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Me: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/X2VKB.gif) TAKATAKATAKATAKATAKA EDIT: Also, expect a 1k post from me this game! | ||
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Kavdragon: Chezinu Kurumi: I seem to recall a player named ash, but I can't find them in the quiz which is too bad so sad Sandaroba: is obv Ver (professor badass) By the way you guys are idiots for revealing. | ||
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WRONG But playing guessing games is a waste of time. I'd accuse you of rolefishing but that'd be a tad hypocritical. Oh by the way everyone if I'm somebody's role in the game we might have a busdriver who can bus themself. Keep an eye out. | ||
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On August 14 2011 00:46 syllogism wrote: What's the point in personality speculation and fishing at this stage? You should keep notes of your thoughts rather than voicing them in the thread unless you've a reason for it. The thread is already quite unreadable with all the supposed posting restriction related spam. Even if you have a posting restriction you don't have to be so obnoxious about it as there's always some leeway no matter what the PM stipulates. WRONG Know what personality people have is very useful for town. Outing roles is lame, but knowing personality can help us understand clues that somebody might be hinting at without revealing anything. BTW guys pay attention to everyone's first couple posts. That's when we'll see the personality coming out the most, as people have fun with the roleplaying. (PS Syllogism is meapak_zipph) | ||
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Kurumi: ash??? Sandaroba: Ver Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph? Jackal: DrH? Fishball: He's right, fishball did vote in the voting thread. I don't believe fishball has voted yet though. Whats up with that? Some sort of role condition that he can't post or something? Who would that be? I don't think we should lynch kurumi. I don't think trolls are likely to be scum, and if they are they are the sort of scum that I feel we can safely ignore for the time being. Since they aren't creating a hostile town atmosphere and anyone they push to lynch probably won't end up dying, we can ignore them for now. D1 I would rather lynch somebody that actually looks scummy. We need more people to post before we can decide that. Question though: Does day end when the majority votes? | ||
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On August 14 2011 03:04 LSB wrote: All you guys are idiots, rather than trying to play the game you guys are just acting out your roles. This ain't Furrydom's role play forum, I'm trying to play a game here and all these random people come in spewing some nonsense about pokemon. What's up with Kurumurry? At least BM tried to post things in the thread besides sheer spam. I'm ignoring him from here. Personality fishing is just BS, personalities are not tied to roles and I have no idea why any of you would think that they do. What do you think you can tell me about Syllogism's role or alignment is if you know he is Meapak? I'm confused who you are disagreeing with here. Me or syllogism? I'm not saying that knowing what personality people have will explain their role, but it will explain their behavior. IE knowing the personality will help us while outing the role will not. I have no idea what syllogisms role or alignment is. | ||
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On August 14 2011 03:23 Curu wrote: Well you just cleared whoever has the Bill Murray role as likely Town then. No way a Townie gets a win condition to get a specific Mafia lynched. Possibility that Bill Murray a 3rd Party, but doubtful unless it's a Survivor or something. ^ | ||
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On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote: Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you're saying that BM is probably a townie but we should lynch him anyway? In addition, we should help a possible third party achieve his objective? Ha! This is not a good quote. Look at the context; Jackal's last three posts before this (1, 2, 3) are pretty obviously him pushing for a bill lynch on the basis of his role. He's not giving evidence, or reasons for lynching, he's just saying lets kill this person. Jackal does this shit all the time, and I KNOW that you know this, decon, because I've played games with both of you. I also know that you (as town) would read this quote and would immediately understand what Jackie was doing. Oh, and your posts are sheepy and feel scummy. #vote deconduo | ||
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I know you're probably kidding Kita, but I actually don't mind the report card idea. The self-evaluation seems a bit stupid (seems like it will inspire more arguements than it will solve) but the report card is actually legit. Heres a question though: Who decides grades? I certainly don't trust you to do so, I have no idea if you're scum or not. Things like 'attempt to contribute without contributing' could easily be argued. Also the names are missing from the document, it just has the scores. | ||
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Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph? kenpachi: Ace? Meapak_Zipph could also be Ace. Foolishness: Bumatlarge Did I miss anyone? btw Great work with erasing the inventor there Pandain. | ||
