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On August 12 2011 11:27 Palmar wrote: /in Why you ignore me | ||
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On January 06 2012 18:25 flamewheel wrote: Okay sorry. ♥ | ||
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Say goodbye to your lives for the next 2 weeks. | ||
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On January 06 2012 19:34 prplhz wrote: what Cyber_Cheese said of all people here he knows best how spoofing can ruin the game for you so if you are talking to somebody on irc or skype or whatever that you're not absolutely sure who is, tell them to throw you a PM on teamliquid also, don't be a scammer. i'd love if flamewheel could put something in the rules about it additionally, I will be comparing hostnames on IRC with records from my logs, that's how we figured out when heist was being impersonated in swedish house mafia, and mafia conceded on day 1 | ||
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On January 06 2012 20:40 Toadesstern wrote: I'm not using a webclient but yeah proxy might be working without authing at all but that's so much effort just to screw with palmar 8( not that simply means I won't trust you. Anyone who has not been on IRC for the last 6 months or so gets automatically considered not trustworthy, you can't screw with me, cause the list of people/hosts I trust is already there. | ||
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On January 06 2012 21:21 Toadesstern wrote: You really have such a list? If that's the case you should have multiple hostnames under my name anyway :p Now that I'm authed and got a q-hostname it should be something like 4 if you add that as well :p I have logs, I can just grep your name out of them. | ||
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I concur with Poland | ||
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On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote: I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign. Hey I agree with this guy, so I'm voting him. I am very much a fan of killing Ciryandor. | ||
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On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote: a) you are mafia and dont care about the game Prove it. | ||
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On January 14 2012 01:35 Kurumi wrote: We should not make Bodyguards claim. Good to know that someone actually reads my posts Palmar, if You were given ability to kill someone right now, who would it be? Ciryandor, for speculating about if sandroba or I were going for the mayor position. | ||
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On January 14 2012 01:44 Chaosquo wrote: I was just commenting on your playstyle. I was just following the meta on you (town=vocal, scum=lurking), but seeing as you were quite active as "scum" in resistance, I retract my statement. But still posting one-liners is not helping much, no? Why do you retract? How do you know my "meta"? | ||
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On January 14 2012 03:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmar, would you kindly answer the questions I've asked you? Your life could very well be on the line sir. No, your questions are dumb. | ||
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On January 14 2012 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote: All right - consider lynching Palmar as part of my platform. If you elect me to office, I promise to lynch scumPalmar as my first act. See, dumb and bad. | ||
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On January 14 2012 03:33 kitaman27 wrote: Less spam please Palmar. It has gotten to the point of being disruptive. Would you address the concerns that a town Palmar would want to be elected and have control over the lynch? Those concerns are dumb. | ||
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Meapak is a baller. Doesn't mean he's town, but he's pretty good. | ||
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On January 14 2012 07:19 GGQ wrote: By the way, Palmar should not be given a free pass to post badly on day 1 so that he won't be killed night 1. That's just silly logic. Should kenpachi be? | ||
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On January 14 2012 19:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Palmar, you know you're playing bad, I know you're playing bad, WBG knows you're playing bad. Right now I think you were trying to see who jumped on you for your play. Gambit's over, it's time for you to be useful. And the fact that you compare yourself to kenpachi should really indicate that you've taken this little game as far as it's gonna run. Tell us what you learned by doing what you did. Who cares, why am scummy for not posting and other people aren't. Explain it. | ||
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Of course not, if you did it might actually come apparent that you don't have a case. | ||
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So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case? Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case? | ||
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On January 14 2012 20:51 wherebugsgo wrote: if I'm wrong about you being scum right now it reflects more on how bad your play is right now than mine. The fact that you are willing to try and guilt me into laying off you suggests you already know I'm town. Otherwise, you wouldn't ask whether I am willing to bet my abilities as a player on this case, since if I was scum I'd have no vested interest in something like that. So, that just strengthens my case even more. TL;DR, go die, scum. No, because you don't have a case. My play is in no way, shape, or form bad. Take away the Palmar name, and you have someone you'd probably have a town read on. This means you're not reading the game objectively, and thus it's your play that's bad, not mine. If you remove meta from a case, it should still have some merit to it. Does yours? The only possible way you're playing well right now, is if you're scum. | ||
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There is no real benefit in the mason thing, as the role is almost completely irrelevant this game, seeing as both sides have access to it. There is no con other than discussion about it taking up space and thought power that can be put to better use. I've basically decided to ignore the claims. I do however find it weird people are claiming on day 1. I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done. I think Ciryandor may have screwed up in his very first post. Of all the things in that post what struck me as odd was the speculation if sandroba and I were going to run, just the way it was worded and in the context of his post, it feels like a very insecure statement. I also think BC is a good lynch, because his claim is strictly bad. However, there also exists a scenario where BC believes he's doing something good, when he isn't, and it doesn't make him scum. I'm not sure. Of other people I think VE should be treated as town if CC flips. As scum he'd have used his tunnel on me as an excuse to shoot me, I think. I'm on the fence about bugs. I think Refallen is very townie (or Cwave now). Meapak already looks like town. Kenpachi deserves a bullet, as usual. | ||
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On January 15 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote: I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done. What I meant to say is "and I think the sooner we realize this is irrelevant, the sooner we can actually start getting something done". | ||
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On January 15 2012 06:23 L wrote: I'll vote for you if you figure out a snazzy plan to confirm that you aren't bullshitting about your role. His role is completely irrelevant... He's probably town just based on the effort and attitude he has. | ||
