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<BloodyC0bbler> and I helped force said wagon
<BloodyC0bbler> correct
<BloodyC0bbler> Won't dispute that
<BloodyC0bbler> till jackal claimed
<BloodyC0bbler> the vig shot on L
<BloodyC0bbler> id have been on hims super hard today
<VisceraEyes> I mean, me too
<VisceraEyes> You saw my pre-dawn list
<BloodyC0bbler> however, I don't claim in my posts
<BloodyC0bbler> that I tried to stop protrac/sandro
<BloodyC0bbler> voters
<BloodyC0bbler> like meapak did
<BloodyC0bbler> the only "dont vote for these two guys" posts he had was that he wanted ggq offed
<BloodyC0bbler> but he has a post indicating those 3
<BloodyC0bbler> as the only lynch choices
<VisceraEyes> God, if you're town
<VisceraEyes> Then I may live the night
<VisceraEyes> That would be hilarious
<VisceraEyes> Because my reads are way off
<VisceraEyes> Like usual
<BloodyC0bbler> mine are lining up
<BloodyC0bbler> with foolishness and incog
<BloodyC0bbler> we have slight differences on reads
<BloodyC0bbler> like i had jackal
<BloodyC0bbler> so did incog
<BloodyC0bbler> foolishness didnt
<BloodyC0bbler> shit like that
<VisceraEyes> Where do they stand on BM?
<VisceraEyes> They're deafeningly silent this cycle so far too
<BloodyC0bbler> as of day 2
<BloodyC0bbler> red
<BloodyC0bbler> however the trend this day
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked
<VisceraEyes> Foolish has verbally doubted it
<BloodyC0bbler> hes also gainign votes
<VisceraEyes> I don't know if that was a reaction thing
<BloodyC0bbler> faster than anyone else
<BloodyC0bbler> which screams bandwagon
<BloodyC0bbler> and near no one is defending him
<BloodyC0bbler> which screams mafia are fine with the death
<VisceraEyes> The arguments are compelling though
<BloodyC0bbler> oh dont get me wrong
<BloodyC0bbler> they are
<BloodyC0bbler> but its bm
<VisceraEyes> It is
<BloodyC0bbler> its like trying to off chez
<VisceraEyes> I'm new here
<BloodyC0bbler> with logical arguments
<VisceraEyes> And I know about BM
<BloodyC0bbler> him claiming hatter
<BloodyC0bbler> and running for office
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked up
<VisceraEyes> Oh I need a favor from you
<VisceraEyes> Not game related.
<VisceraEyes> I need you to tell me that Feast for Crows is worth it.
<VisceraEyes> Because I'm about 1/5 the way through the book
<VisceraEyes> And I'm about to put it down
<VisceraEyes> I've got a buddy who's read it
<VisceraEyes> And he can't do it.
<VisceraEyes> He can't bring himself to tell me it's worth it.
<VisceraEyes> Because he honestly can't remember.
<VisceraEyes> And I believe him after what I've read.
<BloodyC0bbler> feast is the 4th one correct?
<VisceraEyes> ya
<VisceraEyes> The Ciersi/Brienne show
<VisceraEyes> Ya
<BloodyC0bbler> first read I thought it was near terribad, second read I thought it was actually good
<BloodyC0bbler> the biggest issue with it is
<BloodyC0bbler> the only "cool" point of views
<BloodyC0bbler> are arya and jaime
<VisceraEyes> Jaime and
<VisceraEyes> Ya
<BloodyC0bbler> the book itself isnt terrible
<VisceraEyes> And they're like, every 10th section
<BloodyC0bbler> as it tells alot of important story
<VisceraEyes> The way Bran was in the third book and shit
<VisceraEyes> Ugh
<VisceraEyes> Okay
<BloodyC0bbler> and is needed for dance
<BloodyC0bbler> to make sense
<VisceraEyes> That's what I needed.
<VisceraEyes> Because I need to read Dance of Dragons
<VisceraEyes> Mainly because there are characters I need to hear from again
<VisceraEyes> But I won't just skip 4 if it's important.
<VisceraEyes> Anyway
<VisceraEyes> Thx for that
<VisceraEyes> Just needed encouragement where that's concerned...these Brienne chapters are wearing on me.
<BloodyC0bbler> not a problem
<BloodyC0bbler> oh her chapters
<BloodyC0bbler> suck balls
<BloodyC0bbler> most uninteresting character
<BloodyC0bbler> ever
<BloodyC0bbler> as a note
<BloodyC0bbler> who are your current main scum reads?
