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There's too many scum to take the risk of just letting someone slide by. | ||
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Also Toad apparently makes a living off of pointing out how many times I'm wrong. It's cute. | ||
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##vote Bill Murray | ||
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On January 19 2012 13:10 Scamp wrote: You're welcome. Now stop playing like WBG and gain a little context for what you say. The quote from Sheth was from day 1. Reading over Kingjames filter has made me not want to vote for him. you don't want to vote anyone. You have 0 scumreads. I wish I could kill you. | ||
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nah not really. Not anymore. I'm still on my phone, that's why my posts are kinda short. I'll do the rereadings and be back later with more stuffs. | ||
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fixed, kita bro you gf by any chance? | ||
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On January 20 2012 02:02 jaj22 wrote: I'm having doubts about BM too. Maybe OpZ is right and he's just a bad player posting whatever random junk comes into his head. Jitsu: What do you think? Any chance of a mason log? Also I don't like anything in Protact's latest scumread post, which is scaring the shit out of me. OpZ called BM scum the last time I checked...has something changed? Why the hell are we trusting OpZ anyway? Or BM for that matter? | ||
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On January 20 2012 03:50 jaj22 wrote: That was my point. I should probably make those clearer. Ok. I forgot about a couple of bits that I was fine with, so my statement was inaccurate. Here goes: I covered this in another post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13201470 This is absolutely true except that BM had a really spammy patch in day 2, so I'm not too sure about the frequency point yet. In TL Mafia XXII his post count crashes at the end of day 2 and stays low. What? Toad was trying to protect his scumbuddy GGQ and get his scumbuddies Sandroba and Macpo lynched instead? I don't buy the Palmar lynch influence knowledge point because it's quite plausible that Toad just jumped to a conclusion. I don't think it's even an illogical conclusion from the "compromise" post. I'm guessing this is a pressure case because Protact can't get a read out of Toad's filter any more than I can  I thought Sandroba's day 2 posting was better if anything. At least less trolly. Which mayor candidate was going to lynch Ciryandor? I thought Protactinium settled on Macpo. The Palmar lynch influence is a red mark but there was a plausible narrative based on Sandro's posts in the thread and the mason log. Still not sure about Sandroba personally. I found a couple of his other town games: His LotR (town) filter looks much like his scum play, which this game does too, but his Mini Mafia X (town) posting was vastly superior. Actual care and effort put into posting. If he doesn't raise his game here I'll consider voting for him. This meta-read is beyond me. Any other vets want to comment on Bum? I would agree with the meta read on bum primarily because he actually tries to contribute to town discussion and scumhunting when he is town. So far he (like most players in this game) has done very little. Bum also tends to shy away from spotlight when he is scum. This is very unlike his play, for example, from steamship or any other game where he is town. | ||
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Granted, this is exactly what he did in XLVIII, just always pushing random people who never had a chance of being lynched. Knowing this, though, it becomes hard to determine whether he is actually scum or just playing like he normally does At this point I don't care because I don't think kingjames is the best kill for today. I'd much rather we kill BM and Toad. | ||
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On January 20 2012 05:06 kingjames01 wrote: It's not random and you have heard of it. From me. Perhaps you just missed it. You should go back and look at what I am pointing out. I've given quite detailed analyses as to why he has demonstrated mafia behaviour. Just take a look through the analysis and see what you think. It's quite apparent once you read through p4NDemik's history. to be honest with you I haven't paid much attention to him. He's made a couple of questionable posts in terms of what he's actually looking for, but I don't think that makes him scum, just new. The way he attacked me for what I was saying drew a lot of attention to him. I don't think as scum he would have done that. I will be rereading the thread today again anyway, so I'll try to see if what you're saying has any merit. | ||
