct (see spoilered).

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On January 14 2012 20:57 Palmar wrote:
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On January 14 2012 20:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:08 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote:
Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum.


I don't explain shit to scum

Explain it to me then.


go read my filter

in one word, meta.


So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case?

Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case?


if I'm wrong about you being scum right now it reflects more on how bad your play is right now than mine.

The fact that you are willing to try and guilt me into laying off you suggests you already know I'm town. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask whether I am willing to bet my abilities as a player on this case, since if I was scum I'd have no vested interest in something like that.

So, that just strengthens my case even more.

TL;DR, go die, scum.


No, because you don't have a case. My play is in no way, shape, or form bad. Take away the Palmar name, and you have someone you'd probably have a town read on. This means you're not reading the game objectively, and thus it's your play that's bad, not mine. If you remove meta from a case, it should still have some merit to it. Does yours?

The only possible way you're playing well right now, is if you're scum.



And the fact that I provided some excellent analysis:

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On January 15 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote:
@Sheth: No, you don't look scummy for defending me, mafia knows my alignment, but you could also simply have come to the correct conclusion. My current read on you is null, or maybe slightly leaning town

There is no real benefit in the mason thing, as the role is almost completely irrelevant this game, seeing as both sides have access to it. There is no con other than discussion about it taking up space and thought power that can be put to better use. I've basically decided to ignore the claims. I do however find it weird people are claiming on day 1.

I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done.

I think Ciryandor may have screwed up in his very first post. Of all the things in that post what struck me as odd was the speculation if sandroba and I were going to run, just the way it was worded and in the context of his post, it feels like a very insecure statement.

I also think BC is a good lynch, because his claim is strictly bad. However, there also exists a scenario where BC believes he's doing something good, when he isn't, and it doesn't make him scum. I'm not sure.

Of other people I think VE should be treated as town if CC flips. As scum he'd have used his tunnel on me as an excuse to shoot me, I think. I'm on the fence about bugs. I think Refallen is very townie (or Cwave now). Meapak already looks like town. Kenpachi deserves a bullet, as usual.


And still you think it's my play that's bad?

Your scum play is excellent, but your town play is really lacking. Also, this is why mayor games suck. I would never have gotten majority lynched, because majority of people aren't stupid. BC didn't even announce he was lynching me until after he had been elected, although he hinted at it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 24 2012 15:55 GMT
#4338
On January 25 2012 00:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 24 2012 23:35 Palmar wrote:
@Bugs: Even after explaining very clearly why you had no chance of being correct (see spoilered).

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 14 2012 20:57 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 20:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:08 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote:
Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum.


I don't explain shit to scum

Explain it to me then.


go read my filter

in one word, meta.


So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case?

Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case?


if I'm wrong about you being scum right now it reflects more on how bad your play is right now than mine.

The fact that you are willing to try and guilt me into laying off you suggests you already know I'm town. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask whether I am willing to bet my abilities as a player on this case, since if I was scum I'd have no vested interest in something like that.

So, that just strengthens my case even more.

TL;DR, go die, scum.


No, because you don't have a case. My play is in no way, shape, or form bad. Take away the Palmar name, and you have someone you'd probably have a town read on. This means you're not reading the game objectively, and thus it's your play that's bad, not mine. If you remove meta from a case, it should still have some merit to it. Does yours?

The only possible way you're playing well right now, is if you're scum.



And the fact that I provided some excellent analysis:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote:
@Sheth: No, you don't look scummy for defending me, mafia knows my alignment, but you could also simply have come to the correct conclusion. My current read on you is null, or maybe slightly leaning town

There is no real benefit in the mason thing, as the role is almost completely irrelevant this game, seeing as both sides have access to it. There is no con other than discussion about it taking up space and thought power that can be put to better use. I've basically decided to ignore the claims. I do however find it weird people are claiming on day 1.

I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done.

I think Ciryandor may have screwed up in his very first post. Of all the things in that post what struck me as odd was the speculation if sandroba and I were going to run, just the way it was worded and in the context of his post, it feels like a very insecure statement.

I also think BC is a good lynch, because his claim is strictly bad. However, there also exists a scenario where BC believes he's doing something good, when he isn't, and it doesn't make him scum. I'm not sure.

Of other people I think VE should be treated as town if CC flips. As scum he'd have used his tunnel on me as an excuse to shoot me, I think. I'm on the fence about bugs. I think Refallen is very townie (or Cwave now). Meapak already looks like town. Kenpachi deserves a bullet, as usual.


And still you think it's my play that's bad?

Your scum play is excellent, but your town play is really lacking. Also, this is why mayor games suck. I would never have gotten majority lynched, because majority of people aren't stupid. BC didn't even announce he was lynching me until after he had been elected, although he hinted at it.


to repeat what I have said to a few people. Day 1 I got back from work 10ish minutes before the lynch and had to catch up on all the posts made from when i had left like 6 hours before or something like that. The heaviest push on you happened more or less as I left. As i was in a rush to avoid a modkill your name went down as up til I left you were pretty apathetic. Had i been able to fully catch up on the thread before the deadline I most likely wouldn't have picked you, doesn't really mean much now however lol


Yes, by your response I figured as much. It really did seem like you genuinely just went with an easy lynch since you didn't have time to actually scumhunt.

I mean, I don't care that much, it's actually a good opportunity for people to understand why meta is bad. It's bad play, and I'm certain that in hindsight you agree it was bad play, but I mean, we all fuck up. Me lynching YM in that huge-ass game wasn't much better, although I did provide a case, but that case just concluded he was being an asshole, which should have told me he's town, not the other way around.
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