[15:02] <supersoft> scumteamt meeting in here or what' up?
[15:02] <Toad|> it' always that crowded
[15:02] <supersoft> ok
[15:02] <supersoft> let's start
[15:02] <Toad|> only eran is new to me
[15:02] <supersoft> give me your email
[15:02] <supersoft> and I'll send you something
[15:02] <Toad|>
THAT IS MY EMAIL YOU SPAMMERS[15:02] <Toad|>
E-MAIL CENSORED BY SOPA[15:02] <supersoft> so that we can work on it simultaneously
[15:04] <supersoft> who died tonight?
[15:04] <supersoft> well
[15:04] <supersoft> icognito+
[15:05] <Toad|> ggq
[15:05] <Toad|> protact
[15:05] <Toad|> scamp
[15:05] <supersoft> ggq
[15:05] <supersoft> k
[15:05] <Toad|> already send the file?
[15:06] <Toad|> haven't got a thing
[15:06] <supersoft> ok now
[15:06] <supersoft> just updated it
[15:06] <supersoft> those are 3 lists I started early on
[15:06] <supersoft> I wanted to talk about those with the ones I masoned
[15:06] <supersoft> unfortunately
[15:06] <supersoft> I picked L and sandroba
[15:07] <supersoft> Those two weren't exactly as cooperative
[15:07] <supersoft> as I thought
[15:07] <supersoft> and both died pretty fast
[15:07] <supersoft> well
[15:07] <Toad|> I've still got my problems with VE
[15:08] <Toad|> that guy gives me the creeps
[dit.cc says it's "to lose it" but that's not really what I was saying][15:08] <supersoft> ok wait
[15:08] <supersoft> my plan is
[15:08] <supersoft> every guy
[15:08] <supersoft> who did something good
[=protown][15:08] <supersoft> gets out of that list
[15:09] <Toad|> good like found mafia or like the guy posts protown?
[15:09] <supersoft> yeah exactly
[15:09] <supersoft> anyway
[15:09] <supersoft> who claimed what?
[15:10] <supersoft> Ve was joat right?
[15:10] <Toad|> hiro / erandorr are DT and confirmed townie I guess
[15:10] <supersoft> jitsu glurio and BC are mason
[15:10] <supersoft> yeah
[15:10] <supersoft> got that as blue in my list
[15:10] <supersoft> have you gotten my list btw?
[15:10] <Toad|> yeahyeah
[15:11] <supersoft> well
[15:11] <supersoft> I made everyone white in my list
[15:11] <supersoft> except for eran and kita
[15:12] <supersoft> kita is town for me
[15:12] <supersoft> because he run for mayor early on
[15:12] <supersoft> and cyri attacked him early on
[something stronger than attack perhaps][15:12] <supersoft> and said he'd much rather have sandroba or palmar
[15:12] <supersoft> palmar is town
[15:12] <Toad|> yeah
[15:13] <supersoft> and somehow it wasn't really foreseeable that he's not running for mayor
[?!?that's what he said][15:13] <supersoft> and sandroba flipped mafia
[15:13] <Toad|> think kita is town as well and I'm only having a single problem with one of his posts
[15:13] <supersoft> which one?
[15:13] <Toad|> think he posted early on something along the lines "I won't give you tipps on how to play a blue role or that you should not use your vig-shot n1" in his campaign
[15:13] <Toad|> something like that
[15:14] <supersoft> yes
[15:14] <supersoft> well
[15:14] <Toad|> implies pretty hart that he is actually just doing it
[15:14] <supersoft> that's usual gossip
[15:14] <Toad|> especially with all the blue-sniping in here
[15:14] <supersoft> yeah that's right. They haven't killed a mason yet
[15:14] <supersoft> well that's kind of obvious
[15:14] <supersoft> because I assume
[15:14] <supersoft> that all their masons claimed
[15:14] <supersoft> and if they start shooting townmasons
[15:15] <supersoft> only mafia masons will be left over
[15:15] <supersoft> which obviously would suck
[15:15] <Toad|> yeah
[15:15] <Toad|> but weird
[not realy but don't know how to translate that] how many vigs already died
[15:15] <supersoft> that'S why I think that at least one out of glurio + jitsu is mafia
[15:15] <Toad|> someone knows what he's doing
[15:16] <supersoft> 3 vigs right?
[15:16] <supersoft> another important thing
[15:16] <Toad|> think so
[15:16] <supersoft> did incognito interline some weird reads?
[15:17] <Toad|> well he gave some reads he didn't really back up
[15:17] <supersoft> ok whatever
[15:17] <supersoft> look at jayjay
[15:17] <supersoft> what do you think?
