What's this? A PM game with Sinani206 in it? AND it's super-crazy?
COUNT ME /IN !
Now, I know what you're thinking. "Oh no, not Nisani201, the guy who always lurks and is useless all the time!" But then you would be wrong. Because I am going to contribute a lot. Definitely. So hold back your votes.
On August 11 2011 09:09 Nisani201 wrote: Actually, me and Palmar are changing places. So I will now be the super-active one, while Palmar will post very little and be scummy.
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote: btw Nisani is scum
On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote: Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.
This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.
Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.
Spam pisses me off. You should know that by now. I go after spammers pretty much every game. Read some of GMarshal's first posts. He's got the idea of how to do it properly - take the lead, start setting up a pro-town atmosphere. In other words, don't derp and start accusing people of anything. That just wastes time.
You're making a HUGE deal about a useless post at the start of the game. Seriously, they're all irrelevant, even if they're spam. It's stupid to start an argument about it.
The loonybin chat is being logged at http://nisani.x10.mx/loonybin.txt , so if you don't want to use IRC but still want to see what's going on, you can look in there.
Traits are not alignment based so anyone with the following traits should openly claim immediately:
- Rivals should claim once Day 1 has started. Rivals are much more likely to be townies than Mafia. Mafia already have their rivals: the town. Not only this, it puts into perspective your motivations in getting specific people killed. If you prove yourself useful and don't fuck things up you will be assisted where possible in achieving your goals.
- Short Fuse should claim and never use their power of modkill. If you fail or succeed, deliberately goading people will shit up the thread to no end. Also it makes us seriously consider the lynching of a Short Fuse, the potential of having a VisceraEyes/BC event needs to be known beforehand.
- Rabid Fanboy #1. You are essentially a mayor. Do not use this power without first putting it out in the open. We get a replacement if you die anyway so you are not as important as other roles, no need to hide.
- Thief. The rapidly increasing chances of being instalynched as roles are stolen means that scum theives would be unlikely to risk stealing a role a second time, 1for1 trades are not good for Mafia. Claim outright so we can work out when and if you use your role.
Additionally, all players should claim their roles, traits and alignments to me via PM asap :D
VOTING
Multiple lynches should be avoided on the first few days. We can save them until later when we have more information. Especially with the Night 0 start where people will probably die before we can get a lynch off, we can't just start offing large numbers of people straight away if we mislynch we get fucked much quicker.
CELLS
Are stupid. From what I have read in past games everyone ignores them and chooses to PM whoever they please. I am in favour of communicating with who you want and whoever wants to talk to you, forcing people into an arbitrarily formed cell doesn't make sense when the formation of such groups can easily be biased.
Discuss!
Wouldn't claiming rival be a great way for scum to hide their attempts to get town lynched.
"oh i was just trying to get that townie lynched because i was his rival sorry guiz"
If the rivals claim asap, then this defence is not available. We get rivals, if they exist, to claim now. Then we ignore them until later in the game and decide who we want to win amongst them. Townies are not going to team up with mafia to get their rival killed because they still lose if town loses. They will have to play a town game anyeay and the more they do the more likely we will help them with their individual win condition.
Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start. Sounds like rivals could be of any alignment man.
Yeah, but if a rival would be scum-aligned, wouldn't that make it too easy?
On August 15 2011 06:44 slam500 wrote: ok so no1s really talking so i figured out id start up the conversation i like The Plan! its a good one, also if we multilynch (coined a new term ) too soon well unnecessarilly kick people out and we dont want to end up eliminating, say, our doctor or other beneficial roles too early (well... really at all) i would like to hear others opinions so that we can really formulate a plan
I completely agree. However, I do thik the the multilynch can be useful if we have confirmed scum but don't want to waste a vigi hit on it.
On August 15 2011 08:22 TheAwesomeAll wrote: so you think we should hold off discussion on Varp's FoS on Slam until Slam gets a chance to defend himself?
Well I would not say discussion hold think on FoS defense against Varp until should think roleclaim.
On August 14 2011 12:00 Ciryandor wrote: Be reminded that it is a Night 0 deadline and that you have 36 hours to choose your scan/spy whatever targets.
This seemed to indicate no KPs first night
It says "whatever" meaning more than just scum/spy. Why are you defending Nisani?
Maybe he doesn't want a townie to get lynched because of stupid evidence like that.