<VisceraEyes> I don't even know.
<VisceraEyes> I need time
<VisceraEyes> Um
<VisceraEyes> I'm really not liking Toad
<VisceraEyes> I mean
<VisceraEyes> WBG
<VisceraEyes> He talks a big game
<VisceraEyes> But if he's town he's failing hard.
<VisceraEyes> HARD
<BloodyC0bbler> doesn't he normally fail hard
<BloodyC0bbler> as town?
<VisceraEyes> I don't know
<BloodyC0bbler> He was failing a fuck ton in GM's big game
<VisceraEyes> I just got back remember?
<VisceraEyes> I don't even know the guy.
<VisceraEyes> Except he's good at LoL
<VisceraEyes> *shrug*
<VisceraEyes> You know it's funny how glaringly town someone can be posting and so abysmally scummy they can be with their thought-process and reads.
<VisceraEyes> I love being me.
<VisceraEyes> I make games fun.
<VisceraEyes> I don't care what anyone says.
<VisceraEyes> See you've screwed up all my reads.
<VisceraEyes> Bum isn't doing shit
<VisceraEyes> But apparently Meapak is scum
<VisceraEyes> And he's calling out Mepak
<VisceraEyes> So I don't know anymore
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> thing is analysis
<BloodyC0bbler> is friggen tedious
<BloodyC0bbler> fucking work
<VisceraEyes> Yeah, I'm finding that
<VisceraEyes> But the thing is
<VisceraEyes> I don't know what the thing is
<VisceraEyes> My other mason went MIA
<VisceraEyes> He'll probably show up when I start making sense again.
<VisceraEyes> *shrug*
<VisceraEyes> Again for the first time
<VisceraEyes> And who the fuck is this p4N guy?
<VisceraEyes> Has he been around here before?
<VisceraEyes> He plays like he's played here forever
<VisceraEyes> Does he play at the live events with those guys?
<VisceraEyes> Or some shit?
<VisceraEyes> I'll tell you who else give off a "Fake-New" vibe
<VisceraEyes> JayJay
<VisceraEyes> Like, go back to his first post in game.
<VisceraEyes> Same shit that Macpo got called on
<VisceraEyes> Except
<VisceraEyes> HE is actually capable of carrying on an argument
<VisceraEyes> Even if it's a stupid one, he gives the illusion that he actually believes it.
<VisceraEyes> Hell he might
<VisceraEyes> But his conviction is...disturbing.
<VisceraEyes> Go read our back and forth.
<VisceraEyes> VE vs JJ
<VisceraEyes> It's dumb...and interesting at the same time
<VisceraEyes> I still can't figure him out.
<BloodyC0bbler> i think he plays at live events (p4n)
<BloodyC0bbler> jj
<BloodyC0bbler> was going ape shit on my nuts
<BloodyC0bbler> for awhile
<BloodyC0bbler> i just started to ignore him
<VisceraEyes> Well thanks, cause he then went apeshit on my nuts.
<VisceraEyes> Let me ask you
<VisceraEyes> Honesty
<VisceraEyes> Hey
<VisceraEyes> HEY
<VisceraEyes> HONESTY
<VisceraEyes> ALIGNMENT FREE
<VisceraEyes> OKAY?
<VisceraEyes> Is my CC case nothing but OMGUS?
<VisceraEyes> It goes back there - back in the failClaim D1 days
<BloodyC0bbler> CC seems
<BloodyC0bbler> townie
<BloodyC0bbler> tbh
<VisceraEyes> Yea I know
<VisceraEyes> But my case dude
<BloodyC0bbler> link me to exact post
<BloodyC0bbler> mind is currently on dealing with the KJ troll
<VisceraEyes> Yeah
<VisceraEyes> Um
<VisceraEyes> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13141955
<VisceraEyes> Oh Bill's triumphant return.
<VisceraEyes> He's such a waste
<VisceraEyes> This game
<VisceraEyes> Like, the only thing that even saves him is he MIGHT be scum
<VisceraEyes> If he's scum, he's actually doing some good for his faction.
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> yea
<BloodyC0bbler> hes just annoying
<VisceraEyes> Awesome
<VisceraEyes> I'm gonna go smoke a bowl and fuck my wife then
<VisceraEyes> Cause this games got nothin for me at this point
<BloodyC0bbler> kk
<VisceraEyes> Really I'm just gonna go staple some shit and head home
<VisceraEyes> THEN those other things
<VisceraEyes> But yeah, gotta finish up at work
<VisceraEyes> We'll chat again before dusk
<VisceraEyes> I still don't know if you're town or not.

