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On August 12 2011 11:11 flamewheel wrote: Going to ignore all the /in's and make you guys sign up again when it comes time though because I'm OCD ~_~
Is this still in effect?
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On January 10 2012 18:47 supersoft wrote: Can we start?
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Lets get rid of that hydra and start nao?
Go on, do it.
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Probably a safe bet.
Nice one Cheese, off to a good start already
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Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.
So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.
So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?
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This hasn't been mentioned yet and I think it deserves to be:
[B]On August 12 2011 06:20 flamewheel wrote: Bodyguard You protect the elected roles. After the election concludes, two Bodyguards are randomly chosen from amongst the pool of Townies. Before Townies are randomly selected as bodyguards though, Mafia may elect to substitute any of their members in for Bodyguards. That means there may be 0, 1, or 2 Mafia acting as Bodyguards instead of townspeople. The town will not know who is selected as bodyguards, but the elected roles will. As long as you (the bodyguards) remain alive, elected roles cannot be killed during the night. However, Mafia bodyguards do not protect town-aligned elected roles! This means that if there are no town-aligned bodyguards left, town-aligned elected roles are in danger of death during the night phase. Town-aligned bodyguards chosen from the pool of Townies will show up as Bodyguards to role checks, and Mafia-aligned bodyguards will show up as Bodyguards regardless of any other powers they might possess.
Electing our best scum hunters so they can use the bodyguards as shields is just inviting the scum to wipe out both of our elected officials after they replace our bodyguards with their own. If they kill both officials on night 1, we'll never know who the scummy bodyguards were and we'll be down 2 of our best scum hunters and both of our elected roles.
Id prefer if our best scum hunters didn't run for election, and left their protection in the hands of the sheriff/medic.
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The officials do, sure. But if they're dead, how will they tell us who the bodyguards were that failed to protect them?
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I feel like I'm drowning in a sea of bullshit whenever I open this thread.
On the Palmar situation:
Well, hes all but declared "I'm a kite!" again. I really wanted to play with the Palmar that was ElectricBlack in Student Mafia, rather than the Palmar that derps about, waiting for someone to bump him off ala Purgatory. If ElectricBlack is in there somewhere, start doing your thing, otherwise I'm siding with WBG on this and you'd make a fine lynch. If you truly are town, can you not see how your 'derping' is actually hurting town? We are wasting time right now discussing you, when we should be hunting scum targets that aren't posting 1 liner insults.
On BC:
Jesus, piles and piles of WIFOM. 'If hes scum, he wouldn't claim mason so fast or at all'. I'm just going to stop everyone saying this shit right here. BC is touted as one of the best scum players in this community, discounting ANYTHING because it may not be 'optimal' is short-sighted and naive. I don't support the idea of a mass claim of masons, it just narrows the pool of people the scum are shooting into to knock off blues with more useful powers (yes their usefulness is open to debate, whatever, another time and place).
On the mayoral election:
I am going to vote for our mayor much like how I vote in federal elections, to pick the candidate I hate the least. Right now the only person running for mayor that I have seen do any analysis at all is Protactinium. Leading by example is the best kind of leadership, and I want him in charge of our town. Therefore:
##Vote Protactinium
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EchelonTee: ”Adam, I’m curious if you are still for cheese” I missed this line because of the whole “–town” debacle that occurred right after it. And the answer is… No, I've since put my vote on Protactinium. I don’t trust cheese since a large portion of his posts have been shitty. He can change my mind by doing some great analysis though.
GGQ: You’ve had some experience playing with Palmar, should we hang him based on his meta of being obstructive and lazy as scum?
Jackal58: In your last post, you agreed with Nisani201 that lynching Palmar based off of meta alone is a stupid idea. Do you feel that Palmar should warrant a ‘stay of execution’ until day 2 so we can better determine his alignment?
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Thats OK, I didn't ask you for an overly large and word for word perfect post.
Just some analysis. Great analysis would be a plus.
Keep getting your thoughts out there though, it'll help me make up my mind on your alignment.
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Ah, OK.
I assumed "Good enough for me", was your way of saying "OK, you make a good argument", when instead you meant "A meta case is 'good enough for me' to lynch him with". My mistake.
