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On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting.
My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum.
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On August 16 2011 10:33 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting. My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum. hmm i don't think you understand. nothing about my vote is random, and i don't do pressure votes because they're a waste of time. when i vote, i think that person is a good candidate to die at the time. this means you. and yes, posting irrelevant stuff about multilynching is indeed not contributing. what exactly are you waiting for before you start contributing? if the deadline was in 5 minutes, you're the best candidate, wouldn't you agree? The deadline isn´t in 5 minutes...
And you are wrong, discussing tactics is important, because things like massclaiming and multilynching needs a following to be of any use.
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On August 16 2011 10:34 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting. The chatroom is being logged at http://nisani.x10.mx/loonybin.txt Thanks.
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JeeJee, for some one accusing me of useless posts and not saying anything, you really should pick up on your own posting. + Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 00:37 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 23:12 Varpulis wrote:On August 15 2011 13:53 hiro protagonist wrote:good day all, Im here to slay me some werewolves! Claiming is bad, don't do it in thread or PM. Plans that involve claiming to one person before there has even been a lynch suck. Unless Ciryandor comes in and says "hey btw hiro protagonist is town", its not worth it. Scum hunting in PM land is OP See you in the morning! amigo, do you have anything other than the obvious to tell us? Do you think that slam500 and Forumite are scummy, and why? As soon as the day rolls around i'm going to send a pm to everybody who hasn't posted at all to prompt them. Too many vets are lurking in this game. do you? On August 16 2011 02:33 JeeJee wrote:discussing claim strategies for roles that may not even be in the game is a waste of time, drop it. Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:06 Da-Muffinman wrote: So Kurumi is temp banned, how will this affect our Mafia Game?
Also, good morning.
good morning to you too. enjoy the night? On August 16 2011 08:10 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 08:07 Jackal58 wrote:Dear JeeJee, This: + Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 00:37 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 23:12 Varpulis wrote:On August 15 2011 13:53 hiro protagonist wrote:good day all, Im here to slay me some werewolves! Claiming is bad, don't do it in thread or PM. Plans that involve claiming to one person before there has even been a lynch suck. Unless Ciryandor comes in and says "hey btw hiro protagonist is town", its not worth it. Scum hunting in PM land is OP See you in the morning! amigo, do you have anything other than the obvious to tell us? Do you think that slam500 and Forumite are scummy, and why? As soon as the day rolls around i'm going to send a pm to everybody who hasn't posted at all to prompt them. Too many vets are lurking in this game. do you? Followed by this: + Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 02:33 JeeJee wrote:discussing claim strategies for roles that may not even be in the game is a waste of time, drop it. Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:06 Da-Muffinman wrote: So Kurumi is temp banned, how will this affect our Mafia Game?
Also, good morning.
good morning to you too. enjoy the night? Just screams "I'm scum" to me. Sorry. Your Friend, Jackal58. Dear GreYMisT Your immediate soft defense of your scum buddy screams louder. get a hearing aid On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. On August 16 2011 11:29 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 11:04 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:33 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting. My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum. hmm i don't think you understand. nothing about my vote is random, and i don't do pressure votes because they're a waste of time. when i vote, i think that person is a good candidate to die at the time. this means you. and yes, posting irrelevant stuff about multilynching is indeed not contributing. what exactly are you waiting for before you start contributing? if the deadline was in 5 minutes, you're the best candidate, wouldn't you agree? The deadline isn´t in 5 minutes... And you are wrong, discussing tactics is important, because things like massclaiming and multilynching needs a following to be of any use. oh you're right, the deadline isn't in five minutes thanks so much for clearing that up. whew.
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Does Trotske talk any in PMs? There´s not much in the Irc from him, just "Watch Hiro" and "Let´s troll"
There were a few other very slow posters, and Kurumi of course. It´s easier to get away with lurking in a PM game, because everyone assume they talk to someone else, which is why we have to ask others if the slow players are lurking or not.
