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<BloodyC0bbler> and I helped force said wagon
<BloodyC0bbler> correct
<BloodyC0bbler> Won't dispute that
<BloodyC0bbler> till jackal claimed
<BloodyC0bbler> the vig shot on L
<BloodyC0bbler> id have been on hims super hard today
<VisceraEyes> I mean, me too
<VisceraEyes> You saw my pre-dawn list
<BloodyC0bbler> however, I don't claim in my posts
<BloodyC0bbler> that I tried to stop protrac/sandro
<BloodyC0bbler> voters
<BloodyC0bbler> like meapak did
<BloodyC0bbler> the only "dont vote for these two guys" posts he had was that he wanted ggq offed
<BloodyC0bbler> but he has a post indicating those 3
<BloodyC0bbler> as the only lynch choices
<VisceraEyes> God, if you're town
<VisceraEyes> Then I may live the night
<VisceraEyes> That would be hilarious
<VisceraEyes> Because my reads are way off
<VisceraEyes> Like usual
<BloodyC0bbler> mine are lining up
<BloodyC0bbler> with foolishness and incog
<BloodyC0bbler> we have slight differences on reads
<BloodyC0bbler> like i had jackal
<BloodyC0bbler> so did incog
<BloodyC0bbler> foolishness didnt
<BloodyC0bbler> shit like that
<VisceraEyes> Where do they stand on BM?
<VisceraEyes> They're deafeningly silent this cycle so far too
<BloodyC0bbler> as of day 2
<BloodyC0bbler> red
<BloodyC0bbler> however the trend this day
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked
<VisceraEyes> Foolish has verbally doubted it
<BloodyC0bbler> hes also gainign votes
<VisceraEyes> I don't know if that was a reaction thing
<BloodyC0bbler> faster than anyone else
<BloodyC0bbler> which screams bandwagon
<BloodyC0bbler> and near no one is defending him
<BloodyC0bbler> which screams mafia are fine with the death
<VisceraEyes> The arguments are compelling though
<BloodyC0bbler> oh dont get me wrong
<BloodyC0bbler> they are
<BloodyC0bbler> but its bm
<VisceraEyes> It is
<BloodyC0bbler> its like trying to off chez
<VisceraEyes> I'm new here
<BloodyC0bbler> with logical arguments
<VisceraEyes> And I know about BM
<BloodyC0bbler> him claiming hatter
<BloodyC0bbler> and running for office
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked up
<VisceraEyes> Oh I need a favor from you
<VisceraEyes> Not game related.
<VisceraEyes> I need you to tell me that Feast for Crows is worth it.
<VisceraEyes> Because I'm about 1/5 the way through the book
<VisceraEyes> And I'm about to put it down
<VisceraEyes> I've got a buddy who's read it
<VisceraEyes> And he can't do it.
<VisceraEyes> He can't bring himself to tell me it's worth it.
<VisceraEyes> Because he honestly can't remember.
<VisceraEyes> And I believe him after what I've read.
<BloodyC0bbler> feast is the 4th one correct?
<VisceraEyes> ya
<VisceraEyes> The Ciersi/Brienne show
<VisceraEyes> Ya
<BloodyC0bbler> first read I thought it was near terribad, second read I thought it was actually good
<BloodyC0bbler> the biggest issue with it is
<BloodyC0bbler> the only "cool" point of views
<BloodyC0bbler> are arya and jaime
<VisceraEyes> Jaime and
<VisceraEyes> Ya
<BloodyC0bbler> the book itself isnt terrible
<VisceraEyes> And they're like, every 10th section
<BloodyC0bbler> as it tells alot of important story
<VisceraEyes> The way Bran was in the third book and shit
<VisceraEyes> Ugh
<VisceraEyes> Okay
<BloodyC0bbler> and is needed for dance
<BloodyC0bbler> to make sense
<VisceraEyes> That's what I needed.
<VisceraEyes> Because I need to read Dance of Dragons
<VisceraEyes> Mainly because there are characters I need to hear from again
<VisceraEyes> But I won't just skip 4 if it's important.
<VisceraEyes> Anyway
<VisceraEyes> Thx for that
<VisceraEyes> Just needed encouragement where that's concerned...these Brienne chapters are wearing on me.
<BloodyC0bbler> not a problem
<BloodyC0bbler> oh her chapters
<BloodyC0bbler> suck balls
<BloodyC0bbler> most uninteresting character
<BloodyC0bbler> ever
<BloodyC0bbler> as a note
<BloodyC0bbler> who are your current main scum reads?
<VisceraEyes> I don't even know.
<VisceraEyes> I need time
<VisceraEyes> Um
<VisceraEyes> I'm really not liking Toad
<VisceraEyes> I mean
<VisceraEyes> WBG
<VisceraEyes> He talks a big game
<VisceraEyes> But if he's town he's failing hard.
<VisceraEyes> HARD
<BloodyC0bbler> doesn't he normally fail hard
<BloodyC0bbler> as town?
<VisceraEyes> I don't know
<BloodyC0bbler> He was failing a fuck ton in GM's big game
<VisceraEyes> I just got back remember?
<VisceraEyes> I don't even know the guy.
<VisceraEyes> Except he's good at LoL
<VisceraEyes> *shrug*
<VisceraEyes> You know it's funny how glaringly town someone can be posting and so abysmally scummy they can be with their thought-process and reads.
<VisceraEyes> I love being me.
<VisceraEyes> I make games fun.
<VisceraEyes> I don't care what anyone says.
<VisceraEyes> See you've screwed up all my reads.
<VisceraEyes> Bum isn't doing shit
<VisceraEyes> But apparently Meapak is scum
<VisceraEyes> And he's calling out Mepak
<VisceraEyes> So I don't know anymore
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> thing is analysis
<BloodyC0bbler> is friggen tedious
<BloodyC0bbler> fucking work
<VisceraEyes> Yeah, I'm finding that
<VisceraEyes> But the thing is
<VisceraEyes> I don't know what the thing is
<VisceraEyes> My other mason went MIA
<VisceraEyes> He'll probably show up when I start making sense again.
<VisceraEyes> *shrug*
<VisceraEyes> Again for the first time
<VisceraEyes> And who the fuck is this p4N guy?
<VisceraEyes> Has he been around here before?
<VisceraEyes> He plays like he's played here forever
<VisceraEyes> Does he play at the live events with those guys?
<VisceraEyes> Or some shit?
<VisceraEyes> I'll tell you who else give off a "Fake-New" vibe
<VisceraEyes> JayJay
<VisceraEyes> Like, go back to his first post in game.
<VisceraEyes> Same shit that Macpo got called on
<VisceraEyes> Except
<VisceraEyes> HE is actually capable of carrying on an argument
<VisceraEyes> Even if it's a stupid one, he gives the illusion that he actually believes it.
<VisceraEyes> Hell he might
<VisceraEyes> But his conviction is...disturbing.
<VisceraEyes> Go read our back and forth.
<VisceraEyes> VE vs JJ
<VisceraEyes> It's dumb...and interesting at the same time
<VisceraEyes> I still can't figure him out.
<BloodyC0bbler> i think he plays at live events (p4n)
<BloodyC0bbler> jj
<BloodyC0bbler> was going ape shit on my nuts
<BloodyC0bbler> for awhile
<BloodyC0bbler> i just started to ignore him
<VisceraEyes> Well thanks, cause he then went apeshit on my nuts.
<VisceraEyes> Let me ask you
<VisceraEyes> Honesty
<VisceraEyes> Hey
<VisceraEyes> HEY
<VisceraEyes> HONESTY
<VisceraEyes> ALIGNMENT FREE
<VisceraEyes> OKAY?
<VisceraEyes> Is my CC case nothing but OMGUS?
<VisceraEyes> It goes back there - back in the failClaim D1 days
<BloodyC0bbler> CC seems
<BloodyC0bbler> townie
<BloodyC0bbler> tbh
<VisceraEyes> Yea I know
<VisceraEyes> But my case dude
<BloodyC0bbler> link me to exact post
<BloodyC0bbler> mind is currently on dealing with the KJ troll
<VisceraEyes> Yeah
<VisceraEyes> Um
<VisceraEyes> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13141955
<VisceraEyes> Oh Bill's triumphant return.
<VisceraEyes> He's such a waste
<VisceraEyes> This game
<VisceraEyes> Like, the only thing that even saves him is he MIGHT be scum
<VisceraEyes> If he's scum, he's actually doing some good for his faction.
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> yea
<BloodyC0bbler> hes just annoying
<VisceraEyes> Awesome
<VisceraEyes> I'm gonna go smoke a bowl and fuck my wife then
<VisceraEyes> Cause this games got nothin for me at this point
<BloodyC0bbler> kk
<VisceraEyes> Really I'm just gonna go staple some shit and head home
<VisceraEyes> THEN those other things
<VisceraEyes> But yeah, gotta finish up at work
<VisceraEyes> We'll chat again before dusk
<VisceraEyes> I still don't know if you're town or not.
<VisceraEyes> Ah well.
<BloodyC0bbler> if its any consolation
<BloodyC0bbler> i pride myself in being unreadable
<BloodyC0bbler> as it took me forever to do ---
<VisceraEyes> Will you at least tell me whether you'd know if /I/ was town based on this conversation if you didn't know/don't know?
<VisceraEyes> Oooooooo
<VisceraEyes> That took too long
<VisceraEyes> Peace dude.
<BloodyC0bbler> id say likely town