[15:17] <Toad|> jayjay is clear town imo
[15:18] <supersoft> good
[15:18] <supersoft> same here
[15:18] <Toad|> tries to help, seems to be new but he also seems to be open with what he says
[15:18] <supersoft> p4ndemic
[15:18] <supersoft> (apart from him falling in love with me)
[15:18] <Toad|> p4n seems a little strange. I think it's the same as jj but he's overdoing it a little bit.
[15:18] <supersoft> yes
[15:19] <supersoft> besides
[15:19] <Toad|> I'd say town as well
[15:19] <supersoft> let's put this log online
[15:19] <supersoft> so that jayjay can read this
[15:19] <supersoft> and noone else understands it
[plan failed][15:19] <Toad|> yeah
[15:19] <supersoft> :D
[15:19] <Toad|> kk
[15:19] <supersoft> quite convenient
[15:19] <supersoft> it's like masoning him as well at the same time
[15:19] <Toad|> :D
[15:20] <supersoft> ok next
[15:20] <supersoft> WBG
[15:20] <Toad|> well wbg is obviously hard for me
[15:20] <Toad|> talking about staying neutral on him
[15:21] <supersoft> try saying something objective
[15:21] <supersoft> I got my own thoughts about him
[15:21] <supersoft> :D
[15:21] <supersoft> I've got to test you a little bit as well :D
[15:22] <Toad|> well I think he's tunneling a lot, thinks he's right with everything he says and therefor doesn't listen to other people at all
[15:22] <Toad|> but that's what he does as townie
[15:22] <supersoft> yeees
[15:22] <supersoft> ok
[15:22] <supersoft> what wbg does
[15:22] <Toad|> I read his filter and besides him tunneling me so much because he doesn't think I'm able to get that d1 read on palmar, I've got nothing that makes him look mafia
[15:22] <supersoft> when he's mafia
[15:22] <supersoft> he kisses up to people
[that's what dict.cc says!][15:23] <Toad|> well yeah like I mentioned, yes extremly strange and if we find ourselves in a spot like we found 8 mafias and don't know who to lynch next I'm up for a lynch
[15:23] <Toad|> but unless that happens I'd say town
[15:24] <supersoft> ok
[15:24] <supersoft> I had the same feeling
[15:25] <supersoft> that he's a townie
[15:25] <supersoft> what I don't like about him
[15:25] <Toad|> well I'm just remembering something
[?!?][15:25] <Toad|> he too did one single post I did not like
[15:25] <supersoft> yes
[15:25] <supersoft> that one post in which he mentiones the three of us
[15:25] <supersoft> let' me take a look
[15:25] <supersoft> that post is extremly strange
[15:25] <Toad|> somewhere he posted "sandroba said 'toad, SS und wbg need to get off my balls'"
[15:25] <Toad|> exactly
[15:25] <supersoft> haha yes
[15:26] <supersoft> I have to take a look
[15:26] <supersoft> if he's referring to you
[15:26] <Toad|> feels extremly contrived [u][?[]/u] as if tries to get towncred
[15:26] <supersoft> and says he's wrong about you
[15:26] <supersoft> yes
[15:26] <supersoft> something like that
[15:26] <supersoft> wait
[15:26] <supersoft> could be he worde it strange and meant something different
[15:27] <Toad|> yeah it just totaly stands out for me
[15:27] <Toad|> he's been after me for 3 days
[15:27] <Toad|> out of nowhere suddenly posts "oh apropos, that's making us 3 look really good"
[15:27] <Toad|> and continues to tunnel me
[15:27] <supersoft> yes
[15:27] <supersoft> no
[15:28] <supersoft> that's badly worded
[15:28] <supersoft> he tries to use it as an argument
[15:28] <supersoft> against us
[15:28] <Toad|> got a link?
[15:28] <supersoft> because it makes us look mafia
[15:28] <supersoft>
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=60039¤tpage=All[15:28] <supersoft> bottom 10%
[15:28] <supersoft> of that page
[15:29] <Toad|> why's my ctrl+f not working anymore?
[15:30] <supersoft> I quoted it
[15:30] <supersoft> and asked him
[15:30] <supersoft> what he wanted to say
[15:31] <supersoft> let's wait
[15:31] <supersoft> how he responds
[15:31] <supersoft> net one
[15:31] <Toad|> yes
[15:31] <supersoft> risk.nuke
[15:31] <Toad|> so if he really wants to say it makes the three of us look good that'S bad for him
[15:31] <supersoft> what do you say?