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I´m putting out a FoS on JeeJee. No posts N0, nothing concrete since then. Spamming Irc under another name and being a general troll. While the sum of his irc-posts are very large, most posts are less than 5 words, they are comments, not analysis, which is what we need in this game. FoS JeeJee
As there is no chance of THAT lynch going through, I´m voting for Nisani. He did a scumslip, which might not be that damning, but his defence doesn´t quite add up. It´s partly because of that, and because of basic survival instinct. ##Vote: Nisani201
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On August 17 2011 10:41 Navillus wrote: I'm voting forumite until he comes out and gives us a more recent opinion than that jump on the nisani wagon and FoS of jeejee.
##Vote: Forumite I did a FoS because it had to be done, but I´m not wasting my vote if I don´t think JeeJee is going to get lynched.
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About Nisanis201's rolecheck, I can confirm it, his check result is correct. It doesn´t make him a confirmed Blue, but it gives us enough reason to not lynch him right now.
We don´t want to lynch a possible Nisani201, the next candidates are Slam500 and Greymist. Between those, Greymist at least posts in the thread, from looking at the thread and cursory glance at the Irc-chat, Slam500 dropped out of the game a day ago. I´m not sure if I´m here for the deadline, so my vote goes out now.
##Unvote Nisani201 ##Vote: Slam500
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Impressive on the scumhit, that doesn´t happen very often on the first day. As for the deaths, the wording suggests that it was two scumkills and one vigihit. If a normal game has 40 players, 8 scum and 4 scumKP, then we can assume we have 4 scum (now 3) with 2 scumKP in this game with 21 players. Too bad about Navillus.
On August 18 2011 07:08 DroneAllDay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 10:41 Navillus wrote: I'm voting forumite until he comes out and gives us a more recent opinion than that jump on the nisani wagon and FoS of jeejee.
##Vote: Forumite I almost forgot to mention this too, the late Navillus was also gunning for him some. It looks almost too perfect, doesn´t it? Of course I´m going to get into the spotlight if I got voted on the day before, then right after two who accused me of being scummy got killed. Anyway it doesn´t quite add up, if the daypost can be trusted, then JeeJee was hit by Scum, Navillus was hit by a Vigi.
I´ll think I´ll try a general postcount before we get to p51, there are several lurkers in the game, and I trust my numbers and analysis more than my scumsense.
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I´m calling out lurkers. If they are actually active and talking in PMs or Irc, say so, so I can take them off the list. Only checking posts in the thread and Irc. I might have missed someone. Ignored Chaos13/Curu and Kurumi purposefully, and didn´t include extremely short posts, like /in and /confirm.
Snotboogie 2 threadposts, no Irc. + Show Spoiler +On August 15 2011 13:07 snotboogie wrote: I also am against claiming, especially this early in the game. Just doesn't make sense, it gives Mafia too much info. On August 17 2011 14:46 snotboogie wrote: #vote slam500 as I believe his is the worst scum tell so far. Forumite looks dodgy too but I'm fine with letting him live today. DroneAllDay 4 threadposts, no Irc. (OMGUS) + Show Spoiler +On August 15 2011 07:24 DroneAllDay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote: all the talk about rival claiming is rubbish btw, its not in the interest of rivals to claim, so its not going to happen. for example: Riv1: im rival with riv2 riv2 : no he isnt. riv1 dies a horrible dead and riv 2 wins. Also if the become confirmed town there is no way they can lynch the other, wether its best for the town or not, there is no way in hell rivals are going to claim. Any 2 rivals that do claim are probably scum covering each other. This very much makes and overall rivals shouldn't be important for all of the non-rivals (keep an eye out for any claims that seem like it just comes from another rival) but other than that we should really ignore the matter. As for role-claiming I'm against it for now as all it does at this point is help the mafia pick targets. If anyone disagrees I'd be glad to hear why. On August 17 2011 04:21 DroneAllDay wrote: Ok so from what I've seen I'm going to vote for Nisani off of what is a pretty bug scumslip. Which means that if Nisani is scum Greymist is definitely scum too. But first we need to lynch Nisani. On August 17 2011 04:21 DroneAllDay wrote: Ack I meant scum not bug sorry iPods are really bad with auto correct. On August 18 2011 04:48 DroneAllDay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 11:18 Varpulis wrote: i'm going to sleep.
