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On January 15 2012 04:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 04:16 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 15 2012 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jayjay you're pushing yourself on the premise of "I've got good reads because I...correctly called out a townie"
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You know that scum know when someone's townie, right? Why don't you correctly call out someone as scum and THEN talk about how good your reads are. Seriously... I did not say that because of my Mattchew read. That's not the point. I got confidence in my logic and in my game. The real point is, that I am TOWN. And I think I did give proof for that. People were already saying how bad it is to have a 25% chance of getting a scum mayor and that randomly giving it to somebody would be better because it's 20% then. Well guess what, I am 100% homegrown town and therefore a safe option. here's the point: 1) I don't like talking about that math bullshit. That's all talk about "what would happen if we make a true rnd vote". That's not going to happen. Never ever. Fine with me mentioning but I don't think we need it right now 2) I think you're town but I don't want you to be mayor because I don't thnk you're up to it. I don't go for mayor myself although I said mattchew is a townie and ended up being right because that call was easy as it can get. 3) I'll say it once more: I think you're townie, but you running for mayor is not going to help town right now. Not at all.
That's a fine opinion. I am pretty sure that I won't get mayor. Still, I think I would be a decent one. And I am 100% better than a scum mayor. I tell you that 
I already stated, I want to be "another option", before town ends up with scum. So if there's doubt that scum is riding a bandwagon or total confusion, I might be the way to go.
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On January 15 2012 04:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 04:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:
and re. I'll be voting BM right now. d1 (like RL-d1) I thought it's the most horrible thing possible but he gives me townvibes.
There's no way I will vote for sandro, bc or bum because I think either 1 or 2 out of them is scum and the mafia out of those is trying to screw with me / us.
I just don't want to vote into that triangle of I-don't-know.
wbg would be an alternative but I've got more of an stubborn-palmar read than a useless-palmar read and I'd like to lynch someone else d1. If possible someone who's not a vet and leave palmar for d2.
Wiggles and kita didn't say a lot lately so although I (somehow) got a townfeeling out of that much nothing I'd much rather vote someone else.
Mattchew and VE a re both town but I'd rather have someone else in that position imo.
Oh and everyone who got no mention either is hard to judge for me or is not worth a mention. Deal with it :p
Still catching up. I'm reading the last 2 pages, I'm eating and I will post a little bit more if needed. I'll take that as me being too awesome for your judgement or something. I'd like to hear from Foolishness now. What made it seem like a good idea to make Mattchew run for mayor, over equally active people she had more history with? Why is she interested in controlling Bill Murray? actually yeah. I have no idea what you're up to at this point in time. I'm going to quote from my sheet: 7. Cyber_Cheese
I haven o idea
no idea at all I tried several times to get something about you going but I never was able to put something into words. You're like THE nullread I have in this game and I don't know why I have so much trouble to figure you out. Want to to me a faver and tell me real fast who you want to lynch and who's the best mayor in your opinion (other than yourself) ? I don't really want to read your filter again right now  Mayor, I honestly have no idea. I was pretty close to going for Mattchew after he explained how he got to choosing Foolishness. I suppose BC doesn't seem like the bad choice people make him out to be, I feel like he's explained his plan enough. Lynch... Probably VisceraEyes or Risk.Nuke, for starting a mayorial campaign and giving up on it. To clarify the lynch. I want the scummiest person who ran for mayor. I'm just not sure who that is at the moment. Sandroba seems like a decent option.
so that's sandroba for lynch, VE for lynch or risk nuke for lynch and BC for mayor?
Or was sandroba another viable option for mayor for you?
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Wait, suddenly I'm a lynch candidate? What the actual fuck?!
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CC get your ass back in here and clarify - you were voting for me for mayor. That indicates that you think I'm very NOT scummy...but suddenly you want to lynch me because "I'm the scummiest player that ran for mayor"? Do you realize how contradictory and retarded that sounds?
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On January 15 2012 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 04:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:
and re. I'll be voting BM right now. d1 (like RL-d1) I thought it's the most horrible thing possible but he gives me townvibes.
