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On January 22 2012 23:46 jaj22 wrote: Yeah, the only question is whether it tells us anything about BM's alignment. I'm not sure that it does. quick question: need to know who you replaced. could you do me the favor and tell me? :p | ||
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On January 23 2012 00:57 p4NDemik wrote: If you germans can, and are willing to put in the effort, I'd appreciate it if you all translate to cross check for any inconsistencies and help determine your alignment. If you want to be shown as town this is a great opportunity. there's a probably some stuff in there that's better not translated. Like supersoft psoted my emai... wohoo 1k spammails tomorrow, 500 of them being jackal saying "bling bling toad". But yeah I'll consider it once we're done. | ||
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On January 23 2012 01:12 p4NDemik wrote: Toadesstern I now know your email as well as everyone else in the game. Emails fucking translate regardless of language why is this a reason for you not wanting to translate it? Don't be lazy and don't be scummy. Translate it. Or at least summarize it. You are looking more and more red. I'm just saying I might want to censor something in there like my email, just that that's no longer possible :p | ||
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You claimed joat and I thought early on it's a fake because you tried to day-vig someone with a made up kill-command. If you are not a dayvig there is no command in your pm to kill someone, therefore you can't know a killcommand and your kill command completly bogus. My read d1 was "either VT/VET trying to get shot or a mafia joat/mason who can prove his joat if he has too with awesome mason powers". So that's one thing that bothers me. Next thing: You claimed joat yet you never claimed to be roleblocked and as far as I can see you never claimed a shot. Why did you not shoot? vig's are dropping like flies and you are not shooting? the fuck? Also, why did noone roleblock you? Because mafia thought (like I did) you're a guy trying to block a hit? That means you're either a VT or a VET to them if they did not roleblock you. Funny sidenote: You claimed to be shot. Why do they shoot you with a single (!) when they think you're a VT OR a Vet? Why not doublestack or roleblock+shoot you? I think you look townie this game but this whole story stinks and you're either as green as you can get or as red as you can get. Sadly I don't know which one yet. | ||
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We won't publish the logs yet because we thought it's a good idea to not give away ALL of our reads just yet, especially the town ones. I'll reread the first log and consider afterwards if I'm going to translate it yet. | ||
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On January 23 2012 02:56 Jayjay54 wrote: just stopping by. he claimed to be shot same day as you did iirc. and shots were missing indeed. no time to check myself...got to finish application I know. That's the reason I'm giving him a chance to explain himself instead of just lynching him. Another thing supersoft asked me was if protact had some hidden reads about people. Like people he checked and tried to breadcrum. I was not able to find something, if you're able to see something tell me. If there's nothing I'd say he either checked GGQ or me. Notice how he was fosing me HARDCORE and at some point in time just stopped and said "don't sweat it, you're town bro" or something like that? Same about GGQ. Protact fosed both of us and I find my explanation plausible but of course that's biased because I'm talking about myself :p | ||
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On January 23 2012 03:08 jaj22 wrote: My scum-VE theory hinged on BM jailing a scum-GGQ on night 2 to protect him from vigs, and I don't have another theory that makes much sense. Surely mafia wouldn't deliberately blow their 4th KP just to give VE a bit of towncred? You're right that it looks weird as hell. Medics covering VE? Mason but no shots from VE? yeah. If BM is townie he could have locked up a townie. I asked him and he did not answer... I don't really know about the 4th shot. Shooting a mafia who is about to be modkilled and even if not modkilled he's about to get lynched is really only wasting a shot. Therefore they could get 1 or maybe even 2 mafias to look like confirmed townies. I think they might have done that with VE but I thought and still think Jackal is town. So for now it's only a fos on VE. Nevertheless I still want to know what's going on in VE-land. | ||
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On January 23 2012 03:27 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: Bill Murray ##Vote: Double-Lynch WBG still scum, Toad looking really bad for continuing to doubt my claim. BM still gotta die. Thank you, that is all. the fuck. Just explain why you did not shoot and why you never got roleblocked... | ||
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On January 23 2012 03:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not in the business of killing townies. I prefer to kill scum. My votes reflect that. I'm not sure enough in my reads this game to use the vig power. I masoned BC for the reason that I've been giving all game which is: I hate the fact that we can't DT check BC and I wanted to get a read on him. To me, that's important. Now, clearly you believe my claim - you really wanna go down the road of berating me for my action choices? You'd be calling me scum right now if I'd hit a townie with a vig-shot, now you wanna call me scum for not shooting? I'm calling you a mafia that's afraid to shoot into someone because he has to explain why he shot the guy in the first place. No I would not call you scum if you shot people like Munk-E, Slardar, opz or glurio if one of them flipped green. Yeah shooting into a vet that flipped green would be suspicious but not trying to reduce mafia KP at all really looks weird to me. So no, not shooting at all is way more weird to me than someone who shoots into a lurker that turns out to be a green. | ||
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On January 23 2012 07:00 rgTheSchworz wrote: Jaj22, I thought that he would get RB.But then scum have to use RB every night on him. Now i'm not so sure 3-4 nights of roleblocking are worth a doublestack. they're sniping blues because they think they're blue although they don't know it. That's the difference. If they knew they were blue before the flip they could rb them as well but they don't so rb someone once is not going to be helpful because you have to do the same thing again and won't know shit. | ||
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On January 23 2012 07:42 jaj22 wrote: There are other reasons that VE may not have been roleblocked: 1. Mafia thought VE was probably lying. 2. Mafia thought VE was probably a veteran trying to draw hits. This was dispelled by night 2, I think. 3. Mafia thought VE was likely to shoot a townie. 4. Mafia didn't want to reveal their roleblocker so that they could throw suspicion on a DT or medic later. 1) yeah if they thought so they would have thought it's #2 2) yeah if they thought THAT they would have rb-ed him while shooting because rb eliminates the 2nd live 3) that could be true 4) everyone knows mafia has 1 RB as far as I can see. | ||
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On January 23 2012 07:49 Jackal58 wrote: No it doesn't Mafia Roleblocker Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked, and if the person being blocked has a night action, he or she will not be able to use it. Please note that this ability only pertains to active actions. Passive abilities, such as the Veteran's extra lives, cannot be blocked by mafia. OH, i did not know that | ||
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