droneallday, why the stealth vote? I believe that I covered the idea that Greymist was pretty scummy in the post where I voted for Nisani, and just from the influx of information I figured that changing votes was a good idea, sorry if it's standard to announce it, it's my first game of mafia. Also Curu, I believe that if I have nothing unique to contribute then I shouldn't because all I give is more spam for the town to gather information from. Da-Muffinman 3 threadposts, no Irc. + Show Spoiler +On August 15 2011 06:28 Da-Muffinman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 06:15 Jackal58 wrote:On August 15 2011 06:12 slam500 wrote: so do we pick our own traits? Sure. Go ahead. If you didn't receive a trait in your role PM you probably are just vanilla scum. I accidentally deleted my PM. Who's on our team again? Errrr, ok?! Also Night 0 lasts until 5 pm CEST(00:00 am KST)? On August 16 2011 00:06 Da-Muffinman wrote: So Kurumi is temp banned, how will this affect our Mafia Game?
Also, good morning.
On August 17 2011 19:01 Da-Muffinman wrote: Sorry Guys that I was absent the last ~ 30 Hours, written an Exam, getting drunk after it, dealing with the hangover, that kinda stuff.
I'm trying to catch up as fast as I can Sinani206 1 postthread, although a lot of early Irc-posting + Show Spoiler +On August 15 2011 13:17 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 08:30 Nisani201 wrote:On August 15 2011 08:22 TheAwesomeAll wrote: so you think we should hold off discussion on Varp's FoS on Slam until Slam gets a chance to defend himself? Well I would not say discussion hold think on FoS defense against Varp until should think roleclaim. Is it just me or does the grammar in this post not make any sense? Anyway, I do think it is a little early for an FoS, especially on a new player like Slam, but it is a good way for him to learn. We should treat everyone the same (except Kenpachi, but I don't think he's in this game) so we shouldn't baby Slam. Discussion of the FoS should continue as usual just like any other.
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Okay, with Muffin and Sinani not having the time and about to be replaced, Snotboogie and DroneAllDay are the hardest lurkers in the game.
Just pointing out, these are not the only ones, just the ones with very few relevant posts, there are several at around 10 posts, and some with few threadposts but much more in the irc.
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On August 18 2011 09:23 Curu wrote: So which one do you think is more scummy Forumite? Of Snotboogie and DroneAllDay? I don´t think either is scum, not that I have any posts to base that one, but if they are not picking up the posting, then it doesn´t matter what they are, because not posting hurts Town just as much.
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Okay, something is going on here. Either Trotske and Hiro really are Rivals, and Hiro is trying to get Trotske killed by lying about it, Trotske is scum and is trying to get Hiro lynched with this rival accusation, or both are scum. They are both sticking to their stories, so it doesn´t look like Trotskes PM was a trick. Town don´t lie, but Rival Town has other priorities, they need to kill a player and stay alive, both are anti-Town goals, as they divert from scumhunting. Being rivals doesn´t make them Scum, but if they really are scum pretending to be Rivals, being known as Rivals is a good way to hide scummy behavior. I don´t like it, so I´m putting on the pressure.
##Vote: Trotske
Quoted posts: + Show Spoiler +Original Message From Trotske: I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist
Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.
I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.
If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also. On August 19 2011 07:11 hiro protagonist wrote: Cool story Trotske, but I am not your rival, so you dont have to worry about Me tunneling or killing you... at least, not until I think your scum
I PMed GMan, and he said it is possible for someone to have a rival that is not a rival back, so you might not be lying.
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On August 19 2011 07:18 Trotske wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 07:11 hiro protagonist wrote: Cool story Trotske, but I am not your rival, so you dont have to worry about Me tunneling or killing you... at least, not until I think your scum
I PMed GMan, and he said it is possible for someone to have a rival that is not a rival back, so you might not be lying. Are you a rival? This is a golden post.
