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On January 21 2012 01:49 Toadesstern wrote: Someone willing to share some thoughts about BC, protact and Bum? I'm having a really hard time to judge them and I'm fine trusting them as long as they keep delivering mafias but I'm kind of scared I might be wrong here (I guess we'll see about that after the lynch). Protact looks to be town to me, but somthing bothers me, same with BC. Bum is just a complete null for me: Thought he's town d1. thought he's fishy d1.5, and I'm basicly getting different vibes all the time. BC I'm inherently distrusting and its difficult for me to get past his reputation but if I had to say I'd put him as town. I had my moments where I doubted Protact's town rep the day after the election, but those feelings disappeared with the successful Macpo lynch. I'm finding it difficult to keep them from resurfacing though today as he's sort of been orchestrating everything from the shadows for this day period but that was his style from the get-go and it has worked for him thus far so I'm still trusting his judgment. That said I'm very confident that the current leaders for today's double lynch are indeed mafia and these two have been all over them all day long. I expect to get farther confirmation of their town alignment tonight but if we don't go 2 for 2 there may still be room for doubt. bumatlarge I have a harder time with because his activity has waned a bit over the last few days. He has little else to his name atm other than this continued hunt on Meapak which when put in perspective looks very odd when there are strong cases elsewhere as far as I am concerned (and the majority of the town is concerned). However his behavior early in the game seems that of a focused townie that has clear goals with his vote and is annoyed why Jackal makes off-topic comments. Of the three, I'm probably leaning town on all of them, with BC being the weakest read of the lot. | ||
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p4NDemik
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He has been a nonfactor for some time when it comes to furthering town goals of catching mafia and has done little to nothing to put his name in good standing. In this sense I feel like he is an even better candidate than kingjames. The only things standing between him and what I still feel should be a landslide lynch vote is a number of other compelling cases, and his relative inactivity in the thread compared to the hollering of kingjames and the idiocy of BM. Use your best judgment, but please consider this case against supersoft. I feel we have a veritable smorgasbord of mafia targets at our disposal at the moment, and that's a great thing, but the strength of a few cases shouldn't let another pass by unnoticed. Unless someone that I see as a random lynch at this point somehow threatens to take kingjames' name off the chopping block I will keep my second vote on supersoft for these reasons. | ||
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On January 21 2012 02:13 glurio wrote: I didn't mason anyone on day 1, was busy reading the thread. Tried to mason with BC on day 2 he never answered. + Show Spoiler + To: BloodyC0bbler [ Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Mason Date: 1/17/12 19:31 Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now? So there really isn't anything i can post yet. Did anyone else think "Mafia Mason" at this post?[/QUOTE] Yes but mostly because it automatically reminds me of this horrible mason claim: On January 20 2012 07:22 supersoft wrote: pandemik. I am not mafia. I admit, that my activitylevel is poor. But that has to do with my role: I am mason. I claim right now, because scum already has that information. I masoned L yesterday and he refused to talk to me. He was never online when I was. With that information it's quite easy for you to know who I masoned Day1. It obviously was WBG and we talked a lot about Palmar. Obviously. From now on I'll be more active in the thread. Promised. On it's own merit I'm not entirely sure what to make of glurio's claim as there isn't much to it. It certainly reads in a more favorable light than supersoft's. | ||
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Original Message From glurio: Hey as you probably saw, i'm a mason. You're my target for the cycle. I liked your analysis and posts so i masoned you. What are your thoughts on BC? Lets consider everything though. 1) He's new, and he came into the game late with a backlog of like 30 pages he needed to catch up on 2) He read through countless pages of talk that disputed whether is role was worth a damn at all in the first place (I'm assuming he did read) I could see him coming out of the experience a bit exhausted and feeling neutered in his role. It feels plausible. | ||
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On January 21 2012 03:14 Toadesstern wrote: and actually I don't like the fact that BC's going after him at all given that he's a replacement. No kidding. You make such a concerted effort early game to chop the dicks off of every mason in the game and then when some dickless looking masons show up later you say it is characteristic of mafia when really its characteristic of the atmosphere you went about creating yourself in the thread. Pardon the language but I feel it is appropriate. | ||
