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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
 This game really brought home to me that scumhunting isn't the only important thing as town, particularly when you already have excellent scumhunters giving you names. Quelling paranoia, explaining the actions of veterans, calming people down and directing them away from tunnelling implausible lynch candidates all contribute to a constructive town atmosphere. I'd have done twice as much of that except I was worried about spamming myself | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
On January 25 2012 01:07 syllogism wrote: Well it was hard to believe his team would let him jail lanaia. It really makes less sense from scum perspective than town Yeah, I thought the obvious choice there was to jail Ciryandor or Macpo to protect them from vigs, as saving the jails for later as town made sense. I guess Bill really didn't read the scum KP table. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
To wrap it up I want to address some players: @toad: wow your reads were good. Nice! A little hint, try to avoid that sad smiley, it kind of seems weak and vulnerable and a hint of scummy. I knew you were town, but yeah…just saying @BM: you played like a freaking madmen which is fine I guess, everyone was saying “that’s just BM being BM”. I really think you would’ve been a lot more difficult to read if you wouldn’t have lanaia jailed. That made no sense, if you wanted to look town. After your second claim, it was too late. @BC: Sorry for being such a pain the first couple of days, I really thought you were scum. At least my read that one of you or sandroba was scum d2 was right and I defended you afterwards. You are very hard to read. I like that. @kita: <3 <3 <3 medi buddy. We kind of synched up after I saved you! Didn’t really help, but good choice, bro! @jackal: holy clutch play batman. Kudos for that genius shot! You got balls of steel. @VE: seriously man, chill. The only reason why I thought you were town, is because of your uncontested shot and Opz (who was scum to me) soft attacked you a couple of times. But you attacked everyone who said something against you beyond reason. You also repeated yourself a lot and refused to see other possibilities than your own. (hiro DT, CC, me). All in all, I almost lost my mind talking to you at some points @lurkers: stop lurking that hard. @all: sorry about my language errors. I don’t usually derp around this much, but it was in the middle of the night most of the time and I was tired. Sorry Finally shoutout to mafiascum wiki. Without it, I wouldn't have lasted one day. Alright guys, it’s been heaps of fun! I already signed up BC’s new game and I intend to become a regular. Hope you don’t mind <3 See you around guys ________________________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer: This last part here is about my play only. Ignore it if you don't care  This was my first mafia game ever and I never played in real life either. As I want to improve a lot, I want to state what I thought of my game and would be VERY glad if some players would give me feedback pms how to become better! Please do so, if you feel like it. What I did good imo: a) Confirming myself as a townie. That worked, almost no one thought I was scum. b) Medic play, I concealed my role good and am fairly happy with my protect choices and my save. c) Talking. I talked a lot. What I messed up imo: a) My reads. Most of them weren’t as good. b) Defending against nearly every small accusation c) Talking. I talked too much. Again, please shoot a pm real quick with one or two sentences and I’ll try to get better! Cheers <3 inb4: edit ban | ||
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
Sheth picked up on that.That goes to show sc2 players are not that stupid. I kept bussing partly because it was inevitable, partly to make cases down the line stronger. I realize it's not simple to get out of your cell as mafia and go finger random guys.Even if you think like a townie, I felt that there were a few subtleties I couldn't grasp. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 25 2012 01:27 rgTheSchworz wrote: As scum I think I played quite badly. Sheth picked up on that.That goes to show sc2 players are not that stupid. I kept bussing partly because it was inevitable, partly to make cases down the line stronger. I realize it's not simple to get out of your cell as mafia and go finger random guys.Even if you think like a townie, I felt that there were a few subtleties I couldn't grasp. Playing scum is hard. Harder than being a townie. You are the hunted. Hiding is next to impossible. That's the reason a lot of first time scum lurk. They think they're hiding. But really the best way to play is to hide in plain sight. Disagree with people. Push cases on town lurkers. Put out your own reads. Even on a teammate. Lie. Lie Lie. | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
