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On January 17 2012 07:17 kingjames01 wrote:
Bill Murray:
You incarcerated Lanaia during Night 1. Why did you choose her? Also, why do you think you saved her from death? She received no such notification.
Do you believe that the mafia joined the election Day 1 and do you think that they succeeded to take at least one of the roles?
Have you taken also precautions so that in the event of BC and/or your early demise, the Bodyguards will be revealed to the thread?
Better question. Bill, Why did you use "incarcerate" It's limited 3 time use. What made you think it was good to use it on lanaia rather then saving it?
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Things I don't like about our Bill Murray.
Since the start he have felt pretty strongly that Sandroba was scum. Why? Because sandroba wanted to lynch ciryandor. Even after ciryandors flip which didn't slow him down the least he kept going after sandroba.
About people who have flipped we know that Bill Murray was against Mattchew, initially wanting to lynch him as part of his campaign. And he claimed Ciryandor was a townie.
On January 16 2012 14:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I am pretty sure I saved Lanaia from being killed last night
+ Show Spoiler +On January 15 2012 21:52 Bill Murray wrote:Town
supersoft
Cyber_Cheese
Toadesstern
Adam4167
Foolishness
Nisani201
EchelonTee
Jayjay54
L
Liquid`Sheth
kitaman27
BloodyC0bbler
Kurumi
p4NDemik
Meapak_Ziphh
wherebugsgo
Dont want to lynch:
VisceraEyes
Jitsu
Mr. Wiggles
~OpZ~
Ciryandor
Jackal58
hiro protagonist
GiygaS
BrownBear
Where have you been? Wouldn't mind lynching these lurkers:
igabod
zeks
evantrees
Chaosquo
Cwave
Slardar
rgTheSchworz
Scamp
glurio
rtgICEMAN
Maxella
blahz0r
GGQ
Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!:
Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito)
sandroba
risk.nuke
Munk-E
scumatlarge
Lanaia
Macpo
Mafia
What is this? You say you think you saved lanaia? I thought you firmly belived lanaia was scum.
Sorry what? I really don't feel like you're sticking to the same story. Potentially yes you could had thought hmm, 1 kp is missing, and roleblocks aren't likely to have lowered the kp so theoreticly yes someone could had tried to shoot lanaia and you could had reached the conclusion that someone shot the person you incarnated. BUT comeon you claim you were sure lanaia was scum so what's the rush. You know there is the possibility of medic saves. So why did you so quickly say you are pretty sure they hit lanaia. I could understand a "fyi, I used incarnate on lanaia tonight". But I can't understand how you would go from lanaia i scum to lanaia took a hit. Here is my theory.
You are scum. You knew they didn't hit lanaia. Instead you were worried that maybe a townie who jailed someone and see's 1 kp is missing would had informed the town that they had used incarnate and specculated that they might had shot that person. Assuming they had used it on someone they thought likely to be town. I don't belive your story because you overdid it. You say you targeted a person you think is mafia and then you claim too belive they took a hit. If I had used it on someone I thought was scum (Which is [stupid=aka-antitown] in itself to begin with) I would not swiftly assume that person had taken a hit. After a while if nobody claimed a hit, sure then I might be inclined to belive it.
On January 17 2012 10:10 Bill Murray wrote:
WBG I am trying to jail to lower their KP
Say L was roleblocked and Lanaia was jailed
WHAT IF BOTH ARE MAFIA?
That would explain why we had 3 mafia KP last night, and not 4
i am CERTAIN 1 of OpZ or BC are mafia, now, and who else to elect mayor if not the mafia jack?
Then apparently you don't have one theory you deem more likely then the others. Instead you derp around claiming everything from lanaia took a hit too lanaia could had lowered scum kp. You really just don't have any idea what would the best thing to claim so you claim it all. Damn derping imo. It just looks so stupid when you read it.
Then there is the potential scumslip where you accidently say the mafia have 1 mason which ViceraEyes brough up before.