There's no way I will vote for sandro, bc or bum because I think either 1 or 2 out of them is scum and the mafia out of those is trying to screw with me / us.
I just don't want to vote into that triangle of I-don't-know.
wbg would be an alternative but I've got more of an stubborn-palmar read than a useless-palmar read and I'd like to lynch someone else d1. If possible someone who's not a vet and leave palmar for d2.
Wiggles and kita didn't say a lot lately so although I (somehow) got a townfeeling out of that much nothing I'd much rather vote someone else.
Mattchew and VE a re both town but I'd rather have someone else in that position imo.
Oh and everyone who got no mention either is hard to judge for me or is not worth a mention. Deal with it :p
Still catching up. I'm reading the last 2 pages, I'm eating and I will post a little bit more if needed. I'll take that as me being too awesome for your judgement or something. I'd like to hear from Foolishness now. What made it seem like a good idea to make Mattchew run for mayor, over equally active people she had more history with? Why is she interested in controlling Bill Murray? actually yeah. I have no idea what you're up to at this point in time. I'm going to quote from my sheet: 7. Cyber_Cheese
I haven o idea
no idea at all I tried several times to get something about you going but I never was able to put something into words. You're like THE nullread I have in this game and I don't know why I have so much trouble to figure you out. Want to to me a faver and tell me real fast who you want to lynch and who's the best mayor in your opinion (other than yourself) ? I don't really want to read your filter again right now Mayor, I honestly have no idea. I was pretty close to going for Mattchew after he explained how he got to choosing Foolishness. I suppose BC doesn't seem like the bad choice people make him out to be, I feel like he's explained his plan enough. Lynch... Probably VisceraEyes or Risk.Nuke, for starting a mayorial campaign and giving up on it. To clarify the lynch. I want the scummiest person who ran for mayor. I'm just not sure who that is at the moment. Sandroba seems like a decent option. so that's sandroba for lynch, VE for lynch or risk nuke for lynch and BC for mayor? Or was sandroba another viable option for mayor for you?
Sandroba is definitely an option for lynch.
This was my most recent posted stances on the game.
What's changed since then?
Slardar did nothing. I expected nothing, I feel like there are better lynch choices that I can get better reads on.
BC convinced me he thoroughly believes his plan is good, and outside of the plan/claim I think he's a good candidate.
Sandroba, I'm not sure in particular, I just feel like he didn't nearly put as much effort into his campaign as a townie would have, and I disagree with his stances.
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On January 15 2012 00:57 Toadesstern wrote:I'm visiting my sis so I'm out for a couple of hours. However I still have a couple of people I have no idea about. I'm just leaving you with a list of 5 or so names and if you see your name on that list I'd like to know who you want to vote for mayor and if you had to decide the first lynch who it would be. I'm only mentioning people I think might read this, so thx if you do: + Show Spoiler +5. risk.nuke
9. Kenpachi (you won't answer this right?)
11. EchelonTee
14. Liquid`Sheth
20. Ciryandor
49. Scamp turns out I got 6 names instead of only 5 but yeah that's it for now.
I'm voting for Protactinium for Mayor at the moment. He has what I believe to have been the best case for Mayor.
If I had to decide the first lynch, I'd probably make it a town affair and get everyone's opinions on who they wanted to lynch and then decide based on what that information gave me.
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Oh and VisceraEyes stayed completely dropped out of the mayorial elections, despite learning that at least one person was in fact interested in his campaigning.
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How does that make someone scummy enough to lynch CC? Someone you were going to vote for, how does that make them scummy?
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On January 15 2012 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 04:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:
and re. I'll be voting BM right now. d1 (like RL-d1) I thought it's the most horrible thing possible but he gives me townvibes.
There's no way I will vote for sandro, bc or bum because I think either 1 or 2 out of them is scum and the mafia out of those is trying to screw with me / us.
I just don't want to vote into that triangle of I-don't-know.
wbg would be an alternative but I've got more of an stubborn-palmar read than a useless-palmar read and I'd like to lynch someone else d1. If possible someone who's not a vet and leave palmar for d2.
Wiggles and kita didn't say a lot lately so although I (somehow) got a townfeeling out of that much nothing I'd much rather vote someone else.