While you're around, who do you like for Mayor? I have an idea which way you might go ()
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Filter problems: -glurio’s filter is linked to D3’s. -Jackals filter is linked to glurio’s.
Palmars lynch/WBG, is WBG scummy? - Im disappointed that Palmar was yet again made a focus of discussion on day 1, but he was right, there was almost 10 people doing far less then him (incoming modkills), yet he gets flack for it, based solely on his name (meta). - As far as the WBG situation, I can see it going either way, right now he’s null to me but I cant fault him for wanting more out of Palmar, I did too.
Palmars lynch/BC choosing him, did you agree with this? -Nope, should have followed his read and hung protactinium. Not that I think Prot is scum, I don’t, otherwise I wouldn’t have voted for him, but if BC is going to be swayed by the loudest voice in the mob, he may as well have just stepped down and let someone else win. I wanted someone who was confident in his reads, not making compromises with his suspicious mason buddy.
BM/BC being the elected pair? -Well, I didn’t vote for either of them. Right now I like Bill Murray a whole lot more then I like BC. He’s posting, maintaining a good thread presence, contributing in the discussion. BC’s rash Palmar lynch, which seemingly came out of the blue, has me concerned that it went to the wrong place.
Who would you look into lynching next and why? -Right now, I think VE is doing a good job of causing chaos and being a general distraction. I wouldn’t be adverse to him dying, regardless of his retardo jack claim. Palmar thought Ciryandor was scum, and now that we know it was coming from town Palmar, I give it weight. -I want to see what information our modkills bring, plus the nightkills. I am hoping maybe one or two scum get flipped in the modkills or vig fire, then I can start looking for associations. -I’m surprised Erandorr didn’t come under fire for his meta of refusing to play scum, and posting nil this game. I’ll be watching his replacement like a hawk.
Double Lynch tomorrow? -Im all for a double lynch tomorrow. Less people shitting up this thread is good because I’m spending 3 hours catching up on this thread after I wake up, then a further couple of hours reading filters (/whine). On a more useful note, increasing our KP is a good idea. I find Jacks and Vigs far less reliable and am much more in favour of democratic scum killing then “I DON’T LIKE WHAT YOURE SAYING, ILL BLOW YOUR FACE OFF CHEESE” kind of ‘scum’ killing.
On another note: -I asked GGQ a question, never got an answer. I can only assume he’s read it. His last post said “I’ve only read up to page 57”, and my question was on page 50. Id have really preferred the answer before Palmar was lynched. He’s ended up on Foolishes watch list, and his last post is defending someone on Foolishes scum list, so Ill be keeping an eye on this one for sure.
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Hey Hiro, happy birthday!
I enjoyed reading your play in Mini Mafia X, but since I think you're probably mafia (thanks to Erandorr), no hard feelings if i try to get you killed.
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Nice list there Bill Murray, I find myself agreeing with most of it.
Any reason why: 1.kingjames01 9.Kenpachi fail to earn a place?
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These: VisceraEyes Ciryandor BloodyC0bbler Protactinium L WBG
Ive covered most of the reasons why in my last post. L id just really like to see more of before he gets a 'townie' brand, since hes got a reputation as a great scum player.
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Thanks.
To be honest I combed your filter for close to 45 minutes trying to figure you out. Your excessive attention towards EchelonTee had me wondering if you were trying to exaggerate something small into something huge. Nothing jumped out at me though.
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On January 15 2012 23:01 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 22:55 Adam4167 wrote: Thanks.
To be honest I combed your filter for close to 45 minutes trying to figure you out. Your excessive attention towards EchelonTee had me wondering if you were trying to exaggerate something small into something huge. Nothing jumped out at me though. I didn't really have an excessive attitude against him. I just pushed for an explanation (which I still didn't really got) in order to figure him out. He didn't post at that time. Recently, he posted a little more and I said in my last post that he starts making sense and this actually might have been an error. The only one I was really aggressive towards was BC. Which is why I voted for the hydra.
Yeah. I can tell you that scum EchelonTee is just a tunneling machine. Your attention towards him would have probably got you back a 3 page analysis of why you were scum, if he was actually scum.
Anyway, time for bed. Hopefully this thread hasn't ballooned another 50 pages by the time I wake up.
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Can we please stop with this mason shit?!