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On January 21 2012 03:24 supersoft wrote: ... the case against me is horrible. I masoned wbg and told him i am going to mason L. I even softclaimed masoning L in the thread. Why would I do all this. He didn't even respond me. Please be so kind to explain why masoning L exonerates you in any way. Claiming to mason someone who later flipped red, and not having any proof that you actually did so proves nothing and sure as hell doesn't say you are town aligned. These can still be the actions of either a town mason or a mafia mason. | ||
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glurio you need to fill the gaps here and prove your innocence through actions moving forward. You are being watched now and you need to make steps towards finding mafia going forward. If you are intimidated and feel your role is useless you still have the option to press for your questions to be answered in this thread. BC what was the irrelevant question that he asked you? This is a good time to start getting some information about both his and your intentions. | ||
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BC's recent actions are now clearly contradictory and we need to do everything we can to garnish more information about his intentions ASAP. I am going to reemphasize that my case against supersoft is no less credible than that against kingjames. What now makes my case more valuable is the information is gives us on BC which is going to be absolutely vital moving forward into the next few days of this game. I want to urge everyone to ##vote Bill Murray and v##vote supersoft this is an opportunity that can't be passed up. BM has practically dug his own grave and now BC finds himself in a major pickle. | ||
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On January 21 2012 04:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote: How am I contradictary? Your case on SS is weak. I am calling glurio out yet I have not said "lets all off this player". If you notice I said the lynch on supersoft was not viable at this point based on the information provided. I have not said lynch glurio. How am I at all being contradictory? As for your case against supersoft being as good as kingjames, I would strongly disagree. You did your initial analysis off 1 post while ignoring the rest. How is that stronger than a case against kingjames who has been analyzed by 3 players, and in one analysis he was shown to be misrepresenting himself on what he claimed to be doing, and was out and out doing dickall to help the town? You have not made overt statements that blatantly contradict themselves but you are dealing with two players in incredibly similar situations. Both of these people claim to be masons. Both of them have questionable plays as masons. supersoft's grand contribution as a "town mason" is discussing the lynch of a townie (Palmar) with WBG and supposedly attempting to mason L to no avail. glurio comes out now after having not even used his day 1 mason (which was actually a better use than what supersoft did after all) and then he tried to mason you but you wouldn't respond (this isn't even his fault, and it is actually confirmable unlike supersoft's story). Both have not been actively playing with the town's interests in mind in the end though. Yet, you choose to disregard my case but jump on glurio out of the blue when there are plausible explanations for his behavior. I analyzed one post I thought was his strongest tell. While I will agree this along isn't as compelling as a contrived multi-quote analysis, I did read through his filter and saw nothing to lead me away from my suspicions and next to nothing that looked like pro-town behavior. I fail to see how the number of players doing analysis weakens my personal work. I have not been campaigning like you, before today my thread presence wasn't something incredible. So I don't necessarily inspire mass support immediately. But I don't think that should be used against me. Again, I don't deny that Kingjames is suspicious at all, but honestly have you seen supersoft's defense posts? Have you seen them? They are a wet tissue. Not even good enough to withstand a sneeze. His reaction to scrutiny has been the polar opposite of Kingjames but just as damning in my opinion. If you acknowledge the similarity between supersoft and glurio you CANNOT deny that a lynch of supersoft says a lot about your alignment. And this is something we as town need to be very sure of going forward. This is what makes this lynch better than kingjames and something that can't be ignored any longer. | ||
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People should not forgive for contradictions and conflicts of interest. Which is what I believe we have uncovered in your discrepancy in handling the supersoft/glurio situations. This would be a way more damning tell than a mistaken lynch that any town could make. | ||
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This is what kills me. You and BC have gone back to that post and you don't address his current behavior at all. He is rolling over and dying here, if only someone would put the noose in my hand with votes we could lynch him and he still would remain apathetic to the end, he still wouldn't care about yesterday's lynch, and he still wouldn't care enough to defend himself. | ||
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p4NDemik
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I know I'm up against a tough road here. BC isn't going to give me his vote on supersoft that is for sure at this point, please don't let some kind of mafia old boys club obscure your thinking and disregard my case. This goes to the rest of the town. Trust what you think is the best choice at this point in the game please don't sheep behind these vets just because you haven't seen me play before. | ||
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