Mattchew and VE a re both town but I'd rather have someone else in that position imo.
Oh and everyone who got no mention either is hard to judge for me or is not worth a mention. Deal with it :p
Still catching up. I'm reading the last 2 pages, I'm eating and I will post a little bit more if needed. I'll take that as me being too awesome for your judgement or something. I'd like to hear from Foolishness now. What made it seem like a good idea to make Mattchew run for mayor, over equally active people she had more history with? Why is she interested in controlling Bill Murray? actually yeah. I have no idea what you're up to at this point in time. I'm going to quote from my sheet: 7. Cyber_Cheese
I haven o idea
no idea at all I tried several times to get something about you going but I never was able to put something into words. You're like THE nullread I have in this game and I don't know why I have so much trouble to figure you out. Want to to me a faver and tell me real fast who you want to lynch and who's the best mayor in your opinion (other than yourself) ? I don't really want to read your filter again right now Mayor, I honestly have no idea. I was pretty close to going for Mattchew after he explained how he got to choosing Foolishness. I suppose BC doesn't seem like the bad choice people make him out to be, I feel like he's explained his plan enough. Lynch... Probably VisceraEyes or Risk.Nuke, for starting a mayorial campaign and giving up on it. To clarify the lynch. I want the scummiest person who ran for mayor. I'm just not sure who that is at the moment. Sandroba seems like a decent option. so that's sandroba for lynch, VE for lynch or risk nuke for lynch and BC for mayor? Or was sandroba another viable option for mayor for you?
I actually like the lynch the mayor candidate plan. But I really think that scum would bet on their best horse. So if there's one scum mayor candidate, it would be a well established player IMO. That leaves us with?
BC? Sandro?
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Consolidating candidates is pro-town, and one person does not a voting-base make. blazh0r had voted for me too, but he said his vote was just a reaction test (or whatever)...but seriously, now I want to know. What has been scummy enough about my play to waste the D1 lynch on me?
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On January 15 2012 04:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
How does that make someone scummy enough to lynch CC? Someone you were going to vote for, how does that make them scummy?
Because when I put myself in your shoes, as a townie I would have recognised that my campaign was still valuable, where as part of a scum team, I would have planned around myself being out of the running, and not needed to resurface it.
For now, I'm going to
##vote: BloodyC0bbler
and see how those other two I would consider perform while I sleep.
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On January 15 2012 04:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 00:57 Toadesstern wrote:I'm visiting my sis so I'm out for a couple of hours. However I still have a couple of people I have no idea about. I'm just leaving you with a list of 5 or so names and if you see your name on that list I'd like to know who you want to vote for mayor and if you had to decide the first lynch who it would be. I'm only mentioning people I think might read this, so thx if you do: + Show Spoiler +5. risk.nuke
9. Kenpachi (you won't answer this right?)
11. EchelonTee
14. Liquid`Sheth
20. Ciryandor
49. Scamp turns out I got 6 names instead of only 5 but yeah that's it for now. I'm voting for Protactinium for Mayor at the moment. He has what I believe to have been the best case for Mayor. If I had to decide the first lynch, I'd probably make it a town affair and get everyone's opinions on who they wanted to lynch and then decide based on what that information gave me.
so the belief you have for deciding a lynch is via discussion and town consensus but you are voting for a player who has made 0 posts aside from saying he would kill ciryandor if elected or kill me if elected. so You are actually in favour of having someone lynched with 0 discussion as you are strictly following the most inactive of all the candidates who sole stance currently is lynching me.
contradiction
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##Daykill: Cyber_Cheese
That's right motherfuckers, I'm the Town Jack. CyberCheese is pushing his scum candidate BC, who needs to NOT be mayor. You asshats need to unvote BC if CC flips scum and whoever is mayor needs to lynch me if he flips town.
Tired of this shit.
Jitsu masoned me, and was trying to get me to comment on BC/Protract. I think he's scum too.
Also on my list of scum is Palmar, for obvious reasons.
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On January 15 2012 04:50 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 04:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 15 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:
and re. I'll be voting BM right now. d1 (like RL-d1) I thought it's the most horrible thing possible but he gives me townvibes.
