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blahz0r
3030 Posts
Good luck to everyone. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On January 15 2012 12:20 flamewheel wrote: Day 1 Election Vote Tally Votes for Bill Murray (11) Second Macpo Toadesstern rgTheSchworz Jackal58 GiygaS Munk-E EchelonTee Nisani201 Mr. Wiggles Ciryandor kitaman27 Votes for kitaman27 (1) evantrees Votes for BloodyC0bbler (11) First Meapak_Ziphh risk.nuke GGQ zeks Lanaia glurio Cyber_Cheese Foolishness supersoft wherebugsgo VisceraEyes sandroba (didn't actually vote in voting thread) Votes for Protactinium (10) Palmar Adam4167 Kurumi Cwave Liquid`Sheth Jayjay54 Jitsu p4NDemik bumatlarge blahz0r Votes for supersoft (1) Bill Murray Votes for L (2) ~OpZ~ Scamp Votes for wherebugsgo (2) Kenpachi Slardar Votes for VisceraEyes (1) L Votes for Meapak_Ziphh (1) BloodyC0bbler BloodyC0bbler is elected as Mayor and Bill Murray is his new Sheriff. There are a lot of non-voters. Chaosquo is excused for this cycle, but to my count that still leaves... kingjames01 BrownBear igabod (PM'd me saying he wants to be replaced; no reason why) Erandorr (PMed me saying he wants to be replaced; not an acceptable reason why) Protactinium rtgICEMAN Maxella Reminder to myself to update this in the future. Someone update it if I die tonight. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Meapak, Munk-E, Bill Murray, evantrees, BrownBear, Kenpachi. Substitute in glurio, Opz, EchelonTee, vaderseven, Slardar for the ones that flip town. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
I would place glurio higher on your list. I also believe that based on play, opz is far more likely to be red. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
First three people IMO who should be lynched. BM, WBG, Meapak. I will be explaining why on each when I wake up as it is near 4am and I have been up for ages trying to fix my damn reads for this game. protract, please give a more solid round of your reads in the off chance you get shot tonight. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
sandroba flipping red makes you look terrible foolishness's list is a joke, I am seriously doubting both of your abilities to lead the town right now, so I'm going to have to take over the reigns, gentlemen. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 21 2012 17:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Foolishness amend the list please. I strongly believe atm WBG has a high chance of flipping red. I would place glurio higher on your list. I also believe that based on play, opz is far more likely to be red. I'd love to hear this one. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 21 2012 18:17 Bill Murray wrote: yeah lynch me when i was all over sandroba, and didnt want to lynch kingjames sandroba flipping red makes you look terrible foolishness's list is a joke, I am seriously doubting both of your abilities to lead the town right now, so I'm going to have to take over the reigns, gentlemen. stfu. you're a detriment to town at best. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
Furthermore I think wbg is town now, just because sandro flipped scum. wbg was on sandro from day1 on in our PMs. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum. I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons... | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 21 2012 19:29 hiro protagonist wrote: -__- What the fuck happened to this thread? People need to chill out cuz we got tons of info to find scum. I just got home, and Im going to bed. Ill give my thoughts on my reads in the morning. and yes I got a check for someone on day 2. I wont reveal who till just before the day post for obvious reasons... medics on this guy btw. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
As much asI was all over BC, all fucking game. With sandro flipping red, he basically becomes 96% established townie. I am astonished myself. But I always said, only ONE of sandro or BC is red. Here is way (you seem to have forgotton) + Show Spoiler + [13/01/2012 4:02:56 AM] Sandro Maculan: Yo james [13/01/2012 4:03:14 AM] Sandro Maculan: I just got a pm saying you masoned me [13/01/2012 4:03:59 AM] Sandro Maculan: -_- [13/01/2012 4:04:09 AM] Sandro Maculan: going to bed ttyl [13/01/2012 11:57:17 AM] james: rawrrrrr [13/01/2012 11:57:22 AM] james: lol [13/01/2012 11:57:33 AM] james: i wasn't up at like 4am, its all good  [13/01/2012 11:57:39 AM] james: i sent my pm and went to bed [13/01/2012 1:19:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: hey you there? [13/01/2012 1:19:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: just woke up [13/01/2012 1:20:00 PM] james: that I am [13/01/2012 1:20:15 PM] james: I am now about to shoot myself in the foot, but well, i honestly think its needed [13/01/2012 1:21:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: ? [13/01/2012 1:21:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: i need to catch up [13/01/2012 1:21:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm on page 26 [13/01/2012 1:21:28 PM] james: oh, i am going to be using the mason mechanic [13/01/2012 1:21:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: why did you choose to mason me so early btw? [13/01/2012 1:21:31 PM] james: as a way to generate discussion [13/01/2012 1:21:32 PM] james: tbh [13/01/2012 1:21:41 PM] james: you are one of the few people I talk to frequently in games [13/01/2012 1:21:42 PM] james: or about games [13/01/2012 1:21:45 PM] james: in the last 6 months [13/01/2012 1:21:55 PM] james: of anyone else you will have a better read on me than most [13/01/2012 1:22:17 PM] Sandro Maculan: well you are a tricky one for me to read tbh [13/01/2012 1:22:25 PM] Sandro Maculan: I somehow always think you are mafia [13/01/2012 1:22:30 PM] james: most people do [13/01/2012 1:22:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: unless you are not [13/01/2012 1:22:32 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol [13/01/2012 1:22:53 PM] Sandro Maculan: this game I'm leaning town on you so far -_- [13/01/2012 1:23:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: based on something silly tbh [13/01/2012 1:23:41 PM] Sandro Maculan: like when i was typing my post of mayor campaign [13/01/2012 1:23:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: you wrote something similar [13/01/2012 1:24:04 PM] Sandro Maculan: like "mafia I'm comming for you"lol [13/01/2012 1:24:18 PM] james: lol [13/01/2012 1:24:19 PM] james: well [13/01/2012 1:24:24 PM] james: im pretty sure the post im writing now [13/01/2012 1:24:32 PM] james: will make people far easier to read [13/01/2012 1:24:37 PM] james: including myself [13/01/2012 1:24:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: k let me read the thread brb [13/01/2012 1:25:18 PM] james: i havent put it up yet [13/01/2012 1:25:25 PM] james: but as I am doing it [13/01/2012 1:25:26 PM] james: im claiming mason in thread [13/01/2012 1:25:33 PM] james: not revealing that i mason'd to you yet however [13/01/2012 1:25:46 PM] james: I am doing it purely to generate discussion and primarily get people like foolishness [13/01/2012 1:25:50 PM] james: or palmar, etc... [13/01/2012 1:25:53 PM] james: all the vets [13/01/2012 1:25:54 PM] james: to post [13/01/2012 1:25:57 PM] james: they have to [13/01/2012 1:26:02 PM] james: failure to mucks them badly [13/01/2012 1:26:17 PM] Sandro Maculan: why hide that you masoned me? [13/01/2012 1:26:35 PM] james: I'm not claiming it in the post [13/01/2012 1:26:46 PM] james: im using this post as my claim post [13/01/2012 1:26:53 PM] james: and will say I mason'd you in a one after it [13/01/2012 1:26:58 PM] james: which you can confirm [13/01/2012 1:33:32 PM] james: brb going to check on my foodstuffs [13/01/2012 1:34:53 PM] Sandro Maculan: k wait mafia can sub in all bgs [13/01/2012 1:35:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol that fucking sucks [13/01/2012 1:47:40 PM] james: and now to see how people [13/01/2012 1:47:41 PM] james: take my claim [13/01/2012 1:48:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: i can't find in the op [13/01/2012 1:48:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: how many bgs there will be [13/01/2012 1:48:21 PM] james: bgs [13/01/2012 1:48:24 PM] james: there are 2 [13/01/2012 1:48:25 PM] james: it states 2 [13/01/2012 1:48:30 PM] james: and says mafia can sub in [13/01/2012 1:48:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: i can only see mafia can sub in max 2 [13/01/2012 1:48:35 PM] james: 0 1 or 2 [13/01/2012 1:48:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah [13/01/2012 1:48:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: but where does it say it's 2 total? [13/01/2012 1:49:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: if it's only 2 that's way too fucking imba [13/01/2012 1:52:13 PM] james: worked fine in the lounge game [13/01/2012 1:52:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm going to incorporate jackal's plan [13/01/2012 1:52:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: seems good [13/01/2012 1:52:52 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm going to lynch 1 or 0 bgs [13/01/2012 1:54:11 PM] james: well, if i dont get elected ill prob be the day 1 lynch now, however [13/01/2012 1:54:14 PM] james: if i'm not [13/01/2012 1:54:19 PM] james: mafia get to have fun dealing with me [13/01/2012 1:55:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: on one hand being mason prob makes you more likely to be mafia [13/01/2012 1:55:17 PM] james: on the other [13/01/2012 1:55:19 PM] james: if im town [13/01/2012 1:55:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: on the other hand mafia isn't likely to claim that shit [13/01/2012 1:55:27 PM] james: it limits what other masons can do [13/01/2012 1:55:31 PM] james: as in if i die and flip blue [13/01/2012 1:55:32 PM] james: other mafia go [13/01/2012 1:55:41 PM] james: "oh shit if we mason we might die" [13/01/2012 1:55:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: on an extra third alien hand it's you and you are crazy so who knows [13/01/2012 1:55:51 PM] james: as i lower the possible pool [13/01/2012 1:55:54 PM] james: im figuring [13/01/2012 1:55:59 PM] james: there are 3-4 masons at most [13/01/2012 1:56:03 PM] james: and at least 1 is red [13/01/2012 1:56:17 PM] james: by outing myself now [13/01/2012 1:56:22 PM] james: if i dont get elected [13/01/2012 1:56:33 PM] james: mafia shooting me becomes annoying as it removes the cover [13/01/2012 1:56:35 PM] james: they have for their player [13/01/2012 1:56:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: I dunno about how many masons there are [13/01/2012 1:56:45 PM] james: it also forces them potentially to waste a frame on me [13/01/2012 1:56:48 PM] james: i dont know for sure [13/01/2012 1:56:51 PM] james: im speculateing [13/01/2012 1:56:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: fw wanted a pm game so maybe there is more [13/01/2012 1:56:56 PM] james: I know fw took the lounge mafia setup [13/01/2012 1:56:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: I would think [13/01/2012 1:57:04 PM] james: and tweaked it slightly [13/01/2012 1:57:45 PM] james: do you agree it is something people should have actively discussed however? I mean, with only a select group of players being able to pm others [13/01/2012 1:58:04 PM] james: thats a huge amount of potential issues [13/01/2012 1:58:06 PM] james: late game [13/01/2012 1:58:12 PM] james: if its not dealt with early [13/01/2012 1:58:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: we should keep discussion in thread as much as possible I agree [13/01/2012 1:58:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: we can bump off ideas here and the post before you off me at night [13/01/2012 1:59:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol [13/01/2012 1:59:19 PM] james: lol [13/01/2012 1:59:23 PM] james: why would I off you [13/01/2012 1:59:36 PM] james: day 1 lynch on a complete asshole [13/01/2012 1:59:39 PM] james: or scum player [13/01/2012 2:14:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: man [13/01/2012 2:14:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: this mason claim looks promissing [13/01/2012 2:15:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: I think mason mass claim could work [13/01/2012 2:15:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: mafia will have to claim it if they ever want to use it [13/01/2012 2:15:43 PM] james: yep [13/01/2012 2:16:04 PM] Sandro Maculan: and it will generate a lot of discussion [13/01/2012 2:16:11 PM] james: the discussion is key [13/01/2012 2:16:14 PM] james: you have to have an opinion on it [13/01/2012 2:27:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: k I'm caught up [13/01/2012 2:36:54 PM] james: its an annoying read[13/01/2012 2:37:00 PM] james: like 6 pages popped up when i went to bed for 6 hours [13/01/2012 2:41:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: k let's think for a bit [13/01/2012 2:41:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: what can mafia do if masons massclaim [13/01/2012 2:42:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: they can claim alongside with the other townies [13/01/2012 2:42:11 PM] james: fuck ton more scruitiny [13/01/2012 2:42:13 PM] james: of their actions [13/01/2012 2:42:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: or hide their mason an never use it [13/01/2012 2:42:20 PM] james: they can claim to be town [13/01/2012 2:42:23 PM] james: and never use a mason use [13/01/2012 2:42:31 PM] james: which prevents them from manipulating behind scenes [13/01/2012 2:42:32 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah [13/01/2012 2:42:36 PM] james: or they claim mason [13/01/2012 2:42:44 PM] james: and potentially die as everyone will be looking at us [13/01/2012 2:42:45 PM] james: at all times [13/01/2012 2:42:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: and honesttly [13/01/2012 2:42:53 PM] Sandro Maculan: fuck masons [13/01/2012 2:42:53 PM] james: as they will have the entire mason pool [13/01/2012 2:42:56 PM] james: pretty much [13/01/2012 2:43:05 PM] james: potentially there is the chance [13/01/2012 2:43:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's not that important role to protect it from hits [13/01/2012 2:43:08 PM] james: that every mason is town [13/01/2012 2:43:17 PM] james: but how many townies [13/01/2012 2:43:20 PM] james: can actually use it well? [13/01/2012 2:43:32 PM] james: its such a high skill required role [13/01/2012 2:43:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah and it's nice and all [13/01/2012 2:43:36 PM] james: and in its current form [13/01/2012 2:43:38 PM] james: only benefits mafia [13/01/2012 2:43:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: but I'd rather lose a mason than any other blue [13/01/2012 2:44:01 PM] Sandro Maculan: so if mafia wants to waste kp on them be my guest [13/01/2012 2:44:05 PM] james: pretty much [13/01/2012 2:44:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: i don't see any drawbacks [13/01/2012 2:44:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: aside from a possible mason witchunt [13/01/2012 2:44:35 PM] james: why do people think [13/01/2012 2:44:36 PM] james: im relying on my role [13/01/2012 2:44:39 PM] james: to get elected? [13/01/2012 2:44:42 PM] james: i already stated [13/01/2012 2:44:45 PM] james: it doesnt matter if i do or dont [13/01/2012 2:44:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: man [13/01/2012 2:44:47 PM] james: rofl [13/01/2012 2:44:53 PM] james: i never once said [13/01/2012 2:44:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: if you are mafia fuck you [13/01/2012 2:44:58 PM] james: "im not going to get elected [13/01/2012 2:45:02 PM] james: vote for me cause im mason" [13/01/2012 2:45:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: i'm almost sure you are town lol [13/01/2012 2:45:11 PM] james: i do some ballsy shit as red [13/01/2012 2:45:14 PM] james: i will give that to people [13/01/2012 2:45:17 PM] james: but out myself [13/01/2012 2:45:20 PM] james: so blatently [13/01/2012 2:45:24 PM] james: and fuck my entire team over? [13/01/2012 2:45:40 PM] james: theres no gain in that as im now so heavily in the spotlight [13/01/2012 2:45:47 PM] james: i am now more likely to get offed by town [13/01/2012 2:45:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: man [13/01/2012 2:45:59 