<VisceraEyes> Ah well.
<BloodyC0bbler> if its any consolation
<BloodyC0bbler> i pride myself in being unreadable
<BloodyC0bbler> as it took me forever to do ---
<VisceraEyes> Will you at least tell me whether you'd know if /I/ was town based on this conversation if you didn't know/don't know?
<VisceraEyes> Oooooooo
<VisceraEyes> That took too long
<VisceraEyes> Peace dude.
<BloodyC0bbler> id say likely town
VisceraEyes> *tag*
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<VisceraEyes> What are your thoughts on BMs "bomb"?
<VisceraEyes> Should we not lynch him to keep Protact alive?
<VisceraEyes> Why isn't Protact super active in-thread if he has a bomb on him?
<VisceraEyes> These are questions you should think about.
<VisceraEyes> Also consider how much you actually trust these guys who "found" newbie scum D1.
<VisceraEyes> If you're town anyway.
<VisceraEyes> I'm going to work - will probably be back in chat at....6p EST
<BloodyC0bbler> tbh
<BloodyC0bbler> bm's bomb seems fucked
<BloodyC0bbler> as i doubt town would have more kp
<BloodyC0bbler> than mafia
<BloodyC0bbler> in a single night
<BloodyC0bbler> as for why protrac isn't active? no clue at all
<BloodyC0bbler> same thing with foolishness
<VisceraEyes> Vote for WBG
<VisceraEyes> Tired of this shit
<VisceraEyes> i don't know who to trust
<VisceraEyes> So I'm going with my reads
<VisceraEyes> Andnot give a fuck if they're wrong.
<VisceraEyes> Like the vets do.
<VisceraEyes> I think WBG is scum
<VisceraEyes> I'ma get him lynched
<VisceraEyes> If he's not, then people opposing his lynch for no reason
<VisceraEyes> Are scum
<VisceraEyes> Because he hasn't contributed in a meaningful way and there's no way to have a TOWN read on WBG at this point
<VisceraEyes> Unless one has prior knowledge
<BloodyC0bbler> -_- p4ns logic
<BloodyC0bbler> is astouding
<BloodyC0bbler> because I said his case on supersoft wasn't viable for the day
<BloodyC0bbler> i must be red for defending ss if ss flips red
<BloodyC0bbler> however
<BloodyC0bbler> i defended p4n
<BloodyC0bbler> so by same logic
<BloodyC0bbler> p4n must be red if im red
<BloodyC0bbler> do people even think about their posts -_-
<VisceraEyes> People put a lot of stock in association
<VisceraEyes> Maybe too much.
<VisceraEyes> I'm guilty of the same
<VisceraEyes> Hell, it's what sold you to me in that last PM game you owned me
<VisceraEyes> Association alone
<VisceraEyes> Vote WBG
<VisceraEyes> Make him come defend himself.
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> why is kingjames
<BloodyC0bbler> only concentrating
<BloodyC0bbler> on p4n
<VisceraEyes> Why are you only concentrating on KJ?
<VisceraEyes> I mean, srsly guy
<VisceraEyes> Vote WHEREBUGS GO
<VisceraEyes> An' I'm out.
VisceraEyes> Psh
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<VisceraEyes> I didn't see a KJ lynch
<VisceraEyes> but whatever.
<VisceraEyes> KJ's case on p4N was good.
<VisceraEyes> You're scum. But I know you're too good for me to get lynched.
<VisceraEyes> First I'm gonna get WBG lynched. Then I'm gonna get kita lynched.
<BloodyC0bbler> My result was wrong, however if you relook at kj's posts you'd understand why I pushed so gd hard. However, I am aware nothing I say will convince you otherwise as such I am not going to. I will say this, your welcome on pushing sandro for you
<VisceraEyes> You're well aware you could change my mind
VisceraEyes_> Maybe you can help me out with this
<VisceraEyes_> Protact said WBG was "a nonsensical lynch"
<VisceraEyes_> Why?
<VisceraEyes_> Sandroba was getting modkilled
<VisceraEyes_> That's something else
<VisceraEyes_> It can't have escaped your notice that Sandroba was getting modkilled BC
<VisceraEyes_> We absolutely wasted our DL
<BloodyC0bbler> relying on someone to be modkilled
<BloodyC0bbler> is -_-
<BloodyC0bbler> one red flipped
<BloodyC0bbler> a player who even after this game ends
<BloodyC0bbler> I will argue was anti town as hell
<BloodyC0bbler> is dead
<BloodyC0bbler> I am honestly in disbelief at the kj flip =\
<VisceraEyes_> Why though?