Trotske, check your role PM, does it say Hiro is your Rival?
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On August 19 2011 08:17 hiro protagonist wrote: Forumite, I PMed GMan about how rivals work. He said It is possible to be someones rival, And not be one back. Nether of our story's are contradicting at this point.
Sense this has happened a couple of times I'm gonna say this: Dont post until you have fully read the thread plz! What are you talking about? The OP says the rivals know who their rival is.
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On August 19 2011 09:55 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 08:48 Jackal58 wrote:On August 19 2011 08:38 Forumite wrote:On August 19 2011 08:17 hiro protagonist wrote: Forumite, I PMed GMan about how rivals work. He said It is possible to be someones rival, And not be one back. Nether of our story's are contradicting at this point.
Sense this has happened a couple of times I'm gonna say this: Dont post until you have fully read the thread plz! What are you talking about? The OP says the rivals know who their rival is. This is to easy. GMarshall, can rivals work the way Hiro described?Dude seriously. Mods love to step on the heads of people that lie about talking to the mods. Rivals are not necessarily reciprocal, for example, Qatol could be my rival, but I might not be Qatol's rival
Also, about 14 hours left in the day. That clears it up. Trotske wants to kill Hiro, and none of them are lying.
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On August 19 2011 10:12 DroneAllDay wrote: with that said, I'm more confidant that Forumite is mafia so i'm voting for him due to the fact that the others i belive to be scum voted for greymist, that those who voted for him are dead (even if 1 of those was done by a vigilante hit, the other is still a scum hit) and his hight post count but a fair amount of them are just hello, good night, and other such no-content posts that feigns lurking.
##vote: Forumite I do my "hello" posts in here instead of in the Irc. As for other accusations, calling out a the Rivals isn´t a info post, it looked like a clear case where one was lying, until it was revealed that the OP was incorrect. There is one I can fully agree with, that I look confused, it´s because I am.
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On August 19 2011 12:47 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 11:52 Varpulis wrote: ##vote Nisani201
Nisani's claim is very convenient. I just read the role list again, and he's not a cop, he's a journalist. In a nutshell, journalists don't find scum and can't. it's an investigative role that will return town 80% of the time. That safe a claim, combined with the fact that the medic that claimed to him just kicked the bucket make me very skeptical.
Also, i've got a pretty solid town read on Jackal.
Has anybody claimed the kill on Navillus, or was that a scumhit? It was separated from the other two kills last night, so I'm inclined to believe that we have a vig. Complete bullshit, for two reasons. 1) Journalists can find scum. And if you're going with the fact that I am a Journalist/Banling, why are you voting for me? I'm still a resource. 2) Where did you get that 80% statistic from? The role distribution is not public knowledge. The role distribution is probabaly just a guestimate, what I think he´s getting at is that your role is a convenient role to pretend to be as scum, you look blue, but you only find millers, other blues and apprentices. All interesting information, but not amazing. So far you´ve checked Dropbear, after he died, and checked me, but even with your result, while correct, it doesn´t confirm me as a Townie, and people are still going after me. So far you haven´t been much help, to me or Town.
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Deadline in about 5 hours, and I´m going to miss it, again, so I'm voting now.
Trotske is acting scummy, and is out to kill Hiro, but that´s him being a Rival. Nisani will either give good information, die to Scum or we´ll lynch him in a few days. Forumite is an upstanding poster who doesn´t deserve to get voted out. That only leaves Jackal, whose scumhunting is a tad too scummy for me. I suspect he knew about different scumteams early on from his post about wondering which team he was in. It was a trick, but mentioning "team" could have been an unintentional scumslip.
##Vote: Jackal58
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Does this mean the day is extended, or that the voting is finished but the daypost is delayed?
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On August 20 2011 05:05 Nisani201 wrote: I don't know if Mafia can change who they kill, so I'm not going to tell anyone until day. Noone can change anything, votes and actions are set, it´s just the results that are a bit late.
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