In other news, I think we should start discussing Slam. He hasn't posted yet, but I don't really see what information we would gain from him "defending" himself that isn't already in Varp's chat log. And I highly doubt that the logs are fake because it's so easy for Slam to just nullify them anyways. What are people's thoughts?
Forumite isn't a good lynch for today. Though it might seem like he is just randomly babbling on about stuff if you look through the filter, it should be noted that they were mainly responding to someone else. So it's not spam.
On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it.
See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir)
We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead...
So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one.
You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARES
Discussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult!
In other news, water is wet.
For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite
I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite aware
As for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position?
see red.
What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting.
On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote: ##vote nisani201 Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.
I did give a good defense, and you were in the IRC chatroom while it happened. Don't lie about that shit. (The chat starts at the bottom and ends at the top)
14:07 < shinbi> i see 14:06 < Nisani201> so I said that I wasn't sure 14:06 < Nisani201> t as obvious as i thought 14:06 < Nisani201> And then I thought, if he was asking that question, then maybe the answer wasn' 14:06 < shinbi> and then? 14:06 < shinbi> so you thought 'ah, no kp due to night post, let's say that!' 14:05 < shinbi> just run me through the thought process here 14:05 < Nisani201> i'm confused as to what you want me to respond to now 14:05 < Nisani201> i just said 14:05 < shinbi> ? 14:04 < shinbi> and then 14:04 < shinbi> so you posted that with certainty due to that reasoning 14:04 < shinbi> ok nisani 14:04 < shinbi> hold on taa 14:04 < taa> then why didnt you say that? 14:03 < Nisani201> and I figured that there would be no KP because the night post didn't mention sending in kills 14:02 < shinbi> and then? 14:02 < Nisani201> i said it with complete certainty by instinct, because saying things tentatively is even worse 14:02 < Sknowman> "at least, i don't think they can" 14:01 < Sknowman> discrediting it 14:01 < Sknowman> then quickly made a post 14:01 < Sknowman> why you said with complete certainty "Scum had no KP" 14:01 < Sknowman> about 14:01 < Nisani201> ? 14:01 < Nisani201> about how I thought mafia didn't have any KP last night 14:00 < Sknowman> everything we just talked about 14:00 < Nisani201> explain what 13:59 < Sknowman> care to explain? 13:59 < Sknowman> nisani
I'd vote for you, but unfortunately you probably wont get lynched because I guess I'm the only one who sees through this bullshit. So instead I'm going to vote for the second best lynch, which is slam500.
On August 16 2011 04:08 Nisani201 wrote: At least, I don't think they can.
This is the scum slip imo. not that he thinks that mafia didn't have any KP. Why would he try to make himself look like he wasn't sure unless after he posted he realized it wasn't common knowledge. I mean most people prob thought that the scum must not have had KP last night but hes the person who said it then tried to make it look like he wasn't certain.
Did you read the chat logs? I explained the reasoning for that post in the chat logs.
Here is another reason why slam500 is a better lynch, he provides more information than me. From the IRC: (this one starts at the top like a normal convo)
01:27 < Varpulis> the alignments of the guys defending you 01:27 < Nisani201> who is defending m 01:27 < Varpulis> or at least hints to it 01:27 < Varpulis> ON 01:27 < Nisani201> if i flip town, ON could still be mafia 01:27 < Nisani201> trying to make friends 01:29 -!- Kurumi [Kurumi@host-81-190-111-34.gdynia.mm.pl] has quit [Ping timeout] 01:29 < Varpulis> good point 01:29 < Varpulis> but if you're mafia, guess who's also mafia? 01:29 < Nisani201> who? 01:29 < Varpulis> ON, for defending you to the last 01:30 < Nisani201> what if ON is a dt 01:30 < Nisani201> and detected me last night 01:30 < Nisani201> oh well i guess you're under the assumption that i'm scum, so that doesn't work 01:31 < Navillus> also i think greymist is still much more suspicious if you flip scum, i mean it would be really stupid to have 2 scum defend you hard bc then if we lynch you theyre really fucked 01:32 < Nisani201> the problem with you're plan 01:32 < Nisani201> is that i'm not scum 01:32 < Navillus> well i saw that coming 01:32 < Nisani201> if I flip townie, what information will you gain? 01:33 < Nisani201> furthermore, if slam500 gets lynched, it provides information on navillus 01:33 < Nisani201> not matter which way he flips 01:33 < Navillus> if you flip town i will gain info, less info and harder to find info but i will gain it 01:33 < Nisani201> what info is gained if i flip town? 01:33 < Nisani201> brb 01:34 < Navillus> now i would share but im actually working under the assumption that you will have bright red blood when we kill you and so that would be a bad idea 01:36 < Nisani201> so if i flip town 01:36 < Nisani201> no information will be gained
slam is a better lynch than me because he provides information on Nav not matter which way he flips, while lynching me will only provide information if I am scum. But that doesn't work because I'm not scum.