<VisceraEyes_> I don't get it
<VisceraEyes_> I didn't get your case at all
<BloodyC0bbler> what did he do
<BloodyC0bbler> all game
<BloodyC0bbler> that was pro town?
<BloodyC0bbler> he outright
<BloodyC0bbler> did fuck all
<BloodyC0bbler> everything he called p4n out for
<VisceraEyes_> So? What has bum done?
<BloodyC0bbler> he infact was guilty of
<BloodyC0bbler> bum hasn't done a few thigns
<BloodyC0bbler> i associate with a red
<BloodyC0bbler> bumb
<BloodyC0bbler> bum*
<VisceraEyes_> What has WBG done?
<BloodyC0bbler> i have to reread his filter (wbg) that is
<VisceraEyes_> You know what he's done
<BloodyC0bbler> no I mean as in
<BloodyC0bbler> his tells
<VisceraEyes_> He pushed Palmar D1 and called Toad an idiot
<VisceraEyes_> That's all he's done
<VisceraEyes_> He isn't interested in helping town
<BloodyC0bbler> have you played a game
<BloodyC0bbler> with him
<BloodyC0bbler> where hes been red
<BloodyC0bbler> before?
<BloodyC0bbler> or know of one
<VisceraEyes_> No
<BloodyC0bbler> that he was?
<VisceraEyes_> No
<VisceraEyes_> He mentioned onoe
<VisceraEyes_> Actually
<VisceraEyes_> When I asked
<VisceraEyes_> Nono
<VisceraEyes_> I asked for one where he was town
<VisceraEyes_> And Palmar was scum
<VisceraEyes_> To try and convince GiygaS that WBG was NOT scummy... -.-
<VisceraEyes_> Oh
<VisceraEyes_> MLP he was scum
<VisceraEyes_> Ninja actually
<BloodyC0bbler> mlp?
<VisceraEyes_> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263036&user=60039
<VisceraEyes_> My Little Pony
<VisceraEyes_> He was the lesbo pony
<BloodyC0bbler> is it just me
<BloodyC0bbler> or does he seem far more subdued
<BloodyC0bbler> in the filter you just linked me
<BloodyC0bbler> and in L
<BloodyC0bbler> compared to
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=60039
<BloodyC0bbler> you need to learn to be more vocal

<BloodyC0bbler> i don't think you are actually wrong atm
<BloodyC0bbler> bleh
<VisceraEyes_> I know I'm not
<VisceraEyes_> when he's town
<VisceraEyes_> He's all about trying to figure shit out
<VisceraEyes_> in this game he's just going with his gut and meta
<VisceraEyes_> it's fucking bullshit
<VisceraEyes_> and transparent as hell
<VisceraEyes_> Like, if he'd responded to my attempt to draw him out
<VisceraEyes_> by defending him
<VisceraEyes_> But he didn't at all
<BloodyC0bbler> reading his friggin filter
<BloodyC0bbler> the only person he "pushed" was palmar
<BloodyC0bbler> and givein day 1 (only day 1) he pulled
<BloodyC0bbler> a mofo roba
<BloodyC0bbler> play
<BloodyC0bbler> appear "townie" day 1 then fuck off
<BloodyC0bbler> god damnit
<VisceraEyes_> It only gets better
<VisceraEyes_> Wait til you get to the part where he starts arguing with toad
<VisceraEyes_> He goes on and on about how toad isn't trying to help find scum
<VisceraEyes_> Toad almost loses it
<VisceraEyes_> It's like actually a really good scum move, toad lost credibility with that blowup
<VisceraEyes_> Just like I did earlier tonight
<VisceraEyes_> If I push WBG, he walks tomorrow
<VisceraEyes_> I'm just that paranoid idiot that mafia want dead
<BloodyC0bbler> read foolishness'
<BloodyC0bbler> current general reads
<BloodyC0bbler> -_- i think hes more or less
<BloodyC0bbler> right
<BloodyC0bbler> wbg deff should be on the list
<BloodyC0bbler> however
<VisceraEyes_> The strange part
<VisceraEyes_> Is that Protact called WBG a "nonsensical lynch"
<VisceraEyes_> Those were his words
<VisceraEyes_> Why?
<BloodyC0bbler> that was from earlier today correct?
<VisceraEyes_> Okay you agree with Foolish list
<VisceraEyes_> What makes MunkE a good lynch?