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On the bottem right corner of this it says to lynch Mig. Who wrote that? | ||
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Pandain, if you're here, you should probably claim your role etc before you die..! (also wtf town? I go to bed and theres only 4 or 5 new posts!?) | ||
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ok! #vote aidnai | ||
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And I'm not acting lackluster! I always play like this. This is me excited!!!! See? that was four exclaimation marks. That means that sentence is FOUR times as exciting as this sentence! My role list: Personalities Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph? kenpachi: RoL Meapak_Zipph: could be Ace. Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness Walton: Aidnai I think that's everyone. | ||
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Kav, I really want to know what it is that you do that gets you lynched day1, because I would love to know your tricks for games where I'm village idiot. I'd like to make it clear: I believe Kav on this. If he was scum he could come up with a much better plan to stay under the radar. All he'd have to do is keep posting spam; that's all chez would do anyway and nobody would lynch Kav for it. But he's not; anybody with a pulse would be able to tell you that there's a meaning behind his spam. Kav is speaking to us through his role. I'll bet you anything that at least one of the people voting for him is scum, trying to start/hop on the bandwagon, and the other two people voting are just stupid townies. TLDR; he's not scum, town is DERR idiots. | ||
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hosts, could we get a list of the votes and who has/hasn't voted so far? | ||
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On August 15 2011 06:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: .......Seriously, what the fuck is this shit. Why is no one calling out tnkted for random finger pointing, sheeping, and posting a list that as of day 1 is near useless. What benefit does town actually gain from knowing who is who? Aside from the obvious issues of someone fake claiming their name. However, spending time like he has been speculating on names is useless as the next leap someone in town will make is x name = alignment or x name = role. Quit it now and analyze based on play -_- Also, until he comes in to explain his vote, I am voting fishball as I have yet to see a single post by him. Actually, I've only accused two people. Decon reacted 'townilly' to my own (and others) accusation, which means I'm willing to let him be for now. And sheeping? Lol? I believe I was the first to support decon, and I was also the first to throw my weight behind Kav. Meanwhile, you've done... what exactly? Get your ass in the thread. And if you don't like me posting lists, you should reread the first post where I did so. If you don't like it, that's too fucking bad. Personalities Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph? kenpachi: RoL Meapak_Zipph: could be Ace. Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness Scamp: Somebody not big name | ||
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Also... don't we get to see what his role was? | ||
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Also, On August 15 2011 20:57 Chezinu wrote: I will not disclose all my notes or analysis of players at this time. I believe it wouldn’t be wise to do so. I WILL Personalities Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph? kenpachi: RoL Meapak_Zipph: could be Ace. Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness Bolded names are the ones that have claimed or that I'm fairly sure of. Ken isn't bolded because, counter to what everyone is saying, roleclaiming dt early is a maneuver RoL doesn't have a monopoly on. | ||
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In unrelated news, should we be talking about sandroba right now? Yes, you all know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about that. | ||
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I can count 5 off the top of my head. Perhaps someone with more experience in PM games can tell me more, but I don't trust this, it feels to me like a medic draw. All medic protect sandaroba and then the mafia suicide bombs him, killing everyone BUT him; I can see something like that happen, and who here honestly doubts that we have a suicide bomber in this game? That being said, if we can confirm sandaroba's cred, we need to protect him at all costs. Mason circles are a good thing for town, but I don't believe in trusting blindly, and I prefer to have everybody sitting at the same table when I'm playing cards. | ||