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On January 20 2012 05:15 Lanaia wrote: Do you think BM is lying about hatterism? Toad's bothering me a bit. He keeps asserting himself as town because he's pegged people correctly. It's gotten to the point of overemphasis. Tell me, guys, is this typical of town? To me, it feels overeager. How I usually hunt scum is by looking for people who are overeager. Toad is one of these people. Gut is yelling at me to lynch him. But gut alone probably will get me into trouble (as it has repeatedly before). I'm voting Slardar. I'm also going to vote GGQ because this has been a long time coming and I feel it is in our best interests to do so. you actually believe his claim? Honestly I don't believe I've found one thing that BM has said this entire game that makes a shred of sense. As for Toad, yes, it's very atypical for townies. Why the hell are you voting slardar? Have you even had a scumread on him? Just use logic and common sense and build a case on Toad instead of voting random people. | ||
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On January 20 2012 05:30 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm going to go ahead and step in here WBG. I don't think it's damning at all to bring up "a random lynch we've never heard of" . Talk about the content of the case if you disagree with him. Do you find kingjames suspicious independently or are you just talking trash because some have expressed suspicion on him? Your basing your entire read, again, on meta if you say it's independent, and your meta reads are clearly fucking shit bro. I suggest you speak to the content of his case. Maybe you'll see something I've missed. p4N's filter is pretty terribad. You're saying you disagree that the guy who spent 3 pages worth of clarifying why you were "speaking in third person" is suspicious? Are you going to do this right now WBG? AM I GONNA HAVE TO SMACK A BITCH WBG? AM I? Like I just said, when he called me out he took a ton of attention. Perhaps he didn't mean to take that attention, but I feel like scum are less likely to what he did. Also his tirade of "why are you talking in the third person" looked more like a new player not knowing what he's doing than a scum trying to force a mislynch. At any rate I'll be back after class and will read stuff again, since I need to. | ||
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On January 20 2012 08:38 GGQ wrote: I think there's more that enough on BM to justify a vote right now. The second vote is trickier, I'm considering supersoft and p4ndemic, but I'm not enthusiastic about lynching kingjames. No one seems to have noted that cyber_cheese's activity level is sharply decreased this day phase, which only furthers my suspicions of him. Not that this determines his alignment one way or the other, but can WBG confirm that supersoft did, in fact, mason him? wait wtf how do you know supersoft masoned me? | ||
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On January 20 2012 08:35 Toadesstern wrote: I'm actually going to place my 2nd vote on WBG and as mentioned earlier: I just got home after drinking a couple of beers with friends and will look into KJ's filter tomorrow. For now my vote is on wbg because NOONE except me and VE claimed a hit. 2 hits are missing, our sheriff claimed he has not sheriff'ed someone (also noone claimed to be locked up so far) => I should be pretty much a confirmed townie at this point imo. I don't see what's wrong with him and his style this game but this is just FAR too off to be just bad town. ##Unvote kingjames01 ##Vote wherebugsgo Take it as a placeholder while pointing a heavy fos in wbg's direction. lol this is what I'm talking about. This is like the most random vote I've ever seen. Plus, the only justification is "I'm a confirmed townie so I can do this and heavy FoS on WBG" No reason. No logic. | ||
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On January 20 2012 09:26 Jackal58 wrote: Game is easier if you actually read it. his post was on the previous page, I just read this last one and was like wtf what did I miss lololol I see it now. | ||