[15:31] <Toad|> hard one, had a d1 read
[15:31] <Toad|> d1 town read
[15:31] <supersoft> ok
[15:31] <Toad|> simply because I don't believe a mafia would run a campaign like that
[15:32] <supersoft> same here
[15:32] <supersoft> yes
[15:32] <supersoft> risk.nuke is not really clever
[15:32] <supersoft> but nonetheless pretty confident
[15:32] <supersoft> somehow his activity his dropping rapidly right now
[15:32] <Toad|> yeah
[15:32] <supersoft> might be because this game's so big
[15:33] <supersoft> he's probably a little overwhelmed
[15:33] <Toad|> since d3 I got some mafia vibes from him
[15:33] <supersoft> and can't find a guy to tunnel
[15:33] <supersoft> yeah doesn't have to be that way
[15:33] <supersoft> I'd say town
[15:33] <supersoft> simply useless
[15:33] <Toad|> well the problem with that d1 read is that if he's really mafia
[15:33] <supersoft> that'd mean he's good
[15:33] <supersoft> :D
[15:33] <Toad|> someone else could have told him to run that campaign
[15:33] <supersoft> no
[15:34] <supersoft> he did that on his own
[15:34] <supersoft> because
[15:34] <supersoft> it's clear
[15:34] <supersoft> noone is going to vote him
[15:34] <supersoft> idk, why should mafia send someone like that to run for mayor
[15:34] <supersoft> if he's not going to matter
[15:34] <supersoft> basicly that was this kind of an action
[15:34] <Toad|> well to confuse people like us :p
[15:34] <supersoft> that noone but he himself understands
[15:34] <supersoft> yes
[15:34] <Toad|> but I think there's no sense in what I said
[15:35] <Toad|> they've got the risk to instantly lose a mafia buddy
[15:35] <supersoft> yes
[15:35] <supersoft> he's just like that
[15:35] <Toad|> anf if it works out they got a newby that looks like a townie, wohoo
[15:35] <supersoft> in electionmafia
[15:35] <supersoft> ist er auch total steil gegangen
I really have no idea how to translate that one[15:35] <supersoft> because he thought I bussed 3 of my teammates
[15:36] <supersoft> how ever you'd call that in german
"bussed"[15:36] <supersoft> "ans messer geliefert"
<--- teh german[15:36] <supersoft> just to get some towncred
[15:36] <supersoft> that boy
[15:36] <supersoft> is just beyond good and evil
[15:36] <Toad|> oh, since this is german I don't have to look out who I'm insulting right?
[15:37] <Toad|> except for jayjay: if you're reading this, you're awesome :3
[15:37] <Toad|> but yeah, risk is a town read for me, not the best one but I'd say I'm right there
[15:38] <supersoft> by the way
[15:38] <supersoft> am reading
[15:38] <supersoft> opz is mason as well
[15:38] <Toad|> do you have some sort of special order in which we're talking about people?
[15:38] <Toad|> yes
[15:38] <supersoft> well no
[15:38] <supersoft> it's random
[15:38] <supersoft> just suggest the next one
[15:39] <Toad|> only vets and lurker left...^^
[15:39] <supersoft> fuck
[15:39] <Toad|> I've got my problems with nisan
[15:39] <supersoft> yes
[15:39] <Toad|> what do you say?
[15:39] <supersoft> that's the kind of guy you can just lynch whenever
[15:39] <Toad|> because I can't judge this guy, at all
[15:39] <supersoft> no question
[15:41] <supersoft> you said somewhere
[15:41] <supersoft> you're blue
[15:41] <Toad|> am VET
[15:41] <Toad|> if that's what you're referring too
[15:41] <supersoft> "I know I'm blue as well"
[15:41] <Toad|> I claimed that within the thread
[15:41] <supersoft> k
[15:41] <supersoft> understood
[15:41] <supersoft> come on
[15:41] <supersoft> I'm not getting all those claimes in time [u][don't know, like it's too many claims][u]
[15:42] <supersoft> who claimed as well
[15:42] <Toad|> yes
[15:42] <Toad|> I wrote them all down
[15:42] <Toad|> but I can't use ctrl+f for some reason. If I could I'd just seearch "claim"
[15:43] <supersoft> yeah don't sweat it
[15:43] <supersoft> okay
[15:43] <supersoft> ok
[15:44] <Toad|> now it's starting to get hard :p
[15:44] <supersoft> seems like we have to get through all the lurkers
[15:44] <supersoft> w
[15:44] <supersoft>
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=52329[15:44] <Toad|> I'd say lanaia is town as well
[15:44] <supersoft> go
[15:44] <supersoft> yes
[15:44] <supersoft> that girl
[15:44] <supersoft> :D
[15:44] <supersoft> so funny
[15:44] <supersoft> in a nother game I...