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On August 16 2011 01:48 ghrur wrote: Now, on to scum. Day 1 was a catastrophe. Town did not maintain a good atmosphere whatsoever. Kurumi is HUGELY to blame. He has like 6 pages of posts ALONE. >_> Vigi him. I don't care if he's banned; I don't want his spam clogging up out thread. I don't want him to be doing that shit when he comes back. No, because Kurumi was not the only one talking. Go back and read. Jackal and Kurumi were arguing, as well as kav and aidnai, as well as half a dozen other people. Kurumi has posted only a few total spam posts (the pokemon ones) and those are arguably a form of roleclaiming, since it was through the pokemon posts that jackal began his spampain to lynch BM. What you're doing here is assigning all of the blame in a situation to one person, while ignoring the contributions of others. I'm not calling that a scumtell, but it's bad logic and poor reasoning. I don't think Kavdragon is Mafia. Mafia wouldn't suggest 1:1 lynch, and mafia definitely wouldn't push someone as hard as Kav did. Sounds like some easy loopholes. All mafia has to do is those exact things next time and you'd be completely fooled! That said, I agree that kav is probably not mafia. Unluckily for him, I don't have a gun I can withold from shooting him with, so he's going to have to demonstrate his town with something else, IE a complete roleclaim. I also don't think Kenpachi is any form of DT because it'd be retarded to out yourself day 1 like that. Also, if he were DT, he'd actually mount a case instead of just spam vote jackal and crap. It's pretty obvious to me that ken is acting out his personality, as are many of the people whose behavior you've judged as 'unnatural'. Most people have agreed that ken is probably RoL, who is well known for claiming dt and fingering the mafia godfather on the first day. Well, who is mafia then? tnkted. Many of you have suggested LSB, and I agree with that sentiment too, but I think the two are linked indirectly and tnkted seems more likely to be scum. Here's why. I completely disagree with the sentiment expressed here, and it leads town away from scum hunting. We're here to kill scum, like always. We're not here to find out people's personalities. It's not really useful at all. You have said exactly nothing here. WHY are we not here to find out peoples personalities? What follows is a logical arrangement of your arguement: 1.I disagree with Tnkted 2.Tnkted's idea leads town away from scumhunting 3.We want to kill scum 4.We are not here to find out peoples personalities 5.Tnkted's idea is not useful at all Of the above, only 2 is actually a reason why what i said is wrong, but you don't support that reasoning at all. 4 is an assertion you simply state without any reasoning. It's also false, for reasons I can't get into right now. This post is extremely scummy. Soft-defending Kurumi, and basically softly encouraging him to continue spamming. If there's no repercussions for spamming, why stop right? Furthermore, he says it doesn't create a hostile town atmosphere. That's just wrong. The reason why town's atmosphere went to shit day 1 is because of trolls. This guy is just supporting that. He's saying, don't lynch the trolls, don't push the trolls, and hey, they're not hurting you guys either. Why would any townie want to do that? No reason. Why would mafia want to do that? So they can hide in the spam, make shitty posts and get away with it, and ruin Town's discussion for lynches. Mafia play right here. This is a moot point anyway, since kurumi is banned and isn't playing anymore. But I'm not encouraging him to continue spamming, I'm encouraging him to continue acting out his role. We don't know what roles people have, or how they work; its obvious at this point that some people have posting restrictions. Do you even understand what and how town atmosphere works? Spamming doesn't generate a hostile town atmosphere in and of itself; all it does is make it more difficult for people to read the thread. Tunnel spamming is different, and that's what happened here (I explain this because I don't think you understand the distinction). The town atmosphere is damaged when nobody can trust each other, when dts are undermined by counter dts and nobody can tell who is telling the truth or not. Let me ask you: is there anyone that we can all agree is town, who we can rely on to act in a forthright and intelligent (or at least predictable) manner conductive to our interests? Are there several such people? Are they working together? If yes, then you'll understand a good town atmosphere. Fact is, I think we're doing ok. Sure we missed on the first lynch, but we also got enough people for a majority lynch. Do you know how difficult it is in regular games to get such a lynch off on the first day? It's not easy. More than half the players in the game have to agree to lynch the SAME person. The fact that we were able to come together to kill aidnai is a sign of vitality IMO, although I'm sure others would disagree. Oh, and we were essentially relying on the word of Kavdragon, who we all assumed was some sort of dt. Given aidnai's flip ('evil' chezinu), I'm not suprised at why he thought we should flip aidnai. Another post I want to outline for two reasons. One, completely avoids LSB who is, pretty obviously, Ace. Why would town avoid addressing town? I don't know. Why would mafia do that? So the link isn't there. Derp. Also, the list is pointless and seems more like one of those "contributing while not actually contributing" shenanigans for town cred. Who does that? Right, mafia. So, 1.This list isn't complete! He must be scum, protecting his buddy's role. Why is LSB Ace? Does Ace have a monopoly on calling people idiots? Lets see: You're an idiot. Nothing happened, I think we're ok. I don't think LSB is ace, and until you can convince me otherwise he's not going on the list. 2. This list is pointless anyway So you accuse me of leaving somebody off the list, and use that to call me scum, and then you say that the list is pointless anyway? So is the list a useful tool or not? I remind you at this point that, as of yet, you have STILL to explain why listing people's apparent roles is a bad