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Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 14 2011 19:10 GMT
#161
On August 15 2011 03:58 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum

O RLY ?????///

I challenge you to prove me wrong.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 14 2011 19:35 GMT
#162
On August 15 2011 03:54 DropBear wrote:
Ok first couple of thoughts:

- Many of the usual suspects in speaking out early and setting the tone (e.g. sandroba, GMarshal) are not playing so people need to step up a bit more than usual.

- Blues look much less useful than usual. Both strains of detective can only detect certain scum, medics are either silencers or can't repeat saves, veterans don't even know they are veterans so they can't try to draw scum fire, watchers have a really small chance of getting any information until at least day 3. Not only this several traits which would normally could be considered blue roles are now possible Mafia roles. We need to win this through analysis.

- If there are any rivals in play, please delay your tunnelling until a bit later in the game. We don't want early lynches being concentrated on someone who only helps one person win the game, we need them to be Mafia. Worry about your evil twin later on.

i can guess what sandroba would do push this game : double lynches every day! and a mass roleclaim to coordinate the blues!!
as for your other points they are a trivial, i dont go into a mafia game hoping the blues hit something night 1.
dr Helvetica <3
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 14 2011 19:36 GMT
#163
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 19:38 GMT
#164
On August 15 2011 03:54 DropBear wrote:
Ok first couple of thoughts:

- Blues look much less useful than usual. Both strains of detective can only detect certain scum, medics are either silencers or can't repeat saves, veterans don't even know they are veterans so they can't try to draw scum fire, watchers have a really small chance of getting any information until at least day 3. Not only this several traits which would normally could be considered blue roles are now possible Mafia roles. We need to win this through analysis.


This. Also, Looks like from the role list that the Godfather can't contact the mafia right away. At least that gives us some sort of early game advantage. we really need to play this carefully due to the fact that multiple lynchings are possible. DropBear is right when he says we just need to play this smart.

Hoping my first game on TL doesnt end in rage and fire :D
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 14 2011 19:40 GMT
#165
On August 15 2011 03:54 DropBear wrote:- If there are any rivals in play, please delay your tunnelling until a bit later in the game. We don't want early lynches being concentrated on someone who only helps one person win the game, we need them to be Mafia. Worry about your evil twin later on.

It´s very hard to win as a Rival, you need to make sure the other one dies AND you need to survive, so I doubt that any rivals will follow your advice. Waiting to kill the rival helps town more than the surviving rival. They might, just don´t count on it.
:3
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 19:43 GMT
#166
On August 15 2011 04:36 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.

Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.
Life can only kill you once.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 14 2011 19:46 GMT
#167
On August 15 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 04:36 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.

Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.


Spam pisses me off. You should know that by now. I go after spammers pretty much every game. Read some of GMarshal's first posts. He's got the idea of how to do it properly - take the lead, start setting up a pro-town atmosphere. In other words, don't derp and start accusing people of anything. That just wastes time.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#168
On August 15 2011 04:46 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:36 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.

Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.


Spam pisses me off. You should know that by now. I go after spammers pretty much every game. Read some of GMarshal's first posts. He's got the idea of how to do it properly - take the lead, start setting up a pro-town atmosphere. In other words, don't derp and start accusing people of anything. That just wastes time.


Lol. Pretty much every game GMan starts with a town "how to" he's scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#169
shit jackal, he foiled our attempts to spread chaos in the first 5 posts of the game. What do you want us to talk about? whether or not to lynch lurkers? It's the same crap every game. At least random accusations get a discussion going.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#170
On August 15 2011 04:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 04:46 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:36 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.

Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.


Spam pisses me off. You should know that by now. I go after spammers pretty much every game. Read some of GMarshal's first posts. He's got the idea of how to do it properly - take the lead, start setting up a pro-town atmosphere. In other words, don't derp and start accusing people of anything. That just wastes time.


Lol. Pretty much every game GMan starts with a town "how to" he's scum.


You are one of the most irritating people to argue with ever.

chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 14 2011 19:53 GMT
#171
On August 15 2011 04:52 Varpulis wrote:
shit jackal, he foiled our attempts to spread chaos in the first 5 posts of the game. What do you want us to talk about? whether or not to lynch lurkers? It's the same crap every game. At least random accusations get a discussion going.


Well then screw this. Spam the thread to hell. Accuse people randomly. I don't care.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 14 2011 20:01 GMT
#172
On August 15 2011 04:52 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 04:50 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:46 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:36 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.

Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.


Spam pisses me off. You should know that by now. I go after spammers pretty much every game. Read some of GMarshal's first posts. He's got the idea of how to do it properly - take the lead, start setting up a pro-town atmosphere. In other words, don't derp and start accusing people of anything. That just wastes time.


Lol. Pretty much every game GMan starts with a town "how to" he's scum.


You are one of the most irritating people to argue with ever.


Indeed
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 20:03 GMT
#173
On August 15 2011 04:52 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 04:50 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:46 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:36 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.

Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.


Spam pisses me off. You should know that by now. I go after spammers pretty much every game. Read some of GMarshal's first posts. He's got the idea of how to do it properly - take the lead, start setting up a pro-town atmosphere. In other words, don't derp and start accusing people of anything. That just wastes time.


Lol. Pretty much every game GMan starts with a town "how to" he's scum.


You are one of the most irritating people to argue with ever.


:p

Sorry man but seriously. I knew my post was useless. GMan had just confirmed that indeed the game was on. I poked ON. Sorry if it offended you.
Now what exactly would you like to discuss right now? Should we start another 5 page dissertation on the semantics we wish to use to define a lurker? If you want to do that I'll return when you all are done.
I think we should begin with a discussion of the mechanics involved in the game. A lot of them are new to most of us. Not the roles but the traits. And the fact that traits can show up any where.
Life can only kill you once.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 20:07 GMT
#174
quick question about the thief trait. If the Thief is say a townie and robs a Mafia, will he become a member of the mafia and have effectively switched sides?
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#175
Do you guys think we should try to double and triple lynch? or should we just go after one person a day?
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 14 2011 20:12 GMT
#176
On August 15 2011 05:08 Sevryn wrote:
Do you guys think we should try to double and triple lynch? or should we just go after one person a day?

Maybe later on in the game. First and second day the likelihood of lynching more than 1 scum, or even lynching scum at all, is a good deal lower than in the late game, when connections can be found between players and it becomes possible to associate one scum with another.

If we can find scum on the first day we should lynch them, and not push our luck by lynching their best friend too.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
August 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#177
On August 15 2011 05:08 Sevryn wrote:
Do you guys think we should try to double and triple lynch? or should we just go after one person a day?


idk, the only thing that worries me about doing a multi lynch this early on is its potential to backfire incredibly on us. I think it might be a good idea to coordinate some later in the game though when we have a better idea of whats going on.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#178
who kills first? if we lynch a scum but they kill someone to make it so its even before the scum dies who wins?
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
August 14 2011 20:28 GMT
#179
On August 15 2011 04:46 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 04:43 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:36 chaos13 wrote:
On August 15 2011 03:44 Varpulis wrote:
btw Nisani is scum


On August 15 2011 03:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Sweet. ON has rabies and mange. Kill him with fire.



This kind of stuff is absolutely useless. Unless you two are trying to create chaos and confusion, I suggest you don't spam and don't label anyone as scum without providing a decent reason for it.

Of course it was useless. Wtf could I say of any use with the first post of the game? Let's start a Zodiac list? Let's lynch lurkers? Let's burn the witch? Wtf would you have liked it to say? A 200 word synopsis recapping the highlights of the town mafia guide? All useless shit as well but things scum love to hide in. Kind of like calling a useless post useless.


Spam pisses me off. You should know that by now. I go after spammers pretty much every game. Read some of GMarshal's first posts. He's got the idea of how to do it properly - take the lead, start setting up a pro-town atmosphere. In other words, don't derp and start accusing people of anything. That just wastes time.

You're making a HUGE deal about a useless post at the start of the game. Seriously, they're all irrelevant, even if they're spam. It's stupid to start an argument about it.
Enjoy your day.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#180
On August 15 2011 03:40 Varpulis wrote:
We need to be careful about lynches in this game. A lot of lynches have ended up tied in the past, and they worked out because of the most votes first mechanic(an example of this is DrH's experimental haunted mafia, day 1 lynch), but could end in disaster in this one. Double lynching by mistake is a good way to lose quickly and painfully.

Also, i'm going to be cracking down on people who are voting for people who are unlikely to get lynched without seriously pushing for such a lynch. It's practically an abstain vote, and abstain votes are scummy as all hell.

So what you're saying is if we don't join your bandwagon we're scum? That's a scum agenda right there.
Life can only kill you once.
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