Why don't you all devote your time to something useful, like for instance, answer bugs questions/queries at the top of this page. Go back to page 77 and answer the questions cheese put forward.
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His giant post was under the name Incognito, it came with 6 reads.
Double lynch seems like a great idea to me. Theres a fair amount of overlap between BC and Incognito's reads, so may as well get to some hangin'
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On January 16 2012 12:58 Adam4167 wrote: His giant post was under the name Incognito, it came with 6 reads.
Double lynch seems like a great idea to me. Theres a fair amount of overlap between BC and Incognito's reads, so may as well get to some hangin'
Hmm, I seem to have read a post from someone else and thought it came from BC. Right, no overlap. Still think that double lynch is a good idea though.
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OK, I just arrived in Melbourne after a 12 hour drive for a funeral, so my appearances in the thread will be spotty... but I'm still committed to this damn game.
BM... what the shit man? -You say Foolishness is one of your strongest town reads -He even makes it into the 'townie' zone of your big list of names -You even go as far as to say you wanted Foolishness in the mayor position -Everyone acknowledges that town Foolishness is a WMD, especially post day 2
Annnd then you choose to incarcerate Lanaia on night 1.. who you labelled as scum? Don't feed us that crap about trying to lower scum KP on the first night, i aint buying it Why the hell wouldn't you have incarcerated foolishness?
Something here does not compute for me.
And you still haven't answered the question I asked you earlier.
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On January 17 2012 19:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:after Sephirotharg in Wiggles mini mafia, I would prefer Chaosquo over Macpo, but I'm willing to swap I suppose.
Oh come on, that was fun ^^
Lets consolidate on Macpo for now, deal with Chaosquo at a later date.
##Vote: Macpo
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There are differences between seph and macpo though:
Seph wasn't apologetic off the bat, never pleaded not to be lynched either. Macpo actually does looks like Misder in Vers analysis (the argument I used to get the bandwagon going on seph).
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So cheese, while you're around:
-You still think VE is scum? or just a townie that did dumb shit? -What are your thoughts on Kenpachi and kingjames? -Finally, what are your thoughts on me and Ech?
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 18 2012 05:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Adam4167 (Filter link)Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 19:41 Adam4167 wrote:This hasn't been mentioned yet and I think it deserves to be: On August 12 2011 06:20 flamewheel wrote: Bodyguard You protect the elected roles. After the election concludes, two Bodyguards are randomly chosen from amongst the pool of Townies. Before Townies are randomly selected as bodyguards though, Mafia may elect to substitute any of their members in for Bodyguards. That means there may be 0, 1, or 2 Mafia acting as Bodyguards instead of townspeople. The town will not know who is selected as bodyguards, but the elected roles will. As long as you (the bodyguards) remain alive, elected roles cannot be killed during the night. However, Mafia bodyguards do not protect town-aligned elected roles! This means that if there are no town-aligned bodyguards left, town-aligned elected roles are in danger of death during the night phase. Town-aligned bodyguards chosen from the pool of Townies will show up as Bodyguards to role checks, and Mafia-aligned bodyguards will show up as Bodyguards regardless of any other powers they might possess.
Electing our best scum hunters so they can use the bodyguards as shields is just inviting the scum to wipe out both of our elected officials after they replace our bodyguards with their own. If they kill both officials on night 1, we'll never know who the scummy bodyguards were and we'll be down 2 of our best scum hunters and both of our elected roles. Id prefer if our best scum hunters didn't run for election, and left their protection in the hands of the sheriff/medic. Nobody picked up on this. Not sure why it never garnered more discussion. It's fear mongering, to try and not protect the best scum-hunters what? There were, and still are, a ton of options for dealing with this, which could leave town with trading 2 for 2 if both are replaced. There seems to be a huge lack of content. This is his best post to date: + Show Spoiler +On January 15 2012 20:01 Adam4167 wrote: Filter problems: -glurio’s filter is linked to D3’s. -Jackals filter is linked to glurio’s.
Palmars lynch/WBG, is WBG scummy? - Im disappointed that Palmar was yet again made a focus of discussion on day 1, but he was right, there was almost 10 people doing far less then him (incoming modkills), yet he gets flack for it, based solely on his name (meta). - As far as the WBG situation, I can see it going either way, right now he’s null to me but I cant fault him for wanting more out of Palmar, I did too.