thing. You think mafia doesn't already have such a list? I think it's a good thing, and whats more, I'm obligated to do so by my role. Suck it. Oh, okay, so he had an analysis on Deconduo (albeit poor), then just suddenly switches to aidnai! Great idea! Bandwagon onto the townie whom you haven't talked about until randomly deciding to vote him! You conveniently ignored the post where I said I was cutting decon some slack due to his towny response to my pressure. I've already explained my aidnai push above. Picking and choosing which quotes make your subject look scummy while ignoring the rest is at best, bad town play and at worst stupid scumplay. Throwing out a soft FoS. Seems like he wants to get a random lynch started... Never mentions it again. That's scum play right there. Hints town towards a lynch, nudges town along, then back off and seem like he wasn't even a part of it. You can call things 'soft FoS' if you think the semantics make you look cool, but the rest of us call it 'pressure' because we aren't huge dorks. RoL still has posted very little, mostly one liners. I think he might be kenpachi if anything. He says we should vigi Kav right? Like, the guy who actually ardently pushed for a lynch. The guy who he thinks isn't actually scum. BUT WAIT! Let's NOT hit Kurumi, the guy who's been spamming the thread to hell and destroying the town atmosphere. Wtf. Honestly, tnkted is just promoting a bad atmosphere. Mafia is the party with that agenda. Tnkted is mafia zzz try harder. 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On August 16 2011 03:54 Chezinu wrote: Hey Guys! I'm a Bank. There is no need to go into detail of the powers that the bank possesses. The Bank is offering to reward of 10,000 cheznos to anyone who is able to identify Walton. If anyone would like to do business with me let me know. We are currently hiring as well. I think kav already said that Walton was aidnai. Pay up! I'm also interested in what positions are available...! | ||
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On August 16 2011 08:21 Jackal58 wrote: An answer to my PM would be most appreciated Incog. I'm confused. ^ | ||
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On August 16 2011 20:58 deconduo wrote: Theres something important that people seem to be missing: Kurumi claimed inventor, but said Pandain stripped his powers. He flips vanilla townie which makes sense. HOWEVER, we get a message about the inventor. Not AN inventor, THE inventor. Pandain is clearly a role thief, and he is now the inventor. Or Kurumi is lying about his role. Btw... On August 16 2011 12:18 ghrur wrote: LSB's not Ace right? Clearly Ace doesn't have a monopoly on that picture either. >_> Keep on tnkted, keep on. Oh don't be a child. Fine, LSB is ace. You've convinced me. Speaking of which, Ghrur, I take it since you never responded to my big defense post, it was fairly convincing to you. What do you think about the people who hopped on that wagon who didn't even read my refutations, but were happy to use your initial suspicion? Personalities Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph? kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness LSB: Ace] RoL: Kenpachi? I'm not sure... why would he be able to post more once BM was dead? Regarding last night: If LSB really targeted kita and then stupidly announced it in thread (Is that what happened? Really?) It's possible that the bus driver role (ie, me) is on the other team and Kita is scum, they bussed him out to save him. The other alternative is that LSB is scum and lied about his shot. Or Kita could be me and he bussed himself when he realized he was in danger. Either way, until we get more info, I'm hopping on the LSB wagon, just to see where it goes. #vote lsb | ||
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Personalities can be taken from (but are not limited to) the TL Mafia Quiz. Also, Incog told me specifically that they were probably going to use me as a personality (which, I will admit, I did find surprising). So suck it. Sure, you've asserted that LSB is Ace, but you never provided much proof, and I don't think you said so specifically in the thread. If you did, I'm sorry. I probably wasn't reading closely enough. Besides, you haven't been a very reliable player so far jackal, what with your post restriction and all. You've done nothing but tunnel a townie and while it's clear that this was due to your role, you have to admit that your posts so far have not been very full of analysis. You will forgive me for glossing over them. | ||
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On August 16 2011 21:59 ghrur wrote: Seriously? I didn't write down who you subbed for, you're using THAT as an excuse that I'm scum? You're still pushing for the same agenda, even defending spam in an already crap-infested thread. You're still scum. What, pray tell, is the agenda that I'm pushing for? I'm not pushing for anything right now except for a LSB (possible kita) lynch. What I'm amazed by is the fact that you are showing zero remorse for shooting a townie. Even if he was spamming (which, by the way, I still don't think he's doing) Great work with that, by the way. Regardless, I'm not arguing with you anymore, this is killing town vibe. If you think I'm scum vote me and see how that works out. @ everyone else: Is it possible that Kurumi created his invention and gave it to somebody before he died? | ||