VisceraEyes> *tag*
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<VisceraEyes> What are your thoughts on BMs "bomb"?
<VisceraEyes> Should we not lynch him to keep Protact alive?
<VisceraEyes> Why isn't Protact super active in-thread if he has a bomb on him?
<VisceraEyes> These are questions you should think about.
<VisceraEyes> Also consider how much you actually trust these guys who "found" newbie scum D1.
<VisceraEyes> If you're town anyway.
<VisceraEyes> I'm going to work - will probably be back in chat at....6p EST
<BloodyC0bbler> tbh
<BloodyC0bbler> bm's bomb seems fucked
<BloodyC0bbler> as i doubt town would have more kp
<BloodyC0bbler> than mafia
<BloodyC0bbler> in a single night
<BloodyC0bbler> as for why protrac isn't active? no clue at all
<BloodyC0bbler> same thing with foolishness
<VisceraEyes> Vote for WBG
<VisceraEyes> Tired of this shit
<VisceraEyes> i don't know who to trust
<VisceraEyes> So I'm going with my reads
<VisceraEyes> Andnot give a fuck if they're wrong.
<VisceraEyes> Like the vets do.
<VisceraEyes> I think WBG is scum
<VisceraEyes> I'ma get him lynched
<VisceraEyes> If he's not, then people opposing his lynch for no reason
<VisceraEyes> Are scum
<VisceraEyes> Because he hasn't contributed in a meaningful way and there's no way to have a TOWN read on WBG at this point
<VisceraEyes> Unless one has prior knowledge
<BloodyC0bbler> -_- p4ns logic
<BloodyC0bbler> is astouding
<BloodyC0bbler> because I said his case on supersoft wasn't viable for the day
<BloodyC0bbler> i must be red for defending ss if ss flips red
<BloodyC0bbler> however
<BloodyC0bbler> i defended p4n
<BloodyC0bbler> so by same logic
<BloodyC0bbler> p4n must be red if im red
<BloodyC0bbler> do people even think about their posts -_-
<VisceraEyes> People put a lot of stock in association
<VisceraEyes> Maybe too much.
<VisceraEyes> I'm guilty of the same
<VisceraEyes> Hell, it's what sold you to me in that last PM game you owned me
<VisceraEyes> Association alone
<VisceraEyes> Vote WBG
<VisceraEyes> Make him come defend himself.
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> why is kingjames
<BloodyC0bbler> only concentrating
<BloodyC0bbler> on p4n
<VisceraEyes> Why are you only concentrating on KJ?
<VisceraEyes> I mean, srsly guy
<VisceraEyes> Vote WHEREBUGS GO
<VisceraEyes> An' I'm out.