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It's nice to have townies in positions. I would actually like a Protact/VE combo in office. | ||
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On January 15 2012 06:27 VisceraEyes wrote: I herped HARD. Business as usual. | ||
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WBG, I think you're town, however, you're playing terribly. You don't have a case on me, you've never written one up. If you remove meta from your case you're literally stuck with nothing. I suggest we put visceraeyes and protactinium in the office. I would prefer a BC or Cyri lynch, maybe even sandroba. Anyone who's town and voting for someone that intends to lynch me, needs to take a look at what they're doing, because I'm not the one playing badly, I've simply posted less than usual. There is nothing you have on me expect meta, thus the case is completely invalid, and when I flip town, you will have proven yourselves to be really dumb and bad. It's one thing voting for a bad case, but voting for a non-existant one? Anyway, make the right decision, nighty. | ||
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On January 15 2012 12:00 supersoft wrote: VOTE BC GUYS!!! ASAP!!! inognito shouldn't be mayor!!! macpep or whatever his lynchtarget is called is a horrible kill. Palmar is the one and only good case right now. What's good about it (why am I awake at 3am?) | ||
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Thus it's strictly dumb to lynch me.... whatever. | ||
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If you're town, you're now degraded to completely useless and terrible. But you're probably scum because no one is this bad. | ||
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On January 15 2012 12:22 wherebugsgo wrote: LOLLL didn't think yoiu were scum before but I definitely think you are now I thought he was scum, I wanted him lynched. Do you suddenly now that I've probably been lynched retract that dumbassery? | ||
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On January 15 2012 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: it was you or brownbear, he is up for a modkill. I already stated I would not choose protrac or foolishness before I went for work as to give them a day for their status. Also, considering the entire case incog has built around me is more or less just meta and you were for him to off me, i could say the same to you. No, I wanted to kill you because your claim was bad play, as I explained. It has nothing to do with meta, no amount of meta would make that claim good play. @Town, kill this guy asap. At best he's destructive town. | ||
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On January 15 2012 12:27 supersoft wrote: please palmar. Why don't you explain why VE is a good officecandidate in your eyes this game, rather than attacking the person who pointed your uncommon play out. Just look at his posting in the game, he's been active, he's put himself out there, his dayvig failure seems genuine enough to me. The reason he's a good candidate is that he really looks like a townie. And apparently he's less terrible than wherebugsgo. | ||
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I'm watching Tim Tebow fail, it's hilarious. | ||
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My lynch was completely retarded. I mean, I guess I can relate to if BC really had no clue what he was doing, but it's just... bad. @Wherebugsgo: I don't like the fact that you are trying to call me out for playing badly. I repeatedly asked you to present a case that wasn't meta, and I explained why your case was not valid. In addition, I tried to get Protactinium into office who fingered Cyriandor, BloodyC0bbler and macpo. I also tried to get VisceraEyes into office. In addition I myself presented a case against Ciryandor and fingered sandroba and BloodyC0bbler. I can't actually see how this is any way scum motivated. The case was terrible, the decision to act on it was terrible. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 14 2012 20:57 Palmar wrote: No, because you don't have a case. My play is in no way, shape, or form bad. Take away the Palmar name, and you have someone you'd probably have a town read on. This means you're not reading the game objectively, and thus it's your play that's bad, not mine. If you remove meta from a case, it should still have some merit to it. Does yours? The only possible way you're playing well right now, is if you're scum. And the fact that I provided some excellent analysis: + Show Spoiler + On January 15 2012 06:20 Palmar wrote: @Sheth: No, you don't look scummy for defending me, mafia knows my alignment, but you could also simply have come to the correct conclusion. My current read on you is null, or maybe slightly leaning town There is no real benefit in the mason thing, as the role is almost completely irrelevant this game, seeing as both sides have access to it. There is no con other than discussion about it taking up space and thought power that can be put to better use. I've basically decided to ignore the claims. I do however find it weird people are claiming on day 1. I think this game is infested with masons and jacks, and I think the sooner we realize this, the sooner we can actually start getting something done. I think Ciryandor may have screwed up in his very first post. Of all the things in that post what struck me as odd was the speculation if sandroba and I were going to run, just the way it was worded and in the context of his post, it feels like a very insecure statement. I also think BC is a good lynch, because his claim is strictly bad. However, there also exists a scenario where BC believes he's doing something good, when he isn't, and it doesn't make him scum. I'm not sure. Of other people I think VE should be treated as town if CC flips. As scum he'd have used his tunnel on me as an excuse to shoot me, I think. I'm on the fence about bugs. I think Refallen is very townie (or Cwave now). Meapak already looks like town. Kenpachi deserves a bullet, as usual. And still you think it's my play that's bad? Your scum play is excellent, but your town play is really lacking. Also, this is why mayor games suck. I would never have gotten majority lynched, because majority of people aren't stupid. BC didn't even announce he was lynching me until after he had been elected, although he hinted at it. | ||
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On January 25 2012 00:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: to repeat what I have said to a few people. Day 1 I got back from work 10ish minutes before the lynch and had to catch up on all the posts made from when i had left like 6 hours before or something like that. The heaviest push on you happened more or less as I left. As i was in a rush to avoid a modkill your name went down as up til I left you were pretty apathetic. Had i been able to fully catch up on the thread before the deadline I most likely wouldn't have picked you, doesn't really mean much now however lol Yes, by your response I figured as much. It really did seem like you genuinely just went with an easy lynch since you didn't have time to actually scumhunt. I mean, I don't care that much, it's actually a good opportunity for people to understand why meta is bad. It's bad play, and I'm certain that in hindsight you agree it was bad play, but I mean, we all fuck up. Me lynching YM in that huge-ass game wasn't much better, although I did provide a case, but that case just concluded he was being an asshole, which should have told me he's town, not the other way around. | ||
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