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On August 17 2011 01:39 kitaman27 wrote: LSB, this is the third time I've had to ask you, but will you confirm that you can only shoot liars? This is Ace's role that incog gave with the invite pm: I never received any indication that I was hit, nor did I bus it away from me. He didn't claim his shot until night actions lock, so its not like I could prevent it, even if I wanted to. As for the green/blue role pms, don't claim publicly which one you have in the thread. For all we know, kav/chez could have a win condition to hunt all the blues. Bum, was your nuke real or was that another fake shot? Pandain, I'm not sure if you made the same connection as I did with red, but don't ban him yet. Would you be willing to share what your personality is redFF? It's not like we don't already know your Floridian role and it might be relevant, which I'll reveal later. Sandroba, you mentioned in pms that you decided not to contact me on day one because you thought I was Ace, but never had the chance to respond before you got role blocked? Could you explain your reasoning for not wanting to contact the Ace personality? Wiat, if LSB's role actually is that he can only shoot people who are lying, and he shot you, and you didn't die, that means 2 things 1. mafia has 3 kills or we have another vig 2. you're town. I am not scum  ...Which means that the people pushing for a LSB/Kita lynch are wrong. I'm willing to buy that LSB's role is actually that from the invite PM. I know when to back down. ##unvote LSB | ||
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On August 17 2011 04:28 tnkted wrote: Oh yeah: I am not scum. Sry for triple post but I keep forgeting: Everyone should say this because then LSB has a target rich environment to shoot into. | ||
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Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph? kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness LSB: Ace VisceraEyes: Coagulation bumatlarge: Incognito I know I forgot someone this time, I just can't remember who. | ||
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On August 17 2011 05:21 Jackal58 wrote: I am not scum doesn't cut it. You could be 3rd party. I am not scum is not a lie if you are a SK or some other shit. I am town. There now. Say it with me. I AM TOWN!. Good point. I am town! | ||
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On August 18 2011 02:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I am going to tell you all right now, both are bad lynches and a no lynch would be preferable. On that note, I will be voting for someone random right now. We're not nolynching. I know you have a post restriction, but maybe you could communicate to someone via PMs and have them post your suspicions or whatever. Actually, that goes for everyone with posting restrictions. PM your shit to sandroba and let him post it if you have something important to town but can't post due to role. Since nobody has responded to my question, I'm gonna just #vote pandain | ||
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On August 18 2011 05:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Youngminii, that is what I said, except I didn't bother explaining why I didn't give an alternative until right now. I don't see the issue. If you think I made up my excuse on the fly anyone who watched Destiny's stream the last couple of nights can confirm I am going to a Casino with him tonight from 12am-2pm. Wait, what? | ||
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Also, if you look at the people mafia hit, it was Foolishness and Meap (at least). Foolishness wasn't even posting very much, if I recall correctly, and meapak was. If I were scum, why would I hit foolishness? Meap was an obvious kill but Fool was being useless to town. Look at his posts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=47499 There's like, jack shit in there regarded to analysis. Why kill him then? The vet excuse seems to be the only reasonable option. Therefore we can expect to see the same thing tonight. We'll lose one major town analyst (if I were them, I'd hit Curu) and at least one major vet. No idea who that could be, all the remaining vets other than scamp and jackal have been lurking like Ted Bundies. | ||
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On August 18 2011 21:35 Jackal58 wrote: How do you know Curu is townie Twinkles? Something you'd like to share with us studmuffin? No, he's just the only living town player whose been posting constant analysis. I happen to have a town read on him. The fact that mafia were willing to waste a day vig on kavdragon means that theres no point trying to predict their kills. They are as fucked up as most of the rest of the town. That was one of the most retarded moves I've seen any mafia team do in a long time. The only thing that makes sense is if it was part of bums personality that he had to kill chezinu. Okay, lets start with that then. I don't know why they killed kav, but there was a reason for it. We don't know the reason NOW, but we can hypothesize. Don't give up just because it seems hard. In fact, I like it when the mafia does weird things, because it gives us hints as to whats actually going on. You can almost always rely on the mafia to act intelligently as a team but stupid as individuals; the alternative usually works itself out in the end. .....how? It's not scummy to try to predict mafia kills. | ||