VisceraEyes> Psh
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<VisceraEyes> I didn't see a KJ lynch
<VisceraEyes> but whatever.
<VisceraEyes> KJ's case on p4N was good.
<VisceraEyes> You're scum. But I know you're too good for me to get lynched.
<VisceraEyes> First I'm gonna get WBG lynched. Then I'm gonna get kita lynched.
<BloodyC0bbler> My result was wrong, however if you relook at kj's posts you'd understand why I pushed so gd hard. However, I am aware nothing I say will convince you otherwise as such I am not going to. I will say this, your welcome on pushing sandro for you
<VisceraEyes> You're well aware you could change my mind





VisceraEyes_> Maybe you can help me out with this
<VisceraEyes_> Protact said WBG was "a nonsensical lynch"
<VisceraEyes_> Why?
<VisceraEyes_> Sandroba was getting modkilled
<VisceraEyes_> That's something else
<VisceraEyes_> It can't have escaped your notice that Sandroba was getting modkilled BC
<VisceraEyes_> We absolutely wasted our DL
<BloodyC0bbler> relying on someone to be modkilled
<BloodyC0bbler> is -_-
<BloodyC0bbler> one red flipped
<BloodyC0bbler> a player who even after this game ends
<BloodyC0bbler> I will argue was anti town as hell
<BloodyC0bbler> is dead
<BloodyC0bbler> I am honestly in disbelief at the kj flip =\
<VisceraEyes_> Why though?
<VisceraEyes_> I don't get it
<VisceraEyes_> I didn't get your case at all
<BloodyC0bbler> what did he do
<BloodyC0bbler> all game
<BloodyC0bbler> that was pro town?
<BloodyC0bbler> he outright
<BloodyC0bbler> did fuck all
<BloodyC0bbler> everything he called p4n out for
<VisceraEyes_> So? What has bum done?
<BloodyC0bbler> he infact was guilty of
<BloodyC0bbler> bum hasn't done a few thigns
<BloodyC0bbler> i associate with a red
<BloodyC0bbler> bumb
<BloodyC0bbler> bum*
<VisceraEyes_> What has WBG done?
<BloodyC0bbler> i have to reread his filter (wbg) that is
<VisceraEyes_> You know what he's done
<BloodyC0bbler> no I mean as in
<BloodyC0bbler> his tells
<VisceraEyes_> He pushed Palmar D1 and called Toad an idiot
<VisceraEyes_> That's all he's done
<VisceraEyes_> He isn't interested in helping town
<BloodyC0bbler> have you played a game
<BloodyC0bbler> with him
<BloodyC0bbler> where hes been red
<BloodyC0bbler> before?
<BloodyC0bbler> or know of one
<VisceraEyes_> No
<BloodyC0bbler> that he was?
<VisceraEyes_> No
<VisceraEyes_> He mentioned onoe
<VisceraEyes_> Actually
<VisceraEyes_> When I asked
<VisceraEyes_> Nono
<VisceraEyes_> I asked for one where he was town
<VisceraEyes_> And Palmar was scum
<VisceraEyes_> To try and convince GiygaS that WBG was NOT scummy... -.-
<VisceraEyes_> Oh
<VisceraEyes_> MLP he was scum
<VisceraEyes_> Ninja actually
<BloodyC0bbler> mlp?
<VisceraEyes_> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263036&user=60039
<VisceraEyes_> My Little Pony
<VisceraEyes_> He was the lesbo pony
<BloodyC0bbler> is it just me
<BloodyC0bbler> or does he seem far more subdued
<BloodyC0bbler> in the filter you just linked me
<BloodyC0bbler> and in L
<BloodyC0bbler> compared to
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=60039
<BloodyC0bbler> you need to learn to be more vocal
<BloodyC0bbler> i don't think you are actually wrong atm
<BloodyC0bbler> bleh
<VisceraEyes_> I know I'm not
<VisceraEyes_> when he's town
<VisceraEyes_> He's all about trying to figure shit out
<VisceraEyes_> in this game he's just going with his gut and meta
<VisceraEyes_> it's fucking bullshit
<VisceraEyes_> and transparent as hell
<VisceraEyes_> Like, if he'd responded to my attempt to draw him out
<VisceraEyes_> by defending him
<VisceraEyes_> But he didn't at all
<BloodyC0bbler> reading his friggin filter
<BloodyC0bbler> the only person he "pushed" was palmar
<BloodyC0bbler> and givein day 1 (only day 1) he pulled
<BloodyC0bbler> a mofo roba
<BloodyC0bbler> play
<BloodyC0bbler> appear "townie" day 1 then fuck off
<BloodyC0bbler> god damnit
<VisceraEyes_> It only gets better
<VisceraEyes_> Wait til you get to the part where he starts arguing with toad
<VisceraEyes_> He goes on and on about how toad isn't trying to help find scum
<VisceraEyes_> Toad almost loses it
<VisceraEyes_> It's like actually a really good scum move, toad lost credibility with that blowup
<VisceraEyes_> Just like I did earlier tonight
<VisceraEyes_> If I push WBG, he walks tomorrow
<VisceraEyes_> I'm just that paranoid idiot that mafia want dead
<BloodyC0bbler> read foolishness'
<BloodyC0bbler> current general reads