On August 17 2011 05:40 Navillus wrote: That seems to talk about why you are a good lynch... also I like, no I actually love how you're saying that varp and I are the "defenders" of slam when we are 2 of the 3 people voting for him right now
On August 17 2011 06:55 Sknowman wrote: I'm changing my vote to Nisani. After seeing his defense and the other chat (the one I wasn't in), it's all pretty weak. I was torn between him and Forumite anyways.
My defense is no weaker than the initial evidence against me.
On August 17 2011 09:17 TheAwesomeAll wrote: ok nisani, whenever you check someone just tell us if hes town or not. Pm the guy you tested his role so that you cant fake your role and dont have to out blues. With that in mind you dont need to get lynched since you cant fake your role. with other words : you check x pm x's role to x x says in thread nisani is right and that for a day of 3 ##unvote
I like this plan.
On August 17 2011 09:35 Jackal58 wrote: So Nisani who would you like to see lynched and why?
I would like to see slam500 or TAA lynched. Slam500 for reasons I stated earlier (he provides information) but also TAA, mainly for this post:
On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote: ##vote nisani201 Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.
This is not OMGUS. If he were town-aligned then he would have no reason to state what I put in bold. It is a flat out lie.
Original Message From Nisani201: I've taken my vote off of you. I'm checking you tonight. If I die tonight., then you're in bad shape.
Original Message From DropBear: I don't really understand where your scum claim has come from. We hadn't spoken up until now and I'm the only person who has actually discussed a plan in thread, for good or for bad.
I've opened the lines of communication and claimed to you. If you want to talk to me then I'll listen. If you want to be a dick then I'll protect someone else. Up to you.
Original Message From Nisani201: Even if you are a medic, I don't need you. There's probably more than one.
Original Message From DropBear: Rofl. I guess I'll go protect someone else then.
Original Message From Nisani201: Yes the claim is legit. I'm a Banling.
I don't want to work with scum.
Original Message From DropBear: Is it legit?
Look me in the eyes and tell me you are telling the truth.
You are voting for me despite the fact that we have had zero interaction. Why?
If you want me to work with you then you gotta be transparent.
During that time, I stated in the thread that DropBear would be checked instead of JeeJee. I then sent a PM to Curu with this message:
DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
I received no reply to the message, and DropBear was killed tonight. So this means that Curu told his scum buddies that DropBear was healing me, and then he died.
,,,and then there's Jackal. Not sure where he came from, but I did get this PM from DropBear (subject was "If i die"):
Original Message From DropBear: Jackal is scum. Assuming you aren't as well
As for the Jackal thing, I'm guessing DropBear sent a message to Jackal similar to the one that was sent to Curu. But I don't have any more information.
On August 18 2011 02:53 Nisani201 wrote: Curu or Jackal is scum.
Wait, what? Where did Curu come from?
Well, I'll tell you where. Let's go back to PM land.
Original Message From DropBear: I understand.
Original Message From Nisani201: I've taken my vote off of you. I'm checking you tonight. If I die tonight., then you're in bad shape.
Original Message From DropBear: I don't really understand where your scum claim has come from. We hadn't spoken up until now and I'm the only person who has actually discussed a plan in thread, for good or for bad.
I've opened the lines of communication and claimed to you. If you want to talk to me then I'll listen. If you want to be a dick then I'll protect someone else. Up to you.
Original Message From Nisani201: Even if you are a medic, I don't need you. There's probably more than one.
Original Message From DropBear: Rofl. I guess I'll go protect someone else then.
Original Message From Nisani201: Yes the claim is legit. I'm a Banling.
I don't want to work with scum.
Original Message From DropBear: Is it legit?