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On August 18 2011 23:37 Palmar wrote: It is, what does it bring to the table except for the fact that you could in theory be right or wrong? What do we stand to gain by trying to figure out who mafia is going to shoot? It's a guessing game with no content in it. The only thing it does is give you an excuse to add something to the thread without actually contributing, and then allow you to wifom depending on how your team decides to spread their hits tonight. "Look, I was wrong on all the kills, I can't be mafia" or "Look, mafia killed exactly my targets, they're trying to set me up!". Seriously, it's non-content, it's useless for town, and I'm pretty sure you're scum. Lol? Manufactured outrage much? Go read the post you originally called scummy. 90% of it was me analyzing who died the night before, not who was going to be killed. You don't think its weird that they killed foolishness, who was entirely useless, but haven't bothered killing BC or any of the other vets? Vet sniping is a logical strategy for mafia, and it appears to be the strat they're going for. How is that non-content and useless to town? What you're doing in this post is attempting to accuse me of future wifom, which is entirely ridiculous. SCUMMY MOVE BRO | ||
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On August 18 2011 09:49 Palmar wrote: I wanna stay up for the lynch, shit sucks it's 1 am here but I am le tired  ![[image loading]](http://onlypositive.net/image.axd?picture=2010%2F7%2Fsleeping-kitten.jpg) Is this pointless spam, or is it some kind of breadcrumb? | ||
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Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness LSB: Ace VisceraEyes: Coagulation bumatlarge: Incognito Curu: Foolishness | ||
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On August 19 2011 03:50 Palmar wrote: do you think curu may be foolishness? Yep, I bolded him which means its almost certain. Also, LOL @ Curu's siggy. | ||
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On August 19 2011 05:21 redFF wrote: how do you not know who I am yet T.T. I've been hilariously obvious and at one point somebody even addressed me by my personalities name. I'm bad at remembering this stuff T_T Are you DrH? | ||
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On August 19 2011 09:25 youngminii wrote: I realised one day that playing according to my personality is anti-town. As fun as it would be, I'd rather win. Also Red, what do you mean someone 'stole' your votes? Personalities Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness LSB: Ace VisceraEyes: Coagulation bumatlarge: Incognito Curu: Foolishness youngmini: Kenpachi I think the mayoral stuff was related to his role, he has to campaign for mayor all game. | ||
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Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness LSB: Ace VisceraEyes: Coagulation bumatlarge: Incognito Curu: Foolishness youngmini: Kenpachi deconduo: jimbosilvers Nice rolefishing @ BC there, I'll reveal my role after I use my power, not bloody well until then. Should be obvious at this point though (although maybe not! I'm probably doing a very bad impression) (hint: don't waste time on this) | ||
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Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness LSB: Ace VisceraEyes: Coagulation bumatlarge: Incognito Curu: Foolishness youngmini: Kenpachi deconduo: jimbosilvers tnkted: SHOWTIME! Fine, there I am. Happy? Scamp called it day1 (gw btw scamp lol I didn't realize Showtime! was so distinctive). I have no idea how you wouldn't be able to figure this out since multiple other people managed to without much trouble. And the reason for the list being incomplete is because 1) I don't know all of the players on that list, I don't recognize them immediately despite having read the beast of a thread that is the TL quiz. You can't accuse me for being scummy because I haven't played as long as you 2) I'm bad at remembering things like this. I'm doing the best I can; me being incompetent is a bad reason to call me scum. So good work, personality sniffer, you've sniffed out another one. | ||
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On August 19 2011 12:10 redFF wrote: why do you keep posting it though it serves no purpose. No comment | ||
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On August 19 2011 13:45 redFF wrote: if i was in tntked's position i would post random obviously wrong personality lists because they only help scum. Am I really getting simultaneously accused of keeping a too accurate personality list and a too inaccurate personality list?! Pick one guys, you can't have both. Personalities Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: BC LSB: Ace VisceraEyes: Coagulation bumatlarge: Incognito youngmini: Kenpachi deconduo: jimbosilvers tnkted: SHOWTIME! Palmar: Flamewheel I'm hopping on the Palmar wagon. | ||
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On August 19 2011 20:31 Palmar wrote: ##Vote Curu On August 19 2011 22:13 sandroba wrote: ##Vote: Curu Yep, I'm convinced they're both scum now. | ||
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Jackal: L Kurumi: BM Pandain: Qatol Kavdragon: Chezinu Sandaroba: Ver kenpachi: RoL Foolishness: Bumatlarge Curu: Foolishness LSB: Ace VisceraEyes: Coagulation bumatlarge: Incognito youngmini: Kenpachi deconduo: jimbosilvers tnkted: SHOWTIME! Palmar: Flamewheel Sorry, misread. I actually had you in the list as two people before, lol | ||