<BloodyC0bbler> -_- i think hes more or less
<BloodyC0bbler> right
<BloodyC0bbler> wbg deff should be on the list
<BloodyC0bbler> however
<VisceraEyes_> The strange part
<VisceraEyes_> Is that Protact called WBG a "nonsensical lynch"
<VisceraEyes_> Those were his words
<VisceraEyes_> Why?
<BloodyC0bbler> that was from earlier today correct?
<VisceraEyes_> Okay you agree with Foolish list
<VisceraEyes_> What makes MunkE a good lynch?
<BloodyC0bbler> all his posts
<BloodyC0bbler> of "content"
<BloodyC0bbler> dont really say
<BloodyC0bbler> fuckall
<BloodyC0bbler> he analyzes people
<BloodyC0bbler> hes sheep voting on
<BloodyC0bbler> for one day
<BloodyC0bbler> then he analyzes
<BloodyC0bbler> 3 main election candidates
<BloodyC0bbler> concludes
<BloodyC0bbler> protract is town
<BloodyC0bbler> does a chunk of analysis on me
<BloodyC0bbler> and basically says
<BloodyC0bbler> im red
<VisceraEyes_> All 2 of them?
<BloodyC0bbler> but never calls me it
<BloodyC0bbler> then in like
<BloodyC0bbler> 4 lines
<BloodyC0bbler> sums up bm as red
<BloodyC0bbler> he then again
<BloodyC0bbler> analyzes bm
<BloodyC0bbler> and doesnt on roba
<BloodyC0bbler> both of which he sheep voted for
<VisceraEyes_> Oh and on the Protact thing
<VisceraEyes_> That was near the end of the day
<VisceraEyes_> Right after you left
<VisceraEyes_> Just before he left
<BloodyC0bbler> looking for it now
<VisceraEyes_> And I wanted your opinion on something else
<VisceraEyes_> This is serious and I want you to entertain the notion
<VisceraEyes_> Hiro Protagonist
<VisceraEyes_> Fake-claimed DT
<BloodyC0bbler> where is protracts post
<VisceraEyes_> To solidify the Sandroba lynch
<BloodyC0bbler> saying what you said?
<BloodyC0bbler> im in his filter
<BloodyC0bbler> and his last post was
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=157#3124
<BloodyC0bbler> as for the fake claim
<BloodyC0bbler> it is possible
<BloodyC0bbler> but it means they have planned the fake claim
<BloodyC0bbler> for awhile
<VisceraEyes_> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13220133
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=160#3197 dropping this here for sake of keeping it somewhere
<BloodyC0bbler> ahh i was looking too far down into his filter
<VisceraEyes_> It wasn't even that close to the end of the day
<VisceraEyes_> Like, WBG is more red than KJ by far in my opinion
<VisceraEyes_> At least KJ had a case and believed in it
<BloodyC0bbler> kj did, however only came out
<BloodyC0bbler> when i called him out
<BloodyC0bbler> and he misrepresented himself by far
<BloodyC0bbler> you are correct however
<BloodyC0bbler> wbg looks terrible
<BloodyC0bbler> and My guess on protrac (as i have no clue as his actual thought process) is the analysis
<BloodyC0bbler> you did
<VisceraEyes_> But pushed with it, even under heavy scrutiny by town leadership
<BloodyC0bbler> wasn't at his standards of quality
<BloodyC0bbler> true
<BloodyC0bbler> but he nailed someone in a rush
<BloodyC0bbler> p4n i have a bad town read
<BloodyC0bbler> on
<VisceraEyes_> I don't care about my analysis
<VisceraEyes_> You dismissed WBG as well until you took ONE look at the filter
<BloodyC0bbler> yes, which I didn't do
<BloodyC0bbler> during the day
<BloodyC0bbler> I have already been cursing myself
<BloodyC0bbler> for getting dragged into
<BloodyC0bbler> petty arguments with people via thread
<BloodyC0bbler> and getting distracted
<BloodyC0bbler> Hes also managed to dodge
<BloodyC0bbler> at least 3 suspect lists
<BloodyC0bbler> in mine
<BloodyC0bbler> protracts
<BloodyC0bbler> and foolishness'
<BloodyC0bbler> god i need to sleep. Ill be on tommorrow most of the day as I don't work. I need to get my head clear and start doing indepth reading
<VisceraEyes_> Probably from his whole Palmar push
<BloodyC0bbler> yea
<BloodyC0bbler> his day 1
<BloodyC0bbler> seems normal town him
<BloodyC0bbler> rest of his play
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked
<VisceraEyes_> Anyway, I might be on tomorrow too.
<VisceraEyes_> Maybe not.
<VisceraEyes_> I've all but written this game off
<VisceraEyes_> I've dug myself a hole
<VisceraEyes_> No one's listening to me
<BloodyC0bbler> if you are on, talk to you then, if not, then sorry for being such a massive retard
<BloodyC0bbler> on the wbg front
<BloodyC0bbler> and Honestly
<BloodyC0bbler> the hole you dug
<VisceraEyes_> Meh
<BloodyC0bbler> is something you can get out of
<VisceraEyes_> I'm a retard
<BloodyC0bbler> peace duder
<VisceraEyes_> Later.





