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On August 15 2011 08:01 Navillus wrote:
Ok seriously I apologize for the bad writing I really am not trying to be confusing and again I am being clear about my stance, I am against claiming traits for the first few days of this game it does not seem useful and people won't do it.
It's ok man. I poke everybody now and then.
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On August 15 2011 08:01 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:51 Navillus wrote:On August 15 2011 07:46 Trotske wrote:On August 15 2011 07:44 Navillus wrote:On August 15 2011 07:40 Varpulis wrote:http://pastebin.com/7uvxnYP2slam500 is shifty as hell. Convo i had with him, i'm oystermeister, he's [zEn]slam500. I disagree, not wanting to draw attention is a scum thing, saying that you don't want to draw attention looks more like a noob who doesn't want to be the day 1 lynch because he said something stupid, for example because he mentioned he didn't want to draw attention then got killed for it. why didn't you let him defend himself? there was pressure on slam and you jsut gave him a way out of it without him dogin anything. Because if my read is right on him he could easily make himself look scummier by acting nooby again while not actually making him any more likely to be scum. ok you are saying this: 1) hes town 2) hes noob 3) you guys cant see the difference 4) i just saved an innocent :D you know newbs also have a chance to spawn scum right? I agree its a coinflip with newer players so id say a dt check on him would be more then welcome, but you cant just shoot down the pressure because you feel hes town and think we cant handle the reaction you think he would give. you see whats wrong with that?
I agree. A DT check would be worth the effort.
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And just for the record a DT check on Varp wouldn't be a bad idea either. Wouldn't be the first time scum fabricated text. I'm not FoSing you Varp I simply don't trust anybody.
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On August 15 2011 09:44 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 05:07 GreYMisT wrote:
quick question about the thief trait. If the Thief is say a townie and robs a Mafia, will he become a member of the mafia and have effectively switched sides? Yes, they become part of scum team; and vice versa, if he as scum robs a townie, he becomes town.Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 05:23 Sevryn wrote:
who kills first? if we lynch a scum but they kill someone to make it so its even before the scum dies who wins? Lynches go first before KPs (as per day/night cycle)Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 06:28 Da-Muffinman wrote:On August 15 2011 06:15 Jackal58 wrote:On August 15 2011 06:12 slam500 wrote:
so do we pick our own traits? Sure. Go ahead. If you didn't receive a trait in your role PM you probably are just vanilla scum. I accidentally deleted my PM. Who's on our team again? Errrr, ok?! Also Night 0 lasts until 5 pm CEST(00:00 am KST)? Yes. 0000 KST is the deadline.
So if a townie thief targets a scum he becomes scum And then he targets a townie and becomes townie. And then he outs the entire scum team. Damn wish I was the thief.
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On August 15 2011 09:56 Sknowman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 09:52 Jackal58 wrote:So if a townie thief targets a scum he becomes scum And then he targets a townie and becomes townie. And then he outs the entire scum team. Damn wish I was the thief.
I would imagine he can only use that once then, considering he'd have to take on that person's role from who he steals.
Smurf Account (Thief): The player possessing this trait will be able to rob another player of his role and traits. The robbed player will die due to complications in the act of being robbed (read: He was killed by the thief). The Thief retains his Thief trait for the duration of the game, ie, he can keep robbing roles until the end of the game, or until he is dead. The Thief has a 33% chance to be caught, which would mean instant lynching. The chance of being caught doubles every time he steals a role. When he robs a role, his previous role will disappear, meaning he cannot go back to the role he had before.
I dunno man. Seems like a scummy trait from the get go. Certainly not town friendly.
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I'm all for lynching everybody that speaks in Tongues
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Prior to Kurumi getting banned he had PMed me with an idea to use a tie in the voting to effectively eliminate lurkers. I told him I would support such an idea however the mechanics of making it happen need a lot of work. If he was in contact via PM with any body else regarding this idea shoot me a PM and let's see if we can make it work. I thinks it's a good idea but I don't know if it can be implemented.
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Alright so if nothing happened I am going to throw this out there for all of you to chew on. Scum team lies within the multitude of peoples that have not posted in the game yet. Sound plausible?
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On August 15 2011 23:49 Varpulis wrote:
statistically unlikely, but possible that at least one of the scum hasn't posted yet. Lots of vets too. JeeJee, OrigninalName (vets compared to the very new playerbase of this game)
Well we don't know what the scum count is at the start. As they apparently have the ability to either kill or convert us I would suspect beginning numbers to be quite low. If that is the case then it is more statistically likely that they have not posted. Of course it's entirely possible that something may have happened that we as town have not been told about.
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Nevermind. A hell of a lot more people have posted than I though. I believe I counted 17 since GMans "You can all yell at each other now" post.