PM] Sandro Maculan: you would prob get elected either way [13/01/2012 2:46:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: why would you ever do this as mafia [13/01/2012 2:46:08 PM] james: yea [13/01/2012 2:46:11 PM] james: also [13/01/2012 2:46:13 PM] james: cybercheese [13/01/2012 2:46:15 PM] james: and toad [13/01/2012 2:46:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: -_- [13/01/2012 2:46:17 PM] james: are shifty as fuck [13/01/2012 2:46:22 PM] james: -_- responses to my [13/01/2012 2:46:23 PM] james: claim [13/01/2012 2:46:27 PM] james: are exactly the shit i was hoping for [13/01/2012 2:46:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: i like the ciryandor case [13/01/2012 2:46:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: cyber seems shifty too [13/01/2012 2:46:48 PM] james: i want to see ciryandor post more [13/01/2012 2:46:50 PM] james: tbh [13/01/2012 2:46:54 PM] james: because he seems red [13/01/2012 2:46:57 PM] james: but due to such shitty play [13/01/2012 2:47:02 PM] james: most likely a red will coach him [13/01/2012 2:47:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: i'm actually okay with toad [13/01/2012 2:47:06 PM] james: to make him sound not terrible [13/01/2012 2:47:15 PM] james: and gives me a read on his coach [13/01/2012 2:47:16 PM] james: lol [13/01/2012 2:47:22 PM] james: palmar shouldn't be this apathetic [13/01/2012 2:47:24 PM] james: as a townie [13/01/2012 2:47:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: well his saving grace is agreeing with proact [13/01/2012 2:47:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: which i also agree [13/01/2012 2:47:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: but yeah he needs to step up [13/01/2012 2:48:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: i'll give him time to do it on his own before I push for him [13/01/2012 2:48:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: he usually gets to posting midway through day1 if he is town [13/01/2012 2:52:42 PM] james: yea [13/01/2012 2:52:44 PM] james: this is true [13/01/2012 3:04:25 PM] Sandro Maculan: brb [13/01/2012 3:26:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol shit [13/01/2012 3:26:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: man why don't epople think like i do [13/01/2012 3:28:57 PM] james: bum saw [13/01/2012 3:29:05 PM] james: exactly the reason why id be nervous of red masons [13/01/2012 3:29:07 PM] james: from OP [13/01/2012 3:29:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: typing a post sec [13/01/2012 3:41:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: and why is that [13/01/2012 3:42:13 PM] james: they choose [13/01/2012 3:42:31 PM] james: if they fail to by end of day 1 [13/01/2012 3:42:34 PM] james: its random'd [13/01/2012 3:43:08 PM] Sandro Maculan: prb not an issue though [13/01/2012 3:43:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: why would they ever fail to choose it [13/01/2012 3:43:32 PM] james: exactly [13/01/2012 3:43:33 PM] james: lol [13/01/2012 3:44:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: i think mafia would prob have their mason(s) selected soon [13/01/2012 3:45:22 PM] Sandro Maculan: and if this movement gets strong they will quickly mason someone [13/01/2012 3:46:48 PM] james: yea [13/01/2012 3:46:50 PM] james: they will have to [13/01/2012 3:47:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: fuck man i'm liking this plan more and more [13/01/2012 3:47:43 PM] james: i was thinking on it last night [13/01/2012 3:47:45 PM] james: and like [13/01/2012 3:47:50 PM] james: I could die because of it [13/01/2012 3:47:58 PM] james: but its still so solid [13/01/2012 3:47:59 PM] james: for town [13/01/2012 3:48:06 PM] james: my death to fuck mafia in the ass with a rake? [13/01/2012 3:48:12 PM] james: seems legit trade with 40 townies [13/01/2012 3:49:14 PM] Sandro Maculan: nah man [13/01/2012 3:49:28 PM] james: there are enough big namers [13/01/2012 3:49:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: i won't let anyone important get lynched day1 [13/01/2012 3:49:30 PM] james: in this game [13/01/2012 3:49:37 PM] james: well i could easily get shot' [13/01/2012 3:49:38 PM] james: as well [13/01/2012 3:49:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: look at what happened last huge game [13/01/2012 3:49:47 PM] james: -_- i was so wrong [13/01/2012 3:49:49 PM] james: that game [13/01/2012 3:49:52 PM] james: except on a few gut shot reads [13/01/2012 3:49:56 PM] Sandro Maculan: mafia raped all vets night 1 [13/01/2012 3:50:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: we have to wait a bit for them to thin out / get medic ' ed etc before going into that pool [13/01/2012 3:50:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's the best play [13/01/2012 3:51:39 PM] james: i didnt see any downsides [13/01/2012 3:51:50 PM] james: then again i could be missing a giant hole somewhere [13/01/2012 3:59:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: nah I've thought it through [13/01/2012 4:00:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: there are no holes [13/01/2012 4:14:36 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol you seem quite popular now [13/01/2012 4:19:42 PM] james: haha [13/01/2012 4:19:43 PM] james: apparently [14/01/2012 1:24:40 AM] Sandro Maculan: yo [14/01/2012 1:24:45 AM] Sandro Maculan: I'm back you here? [14/01/2012 1:24:54 AM] james: yea typing up a post now [14/01/2012 1:25:21 AM] Sandro Maculan: I'm catching up [14/01/2012 1:25:25 AM] Sandro Maculan: still on page 40 [14/01/2012 1:25:29 AM] Sandro Maculan: and quite drunk [14/01/2012 1:26:16 AM] Sandro Maculan: wow [14/01/2012 1:26:25 AM] Sandro Maculan: proactinum thinks you are scum [14/01/2012 1:26:34 AM] Sandro Maculan: are you mafia? [14/01/2012 1:26:44 AM] Sandro Maculan: tell me I wont remember tomorrow [14/01/2012 1:26:52 AM] Sandro Maculan: i promise not to check logs [14/01/2012 1:27:17 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 1:27:17 AM] james: im not [14/01/2012 1:27:19 AM] james: protrac [14/01/2012 1:27:22 AM] james: just outed himself [14/01/2012 1:27:23 AM] james: hard [14/01/2012 1:27:23 AM] james: though [14/01/2012 1:27:27 AM] james: so fucking obvious [14/01/2012 1:27:41 AM] james: i say this because [14/01/2012 1:27:42 AM] Sandro Maculan: I really thought he was town though [14/01/2012 1:27:45 AM] james: if anyone thinks thats mystlord [14/01/2012 1:27:47 AM] james: they are dumb as hell [14/01/2012 1:27:48 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 1:27:52 AM] Sandro Maculan: from his frist post and second [14/01/2012 1:28:03 AM] james: the post against me [14/01/2012 1:28:05 AM] james: is incog [14/01/2012 1:28:11 AM] james: and incog is firmly in [14/01/2012 1:28:15 AM] james: the anti pm bandwagon [14/01/2012 1:28:15 AM] james: for town [14/01/2012 1:28:22 AM] Sandro Maculan: no [14/01/2012 1:28:25 AM] james: no i mean [14/01/2012 1:28:27 AM] Sandro Maculan: he is against the anti pm [14/01/2012 1:28:29 AM] james: if you talk to him [14/01/2012 1:28:33 AM] james: outside of this game [14/01/2012 1:28:35 AM] Sandro Maculan: he thinkis you are for it [14/01/2012 1:28:37 AM] james: he hates pm [14/01/2012 1:28:39 AM] Sandro Maculan: and thus mafia [14/01/2012 1:28:45 AM] james: which is how he outed himself [14/01/2012 1:28:54 AM] james: his belief in people properly using pms [14/01/2012 1:28:55 AM] james: is fucking horrid [14/01/2012 1:29:02 AM] james: fw [14/01/2012 1:29:04 AM] james: and I [14/01/2012 1:29:06 AM] james: are the top 2 people [14/01/2012 1:29:08 AM] james: who like pms [14/01/2012 1:29:08 AM] Sandro Maculan: man [14/01/2012 1:29:13 AM] Sandro Maculan: this discussion [14/01/2012 1:29:13 AM] james: in general [14/01/2012 1:29:15 AM] james: i hate masons [14/01/2012 1:29:19 AM] Sandro Maculan: is fucking useless day1 [14/01/2012 1:29:21 AM] james: nah [14/01/2012 1:29:24 AM] james: incog [14/01/2012 1:29:25 AM] james: just [14/01/2012 1:29:26 AM] james: outed himself [14/01/2012 1:29:29 AM] Sandro Maculan: maybe he is mafia for not realising that [14/01/2012 1:29:31 AM] james: to me anyway [14/01/2012 1:29:35 AM] james: to me [14/01/2012 1:29:39 AM] james: thats a hugeeeee [14/01/2012 1:29:39 AM] Sandro