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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 21 2012 19:52 GMT
#3362
Hey, here's another vig target! Let's keep those medics running.

After looking through his filter, I am sure evantree is scum.

I was goind to make a case, but after I was halfway done, I realized that this is bullshit, because it is so damn boring. He makes so few moves to argue with that it is really uninteresting.

So let me sum it up:

a) ZERO contributions. He actually has some posts, but none contribute scumhunting in any way. He never accused anyone.

b) He softdefends sandro in this post. Just to move on and do the chameleon move of voting KJ and sandro herehere. Without any real reason.

c) Most of his posts are clarification posts. Somebody asks about masons, he's there. Somebody didn't understand DLs he's there. Replacements check? He's always there. The definition of non-contributing contribution.

d) his last posts were 4 one liners without any content.

e) a)

You'll see that his main theme is "contributing without actually contributing". If you don't believe it, go through his filter and see what he did so far.

This is why, evantree is scum! Farewell!
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2012 20:24 GMT
#3363
bum, you were masoned on day two by opz. Could you explain your reasoning for not replying to his pms?

On January 13 2012 14:49 bumatlarge wrote:
AND PLEASE MASON ME. I'll live with not being the mayor, but I love me some masons. Don't worry I'm not infected this game. Then I can share with you my knowledge. Also, I may or may not be batman this game, I feel a surge of confidence after winning the last game.


On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 20:37 GMT
#3364
On January 21 2012 17:33 Foolishness wrote:
Mafia list has to be something like:

Meapak, Munk-E, Bill Murray, evantrees, BrownBear, Kenpachi.

Substitute in glurio, Opz, EchelonTee, vaderseven, Slardar for the ones that flip town.

This is the biggest load of bs I've seen all game. Just a list of people who are relatively inactive. They may be trying to lurk but they are doing very little to influence the game. There are going to be some Mafia exerting influence right now. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant. While these are all suspicious individuals there are those among your circle who are just as suspicious because of actions they have made and the influence they have exerted on the game. Today's actions do nothing to further any of you three in the eyes of town.

You missed on kingjames01: no points either way in my mind because he was tough to read as town in any circumstance but mafia would have jumped over that opportunity once they saw it. It was given to them on a golden platter.

You hit on scandroba: this should not sway townies at all. Despite building a bulletproof case against Bill, one that could have and should have gone to the wire with the way he was acting you switched votes only in the interest of self-preservation of Protactinium. You move your votes onto a mafia member who was completely expendable to their cause. They needed to capitalize on his inactivity and fast. He wasn't coming back (or at least they couldn't be sure of it) and they needed to make use of this in some way. In fact the motives for your actions yesterday more often lead to the point of two or maybe more of your being mafia rather than you all being town aligned.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 20:42 GMT
#3365
On January 21 2012 19:43 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 19:29 hiro protagonist wrote:
-__-

What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum.

I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons...



medics on this guy btw.

Don't listen to a word this guy says. He's looking super red and if you are taking orders from this guy at this point you seriously need to get your head checked.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 20:43 GMT
#3366
I'm just replying to stuff as I go guys will be caught up very soon and when I am there is a lot of analysis to do on yesterday's events.
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jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 21 2012 21:02 GMT
#3367
On January 22 2012 04:52 Jayjay54 wrote:
After looking through his filter, I am sure evantree is scum.
[snip]
a) ZERO contributions. He actually has some posts, but none contribute scumhunting in any way. He never accused anyone.

Yeah. Unfortunately this is exactly how he played in Election Mafia. I'd have had him lynched easily if it wasn't for his proven blue claim (it was a very weak role). I even told him after the game that he needed to start accusing people, so his play here has been very disappointing to me.