[15:44] <Toad|> well she's so wishy-washy
[15:44] <supersoft> YES
[15:44] <supersoft> that's her all the time
[15:44] <Toad|> with little self confidence as far as I can see
[15:44] <supersoft> :D
[15:45] <supersoft> yesyesyes
[15:45] <supersoft> cute
[15:45] <Toad|> she did the same as town in XLVIII
[15:46] <supersoft>
[censored by sopa!]:p
[15:46] <Toad|> oh
[15:46] <Toad|> 8(
[15:47] <Toad|> yeah thought you're already at jaj22
[15:47] <supersoft> noo
[15:47] <supersoft> take a look
[15:47] <supersoft> at what he posts about sandroba
[15:47] <supersoft> yeah
[15:48] <Toad|> when did he join the game?
[15:48] <Toad|> d2?
[15:48] <supersoft> oh
[15:48] <supersoft> who did he replace?
[15:48] <supersoft> that's fucked up
[15:48] <supersoft> :D
[15:48] <supersoft> I thought
[15:48] <supersoft> lolol he's starting the game with a defense on sandroba and macpo
[15:49] <Toad|> don't know who he replaced right now
[15:49] <Toad|> wait think I got that post somewhere
[15:50] <Toad|> well seems like no
[15:50] <supersoft> nevermind
[15:50] <supersoft> anyways
[15:50] <supersoft> he'S defending two mafias
[15:51] <supersoft> and nails GGQ
[15:51] <supersoft> without any analysis
[15:51] <Toad|> yeah
[15:51] <Toad|> but that already made you and wbg think I'm mafia
[15:52] <Toad|> well I thought jaj22 is town until now
[15:52] <supersoft> doesn't look like it
[15:52] <supersoft> when reading the filter
[15:52] <supersoft> :D
[15:52] <Toad|> also when he said "@Toad: You know this isn't a majority lynch, right? I don't see any town reason to vote for someone you think is town this early."
[15:52] <Toad|> yu think a mafia would post something like that?
[15:53] <Toad|> mafia want to place their vote somewhere and he's telling me it's not extended majority?
[15:54] <supersoft> uh
[15:54] <supersoft> well idk
[15:54] <supersoft> why not
[15:55] <supersoft> it's just general talk
[15:55] <supersoft> that's always easy as mafia
[15:55] <Toad|> probably
[15:55] <supersoft> as if someone would do that
[15:55] <supersoft> it's always like that
[15:55] <supersoft> when someone does a plan
[15:55] <supersoft> that's never really going to happen
[15:55] <Toad|> well he asks a lot of questions
[15:56] <Toad|> isn't afraid to attack someone
[15:56] <supersoft> wait where
[15:56] <Toad|> well he at leasts says a couple of times that I'm talking bullshit
[15:57] <supersoft> yes
[15:57] <Toad|> talking about modhunting
[15:57] <supersoft> well,
[15:57] <supersoft> you'll see
[15:57] <supersoft> it's getting to hot for him somewhere over here
[15:57] <supersoft> he changes sides and starts attacking sandroba
[15:57] <supersoft> and that's it with his activity
[15:57] <supersoft> :D
[15:57] <supersoft> yes
[15:58] <supersoft> what do you say about orange?
[15:58] <supersoft> as a prestage to mafia?
[15:58] <Toad|> "
[15:58] <Toad|> What? Toad was trying to protect his scumbuddy GGQ and get his scumbuddies Sandroba and Macpo lynched instead? I don't buy the Palmar lynch influence knowledge point because it's quite plausible that Toad just jumped to a conclusion. I don't think it's even an illogical conclusion from the "compromise" post."
[15:58] <Toad|> after protacts case against me
[15:58] <Toad|> because protact said I'm mafia, sandroba is mafia, ggq is mafia and macpo is mafia
[15:58] <Toad|> which just doesn't make sense at all
[15:58] <supersoft> geht
[idk][15:58] <supersoft> lol
[15:59] <Toad|> but fine, orange is fine with me
[15:59] <Toad|> god, now I have to know who he replaced
[16:00] <supersoft> yes
[16:00] <supersoft> right
[16:00] <supersoft> I'm confused as well
[16:00] <supersoft> zeks?
[16:01] <Toad|> lol
[16:01] <Toad|> both asked at the same time
[16:01] <supersoft> that was stupid
[16:01] <supersoft> well actually
[16:01] <Toad|> know everyone knows you masoned me
[16:01] <supersoft> we're going to post the log anyways
[16:01] <Toad|> well everyone who read your log will know that anyways
[16:02] <supersoft> possibly ^-^
[16:02] <supersoft> I'm posting this log for jayjay. Maybe he can already contribute something.
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