Maculan: vets are going to get shot the fuck out [14/01/2012 1:29:40 AM] james: bit [14/01/2012 1:29:41 AM] james: also [14/01/2012 1:29:42 AM] Sandro Maculan: fast [14/01/2012 1:29:43 AM] james: adam [14/01/2012 1:29:45 AM] james: + wbg [14/01/2012 1:29:48 AM] james: link to protrac [14/01/2012 1:29:51 AM] james: so does ciryandor [14/01/2012 1:29:55 AM] Sandro Maculan: ? [14/01/2012 1:29:57 AM] james: do i think all are red? no [14/01/2012 1:29:59 AM] james: but they all link [14/01/2012 1:30:08 AM] james: protrac has done nothing to garner votes [14/01/2012 1:30:09 AM] james: but tunnel people [14/01/2012 1:30:09 AM] Sandro Maculan: man [14/01/2012 1:30:12 AM] Sandro Maculan: protact [14/01/2012 1:30:16 AM] james: first people to jump on his nuts [14/01/2012 1:30:20 AM] Sandro Maculan: if he is mafia he has balls [14/01/2012 1:30:20 AM] james: with 0 grounds [14/01/2012 1:30:23 AM] james: well [14/01/2012 1:30:25 AM] james: it is incog [14/01/2012 1:30:29 AM] Sandro Maculan: he is the most out there mothefucker [14/01/2012 1:30:45 AM] Sandro Maculan: you + him are my strongest town reads atm [14/01/2012 1:30:55 AM] Sandro Maculan: balss =/= mafia [14/01/2012 1:31:23 AM] Sandro Maculan: even you when red you play more conservatively [14/01/2012 1:31:31 AM] Sandro Maculan: of course i can be fooled and mistaken [14/01/2012 1:31:38 AM] Sandro Maculan: but i gotta go with my guts [14/01/2012 1:31:49 AM] Sandro Maculan: and they say you plus him are town right now [14/01/2012 1:38:25 AM] james: i appreciate that, I now have to dig [14/01/2012 1:38:29 AM] james: through friggen aim logs [14/01/2012 1:38:29 AM] james: on incog [14/01/2012 1:38:32 AM] james: fuuuuck [14/01/2012 1:39:20 AM] Sandro Maculan: ? [14/01/2012 1:39:29 AM] james: to quote his view [14/01/2012 1:39:30 AM] james: of pms [14/01/2012 1:39:31 AM] Sandro Maculan: he masoned you too?\ [14/01/2012 1:40:00 AM] Sandro Maculan: just made a beatiful post [14/01/2012 1:40:02 AM] Sandro Maculan: I'm quite proud of it [14/01/2012 1:59:06 AM] james: the obvious drunk post? [14/01/2012 1:59:17 AM] Sandro Maculan: man [14/01/2012 1:59:23 AM] Sandro Maculan: it all makes sense [14/01/2012 1:59:33 AM] Sandro Maculan: being drunk is very enlightening [14/01/2012 2:00:13 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:00:28 AM] Sandro Maculan: seriously [14/01/2012 2:00:29 AM] james: more like it makes everything more fun [14/01/2012 2:00:57 AM] Sandro Maculan: are you still playing lol btw? [14/01/2012 2:01:05 AM] james: eh not really [14/01/2012 2:01:08 AM] Sandro Maculan: been some time since i last messed with it [14/01/2012 2:01:08 AM] james: star wars has stolen my time [14/01/2012 2:01:18 AM] Sandro Maculan: haven't had the time [14/01/2012 2:01:23 AM] james: play so much star wars now [14/01/2012 2:01:33 AM] Sandro Maculan: man [14/01/2012 2:01:48 AM] Sandro Maculan: I'm studying human behavior [14/01/2012 2:01:54 AM] james: that sounds useful [14/01/2012 2:02:04 AM] Sandro Maculan: and chicks were never that easy [14/01/2012 2:02:27 AM] Sandro Maculan: I'm lacking time to foucs on other shit [14/01/2012 2:03:03 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:03:05 AM] james: chicks are dumb [14/01/2012 2:03:11 AM] james: booze = make them easy [14/01/2012 2:03:29 AM] Sandro Maculan: nah man [14/01/2012 2:03:33 AM] Sandro Maculan: they are like dogs [14/01/2012 2:03:40 AM] Sandro Maculan: they respond to standard shit [14/01/2012 2:03:58 AM] Sandro Maculan: if you behave a certain way they jump on you [14/01/2012 2:05:21 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:05:28 AM] james: and sandro is manipulating teh womenzorz [14/01/2012 2:05:32 AM] james: to spread legs [14/01/2012 2:07:05 AM] Sandro Maculan: it's pretty exciting if you ask me [14/01/2012 2:07:14 AM] james: hahaha [14/01/2012 2:07:15 AM] james: aye [14/01/2012 2:07:18 AM] Sandro Maculan: =P [14/01/2012 2:08:15 AM] Sandro Maculan: man where the fuck is l [14/01/2012 2:08:23 AM] Sandro Maculan: is he supposed to be really good? [14/01/2012 2:08:26 AM] Sandro Maculan: isn't [14/01/2012 2:09:02 AM] Sandro Maculan: fucking mafia always kills me b4 i get a chance to do anything [14/01/2012 2:10:53 AM] james: L is an oldschool vet [14/01/2012 2:10:59 AM] james: who is usually meh town [14/01/2012 2:11:02 AM] james: and solid mafia [14/01/2012 2:11:05 AM] james: the thing is [14/01/2012 2:11:06 AM] james: in this setup [14/01/2012 2:11:13 AM] james: the only people who excel at pms [14/01/2012 2:11:22 AM] james: would all fuck town sideways as red [14/01/2012 2:11:23 AM] james: in pms [14/01/2012 2:11:36 AM] james: if anyone of them is red, regardless of who the red mason is [14/01/2012 2:11:41 AM] james: pms can be easy crafted [14/01/2012 2:11:46 AM] Sandro Maculan: who would those be? [14/01/2012 2:12:05 AM] james: incog, myself, meapak should be able to, L [14/01/2012 2:12:06 AM] Sandro Maculan: only you and rafiled have fucked me over pms so far [14/01/2012 2:12:09 AM] james: bum should be able to [14/01/2012 2:12:21 AM] james: d3 should be able to [14/01/2012 2:12:26 AM] Sandro Maculan: d3? [14/01/2012 2:12:33 AM] james: d3_crentia [14/01/2012 2:12:37 AM] james: hes played for ages] [14/01/2012 2:12:39 AM] Sandro Maculan: never heard of him [14/01/2012 2:12:42 AM] james: was in the latest lounge mafia game [14/01/2012 2:12:49 AM] james: where he got manhandeled in pms [14/01/2012 2:12:51 AM] james: and irl [14/01/2012 2:12:56 AM] james: by his betters [14/01/2012 2:13:01 AM] james: but his ability to play [14/01/2012 2:13:05 AM] james: is far above most of tls members [14/01/2012 2:13:06 AM] Sandro Maculan: man [14/01/2012 2:13:16 AM] Sandro Maculan: i think you have to really like being mafia to be good at it [14/01/2012 2:13:29 AM] james: at pm manipulation? [14/01/2012 2:13:36 AM] Sandro Maculan: like when i roll mafia I feel like giving up [14/01/2012 2:13:38 AM] james: the "core" group of vets [14/01/2012 2:13:42 AM] Sandro Maculan: like mafia xlviii [14/01/2012 2:13:43 AM] james: who can manipulate learned it [14/01/2012 2:13:52 AM] james: via testing eachother like mad [14/01/2012 2:13:54 AM] james: in pm circles [14/01/2012 2:13:54 AM] Sandro Maculan: i don't even like winning as mafia [14/01/2012 2:13:56 AM] james: to play find the red [14/01/2012 2:14:00 AM] Sandro Maculan: doesn't feel as good [14/01/2012 2:14:05 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:14:10 AM] james: i like proving [14/01/2012 2:14:15 AM] james: tl towns are bad when im red [14/01/2012 2:14:22 AM] james: since tl towns win a game using shitty reasoning [14/01/2012 2:14:24 AM] Sandro Maculan: i like proving they are good! [14/01/2012 2:14:27 AM] Sandro Maculan: =P [14/01/2012 2:14:33 AM] james: and keep doing it because it fluked once [14/01/2012 2:14:35 AM] james: or twice [14/01/2012 2:14:38 AM] james: then a vet come sin [14/01/2012 2:14:40 AM] james: and goes [14/01/2012 2:14:44 AM] james: "rawrrrr raped you hard" [14/01/2012 2:14:57 AM] james: then town doesnt learn -_- [14/01/2012 2:14:58 AM] james: other than [14/01/2012 2:15:00 AM] james: vets = op [14/01/2012 2:15:01 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:15:03 AM] Sandro Maculan: hmm you hurt my ego by saying that [14/01/2012 2:15:10 AM] james: your an exception [14/01/2012 2:15:14 AM] james: but like [14/01/2012 2:15:16 AM] Sandro Maculan: i like to think we are pretty decent =P [14/01/2012 2:15:18 AM] james: you can see what I mean right? [14/01/2012 2:15:25 AM] james: that faultly reasoning is getting used [14/01/2012 2:15:27 AM] james: frequently [14/01/2012 2:15:30 AM] james: by the same people? [14/01/2012 2:15:37 AM] Sandro Maculan: yeah i ignore 80% of people's opinions in game [14/01/2012 2:15:53 AM] Sandro Maculan: some players i don't even bother to read what they post [14/01/2012 2:16:04 AM] Sandro Maculan: but there are some that i can really tell apart [14/01/2012 2:16:34 AM] Sandro Maculan: if you are bad as town it feels like it's too easy to be mafia [14/01/2012 2:16:44 AM] Sandro Maculan: cuz no one expects any better from you [14/01/2012 2:17:07 AM] Sandro Maculan: so whenever i roll mafia it's like a burden [14/01/2012 2:17:25 AM] Sandro Maculan: and when i roll town it's like vacations =) [14/01/2012 2:18:17 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:18:23 