I wouldn't vig him personally because the meta gives him a low chance of being mafia, but if he doesn't step up his play soon I'll get angry.

@Evantrees: Three scum reads please. With reasons.

p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 21:03 GMT
#3368
Protact is a dead man walking btw.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 21:04 GMT
#3369
JayJay if you actually read those logs and don't want to lynch Protact right now you are just as red as he is.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 21:09 GMT
#3370
Bill if you believe the logs between sandroba and BC are real don't remove the bomb from Protactinium.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 21:16 GMT
#3371
If you are Mad Hatter at all:

+ Show Spoiler +
[14/01/2012 1:25:21 AM] Sandro Maculan: I'm catching up
[14/01/2012 1:25:25 AM] Sandro Maculan: still on page 40
[14/01/2012 1:25:29 AM] Sandro Maculan: and quite drunk
[14/01/2012 1:26:16 AM] Sandro Maculan: wow
[14/01/2012 1:26:25 AM] Sandro Maculan: proactinum thinks you are scum
[14/01/2012 1:26:34 AM] Sandro Maculan: are you mafia?
[14/01/2012 1:26:44 AM] Sandro Maculan: tell me I wont remember tomorrow
[14/01/2012 1:26:52 AM] Sandro Maculan: i promise not to check logs
[14/01/2012 1:27:17 AM] james: lol
[14/01/2012 1:27:17 AM] james: im not
[14/01/2012 1:27:19 AM] james: protrac
[14/01/2012 1:27:22 AM] james: just outed himself
[14/01/2012 1:27:23 AM] james: hard
[14/01/2012 1:27:23 AM] james: though
[14/01/2012 1:27:27 AM] james: so fucking obvious
[14/01/2012 1:27:41 AM] james: i say this because
[14/01/2012 1:27:42 AM] Sandro Maculan: I really thought he was town though
[14/01/2012 1:27:45 AM] james: if anyone thinks thats mystlord
[14/01/2012 1:27:47 AM] james: they are dumb as hell
[14/01/2012 1:27:48 AM] james: lol
[14/01/2012 1:27:52 AM] Sandro Maculan: from his frist post and second
[14/01/2012 1:28:03 AM] james: the post against me
[14/01/2012 1:28:05 AM] james: is incog
[14/01/2012 1:28:11 AM] james: and incog is firmly in
[14/01/2012 1:28:15 AM] james: the anti pm bandwagon
[14/01/2012 1:28:15 AM] james: for town
[14/01/2012 1:28:22 AM] Sandro Maculan: no
[14/01/2012 1:28:25 AM] james: no i mean
[14/01/2012 1:28:27 AM] Sandro Maculan: he is against the anti pm
[14/01/2012 1:28:29 AM] james: if you talk to him
[14/01/2012 1:28:33 AM] james: outside of this game
[14/01/2012 1:28:35 AM] Sandro Maculan: he thinkis you are for it
[14/01/2012 1:28:37 AM] james: he hates pm
[14/01/2012 1:28:39 AM] Sandro Maculan: and thus mafia
[14/01/2012 1:28:45 AM] james: which is how he outed himself
[14/01/2012 1:28:54 AM] james: his belief in people properly using pms
[14/01/2012 1:28:55 AM] james: is fucking horrid
[14/01/2012 1:29:02 AM] james: fw
[14/01/2012 1:29:04 AM] james: and I
[14/01/2012 1:29:06 AM] james: are the top 2 people
[14/01/2012 1:29:08 AM] james: who like pms
[14/01/2012 1:29:08 AM] Sandro Maculan: man
[14/01/2012 1:29:13 AM] Sandro Maculan: this discussion
[14/01/2012 1:29:13 AM] james: in general
[14/01/2012 1:29:15 AM] james: i hate masons
[14/01/2012 1:29:19 AM] Sandro Maculan: is fucking useless day1
[14/01/2012 1:29:21 AM] james: nah
[14/01/2012 1:29:24 AM] james: incog
[14/01/2012 1:29:25 AM] james: just
[14/01/2012 1:29:26 AM] james: outed himself
[14/01/2012 1:29:29 AM] Sandro Maculan: maybe he is mafia for not realising that
[14/01/2012 1:29:31 AM] james: to me anyway
[14/01/2012 1:29:35 AM] james: to me
[14/01/2012 1:29:39 AM] james: thats a hugeeeee
[14/01/2012 1:29:39 AM] Sandro Maculan: vets are going to get shot the fuck out
[14/01/2012 1:29:40 AM] james: bit
[14/01/2012 1:29:41 AM] james: also
[14/01/2012 1:29:42 AM] Sandro Maculan: fast
[14/01/2012 1:29:43 AM] james: adam
[14/01/2012 1:29:45 AM] james: + wbg
[14/01/2012 1:29:48 AM] james: link to protrac
[14/01/2012 1:29:51 AM] james: so does ciryandor
[14/01/2012 1:29:55 AM] Sandro Maculan: ?
[14/01/2012 1:29:57 AM] james: do i think all are red? no
[14/01/2012 1:29:59 AM] james: but they all link
[14/01/2012 1:30:08 AM] james: protrac has done nothing to garner votes
[14/01/2012 1:30:09 AM] james: but tunnel people
[14/01/2012 1:30:09 AM] Sandro Maculan: man
[14/01/2012 1:30:12 AM] Sandro Maculan: protact
[14/01/2012 1:30:16 AM] james: first people to jump on his nuts
[14/01/2012 1:30:20 AM] Sandro Maculan: if he is mafia he has balls
[14/01/2012 1:30:20 AM] james: with 0 grounds
[14/01/2012 1:30:23 AM] james: well
[14/01/2012 1:30:25 AM] james: it is incog
[14/01/2012 1:30:29 AM] Sandro Maculan: he is the most out there mothefucker
[14/01/2012 1:30:45 AM] Sandro Maculan: you + him are my strongest town reads atm
[14/01/2012 1:30:55 AM] Sandro Maculan: balss =/= mafia
[14/01/2012 1:31:23 AM] Sandro Maculan: even you when red you play more conservatively
[14/01/2012 1:31:31 AM] Sandro Maculan: of course i can be fooled and mistaken
[14/01/2012 1:31:38 AM] Sandro Maculan: but i gotta go with my guts
[14/01/2012 1:31:49 AM] Sandro Maculan: and they say you plus him are town right now