There's no way I will vote for sandro, bc or bum because I think either 1 or 2 out of them is scum and the mafia out of those is trying to screw with me / us.
I just don't want to vote into that triangle of I-don't-know.
wbg would be an alternative but I've got more of an stubborn-palmar read than a useless-palmar read and I'd like to lynch someone else d1. If possible someone who's not a vet and leave palmar for d2.
Wiggles and kita didn't say a lot lately so although I (somehow) got a townfeeling out of that much nothing I'd much rather vote someone else.
Mattchew and VE a re both town but I'd rather have someone else in that position imo.
Oh and everyone who got no mention either is hard to judge for me or is not worth a mention. Deal with it :p
Still catching up. I'm reading the last 2 pages, I'm eating and I will post a little bit more if needed. I'll take that as me being too awesome for your judgement or something. I'd like to hear from Foolishness now. What made it seem like a good idea to make Mattchew run for mayor, over equally active people she had more history with? Why is she interested in controlling Bill Murray? actually yeah. I have no idea what you're up to at this point in time. I'm going to quote from my sheet: 7. Cyber_Cheese
I haven o idea
no idea at all I tried several times to get something about you going but I never was able to put something into words. You're like THE nullread I have in this game and I don't know why I have so much trouble to figure you out. Want to to me a faver and tell me real fast who you want to lynch and who's the best mayor in your opinion (other than yourself) ? I don't really want to read your filter again right now Mayor, I honestly have no idea. I was pretty close to going for Mattchew after he explained how he got to choosing Foolishness. I suppose BC doesn't seem like the bad choice people make him out to be, I feel like he's explained his plan enough. Lynch... Probably VisceraEyes or Risk.Nuke, for starting a mayorial campaign and giving up on it. To clarify the lynch. I want the scummiest person who ran for mayor. I'm just not sure who that is at the moment. Sandroba seems like a decent option. so that's sandroba for lynch, VE for lynch or risk nuke for lynch and BC for mayor? Or was sandroba another viable option for mayor for you? I actually like the lynch the mayor candidate plan. But I really think that scum would bet on their best horse. So if there's one scum mayor candidate, it would be a well established player IMO. That leaves us with? BC? Sandro?
unlikely sandro.
In a game with meapak, myself, BM, incog, and L would make far better "horses" than sandro We are all higher profile players and at least of the 5, 3 of us have decent scum games. Sandro has less experience in both town and mafia compared to the rest of us.
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wait what? our best role has just been claimed? really?
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On January 15 2012 04:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
One of, Jayjay. One of.
where does it say jacks can day shoot?
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..................yeah, about that.....
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 15 2012 03:59 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 03:46 risk.nuke wrote:On January 15 2012 03:39 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 15 2012 03:35 risk.nuke wrote:On January 15 2012 02:29 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 15 2012 02:17 risk.nuke wrote:He made some bad posts and then disappears, agree. It's odd, but some people have to do stuff on the weekend. He's def a candidate though - Jay I just realised this. Look at my posthistory and tell me if you would describe it as "I made some bad posts". SCUM for softdefending me without seeing my filter. I don't know, if I should respond to that. L had a point and called me out for a reason. I like to clarify things then. And it is important to do so. But your accusation is clearly OMGUS. I didn't even really accuse you and said you might be busy during the weekend. Who are you to tell me that I didn't look into your filter and that I don't keep a spreadsheet? That's just not right. Also, notice how I said bad, not scummy. So a) you're campaign "always a townie" was just. well, bad. I didn't like it, it felt generic, it was badly formated and it lacked a solid gameplan. b) calling out rgSchworz because he didn't like your campaign either in a very agressive and condescending way. again, not even really scummy. just bad. All in all yeah, I think you are one candidate to look out for. After this post even more. Although, and I repeat myself here, I don't even think you're scummy, but you seem scummy, because your posts lack quality. What omgus are you speaking of? Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move. Scum loves to do this but townies do this to and that is not what I am reacting on. Here is the thing. Jay refered to my posts as bad. Which to anyone who looks at them could see they are clearly not bad. They are few but there isn't a single irrelevant/bad post in there. So why would anyone call them bad? Well they wouldn't. So why would Jay defend me without reading my filter. Well because he is scum and therefor know I am town and unluckily assumed that the reason I was looked at was a bad post. He was beeing uncarefull and made a scumslip. And Jay haven't accused me so how can It be omgus. Look at the mass contradictions in his followup post. "I wasn't accusing you, but this is omgus" and "I don't think you're scum but you're scummy" <--- WHAT? He is also bringing up rgSchwors which makes no sense unless perhaps feels it's more pro-town to ignore attacks on you. I was just arguing/discussion with rhSchwors when he attacked my candidacy which is the natural thing to do. He's just trying hard to make me look bad. On January 15 2012 02:32 Mattchew wrote:
yay for risk.nuke and jayjay tunneling one another because they disagree mattchew, he might be tunneling the me, but I am clearly not tunneling him with one post. Why on earth did you make a post like that for because it's purpose seemed to be to minimize, lessen and prevent discussion of this. Which seems incredibly biased.