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On August 16 2011 00:24 Varpulis wrote:
ON was on IRC around 15 hours ago, but never posted anything, and wasn't really saying much in IRC either. Sent him and JeeJee prompting PMs
Ya I poked him with my first post to see if he would react and all I did was piss of Chaos.
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3 scum in a page and a half. That's pretty cool. Let's make a 3 way tie happen. Nisani, GreyMist and JeeJee.
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Dear JeeJee,
This:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 00:37 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 23:12 Varpulis wrote:On August 15 2011 13:53 hiro protagonist wrote:good day all, Im here to slay me some werewolves! Claiming is bad, don't do it in thread or PM. Plans that involve claiming to one person before there has even been a lynch suck. Unless Ciryandor comes in and says "hey btw hiro protagonist is town", its not worth it. Scum hunting in PM land is OP  See you in the morning! amigo, do you have anything other than the obvious to tell us? Do you think that slam500 and Forumite are scummy, and why? As soon as the day rolls around i'm going to send a pm to everybody who hasn't posted at all to prompt them. Too many vets are lurking in this game. do you?
Followed by this:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 16 2011 02:33 JeeJee wrote:discussing claim strategies for roles that may not even be in the game is a waste of time, drop it. Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 00:06 Da-Muffinman wrote:
So Kurumi is temp banned, how will this affect our Mafia Game?
Also, good morning.
good morning to you too. enjoy the night?
Just screams "I'm scum" to me.
Sorry.
Your Friend,
Jackal58.
Dear GreYMisT
Your immediate soft defense of your scum buddy screams louder.
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On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it.
See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot.
Player X= Nisani
Player Y = GreYMisT
Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir)
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On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead...
But this game has a pardoner type role that could undo a last minute lynch if he's on top of things.
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On August 16 2011 09:02 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 08:50 Varpulis wrote:
3 way lynch? Ambitious. I'll roll with it.
Slam500, feel like contributing your opinon? in over 150 posts in the thread you can't find a single scummy person? Some effort would be nice. We should not be 3 way lynching D1. We lynch our scummiest suspect first and see if we are going in the right direction. Right now Slam500 is not a half bad lynch. However we have to keep in mind that he is a newbie, he is going to make mistakes and possibly be really intimidated, causing him to make more mistakes.
Nisani makes a blatant scum slip and then disappears and you want to lynch a noob?
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Voting Nisani. I don't give 2 shits what happened in your last game ON.
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On August 17 2011 04:38 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 04:33 Nisani201 wrote:On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one. I did give a good defense, and you were in the IRC chatroom while it happened. Don't lie about that shit. (The chat starts at the bottom and ends at the top) + Show Spoiler + 14:07 < shinbi> i see
14:06 < Nisani201> so I said that I wasn't sure
14:06 < Nisani201> t as obvious as i thought
14:06 < Nisani201> And then I thought, if he was asking that question, then maybe the answer wasn'
14:06 < shinbi> and then?
14:06 < shinbi> so you thought 'ah, no kp due to night post, let's say that!'
14:05 < shinbi> just run me through the thought process here
14:05 < Nisani201> i'm confused as to what you want me to respond to now
14:05 < Nisani201> i just said
14:05 < shinbi> ?
14:04 < shinbi> and then
14:04 < shinbi> so you posted that with certainty due to that reasoning
14:04 < shinbi> ok nisani
14:04 < shinbi> hold on taa
14:04 < taa> then why didnt you say that?
14:03 < Nisani201> and I figured that there would be no KP because the night post didn't mention sending in kills
14:02 < shinbi> and then?
14:02 < Nisani201> i said it with complete certainty by instinct, because saying things tentatively is even worse
14:02 < Sknowman> "at least, i don't think they can"
14:01 < Sknowman> discrediting it
14:01 < Sknowman> then quickly made a post
14:01 < Sknowman> why you said with complete certainty "Scum had no KP"
14:01 < Sknowman> about
14:01 < Nisani201> ?
14:01 < Nisani201> about how I thought mafia didn't have any KP last night
14:00 < Sknowman> everything we just talked about
14:00 < Nisani201> explain what
13:59 < Sknowman> care to explain?
13:59 < Sknowman> nisani I'd vote for you, but unfortunately you probably wont get lynched because I guess I'm the only one who sees through this bullshit. So instead I'm going to vote for the second best lynch, which is slam500. ##Vote: slam500 I dont know why everyone is jumping on it as a scumslip as I figured that was the case anyways ._.
Huh?
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Alright Nisani. My vote is off of you. I've watched you defend yourself from a lynch as scum and as a townie. Townie wins in this comparison.
So Nisani who would you like to see lynched and why?
Oh and hi Curu. Didn't I just see you in another game? 
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