Comes down to if this is real and BC is town or if this is fake and BC is mafia though.

I've gotta read more of sandro's filter but this was before anything had happened and Proact has established town cred by pointing out two mafia. Looks really suspiciouis.
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 21 2012 21:20 GMT
#3372
On January 22 2012 06:02 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 04:52 Jayjay54 wrote:
After looking through his filter, I am sure evantree is scum.
[snip]
a) ZERO contributions. He actually has some posts, but none contribute scumhunting in any way. He never accused anyone.

Yeah. Unfortunately this is exactly how he played in Election Mafia. I'd have had him lynched easily if it wasn't for his proven blue claim (it was a very weak role). I even told him after the game that he needed to start accusing people, so his play here has been very disappointing to me.

I wouldn't vig him personally because the meta gives him a low chance of being mafia, but if he doesn't step up his play soon I'll get angry.

@Evantrees: Three scum reads please. With reasons.



uhm, yeah. First game, so no meta reads from me, sorry

Right now, he doesn't do shit for town, maybe he'll step up now!
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 21 2012 21:22 GMT
#3373
On January 22 2012 06:04 p4NDemik wrote:
JayJay if you actually read those logs and don't want to lynch Protact right now you are just as red as he is.


Did I miss something? Why is your post straight up at me?

I read the entire log, there was some noob bashing (I died a little inside ), but other than that?

Can you point out what you exactly mean?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Protactinium
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada550 Posts
January 21 2012 21:26 GMT
#3374
On January 21 2012 17:33 Foolishness wrote:
Mafia list has to be something like:

Meapak, Munk-E, Bill Murray, evantrees, BrownBear, Kenpachi.

Substitute in glurio, Opz, EchelonTee, vaderseven, Slardar for the ones that flip town.

On January 21 2012 17:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Foolishness amend the list please. I strongly believe atm WBG has a high chance of flipping red.

I would place glurio higher on your list. I also believe that based on play, opz is far more likely to be red.


Disagree here.

I don't see why Meapak is a strong case yet. I'm sticking with

Bill Murray
OpZ
bumatlarge

Don't see wbg either. His play fits his town play more than mafia even if he is wrong a lot.

Then go on to inactives.

I don't think Kenpachi is red based on L's statements suggesting that Kurumi shot Ciryandor. I'm going to guess that L truly did think Kurumi would shoot Kenpachi, and thus didn't roleblock him that night, but it backfired (nobody else claimed the Ciryandor shot). L also was pushing Kenpachi strangely, so it doesn't fit strongly in my book.

evantrees feels town to me for his earlier response to my accusation. It feels pretty spontaneous and unplanned.

Everyone else is fair game.

Bill Murray dies tomorrow, and we vote for double lynch. OpZ and bumatlarge die the next day.
And so, we find the Sublime.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 21:31 GMT
#3375
On January 22 2012 02:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 12:50 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm not taking a bomb off
I'm either putting another bomb out, or jailing to try to protect someone like a medic like if someone like Foolishness was just a townie, I could jailkeep them for 2 nights to guarantee they get to late game. That is more valuable. I am 50% protactinium is scum based on the election - it's either him or BC. I'm not moving that bomb, unless we're lynching BC.


BM is unable to jail someone like foolishness twice in a row, He is able to move or place another bomb the same night he opts to jail someone. Also holding a town lynch hostage, which is in essence what you are doing, is not pro town.

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 08:56 Bill Murray wrote:
tonight I'm going to move my bomb to risk.nuke, since you all don't like it being on my top suspect
would you all be adverse to me putting my 2nd bomb out first? I'd rather have a bomb on incog and a bomb on risk.nuke, before I think about moving my bomb off incog, to keep my utility

The reason I claimed 1 bomb now is because I can move my 2nd bomb out tonight
If you all want me to move my 1 bomb tonight, I can't maximize having both bombs out tonight. What if I'm roleblocked? This is all a bunch of shit. I don't see why I had to be pressured today, this really hurt our play TREMENDOUSLY.

