EPTSo what he said is possible because a mafia framer could make a mafia goon show up as a VT instead for example right? And a miller would show up as a mafia goon as well I guess?
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Toadesstern
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So what he said is possible because a mafia framer could make a mafia goon show up as a VT instead for example right? And a miller would show up as a mafia goon as well I guess? | ||
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On January 21 2012 10:26 wherebugsgo wrote: Nah, waste of my time. I'm willing to lynch sandro, if he comes up anything but red we lynch hiro right after, especially because hiro has been playing quite out of his normal character. Of course, I doubt he'd have the balls to claim like this as scum, but it's still worth something. ##unvote Toadesstern ##vote Sandroba As for the other one, someone needs to explain why we are not killing BM and who we are killing instead. Otherwise, my vote is going to stay on him. I don't just like keeping people around because they blue claimed. Also, the blue claim didn't make much sense for me because a mad hatter wouldn't want to be in office unless he intended on getting himself lynched. A mad hatter is one of the hardest roles to play; you play to get yourself shot by scum, and if you're in office that's impossible. BM claimed hatter and has a bomb on protact. This actually makes some sense because according to a list BM did day1 protact was first on his "DIEDIEDIE" list. We don't want to risk loosing protact, give him 1 or 2 days to replace bombs and rethink everything by then. | ||
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On January 21 2012 10:31 bumatlarge wrote: So we are ok with lynching sandroba the townie and not meapak the scum? And we are jumping off BM? Not if I can help it. BM and kingjames are extremely reasonable lynch choices, but sandroba instead of BM sounds like scum work. I'm especially surprised at Protact. It seems like extremely selfish to just stop lynching someone because they say they have a bomb on you. I would like an actually good reason to take my vote off of BM aside from the off chance that you would die. I have had very little doubt that BM was scum this game even after all the votes piled on to him. But protact's stunt has me guessing. I'd like thoughts on this, because I'm not sure if it's better to actual lynch BM and call him out on this, or to not lynch him because he has a strong likelyhood of being town. DO NOT LYNCH SANDROBA. just to get this straight: If sandroba flips red I want everyone to insta-lynch bum, kk? | ||
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On January 21 2012 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote: I like how I'm like, marked for death tonight and no one gives a shit what I say. Cool guys. Consider this my last post. same here. I guess we two have to get used to it for the sake of our own sanity  | ||
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On January 21 2012 10:57 p4NDemik wrote: Toad it seems pretty clear to me he had just missed reading the new post. He reference's Protact's gambit but has nothing about this dt news. Mafia wouldn't ignore this. I am very well aware of that fact. Still if sandroba flips red there's bound to be a couple of mafias that are not willing to lynch sandroba. But there's no good in discussing this right now. I should not have brought it up at all, I just wanted to make sure you guys all look at stuff like that and try to take notes of who is and especially WAS voting who. That's going to be crucial information after the flip. | ||
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However I don't think we got an alternative. We can't lynch BM with what happened, can we? If sandroba gets modkilled we still get a lot of information, about hiro, about all the 3 vets that got us on sandroba and he if we're going to unvite he might last minute vote. Of course we could still just lynch him the next day but I don't really see something we could change. If we unvote sandroba BM get's lynched. | ||
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Still I'm going with this now. Not going to change my vote. I want BM to live 1 more day. If we could get GGQ lynched or someone else (has he voted yet?) that'd be fine but BM instead? If sandro really flips town I'm all for our beloved DT. | ||
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Thx for bitchslapping me left and right the last 2 days because my case on sandroba was retarded. Consider myself, VE and hiro to be confirmed townies from now on. I'd very much like to get us 3 on the list of protection as well because if mafia shoots one of us that's making the next lynch a little bit harder for you because we're confirmed imo. | ||
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On January 21 2012 12:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Have you ever heard of reads being too accurate? And look how much you flaunt it so... don't pull a wbg on me. First I'm suspicious because I'm useless and my reads are of no value and now I'm suspicious because I'm too awesome? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://410chan.ru/b/src/132090396583.png) Yes I am flaunting, my ego needed that after the last couple of days. | ||