Surprised mafia didn't shoot jayjay as he was clearly the sanest highly active poster and obviously town. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 25 2012 01:48 Jackal58 wrote: I should probably apologize for posting while drunk but I won't. Just as long as you keep your vig shots sober while I'm town, you're forgiven  | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5261 Posts
jayjay's play was really good. he's going to be great sometime. All in all I had a lot of fun, hope I didn't harm people's experience by low activity levels. was awesome seeing super protown in action. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On January 25 2012 01:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Just as long as you keep your vig shots sober while I'm town, you're forgiven I thought we concluded. Drunk Jackal is best Jackal. | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 25 2012 02:18 EchelonTee wrote: Well played town. I only had a few hours day to day to read and analyze; I really didn't contribute much but my vote, as my reads were pretty abysmal. I was quite sure sandroba/bm were town D1/2, and the only reads I was sure of were town views on kita, meapak, CC, Adam, etc. Easily enough town gods foolishness/incog/BC destroyed the Mafia.... in big games, if the mafia plays terribad, lowly inexperienced analysts such as myself aren't really needed. I had some posts prepared at various points in the game, but just looking over them I realize that stepping back and letting the town's well oiled machine run was better than mucking up things. I established my own town status decently enough; honestly was trying to look like a lurking blue but ah well. jayjay's play was really good. he's going to be great sometime. All in all I had a lot of fun, hope I didn't harm people's experience by low activity levels. was awesome seeing super protown in action. You were one of the people I wanted to talk to BC about if he masoned me. Along with Opz, Nisani, glurio, BrownBear and Lanaia. I knew Bum was scum the second he suggested I offed my own GF for townie points. Only pissed off scum would say that. I don't think I was even aware munk E was in the game. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5261 Posts
On January 25 2012 02:48 Jackal58 wrote: You were one of the people I wanted to talk to BC about if he masoned me. Along with Opz, Nisani, glurio, BrownBear and Lanaia. I knew Bum was scum the second he suggested I offed my own GF for townie points. Only pissed off scum would say that. I don't think I was even aware munk E was in the game. mm yeah my play wasn't very pro town so I was surprised I wasn't under more suspicion. Though I did a lot more psuedo analysis in my last game as scum; if anyone wanted to meta me, I was being quite different than my scum. I'm pretty sure someone post suspicion on munk-e but after a while it didn't even matter. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5261 Posts
On January 25 2012 01:09 jaj22 wrote: rgTheSchworz: For what it's worth you were the least suspicious mafia on my list This game really brought home to me that scumhunting isn't the only important thing as town, particularly when you already have excellent scumhunters giving you names. Quelling paranoia, explaining the actions of veterans, calming people down and directing them away from tunnelling implausible lynch candidates all contribute to a constructive town atmosphere. I'd have done twice as much of that except I was worried about spamming myself that's a pretty good point, I probably should've done more of that pro town activity >< bah | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
On January 25 2012 02:52 EchelonTee wrote: mm yeah my play wasn't very pro town so I was surprised I wasn't under more suspicion. There were plenty of worse town players out there. Personally I had you down as town for your 50 minute flop on Sandroba from strong scum to town. I couldn't imagine a scum player doing that, regardless of Sandroba's alignment. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On January 25 2012 01:37 jaj22 wrote: I found Sheth a really easy meta-read, as I had him down as obvscum on day 1 in both his scum games and he was a lot less spammy and more constructive in this one. Wasn't at all surprised when mafia shot him, although it was probably a defensive shot like the ones on Toad and VE. Surprised mafia didn't shoot jayjay as he was clearly the sanest highly active poster and obviously town. Was not defensive. Bum shot him because Bum thought he was blue. Not because he was targeting me. We were not scared of Sheth. Well, atleast specifically, I was not scared of Sheth. (til he popped vig....that scared me....like, so close to death I was lol.) | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On January 25 2012 02:20 jaj22 wrote: lol @ Mattchew tunnelling me in the ObsQT. I don't think you know what tunnelling means | ||
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evantrees
Canada497 Posts
On January 24 2012 21:48 Mattchew wrote: SOPA demands that you credit me or TL is going down lol Sorry, and yeah wtf we had two jacks and they had none. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Lol game's over nvm. you're still an idiot, VE. | ||
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