Palmars lynch/BC choosing him, did you agree with this? -Nope, should have followed his read and hung protactinium. Not that I think Prot is scum, I don’t, otherwise I wouldn’t have voted for him, but if BC is going to be swayed by the loudest voice in the mob, he may as well have just stepped down and let someone else win. I wanted someone who was confident in his reads, not making compromises with his suspicious mason buddy.
BM/BC being the elected pair? -Well, I didn’t vote for either of them. Right now I like Bill Murray a whole lot more then I like BC. He’s posting, maintaining a good thread presence, contributing in the discussion. BC’s rash Palmar lynch, which seemingly came out of the blue, has me concerned that it went to the wrong place.
Who would you look into lynching next and why? -Right now, I think VE is doing a good job of causing chaos and being a general distraction. I wouldn’t be adverse to him dying, regardless of his retardo jack claim. Palmar thought Ciryandor was scum, and now that we know it was coming from town Palmar, I give it weight. -I want to see what information our modkills bring, plus the nightkills. I am hoping maybe one or two scum get flipped in the modkills or vig fire, then I can start looking for associations. -I’m surprised Erandorr didn’t come under fire for his meta of refusing to play scum, and posting nil this game. I’ll be watching his replacement like a hawk.
Double Lynch tomorrow? -Im all for a double lynch tomorrow. Less people shitting up this thread is good because I’m spending 3 hours catching up on this thread after I wake up, then a further couple of hours reading filters (/whine). On a more useful note, increasing our KP is a good idea. I find Jacks and Vigs far less reliable and am much more in favour of democratic scum killing then “I DON’T LIKE WHAT YOURE SAYING, ILL BLOW YOUR FACE OFF CHEESE” kind of ‘scum’ killing.
On another note: -I asked GGQ a question, never got an answer. I can only assume he’s read it. His last post said “I’ve only read up to page 57”, and my question was on page 50. Id have really preferred the answer before Palmar was lynched. He’s ended up on Foolishes watch list, and his last post is defending someone on Foolishes scum list, so Ill be keeping an eye on this one for sure.
But it only spawned because I specifically asked him about it. Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 20:22 Adam4167 wrote: So cheese, while you're around:
-You still think VE is scum? or just a townie that did dumb shit? -What are your thoughts on Kenpachi and kingjames? -Finally, what are your thoughts on me and Ech? Why do you want my opinion on you? If we were both town, How would that help us in any way shape or form? It seems like an 'Am I hiding well?' type question. Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:45 Adam4167 wrote:On January 17 2012 19:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:after Sephirotharg in Wiggles mini mafia, I would prefer Chaosquo over Macpo, but I'm willing to swap I suppose. Oh come on, that was fun ^^ Lets consolidate on Macpo for now, deal with Chaosquo at a later date. ##Vote: Macpo Shutting down discussion on candidates other than Macpo? My vote is definitely not necessary if we want Macpo lynched.
Nice case there cheese /rolleyes
That first post you’ve quoted is not fearmongering. That was a strategy discussion and I brought it up to potentially thwart scum knocking off both of our elected officials and some of our best scum hunters.
Yes, my filter is lacking, I acknowledge that right here link my friend died in a car accident on the weekend. The only reason I haven’t asked for a replacement is because I know there aren’t any, with close to 10 people getting modkilled.
You said it yourself “If we were both town”. I don’t know if you’re town, I’m really doubting it now though.
I do find your case on me interesting however, not once do you call me scum. You try to cast doubt on me and construe things in a way that make them look worse then they are. Are you trying to see if your case takes off before you finally come out and say it?
Lets see how you answered that post where I asked you about myself and ech: -VE could be town or scum. Thanks for that one Sherlock. -Null on Kenpachi -Null to weak town on kingjames -Null on Echelon -Null on me
Are you even trying?
On January 18 2012 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote: Oh kill that Adam guy too, he's been saying weird shit for days.
Bugs, you want me dead because you think I’m saying ‘weird shit’? I’m here to kill scum, not people who say stuff I don’t agree with.
Are you?
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On January 18 2012 15:27 vaderseven wrote: Hey guys. I am replacing zeks. I was not following the thread before today but I do pledge tto have read the entire thread by Thursday.