<BloodyC0bbler> all his posts
<BloodyC0bbler> of "content"
<BloodyC0bbler> dont really say
<BloodyC0bbler> fuckall
<BloodyC0bbler> he analyzes people
<BloodyC0bbler> hes sheep voting on
<BloodyC0bbler> for one day
<BloodyC0bbler> then he analyzes
<BloodyC0bbler> 3 main election candidates
<BloodyC0bbler> concludes
<BloodyC0bbler> protract is town
<BloodyC0bbler> does a chunk of analysis on me
<BloodyC0bbler> and basically says
<BloodyC0bbler> im red
<VisceraEyes_> All 2 of them?
<BloodyC0bbler> but never calls me it
<BloodyC0bbler> then in like
<BloodyC0bbler> 4 lines
<BloodyC0bbler> sums up bm as red
<BloodyC0bbler> he then again
<BloodyC0bbler> analyzes bm
<BloodyC0bbler> and doesnt on roba
<BloodyC0bbler> both of which he sheep voted for
<VisceraEyes_> Oh and on the Protact thing
<VisceraEyes_> That was near the end of the day
<VisceraEyes_> Right after you left
<VisceraEyes_> Just before he left
<BloodyC0bbler> looking for it now
<VisceraEyes_> And I wanted your opinion on something else
<VisceraEyes_> This is serious and I want you to entertain the notion
<VisceraEyes_> Hiro Protagonist
<VisceraEyes_> Fake-claimed DT
<BloodyC0bbler> where is protracts post
<VisceraEyes_> To solidify the Sandroba lynch
<BloodyC0bbler> saying what you said?
<BloodyC0bbler> im in his filter
<BloodyC0bbler> and his last post was
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=157#3124
<BloodyC0bbler> as for the fake claim
<BloodyC0bbler> it is possible
<BloodyC0bbler> but it means they have planned the fake claim
<BloodyC0bbler> for awhile
<VisceraEyes_> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13220133
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716¤tpage=160#3197 dropping this here for sake of keeping it somewhere
<BloodyC0bbler> ahh i was looking too far down into his filter
<VisceraEyes_> It wasn't even that close to the end of the day
<VisceraEyes_> Like, WBG is more red than KJ by far in my opinion
<VisceraEyes_> At least KJ had a case and believed in it
<BloodyC0bbler> kj did, however only came out
<BloodyC0bbler> when i called him out
<BloodyC0bbler> and he misrepresented himself by far
<BloodyC0bbler> you are correct however
<BloodyC0bbler> wbg looks terrible
<BloodyC0bbler> and My guess on protrac (as i have no clue as his actual thought process) is the analysis
<BloodyC0bbler> you did
<VisceraEyes_> But pushed with it, even under heavy scrutiny by town leadership
<BloodyC0bbler> wasn't at his standards of quality
<BloodyC0bbler> true
<BloodyC0bbler> but he nailed someone in a rush
<BloodyC0bbler> p4n i have a bad town read
<BloodyC0bbler> on
<VisceraEyes_> I don't care about my analysis
<VisceraEyes_> You dismissed WBG as well until you took ONE look at the filter
<BloodyC0bbler> yes, which I didn't do
<BloodyC0bbler> during the day
<BloodyC0bbler> I have already been cursing myself
<BloodyC0bbler> for getting dragged into
<BloodyC0bbler> petty arguments with people via thread
<BloodyC0bbler> and getting distracted
<BloodyC0bbler> Hes also managed to dodge
<BloodyC0bbler> at least 3 suspect lists
<BloodyC0bbler> in mine
<BloodyC0bbler> protracts
<BloodyC0bbler> and foolishness'
<BloodyC0bbler> god i need to sleep. Ill be on tommorrow most of the day as I don't work. I need to get my head clear and start doing indepth reading
<VisceraEyes_> Probably from his whole Palmar push
<BloodyC0bbler> yea
<BloodyC0bbler> his day 1
<BloodyC0bbler> seems normal town him
<BloodyC0bbler> rest of his play
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked
<VisceraEyes_> Anyway, I might be on tomorrow too.
<VisceraEyes_> Maybe not.
<VisceraEyes_> I've all but written this game off
<VisceraEyes_> I've dug myself a hole
<VisceraEyes_> No one's listening to me
<BloodyC0bbler> if you are on, talk to you then, if not, then sorry for being such a massive retard
<BloodyC0bbler> on the wbg front
<BloodyC0bbler> and Honestly
<BloodyC0bbler> the hole you dug
<VisceraEyes_> Meh
<BloodyC0bbler> is something you can get out of
<VisceraEyes_> I'm a retard
<BloodyC0bbler> peace duder
<VisceraEyes_> Later.
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