AM] james: i view being mafia a challenge [14/01/2012 2:18:37 AM] james: and honestly have learned more by being red [14/01/2012 2:18:38 AM] Sandro Maculan: dunno [14/01/2012 2:18:39 AM] james: than from town [14/01/2012 2:18:43 AM] Sandro Maculan: i view town as a challenge [14/01/2012 2:18:50 AM] Sandro Maculan: nailing scum feels so good [14/01/2012 2:18:55 AM] james: oh it does [14/01/2012 2:19:01 AM] james: pyp3 was the more infuriating / gratifying experience [14/01/2012 2:19:04 AM] james: i have had as town [14/01/2012 2:19:07 AM] james: nailed every red [14/01/2012 2:19:10 AM] james: traitor [14/01/2012 2:19:12 AM] james: and both sk's [14/01/2012 2:19:23 AM] Sandro Maculan: yeah you feel like a boss\ [14/01/2012 2:19:37 AM] Sandro Maculan: most games i do okay [14/01/2012 2:19:59 AM] Sandro Maculan: I get good day1 reads and after i realise I was right i fell so good [14/01/2012 2:20:03 AM] Sandro Maculan: it's awesome [14/01/2012 2:20:18 AM] Sandro Maculan: when mafia i just feel people were fools not to catch me [14/01/2012 2:21:00 AM] james: eh [14/01/2012 2:21:13 AM] james: im always surprised when im not catched [14/01/2012 2:21:18 AM] james: although My style ensures i die [14/01/2012 2:21:19 AM] james: always [14/01/2012 2:21:57 AM] Sandro Maculan: next time i roll mafia [14/01/2012 2:22:12 AM] Sandro Maculan: I'm going to be the summiest mofo on earth and not give a fuck [14/01/2012 2:22:49 AM] Sandro Maculan: like my first games i didn't care what people would think [14/01/2012 2:23:40 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:23:44 AM] james: good policy [14/01/2012 2:23:58 AM] Sandro Maculan: man seriously [14/01/2012 2:24:07 AM] Sandro Maculan: why would people not vote for me [14/01/2012 2:24:21 AM] james: your not being the typical convincing roba [14/01/2012 2:24:22 AM] Sandro Maculan: so far i got like 1 vote [14/01/2012 2:24:25 AM] james: you appear really halfassed [14/01/2012 2:24:27 AM] james: so far in thread [14/01/2012 2:24:31 AM] Sandro Maculan: lol [14/01/2012 2:24:37 AM] Sandro Maculan: that's the typical me [14/01/2012 2:24:43 AM] james: or that you are making the round of running for office [14/01/2012 2:24:45 AM] Sandro Maculan: i don't care for walls [14/01/2012 2:24:46 AM] james: with 0 effort [14/01/2012 2:24:47 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:27:53 AM] Sandro Maculan: hmmm [14/01/2012 2:28:07 AM] Sandro Maculan: i think i put in effort when it's needed [14/01/2012 2:28:10 AM] Sandro Maculan: i don't like discussing random shit that leads nowhere [14/01/2012 2:29:26 AM] james: didnt you use to post more, or is it that we just talk alot that i assume you do? lol [14/01/2012 2:29:37 AM] james: also brb [14/01/2012 2:30:44 AM] Sandro Maculan: the time i dedicate to mafia is proportional of the time I'm at home doing nothing [14/01/2012 2:30:59 AM] Sandro Maculan: so yeah when there is less good shit to do i post more [14/01/2012 2:32:15 AM] james: lol [14/01/2012 2:48:59 AM] james: that post was more boss [14/01/2012 2:49:54 AM] Sandro Maculan: =) [14/01/2012 2:56:32 AM] Sandro Maculan: fuck palmar man [14/01/2012 2:56:37 AM] Sandro Maculan: he is taking too long [14/01/2012 2:56:44 AM] Sandro Maculan: maybe he is mafia [14/01/2012 2:58:08 AM] james: hes realllllly apathetic this game [14/01/2012 2:58:10 AM] james: for some reason [14/01/2012 2:58:12 AM] james: not like gms game [14/01/2012 2:58:13 AM] james: at all [14/01/2012 3:00:28 AM] Sandro Maculan: rofl [14/01/2012 3:00:34 AM] Sandro Maculan: did you watch [14/01/2012 3:00:48 AM] Sandro Maculan: the uszat dude interviewing players? [14/01/2012 3:06:28 AM] james: nope [14/01/2012 3:06:33 AM] james: i rarely watch streams or vids on tl now [14/01/2012 3:06:52 AM] Sandro Maculan: rfo [14/01/2012 3:07:00 AM] james: rfo? [14/01/2012 3:07:13 AM] Sandro Maculan: rofl [14/01/2012 3:07:15 AM] Sandro Maculan: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303115#6 [14/01/2012 3:07:20 AM] Sandro Maculan: watch this [14/01/2012 3:07:26 AM] Sandro Maculan: will not dissapoint [14/01/2012 3:14:15 AM] james: thats carmac trolling people? rofl [14/01/2012 3:14:55 AM] james: or someone that carmac [14/01/2012 3:14:59 AM] james: just found vids of? [14/01/2012 3:37:35 AM] james: and heading to bed, ttyl [14/01/2012 3:06:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: man I have 1 hour before i go out again and need to catch up [14/01/2012 3:06:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: you here? [14/01/2012 3:07:17 PM] james: -_- [14/01/2012 3:07:18 PM] james: ve claimed jack [14/01/2012 3:07:24 PM] james: mattchew was modkilled [14/01/2012 3:07:25 PM] james: for being a dumbfuck [14/01/2012 3:07:32 PM] james: we are no where closer to getting shit solved [14/01/2012 3:07:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: I', still on page 50 =( [14/01/2012 3:07:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: and don't quite remember last night [14/01/2012 3:07:51 PM] james: you were kinda drunk [14/01/2012 3:07:54 PM] james: drunk man mc drunk [14/01/2012 3:08:01 PM] Sandro Maculan: i was kinda totally drunk [14/01/2012 3:08:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: out of my mind [14/01/2012 3:08:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: =P [14/01/2012 3:08:16 PM] james: lol [14/01/2012 3:08:21 PM] james: thats not normal? [14/01/2012 3:08:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's quite standard for my weekends =P [14/01/2012 3:08:45 PM] james: lol [14/01/2012 3:08:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: i do enjoy my vodka [14/01/2012 3:12:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: who are you lynching btw [14/01/2012 3:12:36 PM] Sandro Maculan: i need to vote cuz i won't have the time later [14/01/2012 3:17:17 PM] james: most likely incog [14/01/2012 3:17:21 PM] james: unless someone fucks up in thread [14/01/2012 3:17:23 PM] james: between now and then [14/01/2012 3:17:32 PM] james: 3 posts since the start of a game day [14/01/2012 3:17:34 PM] james: is inexcusable [14/01/2012 3:17:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: -_- [14/01/2012 3:17:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: then I'm not voting for you [14/01/2012 3:17:50 PM] james: where 1 was a purposeful misrepresentation of facts [14/01/2012 3:17:55 PM] james: and continued a discussion round me [14/01/2012 3:17:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's quite silly to lynch him day1 man [14/01/2012 3:17:59 PM] james: as opposed to around masons [14/01/2012 3:18:00 PM] james: eh [14/01/2012 3:18:09 PM] james: take you rpick, its him or foolishness [14/01/2012 3:18:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: and he ddoesn't seem to give a fuck [14/01/2012 3:18:14 PM] james: both are performing badly [14/01/2012 3:18:16 PM] james: there are 2 [14/01/2012 3:18:17 PM] Sandro Maculan: which is a townie trait [14/01/2012 3:18:17 PM] james: fucking people [14/01/2012 3:18:18 PM] james: on [14/01/2012 3:18:19 PM] james: 1 [14/01/2012 3:18:20 PM] james: account [14/01/2012 3:18:27 PM] james: 3 posts [14/01/2012 3:18:30 PM] james: is totaly inexcusable [14/01/2012 3:18:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: well sure [14/01/2012 3:18:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: let's give him one more day and watch him closely [14/01/2012 3:18:52 PM] james: given that he has not contributed anything and is solely being disruptive? [14/01/2012 3:19:00 PM] james: and foolishness? who openly admitted [14/01/2012 3:19:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: lynching him day1 is an statistical mistake [14/01/2012 3:19:07 PM] james: that he wants a mayor in power [14/01/2012 3:19:08 PM] james: that he can manipulate? [14/01/2012 3:19:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: man even so [14/01/2012 3:19:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: that's not something mafia would say openly [14/01/2012 3:19:36 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's like your claim [14/01/2012 3:19:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: it draws suspcion onto you [14/01/2012 3:19:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: which makes you less likely