What does everyone find to be most important event or two most important? I want kany of you to answer. Convince me of what you see as important as something I should focus on.
I promise not to repeat the failures of my last game. I'm Just Breaking the ice here with this post and those that do as I asked will really help to transition ke from outsider to insider in this game. Of All the days to skip, at least I missed day 1 (i hate day 1). In Exchange for this, I have to enter day 3 with nothing lol.
Hey coach =)
Not gonna sugar coat it, day one was a mess.
-A dozen mayoral campaigns -BC claiming mason then being elected mayor -Foolishness campaigning for two other people to be mayor... -VE trying to follow in your footsteps and dayvig someone (except this game has no dayvig) -Bugs tunneling Palmar
Enjoy!
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On January 24 2012 14:26 : I'd like proper idea given to my idea. We get Prot and BC elected. Sub two BG's in. BC is masoned with Sandroba and me, so even if he tells anyone the BG's as long as they dont get posted in the thread through the night we'll be good. As day approaches, we check, make sure of that, sub our two BG's, and then hit both BC and Prot. Neither would have med protection because the med would think he has BG protection, or the opportunity to post the BG's in thread AND we kill two highly experienced players. and possibly double stack Foolishness.
I think killing BC, Protact, and Foolishness night one is worth it. Especially if their isn't even a risk for it.
I KNEW IT.
I knew that shit was coming and I get called a fearmonger for bringing it up.
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On January 24 2012 14:33 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 14:27 Adam4167 wrote:On January 24 2012 14:26 : I'd like proper idea given to my idea. We get Prot and BC elected. Sub two BG's in. BC is masoned with Sandroba and me, so even if he tells anyone the BG's as long as they dont get posted in the thread through the night we'll be good. As day approaches, we check, make sure of that, sub our two BG's, and then hit both BC and Prot. Neither would have med protection because the med would think he has BG protection, or the opportunity to post the BG's in thread AND we kill two highly experienced players. and possibly double stack Foolishness.
I think killing BC, Protact, and Foolishness night one is worth it. Especially if their isn't even a risk for it. I KNEW IT. I knew that shit was coming and I get called a fearmonger for bringing it up. I wanted to do this so bad..it was my idea. I was willing to be a mafia BG, and I would of said to put Ciryandor up to, because his posts in thread had me face palming and I knew he'd be the first of us to go. So honestly BC, I don't think it'd be a bad exchange. and when did you get pmd your BG list?
I wanted to do it so bad as well, I was just slightly handicapped by rolling the wrong side.
I even wrote up a post pre-game, volunteering to sub in as a BG, then to my dismay, I get town.
2 new-ish scum as a trade for both elected positions, 2 quality scumhunters and if either of them happened to be blue is a trade I was happy with!
It sucked that real life got in the way of me really getting into this game, but these things happen.
Still don't know why cheese was focusing on me so much O.o
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On January 25 2012 08:04 hiro protagonist wrote: Have we played in a game together before jaj22? where you the one that said earlier that you enjoyed my play in MiniMafia X? I remember thinking that ether you were making fun of me or you did not read that game closely because I played teribad that game haha
nice reads from you this game btw
No, that was me
Your play wasnt as bad as the scum team made it out to be.
Only reason I even suspected you was because of Erandorr and his meta (which is proving to be inaccurate anyway, last 2 games hes gone totally missing as town).
Echelon, I knew you weren't scum this game. I think you said it best last game: "I'm going to be a little lost when I roll town without teammates to help me". Your play fit the bill, but I wouldn't take much away from being lost in this choas, it was a mess.
BM, you still never answered my question on page 78... Were you trying to breadcrumb those two names as your bodyguards as i suspected? By that point I was already heavily suspicious of you, if you acknowledged that question in any form, I was viging kingjames that night, and after he flipped non-BG, I was coming after you.
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Not gonna lie to you, I considered blowing your brains out for that mason plan
Cant imagine why the scum did it though, probably blue hunting. I can only assume that's why I was shot, that and everyone minus bugs and cheese declaring how town I looked with my whopping 5 posts.
Edit: After a little bit of thought, id say they were hunting mayoral campaigners who were seeking protection of bodyguards, since they were blue. Im still impressed that Kita wasn't dead first night, that was a huge save.
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