Conclusion: Besides having stacked up on scumpoints. I want to lynch this liar who can't decide what story to stick to.
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On January 18 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:fail on my part, sorry mr nuke 
No harm done 
What do you think of Bill Murray?
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On January 18 2012 01:50 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 01:44 risk.nuke wrote:On January 18 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 18 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:On January 18 2012 01:26 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 18 2012 01:15 risk.nuke wrote:
##unvote: Protactinium
##vote: Bill Murray why is that risky? what did convince you? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=108#2141And please, call me nuke. risk is more similar to a clantag so it would be more correct and make it easier for me since people use the word "risk" quite alot in mafia. fail on my part, sorry mr nuke No harm done What do you think of Bill Murray? I certainly think that at least one of the three mayor candidates is scum. The vote had so little interference. Furthermore, I think hydra is town. => BM and/or BC scum. What I think of BC is common knowledge. BMs latest action made no sense, you got a point there. The thing is, they make no sense from a scum perspective either. Even as a scum sheriff there's no reason to waste a jailtown without reason. He basically acted like a mad scientist and is probably gone insane or trolling. I don't know about scum though, because, like I said, those actions were neither town nor scum favoured.
Wrong. while you could argue whether his motive makes sense for scum or town, they were in the end were scum favored.
If he were scum: Using the power on a townie hoping to block a possible heal/check but also wasting one use which means we can not use it in a later situation. Possibly in a town controlled way. Say when we get confirmed townies we want to protect.
If he were Town: Why would he use it on lanaia after arguing she is scum. Blocking potential dt checks or vig hits for the slim chance of actually preventing a mafia move. Consider it's probably just roleblocker and framer who would suffer from it. Godfather Goon and Mason nothing happens. And the jack is limited use anyway.
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On January 18 2012 19:02 Bill Murray wrote:
GG scum
we lynch Protactinium and BC tomorrow and we are guaranteed 1 scum, bringing their KP down
Is this a joke?
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On January 18 2012 19:42 Bill Murray wrote:
Not at all
Are you trying to tell me you don't believe mafia had someone running for election?
I think it should be painfully clear if you read my filter which candidate I belive is scum.
Some of your defenders have said I don't want to lynch into office yet, and lets face it. The fact that you're sheriff is the only reason you didn't die instead of macpo and not already nailed to die tomorrow. And then you suggest going for BC, AND protactinum which is basicly killing two vets who seems far less suspicious then yourself. Your post is ment to be wifom. I'm 90% sure on you beeing red and fairly sure one out of the two you mentioned are red because you said it like that.
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BM, you're not sticking to your story with lanaia. You claimed you used incarnate to protect her after you had claimed you belived she was scum. You keep changing the reasoning for why you incarnated her which is stright out lying. Now you just tried to buy me of by calling me townie. You've seen good things from me today? The only things I've done recently is cases on you which you should think is terrible if you were a townie...
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BC, are you dumb or scum, a 50 man game and you want to limit the protection to two potentially strong townies when their alignment isn't even confirmed.
Medics, ignore the shit out of BC.
This is my idea instead.
Medics. Go with your own gut. Who do you think will likely be targeted by the mafia? & Who could be wise to keep alive? In my opinion every medic should basicly make up a small list with people who fulfills one or both of these criteria. And pick OR random a name from there.
Furthermore the town should agree on two people and have Bill Murray wifom incarnate between them. Obviously that means this medics, if these names are on your list you exlcude them from your list this night.
The point is to potentially block kills and frighten the mafia to target the weak townies because the strong townies could have protection.
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On January 19 2012 07:52 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2012 07:47 risk.nuke wrote:
BC, are you dumb or scum, a 50 man game and you want to limit the protection to two potentially strong townies when their alignment isn't even confirmed.
Medics, ignore the shit out of BC.
This is my idea instead.