Look me in the eyes and tell me you are telling the truth.
You are voting for me despite the fact that we have had zero interaction. Why?
If you want me to work with you then you gotta be transparent.
During that time, I stated in the thread that DropBear would be checked instead of JeeJee. I then sent a PM to Curu with this message:
DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
I received no reply to the message, and DropBear was killed tonight. So this means that Curu told his scum buddies that DropBear was healing me, and then he died.
,,,and then there's Jackal. Not sure where he came from, but I did get this PM from DropBear (subject was "If i die"):
Original Message From DropBear: Jackal is scum. Assuming you aren't as well
I find it curious that JeeJee died and You were up to check him.
On August 18 2011 03:11 Jackal58 wrote: Chaos/Curu has not posted enough for me to call either way. Drop Bear never claimed to me in PM land. We did discuss the efficacy of a double lynch.
Then why would DropBear tell me that you are scum if he dies?
The fact that you're lying about any kind of PM contact makes me want to kill you.
Can you people please use PM quotes properly? Just hit the "reply" button in a PM conversation and copy-paste the reply box in here. It's MUCH easier to understand.
Original Message From Nisani201: DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
This is the PM Nisani sent me. I had done nothing at that point to warrant anyone claiming any power roles to me (this was before GreyMist flipped). I am not stupid enough not to realize this was obviously fishing to see if I was scum and would hit DropBear.
Analyze my posts if you think I'm scum, but don't insult me with the assumption that I'm a herpderp retard and would hit someone when it was clear Nisani was fishing it from me.
That wasn't meant to be fishing, and I don't think that you're scum. Jackal is the one whom I think is scum. I sent it to you because I thought you were trustworthy enough (based on this) to take down DropBear if I died (remember that at this point I didn't 100% trust DropBear).
On August 18 2011 03:44 Curu wrote: I can't when it's from my sent folder.
Original Message From Nisani201: DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
This is the PM Nisani sent me. I had done nothing at that point to warrant anyone claiming any power roles to me (this was before GreyMist flipped). I am not stupid enough not to realize this was obviously fishing to see if I was scum and would hit DropBear.
Analyze my posts if you think I'm scum, but don't insult me with the assumption that I'm a herpderp retard and would hit someone when it was clear Nisani was fishing it from me.
That wasn't meant to be fishing, and I don't think that you're scum. Jackal is the one whom I think is scum. I sent it to you because I thought you were trustworthy enough (based on this) to take down DropBear if I died (remember that at this point I didn't 100% trust DropBear).
It doesn't matter why you sent the name of our medic to anybody on day 1. It was moronic. If anybody else PMs you they're acting like morons too. If I was scum you'd be dead right now. But you're not dead because you're scum. I know this because you forgot to claim being role blocked. If you are DT you were either killed or role blocked last night. Neither happened. What happened? Our medic died. Ya the same one that claimed to you. You're scum bro.
Don't you understand? Scum killed DropBear BECAUSE either you or someone not in the scumteam would use it against me. Killing me via lynch is a chain in their combo streak, whereas killing me last night might not have worked in case there were more medics/protectors on me.
On August 18 2011 03:44 Curu wrote: I can't when it's from my sent folder.
Original Message From Nisani201: DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
This is the PM Nisani sent me. I had done nothing at that point to warrant anyone claiming any power roles to me (this was before GreyMist flipped). I am not stupid enough not to realize this was obviously fishing to see if I was scum and would hit DropBear.
Analyze my posts if you think I'm scum, but don't insult me with the assumption that I'm a herpderp retard and would hit someone when it was clear Nisani was fishing it from me.
That wasn't meant to be fishing, and I don't think that you're scum. Jackal is the one whom I think is scum. I sent it to you because I thought you were trustworthy enough (based on this) to take down DropBear if I died (remember that at this point I didn't 100% trust DropBear).
It doesn't matter why you sent the name of our medic to anybody on day 1. It was moronic. If anybody else PMs you they're acting like morons too. If I was scum you'd be dead right now. But you're not dead because you're scum. I know this because you forgot to claim being role blocked. If you are DT you were either killed or role blocked last night. Neither happened. What happened? Our medic died. Ya the same one that claimed to you. You're scum bro.