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On January 21 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote: With that said, I want to take a closer look at bum because of how hard he defended sandro. I also still want to look at Toad because something still is weird about him. Bussing sandro isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, because sandro has 0 confidence in his scum play. It has happened before, even. Ok srsly, there's nothing I can do to help you wbg. If you still don't consider myself to MAYBE be town after I got shot, claimed vet and now everything that happend I realy can't do a thing about it. I'll ignore everything you're saying about me from now on. You're tunneling me like crazy and I don't know why. Get over it. Oh and I'd say we should also look into the people who voted GGQ and not only (like wbg said) into people who voted KJ. I'm not saying that because I did vote KJ (see? I was wrong!) but because I was mafia last time with sandroba. This is important: in XLVIII Sandroba was Scum and was AFK ALL the time. He did not show up in our irc channel and we literally did never know if he's going to be modkilled or not because he never showed up and noone knew if he was going to vote or send in his nightactions (don't recall if he had anything). I had to shoot him pm's to get at least some basic strategies (although wbg will claim that mafia did not use strategy in this game at all).VE and Jackal can vouch for that, they were mafia in that game as well. We even got some funny situations because of that. One time Sandroba was bussing VE and VE was not aware of that. When he found out about it he was raging mad and typing in all caps in our irc channel. It could very well be the same in this game and Mafia had no idea if sandroba would show up or not. I'm off to bed now, cya tomorrow. | ||
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On January 21 2012 20:00 Jayjay54 wrote: I hate post like that. Directing medics is a fucking aweful Idea. This doesn't encourage a medic to protect him, it actually makes him WIFOM if he really should protect him, because mafia is reading this very post. STOP DIRECTING BLUES. Trust them, they've been pretty great so far and know what they're doing. Especially N1: N1 red DT check, N1 medic save. Also 2 great vig shots. noone is directing blues. I'm just saying (and everyone else) thata I think it could ver well happen that VE or I get shot again. Especially after that sandroba lynch and well hiro is a dt. I'm not telling people to safe us like a mad man and everyone on us. I'm telling people that imo we 3 are all "noobs" and therefore people might not think about us. It's not an advice to protect us but an advice to think about us :p | ||
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When BC answered jackals question (along the lines "how do you vets talk with eatch other?") bc promptly said he's a mason. Foolish however said it's a game of realizing wether those 3 are taking the same path or not. Looked to me like he was not masoned. Protact did not say a word about it but I'd still like to see a log. At least something I don't want to run into a jack. Yeah I know, I thought myself when KJ posted that bc-might-be-joat-post that it's fearmongering but I actually take it as a viable option right now. | ||
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On January 22 2012 00:57 Jayjay54 wrote: you weren't even involved in this, why are you defending yourself? and yes, that was directing blues. I am confident in our blues, they gonna nail it. that's all on that topic. I am pretty sure the medics know what to do and this is not getting us anyway! So toad, who's next on you lynch list? I'm defending me because someone CC & Jitsu, said the exact same thing about me after the lynch because I said: On January 21 2012 12:17 Toadesstern wrote: TOLD YA GUYS. Thx for bitchslapping me left and right the last 2 days because my case on sandroba was retarded. Consider myself, VE and hiro to be confirmed townies from now on. I'd very much like to get us 3 on the list of protection as well because if mafia shoots one of us that's making the next lynch a little bit harder for you because we're confirmed imo. it really is not a "you have to protect me or VE or hiro" but rather a "I think we got a couple of viable protection-options right now, like maybe 6 and I'd like those 3 to be within that group of viable protection from now on as well". You still get to make your own decicion I just wanted to point that out because again, hiro+VE+myself are all 3 noobs and there's bound to be some guys who are not reading this properly. Also I highly doubt that we actually got 10 medics. I'm happy with mafia shooting someone else because they're to scared of wifom. about the lynch question. That's still where I'm at right now. Haven't looked into it yet: On January 21 2012 12:29 Toadesstern wrote: I'd be up to lynch bum and my intuition tells me to look into BC although I ruled that out d1. | ||
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On January 22 2012 01:12 Toadesstern wrote: I'm defending me because CC & Jitsu, said the exact same thing about me after the lynch because I said: it really is not a "you have to protect me or VE or hiro" but rather a "I think we got a couple of viable protection-options right now, like maybe 6 and I'd like those 3 to be within that group of viable protection from now on as well". You still get to make your own decicion I just wanted to point that out because again, hiro+VE+myself are all 3 noobs and there's bound to be some guys who are not reading this properly. Also I highly doubt that we actually got 10 medics. I'm happy with mafia shooting someone else because they're to scared of wifom. about the lynch question. That's still where I'm at right now. Haven't looked into it yet: EBWOP. Had "someone" in my first sentence and figured when I have to go and look that quote up I might as well just look up who the guy was that attacked me for it :p | ||
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What do you think about CC? There's a lot comming down to the question if he's mafia or town. So far I thought he's town, had a slight scumleaning later on because I felt like he did that on purpose and right now I'm back on town but I already said d1 that I'm gaving a really hard time judging CC this game. | ||
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