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On August 19 2011 23:05 Curu wrote: I'm going to have to rethink sandroba though, scumdroba wouldn't be this stupid. This is what I was thinking too, until he voted you. Now I don't know. | ||
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On August 19 2011 23:54 Curu wrote: I retract my statement for now to ban sandroba btw. tnkted why did you follow me so readily into the sandroba case then back off immediately too? At first it made sense, and it seemed confirmed by his vote. I still actually think he's scummy due to that vote, but his explanation of how he misunderstood your role seems legit. You changed your mind just as quickly as I did, don't you accuse me of being flip floppy. I'm learning all of this second hand, you will forgive me for having to reevaluate the data every now and then. | ||
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On August 20 2011 03:00 VisceraEyes wrote: What are the chances that Curu is the one that is lying? There's no evidence that says he's being truthful except for a dead body...and the dead body was there before Curu's claim. Isn't it just as likely that Curu is the one that's lying about tracking Palmar? If Curu is lying, we'd find that out the instant Palmar died. Are you suggesting that Curu is exposing himself as mafia just to net ONE town kill? I wasn't on the lynch VE wagon before, but comments like this make me seriously suspicious. | ||
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On August 20 2011 03:12 kitaman27 wrote: One of the biggest hits to town morale is a successful red check. As the town already has identified the lynch target, it completely shuts down discussion for 48 hours. As a This is the only part of kita's huge mayoral post I have any interest in. It's obviously part of kita's role to try to guide the town a bit, but his last idea went absolutely nowhere and I have no interest in a mayoral campaign at this point, especially when there is a list of people 'allowed' to be candidates, picked by someone we aren't even sure is town. But this little piece is good advice. We need to keep up the discussion and conversation. So...... Scumread time! Everyone list the top 5 players that are currently leading your scumdar. 1. Palmar/Curu 2. Ghrur 3. VE 4. Node? 5. Scamp? 6. Pandain? (I think he's out of banhammers, and lied when he said he had infinite) PS: I think Kitaman is GMarshal | ||
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On August 20 2011 03:36 kitaman27 wrote: I'm always open to bribery. Also, I'm getting a clear anti-town feeling from those ignoring my plan. LOL 4 of the people on your list don't even have a page worth of posts in this thread yet. | ||
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On August 20 2011 03:39 Palmar wrote: I'm claiming mafia. I take it you have a message for us from the scumteam then? | ||
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What, are you a lesbian or something? | ||
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On August 20 2011 06:04 Jackal58 wrote: I probably won't be back until tomorrow morning. If I do post again tonight there is a good chance it will be incoherent. This. Its friday, I'm going to band practice then to a party then to sleep etc. Curu is right; I haven't been posting analysis and I should have. In my defence I've been posting most of my stuff at work, where I don't have time to comb the thread all that much, which you need to do analysis. I will do an analysis of ghrur tomorrow when I have time. | ||
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On August 20 2011 06:14 Curu wrote: You said you thought ghrur wasn't actually scum in your last relevant post, nothing has changed since then. So why your sudden change in read? Are you serious? My 'last relevant post'? Come at me bro, you've been riding my ass for like four pages now. I don't have to update the thread to satisfy you about my reads every time I change my mind about something. Chill the fuck out. I'll explain my reasoning tomorrow. I'm outie for tonight, GL with the lynch yall. | ||
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Ghrur Analysis Fact 1: Ghrur has been buddying WHILE he accuses me of buddying. Nobody has bothered accusing him of buddying. On August 18 2011 12:01 ghrur wrote: Oh Curu, that makes me remember, tnkted said our town atmosphere was lively too. :D What scum. On August 18 2011 02:45 ghrur wrote: Yeah RoL, where did you're "actually contributing" go? Fact 2: D1, Rather than shoot somebody he thought was mafia (me) he decided to shoot a nearly confirmed townie. Then he claimed that he did it because Kurumi was spamming. And thats......... basically all I could find that was scummy in his behavior. Conclusion: Ghrur is town. Sorry for doubting you, buddy. Overall Ghrur's play seems to be extremely aggressive; he's an analytic redFF1. However, much of his reasoning is faulty; he's spending time thinking about his lynches but doesn't ever find conclusive evidence. Instead, he's applying pressure and hoping his target slips up during his defence. It's an interesting strategy, one that I've seen DrH pull off a few times. DrH tends to get lynched though, so we should probably avoid lynching ghrur even if his behavior feels scummy. Some advice: Your style of posting is very obnoxious to be accused with, which is good because it encourages people to post and respond, but it also builds up a bad atmosphere for town. What happens when you