Don't you understand? Scum killed DropBear BECAUSE either you or someone not in the scumteam would use it against me. Killing me via lynch is a chain in their combo streak, whereas killing me last night might not have worked in case there were more medics/protectors on me.
What did you get back on your DropBear check? I know it's a redundant question but answer it anyways.
DropBear returned Townie.
On August 18 2011 07:49 Forumite wrote: Impressive on the scumhit, that doesn´t happen very often on the first day. As for the deaths, the wording suggests that it was two scumkills and one vigihit. If a normal game has 40 players, 8 scum and 4 scumKP, then we can assume we have 4 scum (now 3) with 2 scumKP in this game with 21 players. Too bad about Navillus.
On August 18 2011 03:44 Curu wrote: I can't when it's from my sent folder.
Original Message From Nisani201: DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
This is the PM Nisani sent me. I had done nothing at that point to warrant anyone claiming any power roles to me (this was before GreyMist flipped). I am not stupid enough not to realize this was obviously fishing to see if I was scum and would hit DropBear.
Analyze my posts if you think I'm scum, but don't insult me with the assumption that I'm a herpderp retard and would hit someone when it was clear Nisani was fishing it from me.
That wasn't meant to be fishing, and I don't think that you're scum. Jackal is the one whom I think is scum. I sent it to you because I thought you were trustworthy enough (based on this) to take down DropBear if I died (remember that at this point I didn't 100% trust DropBear).
It doesn't matter why you sent the name of our medic to anybody on day 1. It was moronic. If anybody else PMs you they're acting like morons too. If I was scum you'd be dead right now. But you're not dead because you're scum. I know this because you forgot to claim being role blocked. If you are DT you were either killed or role blocked last night. Neither happened. What happened? Our medic died. Ya the same one that claimed to you. You're scum bro.
Don't you understand? Scum killed DropBear BECAUSE either you or someone not in the scumteam would use it against me. Killing me via lynch is a chain in their combo streak, whereas killing me last night might not have worked in case there were more medics/protectors on me.
What did you get back on your DropBear check? I know it's a redundant question but answer it anyways.
DropBear returned Townie.
On August 18 2011 07:49 Forumite wrote: Impressive on the scumhit, that doesn´t happen very often on the first day. As for the deaths, the wording suggests that it was two scumkills and one vigihit. If a normal game has 40 players, 8 scum and 4 scumKP, then we can assume we have 4 scum (now 3) with 2 scumKP in this game with 21 players. Too bad about Navillus.
There are no vigilantes.
Bullshit you lying scum. You claimed DT at least 20 hours before the flip. And you are going to try to tell us you weren't role blocked or killed? Bullshit. You are scum. Lying scum.
There are no roleblocking roles listed in the OP. And I was protected by DropBear. Get your facts straight.
On August 18 2011 08:32 Forumite wrote: I´m calling out lurkers. If they are actually active and talking in PMs or Irc, say so, so I can take them off the list. Only checking posts in the thread and Irc. I might have missed someone. Ignored Chaos13/Curu and Kurumi purposefully, and didn´t include extremely short posts, like /in and /confirm.
On August 15 2011 13:07 snotboogie wrote: I also am against claiming, especially this early in the game. Just doesn't make sense, it gives Mafia too much info.
On August 17 2011 14:46 snotboogie wrote: #vote slam500 as I believe his is the worst scum tell so far. Forumite looks dodgy too but I'm fine with letting him live today.
On August 15 2011 07:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote: all the talk about rival claiming is rubbish btw, its not in the interest of rivals to claim, so its not going to happen. for example: Riv1: im rival with riv2 riv2 : no he isnt. riv1 dies a horrible dead and riv 2 wins. Also if the become confirmed town there is no way they can lynch the other, wether its best for the town or not, there is no way in hell rivals are going to claim. Any 2 rivals that do claim are probably scum covering each other.
This very much makes and overall rivals shouldn't be important for all of the non-rivals (keep an eye out for any claims that seem like it just comes from another rival) but other than that we should really ignore the matter.
As for role-claiming I'm against it for now as all it does at this point is help the mafia pick targets. If anyone disagrees I'd be glad to hear why.
On August 17 2011 04:21 DroneAllDay wrote: Ok so from what I've seen I'm going to vote for Nisani off of what is a pretty bug scumslip. Which means that if Nisani is scum Greymist is definitely scum too. But first we need to lynch Nisani.