mafia [14/01/2012 3:20:22 PM] james: foolishness [14/01/2012 3:20:24 PM] james: didnt say it openly [14/01/2012 3:20:26 PM] james: he said it in pms [14/01/2012 3:20:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: let's wait for day 2 to lynch those guys [14/01/2012 3:20:29 PM] james: and his mason [14/01/2012 3:20:32 PM] james: gave out the pms [14/01/2012 3:20:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: chances are if they are town mafia will shoot them regardless of how suspicious they are [14/01/2012 3:20:46 PM] james: had mattchew not shared his pms before modkilled [14/01/2012 3:20:48 PM] james: no one would have known [14/01/2012 3:20:51 PM] james: possibly [14/01/2012 3:21:01 PM] james: near no one has posted though [14/01/2012 3:21:07 PM] james: primarily only known names [14/01/2012 3:21:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: i'm guilty of that too [14/01/2012 3:21:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: i have no time on weekends [14/01/2012 3:21:48 PM] james: haha [14/01/2012 3:21:58 PM] james: of the people who have posted day 1 [14/01/2012 3:22:02 PM] james: both of them are the most suspicious to me [14/01/2012 3:22:06 PM] james: palmar is a handicap [14/01/2012 3:22:10 PM] james: kurumi is trolling [14/01/2012 3:22:15 PM] james: as kurumi always does [14/01/2012 3:22:27 PM] james: the only "neutral" lynch i have is him [14/01/2012 3:22:29 PM] james: for doing fuck all [14/01/2012 3:22:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: kurumi trolls way less as mafia [14/01/2012 3:22:39 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's a pretty good tell on him [14/01/2012 3:22:40 PM] james: the only troll i abide by [14/01/2012 3:22:42 PM] james: is chez [14/01/2012 3:22:43 PM] james: lol [14/01/2012 3:22:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: sure [14/01/2012 3:22:48 PM] james: he actually contributes [14/01/2012 3:22:51 PM] james: as a troll [14/01/2012 3:23:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: kurumi is disrupitive, but if he is trolling a lot chances are he is town [14/01/2012 3:24:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: we have to lynch not likely day1 targets [14/01/2012 3:24:15 PM] Sandro Maculan: like cc and ciry [14/01/2012 3:24:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: high chance to flip mafia and low chance to get shot if town [14/01/2012 3:24:39 PM] Sandro Maculan: and we have to deal with them at some point [14/01/2012 3:26:13 PM] james: eeh both have high chances [14/01/2012 3:26:19 PM] james: of being shot [14/01/2012 3:26:20 PM] james: atm imo [14/01/2012 3:27:04 PM] Sandro Maculan: being shot by who? [14/01/2012 3:27:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: vigis? [14/01/2012 3:27:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: dunno vigis normally like to save it for later [14/01/2012 3:28:34 PM] james: ve claims hes shooting cc [14/01/2012 3:28:36 PM] james: or was anyway [14/01/2012 3:31:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: what [14/01/2012 3:32:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: i'm still on page 58 [14/01/2012 3:32:15 PM] Sandro Maculan: why did he claim who he is shooting [14/01/2012 3:32:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: and why did he claim in the first palce? [14/01/2012 3:33:36 PM] Sandro Maculan: rofl [14/01/2012 3:33:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: seriously [14/01/2012 3:33:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: he cclaims jack and doesn't eve know how it works [14/01/2012 3:33:52 PM] Sandro Maculan: -_- [14/01/2012 3:35:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: I want to vote for you cuz i don't really like the other options besides protact [14/01/2012 3:35:44 PM] james: yea [14/01/2012 3:35:47 PM] james: lol [14/01/2012 3:35:48 PM] james: see [14/01/2012 3:35:53 PM] Sandro Maculan: but he wants to lynch you and you him [14/01/2012 3:35:57 PM] james: eh [14/01/2012 3:36:02 PM] james: i have a list of like 4 people [14/01/2012 3:36:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: that's dumb as fuck =P [14/01/2012 3:36:04 PM] james: id lynch [14/01/2012 3:36:06 PM] james: tbh [14/01/2012 3:36:10 PM] james: he went for me [14/01/2012 3:36:14 PM] james: on the shadiest shit [14/01/2012 3:36:15 PM] james: in the world [14/01/2012 3:36:19 PM] james: incog reads the OP's [14/01/2012 3:36:21 PM] james: carefully [14/01/2012 3:36:23 PM] james: and he misread it [14/01/2012 3:36:28 PM] james: needed to pull a post I made [14/01/2012 3:36:31 PM] james: outside of the game [14/01/2012 3:36:35 PM] james: that he misrepresented? [14/01/2012 3:36:42 PM] james: theres no way in hell [14/01/2012 3:36:45 PM] james: thats a town incog [14/01/2012 3:36:47 PM] james: he knows better [14/01/2012 3:36:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: he's pretty good mafia then [14/01/2012 3:37:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: cuz i got a strong town lean on him [14/01/2012 3:37:10 PM] james: he has 3 posts [14/01/2012 3:37:14 PM] Sandro Maculan: based on the way he posts his shit [14/01/2012 3:37:14 PM] james: and has support [14/01/2012 3:37:16 PM] james: on a stance of [14/01/2012 3:37:24 PM] james: "ill lynch ciryandor" into "ill lynch bc" [14/01/2012 3:37:31 PM] james: he posts [14/01/2012 3:37:34 PM] james: analysis posts [14/01/2012 3:37:42 PM] james: mafia thats easy to do [14/01/2012 3:37:47 PM] james: he fucks up day 1 [14/01/2012 3:37:52 PM] james: whoops day 1 analysis dudes [14/01/2012 3:37:54 PM] james: my bad [14/01/2012 3:38:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: k if you really have a good case on him being scum and get elected you can push it day2 since you will be alive [14/01/2012 3:38:56 PM] Sandro Maculan: i'll vote for you if you don't lynch into vets day1 [14/01/2012 3:39:48 PM] james: and who would you recommend? [14/01/2012 3:39:53 PM] james: a random non talker? [14/01/2012 3:39:57 PM] james: which we have a million of [14/01/2012 3:40:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: i'd recomend a flip between one of your bgs [14/01/2012 3:40:15 PM] Sandro Maculan: and ciryandor [14/01/2012 3:40:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: maybe you can even say in thread [14/01/2012 3:40:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: that you will lynch one of the bgs 50% of the time [14/01/2012 3:40:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: and don't even roll [14/01/2012 3:41:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: that's because mafia can sub bgs in and kill both elected roles without outing anyone [14/01/2012 3:41:23 PM] james: .................... [14/01/2012 3:41:25 PM] james: i can't [14/01/2012 3:41:26 PM] james: lynch [14/01/2012 3:41:27 PM] james: a bg [14/01/2012 3:41:35 PM] james: the mayor lynch choice [14/01/2012 3:41:37 PM] james: has to be in [14/01/2012 3:41:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: you can threaten [14/01/2012 3:41:38 PM] james: when you get [14/01/2012 3:41:40 PM] james: elected [14/01/2012 3:41:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: treathen [14/01/2012 3:41:45 PM] james: ITS FULL OF SHIT [14/01/2012 3:41:49 PM] james: bgs are chosen after lynch [14/01/2012 3:41:56 PM] james: its a god damn lie [14/01/2012 3:41:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: oh [14/01/2012 3:42:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: i didn't know that [14/01/2012 3:42:11 PM] james: fw always makes the mayor candidates [14/01/2012 3:42:14 PM] james: send in the lynch choice [14/01/2012 3:42:16 PM] james: like [14/01/2012 3:42:19 PM] james: 1 hour ahead [14/01/2012 3:42:20 PM] james: of the post [14/01/2012 3:42:30 PM] james: so that someone dies within 5 minutes of deadline [14/01/2012 3:42:36 PM] james: mafia then decides to sub in or not [14/01/2012 3:42:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol then you need to out one of your bgs to me [14/01/2012 3:42:38 PM] james: based on election results [14/01/2012 3:42:45 PM] james: was pretty sure [14/01/2012 3:42:50 PM] james: that I was going to do a cipher [14/01/2012 3:42:57 PM] james: and hand 1 half to you, and the other half elsewhere [14/01/2012 3:43:16 PM] james: in the event I die [14/01/2012 3:43:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah seems like a plan [14/01/2012 3:43:27 PM] Sandro Maculan: and tell the thread that i know [14/01/2012 3:43:36 PM] Sandro Maculan: and whoever is the other person that know [14/01/2012 3:43:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: s [14/01/2012 3:43:50 PM] james: openly telling thread who the people are [14/01/2012 3:43:53 PM] james: just means they die as well [14/01/2012 3:43:53 PM] james: kik [14/01/2012 3:43:55 PM] james: lol* [14/01/2012 3:43:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: no man [14/01/2012 3:44:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: unless you trust me and this other dude 100% [14/01/2012 3:44:24 PM] Sandro Maculan: you have to tell the thread who has the info [14/01/2012 3:44:41 PM] Sandro Maculan: not who are the bgs [14/01/2012 3:44:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: that would be dumb [14/01/2012 3:44:55 PM] james: its pretty obvious [14/01/2012 3:45:01 PM] james: who id be handing it out to [14/01/2012 3:45:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah the other dude that mason you [14/01/2012 3:45:25 PM] Sandro Maculan: do you trust him? [14/01/2012 3:45:46 PM] james: eh? enough with half a cipher [14/01/2012 3:46:10 PM] james: say im elected and im town + sheriff is town [14/01/2012 3:46:12 PM] james: i hand you + opz [14/01/2012 3:46:15 PM] james: the info [14/01/2012 3:46:19 PM] james: if both bgs die night 1 [14/01/2012 3:46:23 PM] james: you are both obviously red [14/01/2012 3:46:35 PM] james: if myself + sheriff die night 1 [14/01/2012 3:46:37 PM] james: both bgs are red [14/01/2012 3:46:47 PM] james: if you or opz dont come forward with the info [14/01/2012 3:46:50 PM] james: we snagged another red [14/01/2012 3:47:07 PM] james: if both bgs die while myself + sheriff are still alive [14/01/2012 3:47:12 PM] james: likely 1 of is red [14/01/2012 3:47:26 PM] james: or you and opz are [14/01/2012 3:47:27 PM] james: regardless [14/01/2012 3:47:34 PM] james: its either 1 or 2 reds [14/01/2012 3:47:41 PM] james: in the case [14/01/2012 3:47:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: man [14/01/2012 3:47:46 PM] james: and having the names out [14/01/2012 3:47:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: I can't be elected [14/01/2012 3:47:49 PM] james: works as a deterent [14/01/2012 3:47:54 PM] james: to shooting / subbing them [14/01/2012 3:47:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: I won't be here for the lynch [14/01/2012 3:48:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah seems good enough [14/01/2012 3:49:22 PM] Sandro Maculan: day ends today right? [14/01/2012 3:50:29 PM] james: uh let me check [14/01/2012 3:51:02 PM] james: yea [14/01/2012 3:51:20 PM] james: aksi [14/01/2012 3:51:23 PM] james: also [14/01/2012 3:51:27 PM] james: interesting move foolishness [14/01/2012 3:51:40 PM] james: he voted me [14/01/2012 3:51:41 PM] james: not bm [14/01/2012 3:51:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: you are lynching protact 100%? [14/01/2012 3:52:13 PM] james: not 100% no [14/01/2012 3:53:12 PM] james: i have foolishness, palmar, protact, brownbear and wiggles [14/01/2012 3:53:16 PM] james: on a list of possible red vets [14/01/2012 3:53:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol [14/01/2012 3:53:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: i want to lynch none of those [14/01/2012 3:53:35 PM] james: most wont [14/01/2012 3:53:41 PM] james: brownbear hasn't posted that I remember [14/01/2012 3:53:47 PM] james: if i had to choose former mayor candidates [14/01/2012 3:53:50 PM] james: is shoot slardar [14/01/2012 3:53:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: bb might even get mkéd [14/01/2012 3:53:53 PM] james: but hes so obviously not red [14/01/2012 3:54:12 PM] james: so many vets have done [14/01/2012 3:54:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: tbh i don't even remember reading his posts [14/01/2012 3:54:15 PM] james: dick fuck all [14/01/2012 4:01:44 PM] Sandro Maculan: man I'll compromise don't lynch fool or incog then you get my vote [14/01/2012 4:04:25 PM] james: fine, ill agree to that [14/01/2012 4:05:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: k gotta roll [14/01/2012 4:05:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'd totally support palmar [14/01/2012 4:06:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: fuck him he is scum [14/01/2012 4:07:01 PM] james: lol [14/01/2012 4:17:56 PM] james: off to work be back later [12:05:56 AM] Sandro Maculan: i'm back [12:06:01 AM] Sandro Maculan: who got lynched [12:11:43 AM] james: palmar flipped miller [12:11:47 AM] james: and you almsot got modkilled i think [12:11:55 AM] Sandro Maculan: yeah [12:12:00 AM] Sandro Maculan: just checked that [12:12:03 AM] Sandro Maculan: =/ [12:12:16 AM] Sandro Maculan: i didn't even realize there was a voting thread [12:12:23 AM] james: lol [12:12:36 AM] Sandro Maculan: i saw plenty of people voting in thread [12:12:39 AM] Sandro Maculan: and never checked [12:12:54 AM] Sandro Maculan: fucking palmar man [12:12:59 AM] james: least he was miller [12:13:07 AM] Sandro Maculan: yeah [12:13:11 AM] Sandro Maculan: not as bad [12:13:12 AM] Sandro Maculan: but sitll [12:13:20 AM] Sandro Maculan: i was pretty sure he was mafia [12:14:12 AM] james: im more comfortable with my read still [12:14:14 AM] james: on incog [12:14:50 AM] Sandro Maculan: incog is my second strongest read this game [12:14:52 AM] Sandro Maculan: as town [12:14:59 AM] james: why his flop [12:15:02 AM] james: with no real reason [12:15:08 AM] Sandro Maculan: man [12:15:09 AM] james: from me [12:15:11 AM] james: to someone else? [12:15:13 AM] Sandro Maculan: i did read that [12:15:19 AM] Sandro Maculan: that's pretty normal as town [12:15:23 AM] james: nah [12:15:28 AM] james: his campaign run [12:15:30 AM] Sandro Maculan: and pretty danm wierd if e is mafia [12:15:30 AM] james: that picked up steam [12:15:32 AM] james: was offing me [12:15:41 AM] Sandro Maculan: mafia wants to keep their story straigh [12:15:50 AM] Sandro Maculan: and draw the least amount of suspicion [12:15:55 AM] james: eh? depends on the player [12:15:58 AM] Sandro Maculan: nothing about his play screams mafia [12:15:59 AM] james: doing things that are [12:16:06 AM] james: "non standard cause they are bad" [12:16:12 AM] Sandro Maculan: i read that game curu played in [12:16:13 AM] james: is a valid strat [12:16:14 AM] james: lol [12:16:21 AM] Sandro Maculan: sure [12:16:33 AM] james: vets routinely do things that are "wtfish" because they can get away with it when no one else can [12:16:34 AM] Sandro Maculan: but they neve pull it off [12:16:42 AM] Sandro Maculan: they always keep somewhat neutral [12:17:05 AM] Sandro Maculan: dunno i used to thin k that way [12:17:20 AM] Sandro Maculan: and thought you were mafia 2 games in which you were not [12:17:26 AM] james: to be fair [12:17:32 AM] james: regardless of my alignment [12:17:37 AM] Sandro Maculan: mafia behaves similarly no matter how good they are supposed to be [12:17:37 AM] james: people typically view my play [12:17:38 AM] james: as red [12:18:01 AM] Sandro Maculan: all my conspiracy theories [12:18:16 AM] Sandro Maculan: like these guy is incredible mafia and must be doing yx [12:18:22 AM] james: lol [12:18:25 AM] Sandro Maculan: always prove to be wrong [12:18:42 AM] Sandro Maculan: the simplest thing is most likely truth [12:18:52 AM] james: usually [12:18:59 AM] james: the exception is vet players [12:19:10 AM] Sandro Maculan: nah [12:19:11 AM] james: most vets dont play [12:19:13 AM] james: fucked up [12:19:14 AM] Sandro Maculan: they aren't [12:19:15 AM] james: ace does [12:19:23 AM] Sandro Maculan: that's hat i'm saying [12:19:30 AM] Sandro Maculan: even ace [12:19:31 AM] james: lol [12:19:35 AM] james: ace does ballsy shit [12:19:36 AM] james: in the open [12:19:40 AM] Sandro Maculan: acts way more calmly when mafia [12:19:47 AM] james: until you provke him [12:19:48 AM] Sandro Maculan: when town he is way more out there [12:19:54 AM] Sandro Maculan: nah man [12:20:07 AM] james: im saying from experience [12:20:13 AM] james: you can pressure him [12:20:13 AM] james: hard [12:20:18 AM] james: and by pressure i mean [12:20:18 AM] Sandro Maculan: yeah maybe you are right [12:20:20 AM] james: argue like a champ [12:20:26 AM] Sandro Maculan: i'm saying form experience too [12:20:27 AM] james: till he gets super pissed [12:20:28 AM] james: lol [12:20:30 AM] james: it takes alot [12:20:32 AM] james: and I mean alot [12:22:13 AM] Sandro Maculan: man i need to sleep [12:22:16 AM] james: haha [12:22:17 AM] james: then crash [12:22:37 AM] Sandro Maculan: i got woken up 4 hours after i hit the sac today [12:22:57 AM] Sandro Maculan: i got home early toay cuz i was like a fucking zombie [12:23:13 AM] Sandro Maculan: gnight man [11:27:44 AM] Sandro Maculan: yo [11:27:49 AM] Sandro Maculan: can we still talk? [11:27:59 AM] Sandro Maculan: or it's only for the day? [11:29:08 AM] Sandro Maculan: fucking. hung over. [11:29:26 AM] Sandro Maculan: need. more. drinks. [5:16:33 PM] james: we can yes Do you REALLY think they have the commitment to fake lake 8 pages of skyping? This looks genuine to me. It is a fuck ton of work to fake something that well. I am not even capable of faking a conversation that well. Who are those guys calling for BCs head now? Think that through. And get of his ass. If we look at the mayor candidates now, Protact is town to me and altough I didn't like the KJ case as much, there were reasons to vote him. BC is established town because no one would randomly fake a chat log like that. That leaves us with BM. Hmm. He called for sandros head, was against KJ lynch. and started to put some effort him. Still seems like the number one target of those three. We actually might consider L being the scum candidate. He ended up being godfather, so apparently scum wanted to give him DT immunitiy. If L was the red candidate and just couldn't get the leverage behind his campaing... There was a small (maybe desperate) triple post bandwagon d1 page 66 which seemed odd to me at that time, because L made that stupid question about the vig shot: On January 15 2012 08:20 supersoft wrote: okay I am giving my vote to the one I think is most likely town. It's BM. I think I won't change my opinion anymore. Maybe I'll switch to L. On January 15 2012 08:21 Jitsu wrote: I haven't voted yet. I'm having trouble determining who I think should best be put into the position based on D1 Analysis. I am leaning towards L right now. Not sure about Protact. On January 15 2012 08:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: I like L's direction his post carries. They like all the extraneous drama that everyone elses had. He's also a notable scum hunter, and very successful at it. I think I'm leaving my vote for him on him actually. At least Opz and supersoft are on many peoples lists. So this scenario would be possible as well. ___________________________ I am actually surprised that chaos flipped green. I was pretty sure about him. Guess I was wrong. That also weakens the GGQ case a lot  Also, I am glad that we didn't waste our DL! Good move town. Yeah, that were my thoughts, I have no fucking Idea of who tho vote for right now. I will look at further delevopments. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
I hate post like that. Directing medics is a fucking aweful Idea. This doesn't encourage a medic to protect him, it actually makes him WIFOM if he really should protect him, because mafia is reading this very post. STOP DIRECTING BLUES. Trust them, they've been pretty great so far and know what they're doing. Especially N1: N1 red DT check, N1 medic save. Also 2 great vig shots. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 21 2012 12:38 Jitsu wrote: Could it be possible Mafia was pushing it as well to waste out double lynch? Maybe we were onto a second solid candidate and they wanted that bandwagon to roll because they A. knew he wasn't coming back and B. wanted us to not have a decent second vote. I don't really regret using the lynch on Sandroba now I think about it, he could have voted last second and survived. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 21 2012 20:00 Jayjay54 wrote: I hate post like that. Directing medics is a fucking aweful Idea. This doesn't encourage a medic to protect him, it actually makes him WIFOM if he really should protect him, because mafia is reading this very post. STOP DIRECTING BLUES. Trust them, they've been pretty great so far and know what they're doing. Especially N1: N1 red DT check, N1 medic save. Also 2 great vig shots. wrong. blues are dumb. dont trust them, direct them. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 21 2012 20:41 supersoft wrote: wrong. blues are dumb. dont trust them, direct them. don't say something with your own words, if someone else already phrased it with better words. from the general guide to mafia: As a general rule, normal townies should not attempt to direct blue roles or try to find out who is blue and who is not. Town power roles work better if the mafia are uncertain of what the blue roles will do. It is not uncommon for the mafia to have anti-blue roles such as roleblockers, medics, framers, etc. Therefore, if the mafia has a general idea that the medic will protect X, or the DT will check Y, they are free to mess with those actions if they feel it to be necessary. Do not make medic lists, DT lists, or vig lists, as they are generally unhelpful or even detrimental to the town . As long as you are doing a good job of posting constructively and sharing your suspicions, good blue roles who are reading the thread should have the information to know what to do. Don’t direct their actions just because you suspect they are incompetent. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On January 21 2012 19:56 Jayjay54 wrote: We actually might consider L being the scum candidate. He ended up being godfather, so apparently scum wanted to give him DT immunitiy. If L was the red candidate and just couldn't get the leverage behind his campaing... Or, they already had a candidate who would be immune to DT checks anyway On January 19 2012 14:11 Bill Murray wrote: I didn't get to send in anything last night, and I'm like 80 pages behind on reading I don't mind being lynched I've failed you all as a Sheriff On January 21 2012 12:09 Bill Murray wrote: I've used night actions both nights On January 21 2012 12:10 Bill Murray wrote: I jailkeeped lanaia and I put a bomb on mystlord On January 21 2012 12:50 Bill Murray wrote: I'm not taking a bomb off I'm either putting another bomb out, or jailing to try to protect someone like a medic like if someone like Foolishness was just a townie, I could jailkeep them for 2 nights to guarantee they get to late game. That is more valuable. I am 50% protactinium is scum based on the election - it's either him or BC. I'm not moving that bomb, unless we're lynching BC. Inconsistencies much? | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 21 2012 20:48 Jayjay54 wrote: don't say something with your own words, if someone else already phrased it with better words. from the general guide to mafia: the general guide didnt fall from heaven, engraved in stone. This is a opinion of some guy and I have my own. In this individual case, it's fairly obvious that the almost confirmed DT needs some protection. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 21 2012 20:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Or, they already had a candidate who would be immune to DT checks anyway Inconsistencies much? haha  I always thought he jailed and bombed on n1 and did nothing n2. That would make sense somehow. Now, that he sticks to a different story, yea. He's a goner. I'll vote him. You can't be that bad when playing town. BC is town, protact certainly acts town, BM is scum. Also, town: he'll 99% claim that he's been roleblocked. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 21 2012 20:59 supersoft wrote: the general guide didnt fall from heaven, engraved in stone. This is a opinion of some guy and I have my own. In this individual case, it's fairly obvious that the almost confirmed DT needs some protection. and it will be obvious to the medics as well. but you kind of destroy the shadow of doubt for scum. I don't agree with your call here, sorry. | ||
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