Medics. Go with your own gut. Who do you think will likely be targeted by the mafia? & Who could be wise to keep alive? In my opinion every medic should basicly make up a small list with people who fulfills one or both of these criteria. And pick OR random a name from there.
Furthermore the town should agree on two people and have Bill Murray wifom incarnate between them. Obviously that means this medics, if these names are on your list you exlcude them from your list this night.
The point is to potentially block kills and frighten the mafia to target the weak townies because the strong townies could have protection. Though I tend to generally agree to this plan, I am afraid this plan has the fatal flaw that our sheriff is red and mafia will know whos gonna be jailed... the part where I agree: medics don't focus on two people
Well if they hit 1 of the incarnated 2 and no kp is missing that wouldn't look very good for Murray would it?
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On January 19 2012 08:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Scum also love to make blanket statements about what scum love to do. :D
lol, this is funny on two levels. :D
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So toad what do you think of the plan, It kind of looks like it will be ignored untill the night is over which is a shame. Because everyone who is hee lurking should either yay or ney it. And discuss with murray which two people to wifom incarnate assuming he shows up.
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What to think about toads vet claim, it's possible one of the vigs who died tonight shot him.
It's also possible that he is simply lying about it after he saw two dead vigs and figured it was pretty safe that nobody could prove he was lying.
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On January 20 2012 00:24 jaj22 wrote:
@Lanaia: You want Bill to blow up two of Foolishness/Protact/BC?
Fuck it, he could be the jack just wanting to use his nightkill. BM dies today.
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Good jay, I was waiting for someone to point out the hatter claim.
On other notes.
There are damn too many lurkers who doesn't participate in any discussion. Everytime I look at the roaster I'm chocked.
I'm not sure yet if I want to double lynch tomorrow or not.
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We have plenty of good targets. I'm going to analyse a few players today. Example rgtSchwors, Kingjames and Slardar.
For now Bill Murray is the one obvious choice. He is just desperate to survive another day I don't buy his MH claim. It's too impossibly stupid to be true. And there is much bullshit in his posts.
Toad gained some early townpoints with me which is why I don't want to lynch him today,+ Show Spoiler + I'd prefer not to post the post but I will if requested.
On the other hand I don't buy his vet claim and he has never been correct with alot of reads before which makes me suspicious of him. I'm leaning not lynching him but not by much,
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I lied. Watchmen is best graphic novel.
I'll vote for bm and someone else.
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Eh wht the fuck is sandroba beeing voted? Have I seriously missed something?
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I need to know what's fucking going on about sandroba? His tunneling after he announced he wanted to lynch ciryandor if he won the election.
--> No new evidence has been added <-- (or have I missed something)
People keep tunneling him with the only case beeing his playstyle.
wanting to lynch red + nothing = lynch... NO, Sandroba voters. you're going to first take your vote of him NOW. And then TELL the thread why the shit you were voting for him or I'll have your heads!!
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Let me tell you what happend.
Scum decided BM was doomed, and decided to just go along with it to avoid suspicion. Which caused a few townies unease because everyone were agreeing on BM (aka seemed to easy). Combination with BM's bullshit-claim, which is just the worlds worst dumbest lie. Because you don't let yourself get elected mayor as a Mad Hatter to begin with. It's like getting elected when you're a veteran... ONLY MUCH WORSE. The only reason he bloody said it was fearmongering that we might loose protact who was looking pro-town. Comeon If he actually were a mad hatter why on earth would he even had set a bomb on protect. And do you think he would had missed the damn second night action if he had an that important role? LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES, + Show Spoiler +
And 15 votes on sandroba. What? Where is the reasoning and logic to support 15 votes. the guy is leading jesus. and you're worried about reds wagoning BM!!
+ Show Spoiler +
Townies, get of Sandroba or start singing why? Because if sandroba flips town I'll be going after sandroba voters with apocalyptic fury.
TLDR: Get the damn votes back on BM & get your damn votes off sandroba or give me a satisfying reason to lynch him.
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