On August 17 2011 04:21 DroneAllDay wrote: Ack I meant scum not bug sorry iPods are really bad with auto correct.
On August 17 2011 11:18 Varpulis wrote: i'm going to sleep.
droneallday, why the stealth vote?
I believe that I covered the idea that Greymist was pretty scummy in the post where I voted for Nisani, and just from the influx of information I figured that changing votes was a good idea, sorry if it's standard to announce it, it's my first game of mafia.
Also Curu, I believe that if I have nothing unique to contribute then I shouldn't because all I give is more spam for the town to gather information from.
On August 15 2011 06:12 slam500 wrote: so do we pick our own traits?
Sure. Go ahead.
If you didn't receive a trait in your role PM you probably are just vanilla scum. I accidentally deleted my PM. Who's on our team again?
Errrr, ok?!
Also
Night 0 lasts until 5 pm CEST(00:00 am KST)?
On August 16 2011 00:06 Da-Muffinman wrote: So Kurumi is temp banned, how will this affect our Mafia Game?
Also, good morning.
On August 17 2011 19:01 Da-Muffinman wrote: Sorry Guys that I was absent the last ~ 30 Hours, written an Exam, getting drunk after it, dealing with the hangover, that kinda stuff.
I'm trying to catch up as fast as I can
Sinani206 1 postthread, although a lot of early Irc-posting + Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2011 08:22 TheAwesomeAll wrote: so you think we should hold off discussion on Varp's FoS on Slam until Slam gets a chance to defend himself?
Well I would not say discussion hold think on FoS defense against Varp until should think roleclaim.
Is it just me or does the grammar in this post not make any sense?
Anyway, I do think it is a little early for an FoS, especially on a new player like Slam, but it is a good way for him to learn. We should treat everyone the same (except Kenpachi, but I don't think he's in this game) so we shouldn't baby Slam. Discussion of the FoS should continue as usual just like any other.
On August 16 2011 21:44 Sknowman wrote: Forumite gave me a scummy vibe from the beginning. His posts are empty, and it seems like he's just a distraction to town. Everything he says is irrelevant, even his defense of him being lynched. Overall, he seems scummier.
Voting Forumite. For the reasons above, plus his recent defense was not satisfactory for me.
the problem with this though, is if we are to believe Nisani's claim, Is that he was checked town. I guess you dont think Nisani is telling the truth right?
On August 19 2011 11:52 Varpulis wrote: ##vote Nisani201
Nisani's claim is very convenient. I just read the role list again, and he's not a cop, he's a journalist. In a nutshell, journalists don't find scum and can't. it's an investigative role that will return town 80% of the time. That safe a claim, combined with the fact that the medic that claimed to him just kicked the bucket make me very skeptical.
Also, i've got a pretty solid town read on Jackal.
Has anybody claimed the kill on Navillus, or was that a scumhit? It was separated from the other two kills last night, so I'm inclined to believe that we have a vig.
Complete bullshit, for two reasons.
1) Journalists can find scum. And if you're going with the fact that I am a Journalist/Banling, why are you voting for me? I'm still a resource.
2) Where did you get that 80% statistic from? The role distribution is not public knowledge.
On August 17 2011 09:35 Jackal58 wrote: Alright Nisani. My vote is off of you. I've watched you defend yourself from a lynch as scum and as a townie. Townie wins in this comparison. So Nisani who would you like to see lynched and why?
Oh and hi Curu. Didn't I just see you in another game?
This was your post when Nisani first claimed DT, why the sudden surety about him now?
Because he survived. Because he knew who the medic was. Because he claimed to have checked a dead guy.
If you claim DT and a medic PMs you to tell you who you he is and that he will protect you that's not the guy you do a DT check on. If he's lying and he's scum you are dead anyways. If he's telling the truth you'll be alive in the morning. He's scum. He's claiming he checked the medic that he killed. There is so much wrong with this it's not even funny.
I checked DropBear because I was still suspicious.
On August 20 2011 05:38 Curu wrote: That's a nice contradiction from yesterday. I didn't think you could be scum because I was convinced Jackal, GreyMisT, and Forumite were scum together, but maybe what Jackal was saying actually has some merit.
Can you explain why you're still alive if you're a claimed DT with the Medic dead?
I told you about DropBear. DropBear died, and Jackal didn't kill him.