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On January 20 2012 09:36 p4NDemik wrote: I'd really like to see those logs wbg btw if possible. It seems very convenient that he masoned L but couldn't get him to talk. And it feels odd that he feels it necessary to give an excuse immediately after that. I also never brought his activity level into question in the first place. I actually never ended up saving all the logs. This is all I have: + Show Spoiler + [12:39] <supersoft> hi [12:39] <wherebugsgo> hey [12:39] <wherebugsgo> ok so [12:39] <supersoft> wait, I just came home etc. [12:39] <wherebugsgo> Jackal I think is town [12:40] <supersoft> yay [12:40] <supersoft> 10 more pages [12:40] <wherebugsgo> lolol [12:41] <wherebugsgo> I'm not sure about BC man [12:41] <supersoft> sucks that we wont be able to communicate after the nightkills [12:42] <wherebugsgo> yeah :/ [12:42] <supersoft> hmm [12:42] <wherebugsgo> we should devise a way [12:42] <wherebugsgo> to communicate [12:42] <wherebugsgo> like [12:42] <supersoft> last game he had this DT/Vig plan [12:42] <supersoft> this game he discusses the masons to death [12:42] <wherebugsgo> first letter of every post or something rofl [12:42] <wherebugsgo> yeah but [12:42] <wherebugsgo> iunno [12:42] <wherebugsgo> actually now that I think about it [12:43] <wherebugsgo> his play is no different [12:43] <wherebugsgo> he had no real lynch target last time [12:43] <supersoft> ahhhhh [12:43] <supersoft> good idea [12:43] <supersoft> but [12:43] <supersoft> first letter [12:43] <supersoft> :D [12:43] <supersoft> we need a lot of posts [12:43] <wherebugsgo> first letter of every line? [12:43] <wherebugsgo> lol [12:43] <wherebugsgo> nah [12:43] <supersoft> hmm [12:43] <supersoft> :D [12:43] <wherebugsgo> could start a post with a keyword [12:43] <wherebugsgo> and like [12:43] <supersoft> no [12:43] <wherebugsgo> the last line is the message [12:43] <supersoft> i got an easy way [12:44] <supersoft> a = 3 [12:44] <supersoft> b = g [12:44] <supersoft> c = a [12:44] <wherebugsgo> wtf lol [12:44] <supersoft> lol [12:44] <supersoft> but [12:44] <supersoft> etc. [12:44] <wherebugsgo> hmmm [12:44] <wherebugsgo> LOL [12:44] <wherebugsgo> I'll do a bunch of gibberish [12:44] <wherebugsgo> aslkdjadslkajdlak [12:44] <wherebugsgo> = [12:45] <wherebugsgo> WTF THIS GUY IS SCUM KILL HIM [12:45] <wherebugsgo> lool [12:45] <supersoft> :D [12:46] <supersoft> i mean [12:46] <supersoft> most of the time we got no reason to hide what we say [12:46] <supersoft> i'd be comfortable to talk like his in the thread [12:46] <supersoft> but once i start posting single words [12:46] <wherebugsgo> yeah agreed [12:46] <supersoft> the hosts and fellowplayers will be pretty angry [12:46] <wherebugsgo> we should [12:47] <wherebugsgo> spontaneously start a discussion [12:47] <wherebugsgo> in the middle of the day lol [12:47] <supersoft> for important things [12:47] <supersoft> like if we fake something [12:47] <supersoft> e.g. [12:47] <wherebugsgo> do yo uhave yesterday's logs? [12:47] <supersoft> you fake vig [12:47] <supersoft> no lol :D [12:47] <wherebugsgo> fuuuuu [12:47] <wherebugsgo> I don't either lol [12:47] <wherebugsgo> I'm noob [12:47] <supersoft> meh [12:47] <wherebugsgo> oh w/e [12:47] <supersoft> i thought you save them [12:48] <wherebugsgo> forgot lol [12:48] <supersoft> it's just a lot of "omg Palmar is so deep red" [12:48] <wherebugsgo> LOL [12:48] <supersoft> and "wtf?!" [12:48] <wherebugsgo> yeah it's kinda useless now [12:48] <wherebugsgo> but protact [12:48] <wherebugsgo> BC [12:48] <wherebugsgo> opz [12:48] <wherebugsgo> like they all seem weird to me [12:48] <supersoft> kkk lets filter these guys [12:48] <wherebugsgo> I don't get a "this guy is town" read on anyone except like Jackal [12:48] <supersoft> BM [12:49] <supersoft> is kind of town in my eyes [12:49] <wherebugsgo> hmmm [12:49] <wherebugsgo> maybe [12:49] <wherebugsgo> kita is almost town to me [12:49] <wherebugsgo> problem is that he always looks the same [12:49] <wherebugsgo> even as scum lol [12:49] <supersoft> phew kita... [12:50] <supersoft> I had lanaya on my townlist, too [12:50] <wherebugsgo> iunno [12:50] <supersoft> the only female player you know [12:50] <wherebugsgo> you can't tell [12:50] <wherebugsgo> what she is [12:50] <wherebugsgo> I didn't know who she was a couple months ago so I talked to curu [12:51] <supersoft> okay wait. Let's make a short list of players [12:51] <supersoft> we work through and discuss [12:51] <supersoft> BC, Prot, opz [12:51] <wherebugsgo> ok [12:51] <wherebugsgo> BC what I don't like [12:51] <supersoft> :D [12:51] <wherebugsgo> is he didn't comment on Palmar [12:51] <wherebugsgo> before lynching him [12:51] <wherebugsgo> otherwise I'm mostly ok with BC [12:52] <supersoft> that is correct. Someone pointed that out in the thread [12:52] <supersoft> i think it was toadesstern [12:52] <supersoft> ". Really weak opinion and taking his own responsibility out of the equation, because he wasn’t the one who pushed for Palmar." - jayjay [12:52] <supersoft> it was jayjay [12:52] <wherebugsgo> ok yeah [12:53] <wherebugsgo> that guy I think is town too [12:53] <wherebugsgo> all the noobies [12:53] <wherebugsgo> who keep talking in the thread [12:53] <wherebugsgo> look pretty town [12:53] <supersoft> 5) Hydra Talks a billion times about why to lynch BC, makes a good case. Gets my vote, I go to sleep and he switches to Macpo? Nice. That doesn’t exactly convey trust. I don’t like it. [12:53] <supersoft> there is some good stuff in his post [12:53] <wherebugsgo> LOL [12:53] <supersoft> we had this point yesterday [12:53] <wherebugsgo> yeah bumatlarge immediately "regreted" his thing [12:54] <wherebugsgo> his vote for protact [12:54] <supersoft> ah no toadesstern wants to lynch you [12:54] <wherebugsgo> idc [12:54] <supersoft> kurumi [12:54] <wherebugsgo> he's not going to be able to lynch me [12:55] <supersoft> I fucking regret voting Protact. - kurumi [12:55] <wherebugsgo> I think kurumi is scum [12:55] <wherebugsgo> idk why [12:55] <wherebugsgo> or no actually [12:55] <wherebugsgo> he's too active [12:55] <supersoft> naah [12:55] <supersoft> yes [12:55] <supersoft> his jokes etc. [12:55] <wherebugsgo> yeah [12:55] <supersoft> he does that as town a lot [12:55] <wherebugsgo> yep [12:55] <wherebugsgo> so he's town [12:56] <supersoft> etc. [12:56] <supersoft> "are you the singing kind of guy" [12:56] <wherebugsgo> LOL [12:56] <supersoft> mhm i think so :D [12:57] <supersoft> risk.nuke [12:58] <wherebugsgo> you think he's suspicious? [12:58] <supersoft> i am undecided [12:58] <supersoft> he played terrible last game [12:58] <supersoft> idk [12:58] <supersoft> his mayoral campaign [12:59] <wherebugsgo> I think he's townish [12:59] <supersoft> it somehow fits in his [12:59] <supersoft> overconfident [12:59] <supersoft> townstyle [12:59] <wherebugsgo> ye [12:59] <supersoft> okay [12:59] <wherebugsgo> this post: [12:59] <wherebugsgo> Yeah, when a person is about to face lynching thats a different situation but I shouldn't need to explain everything as if you were in kindergarten most people here are adults with a higher then average iq. Saying you have a townread on someone who isn't under suspicion or face the threat of a lynch is superbad townplay. Saying you have a townread on someone under suspicion is also bad play because if they are under suspicion that's great. That means they won't ge [12:59] <wherebugsgo> makes him look town [13:00] <supersoft> okay good [13:00] <supersoft> i am sorting the players right now [13:00] <supersoft> :-P [13:02] <supersoft> ahm i need your opinion on toadesstern [13:03] <wherebugsgo> let me reread his posts real quick [13:03] <supersoft> he has this huge posts style [13:03] <supersoft> so annying to read through [13:05] <supersoft> he got 6 pages... [13:05] <supersoft> what the fuck. I list him as unable to read. [13:05] <wherebugsgo> yeah [13:06] <wherebugsgo> I just noticed LOL [13:06] <supersoft> okay [13:06] <wherebugsgo> he looks [13:06] <wherebugsgo> more town than scum to me [13:07] <supersoft> maybe i mason him [13:07] <supersoft> he's german [13:07] <supersoft> I will be able to interview him [13:07] <wherebugsgo> yes [13:07] <supersoft> if he's scum it'll be really tough [13:07] <wherebugsgo> yes] [13:07] <wherebugsgo> you knew his alignment [13:07] <wherebugsgo> in my/incog's game? [13:08] <supersoft> yes [13:08] <wherebugsgo> ok [13:08] <wherebugsgo> his posts [13:08] <wherebugsgo> look somewhat similar [13:08] <wherebugsgo> but iunno [13:08] <supersoft> yes [13:08] <supersoft> these long posts [13:08] <wherebugsgo> like I'm not 100% sure [13:09] <wherebugsgo> can you find any post [13:09] <wherebugsgo> that you find by him to be suspicious [13:10] <supersoft> I still agree with sandroba about the mass claim however. [13:10] <supersoft> I'm going with sheth here. It's nice that we got this discussion going