I was thinking about the Risk.Nuke situation when I was showering, and he really sucks. OMGUS all over the place, considering his tunneling started after I put him as #3 on my scumspects list. He's defending scummy Sandroba now? He can hang next.

I would either put my 2nd bomb or move my bomb on GGQQ, but it seems like he's going to get lynched, and I don't want to lose it.


You are not roleblockable.

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 18:17 Bill Murray wrote:
yeah lynch me when i was all over sandroba, and didnt want to lynch kingjames
sandroba flipping red makes you look terrible
foolishness's list is a joke, I am seriously doubting both of your abilities to lead the town right now, so I'm going to have to take over the reigns, gentlemen.


Why? would you be taking the reigns? Between myself, foolishness, and protract a total of 4 reds have been called out who have flipped red. More to the point however, the lynches that hit two of those reds were pushed/directed by us. You were "all over sandroba" yet you never analyzed him, or strongly and vocally pushed him as a lynch option and instead just voted alongside everyone else. You sheeped.

Before you rage around screaming "i scumhunted, i scumhunted" near all your "scum" are based off pure speculation and not real analysis. In some cases you just list people as red with no reason and continue on. Your contributions to this game have been near 0 and you have really not done anything aside from claim hatter with a bomb on protrac to do anything to save yourself. You didn't step up over day 3 even knowing you could still die

as for going with the sheep comment you made

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 07:44 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 21 2012 07:43 Bill Murray wrote:
My view on you is not null. Your case on Sandroba was what kept my fire fueled a few days ago.

EBWOP: @ hiro.protaganist



hey guys, he was only after sandroba based on someone elses shite, he was sheeping!

Town will most likely be annoyed as fuck with me over the kj lynch. However your play is riddled with pretty well 0 contributions, holding lynches hostage to determine if you do whats in the best interests of the towns or not, fear mongering, and lies.

As a note, Do you remember the game you were a ninja and I was a ninja? Do you remember how you held the town hostage by saying "i will give the entire blue list out to the mafia if you don't give me the name of the last ninja?" Do you remember when they asked you to move your shot because someone else had sent in a kill action on that target well before you did and once again you refused?

You clearly only play in your own personal best interests when you aren't town. Nothing you have done in this past day has been in the interests of the town, only in the interests of yourself.

You seriously make no sense these days. 24 hours before the vote is going to pass you initially think he is red and not Mad Hatter. After the claim you get all scared and want to save Protact's ass because "oooo what if it's true we don't want to lose our amazing lovely Protact." You disregard your entire read which suggest's BM's claim is bs and suddenly want to save him only to save Protact (who now red sandroba was shown to be defending heavily in your self-posted logs) now that sandroba is dead and this information has come to light you jump back on BM and don't question Protact at all? Now that BM says he is moving his bomb you are back on his case like crazy and disregarding your previous conversations with the deceased mafia.

You three need to stop being so enamored with each other right now. It is doing no good if any of you are town and is clouding your judgment.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#3376
Seriously you three I just got out of a game we lost because the veterans (relative to the rest of the crowd) trusted each other way too much. You guys are going to go to your grave if you don't start looking at each other with a critical eye every once in a while. Yesterday does nothing to further any of you as town. Your possibility of mafia is the same or more than it was before everything that went down.

You guys killed a town and killed a mafia that was going to get MODKILLED stop running around going "we're so great" and look at the situation as it is. You aren't the second coming and you did nothing that was pro-town yesterday. So stop acting like it, start acting like town and start thinking with all possibilities in mind.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 21:48 GMT
#3377
And Protact no way do we go through with your agenda without considering supersoft. He continues to be a complete non-entity for town and his actions were and still are questionable. He needs to be considered. You three have brought nothing to the table to counter my analysis of him. You have pushed my case under the rug with no analysis of your own and you won't be doing it again.

Look at his actions tonight. He has done nothing except make a pointless post directing our blues. Something he shouldn't be doing anyways and something that does not help town in any conceivable way. He needs to die.
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Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 21 2012 22:20 GMT
#3378
Can someone direct me to the BC/Protact logs? I'm having trouble finding them.

Mah scum list (from strongest to weakest):
Slardar, Opz, GGQ, bum, protact, ss. I don't know how ss plays as scum, but this is different from anything I've seen out of him before iirc.


IF YOU'RE LURKING AND INTENTIONALLY NOT POSTING I AM MAD AT YOU.
We have lost 5 people to modkills. Chances are, we end up losing more than that as there is no more replacing out/in. We do not want this.
In light of this, people I'd love to hear more from are as follows:
evantrees
cwave
slardar
kita
kenpachi
munk-e
brownbear
nisani
igabod (hasn't posted since the 14th...? or was he replaced and I missed it?)
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 21 2012 22:29 GMT
#3379
On January 22 2012 07:20 Lanaia wrote:
Can someone direct me to the BC/Protact logs? I'm having trouble finding them.

BC hasn't posted them yet, just the Foolishness and VE ones.

On January 22 2012 07:20 Lanaia wrote:
igabod (hasn't posted since the 14th...? or was he replaced and I missed it?)

I replaced him.

p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 21 2012 22:30 GMT
#3380
jaj22 replaced igabod. Here is his filter if you would like to look through it. He's been fairly active actually so there isn't really any reason to group him with those lazy schmucks.
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