If I'm elected I'll lynch Jay, I support BC for the election stronger then before because of jay's efforts against him. I most certainly accused you. "He's def a candidate though" is what you call defending? Maybe you weren't as good of a lawyer. And saying I'm scum is pretty much tunneling. And just because I think your posts are bad? Of course, you think they're good, but there may be differen opinions. Finally, please format your posts a little better. The formating of that post is fine, another attempts to make me look bad on irrelevant matters and it is a scummove because townies need to be unbiased and openminded, that is why tunneling is bad to begin with. Jay you are scum, you know it, I know it. But for you to help me convince my fellow town of this please let's discuss what matters. You may begin with pointing out which of my posts were bad. oh boy. This is my last response to you. Our little feud is getting town nowhere. Here you go with bad posts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=76576&user=76576Campaign, generic horrible structured, lack of game plan. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=29#573Condescending one liner, no content to discuss. random spam oh and most recently: Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 02:17 risk.nuke wrote:He made some bad posts and then disappears, agree. It's odd, but some people have to do stuff on the weekend. He's def a candidate though - Jay I just realised this. Look at my posthistory and tell me if you would describe it as "I made some bad posts". SCUM for softdefending me without seeing my filter. Didn't even read a single line. I say you are def a lynch candidate and you respond that I scummishly softdefending? If you quote a single line, please read it properly. It's funny that I'm not even on BCs scum list, even though I made a lot of points against him. That's because I put a lot of effort into a lot of posts which try to help town. other than that formating does actually matter. Because a good post is well structured and not a single wall of text. I'm not trying to make you look bad, your posts do by itself. You fail to add content, you don't read posts properly and your posting style is not good either. so there's that, if you answer, be warned, I won't answer, because I'm done with you, not in a OMGUS way, but a do whatever you want way. BC I'll answer you later on, have to think about it.
I asked you to point out my bad posts and you completely avoid the question and instead give a half-assed generic answer. And you softdefended me when you said give me brake I'm probably away for the weekend. What is worse imo is right after you say I'm probably a good lynch without providing reasoning. And you talk about that as if it was perfectly acceptable.
This is not a feud, this is me accusing you of beeing scum. That fact that you refer to this as a feud just makes me more sure on the fact that you know I'm townaligned. Add to that the fact that you don't want to talk with me. WHAT? I thought you said I was a good lynchcandidate which means you must atleast claim that you think I am scum. So you think I am scum but you don't want to discuss it? WHAT?
Jesus. Either you're dumb or scum and seeing how I just read you're trying to run for mayor on the grounds that you voted for mattchew so very full of yourself.
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On January 15 2012 04:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:where does it say jacks can day shoot?
Jack
You can act as a Medic, Veteran, Mason, and Vigilante... but not all at once and not more than once. You may use two of these four powers during the game: Protect, Mason, and Shoot. You may use the same power twice. Note that your Veteran life is not passive like that of a true Veteran's; you must choose when to activate it, and if it isn't used (as in, you aren't hit that night) it goes away.
well it doesn't say, that they can't. just "during the game"
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