and got some information we can work with but I'd like toget back to our mayor candidates. [13:10] <wherebugsgo> oh shit [13:10] <supersoft> everything [13:10] <wherebugsgo> sandro [13:11] <supersoft> is so [13:11] <supersoft> pfff [13:11] <wherebugsgo> sandro was the one who wanted mass claim [13:11] <wherebugsgo> ? [13:11] <wherebugsgo> WTF [13:11] <wherebugsgo> why did I not notice that [13:11] <wherebugsgo> we should kill him [13:11] <supersoft> mhm [13:11] <supersoft> :D [13:11] <supersoft> you told me he deserves a second chance [13:11] <supersoft> :D [13:11] <wherebugsgo> he hasn't done anything [13:11] <supersoft> yes [13:11] <wherebugsgo> yeah [13:11] <wherebugsgo> well [13:12] <wherebugsgo> he got his second chance [13:12] <supersoft> his second chance is tomorrow [13:12] <wherebugsgo> lol exactly [13:12] <wherebugsgo> tonight too [13:12] <supersoft> at the end of the day he's either active or dead [13:12] <wherebugsgo> bet you he'll post something really small [13:12] <wherebugsgo> before end of night [13:13] <wherebugsgo> foolishness? [13:13] <wherebugsgo> what do you think of him [13:13] <supersoft> haha probably [13:13] <supersoft> nothing [13:13] <supersoft> i've never played with him [13:13] <wherebugsgo> hmm same :/ [13:13] <supersoft> surpisingly [13:13] <supersoft> i [13:13] <wherebugsgo> nah we played XLIV [13:13] <wherebugsgo> he was in that game [13:13] <supersoft> i dont remember [13:13] <supersoft> yes but [13:14] <wherebugsgo> he caught mig day 1 [13:14] <supersoft> ahhh [13:14] <supersoft> that game [13:14] <supersoft> i remember [13:14] <supersoft> yes [13:14] <supersoft> uh thats a long time ago [13:14] <wherebugsgo> that was my first game lol [13:15] <wherebugsgo> ok my question is [13:15] <supersoft> kk [13:15] <wherebugsgo> why did toad have a stubborn Palmar read [13:15] <wherebugsgo> when there was no reason to believe so [13:15] <wherebugsgo> how does a noob [13:15] <wherebugsgo> have a better read on Palmar [13:15] <wherebugsgo> than me + you + Jackal? [13:15] <supersoft> okay [13:15] <supersoft> thats a valid point [13:15] <supersoft> makes him pretty scummy [13:16] <supersoft> i really think there is no reason to think that palmar was town [13:16] <wherebugsgo> he voted BM too [13:16] <wherebugsgo> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=57#1122 [13:17] <supersoft> hmm brb [13:19] <wherebugsgo> his first post [13:19] <wherebugsgo> about how he thinks someone is scum [13:19] <wherebugsgo> came just now [13:19] <wherebugsgo> about sandro or bum [13:19] <wherebugsgo> and he still says nothing [13:27] <supersoft> well okay [13:27] <supersoft> i guess i wont mason him [13:27] <supersoft> its better to mason someone [13:28] <supersoft> i can discuss the game with [13:28] <wherebugsgo> yes [13:28] <wherebugsgo> well you could if you want [13:28] <wherebugsgo> to confirm him as scum [13:28] <supersoft> hmm [13:29] <supersoft> you think i should [13:29] <wherebugsgo> I dunno [13:29] <wherebugsgo> it's up to you [13:29] <wherebugsgo> who would you mason instead? [13:30] <supersoft> L ? [13:31] <wherebugsgo> sure that works [13:31] <wherebugsgo> you could mason Foolish [13:31] <wherebugsgo> if he's alive [13:31] <supersoft> okay [13:31] <supersoft> i guess its better to chose one of these active people [13:32] <wherebugsgo> kita maybe [13:32] <supersoft> naah [13:33] <wherebugsgo> ok LoL match brb [13:34] <supersoft> :D [13:35] <supersoft> same here [13:35] <supersoft> lol [13:35] <supersoft> sorry ^_^ [14:23] <supersoft> okay sorry [14:23] <supersoft> can you copy paste me the dialogue? ^^ [14:44] <wherebugsgo> ? [14:44] <supersoft> everything we talked about like 1 hour ago :D [14:45] <wherebugsgo> I'll send it by pm | ||
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On January 20 2012 10:56 Jitsu wrote: Home from class. Just read thread. Interesting to see Supersoft flip scum as well. LOL WUT | ||
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On January 20 2012 11:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: also, 8 confirmed people running around in pms is ridiculous -_- how are the masons confirmed, exactly? Unless I'm missing something, can't the scum be masons too? | ||
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Sandro still hasn't done anything, so I think it's actually likely he is scum. What about Toad, though? Is he getting off just because he said to kill sandro? | ||
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