accuse somebody who is town, tunnel them for days, and then get them lynched? You've wasted days of tunnelling that could have been spent on scum if you'd only mentally put that person back into the 'ok, that was a legit defense'. That's a tough mental maneuver to do; part of being good at it is understanding when somebody has a legit defence. Generally you're looking for defensiveness, topic changing, buddying, and sometimes, bandwagoning. Also look for wishy washy defenses that rely on you giving them benefit of the doubt. Now I have a big ol- pounding headache (anyone else from the st. paul area? you know the wild onion? Yeah) and I'm going to go shower and play some mindless video game for a few hours (cortex command anyone? :D). I don't want to think right now. Later, when I'm feeling less hungover, I want to post an analysis of youngmini and one of curu (who, btw i think is town, but it's good to check these things). | ||
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On August 20 2011 10:33 flamewheel wrote: It's Friday and I've got to get down. I apologize for my inactivity, though this is just simply not a period where I have much free time. Still though, here's something that should make the coming days more interesting. I lied when I said I had something for Day 3--that was simply me trying to draw a hit. Well, it worked. I was shot last night and lost my extra life. But now I have additional powers to make up for my new-found vulnerability. I believe Palmar is scum, but I don't think sandroba is scum with him. Look at the earlier part of the day, where Palmar and sandroba are being linked together. Comrade Palmar decides to try to link himself together with sandroba but that doesn't work--so instead he's just trolling now. I don't have time to look more carefully into it, but it definitely seems at this point that Mafia have decided to bus him and planned on it early, considering that there are still 24 hours left to go. Wait, you were shot? So what vig shot last night?! | ||
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My role is that I can end the day early and ignore the majority lynch. My plan (and the reason behind my comment) was to quickly vote somebody (probably node or scamp) and then immediately end the day. | ||
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I am our defense against a lack of majority lynch though, so... yeah. We haven't had trouble lately but you never know. Also, we need to get some thread activity up. I think everyone should give their top 5 or so scumreads just to generate activity. Mafia is probably lolling at how dead the thread is right now. Personally, I'm rethinking sandroba. Now that I think about it, his role is absurdly powerful for town, and he pmed EVERYONE IN THE GAME n0. Why isn't he dead? Why wouldn't he be afraid of dying? Its one think if you think you're about to die to tell everyone in the game what you've learned, but I don't think he's done that at all. The only thing hes done is post a big lump of PMs that palmar posted and that was after it was obvious that palmar was gonna die. | ||
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On August 22 2011 10:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So sand's scum because he's Ver? Let's not lynch just based on personalities. -_- No, I was saying that Sand's scum because he has a crazy powerful role and hasn't been killed (or even targeted, if you look at the kill lists) yet. On August 22 2011 11:36 redFF wrote: actually yeah, tnkted why didnt u use ur ability yesterday. Because it's too powerful for that. It was obvious from the second curu claimed that palmar was gonna get killed; why would I spend my power that can be used to save us from a nolynch on saving some time? That'd be a huge waste. On August 22 2011 11:24 Curu wrote: It isn't as much on that as his whole post history is useless junk in trying to appear active and contributing. So you admit my behavior isn't scummy but my... behavior is scummy? He has TWO walls of text where he "analyzes" you and says you're Town..then he wants to go post another wall of text on youngminii (...) and me (.........................), two people who are not even close to being lynch candidates. Wouldn't you accuse me even more of 'trying to blend in' if I were going for the easy analysis? From a scum perspective, going for analysis on people who are lynch targets already is a great way to blend in and hop on a wagon while avoiding appearing to do so. But I did the exact opposite. Rather than hop on lynch wagons I instead investigated some people I personally found suspicious but that other people weren't focusing on. How is that anti-town exactly? Meanwhile, you've accused me of having a post history of doing nothing constructive, while there are 15+ people with less than a third posts in this thread, who have contributed EVEN LESS analysis and discussion, and you're tunneling me. If 'my whole post history is useless junk' is your criteria for being scum, why aren't flamewheel, RoL, kenpachi, node, misder, mr wiggles, barundar, pandain, stop me any time, of being scum? No, you have some other reason for thinking I'm scum and until you reveal what that reason is, you're not really helping town. In fact, I don't think even you know what the reason is. I think you're following your gut and trying to (poorly) justify it by looking at my post history. Protip: emotional reasons are bad reasons. You can take that little rule and apply it to multiple parts of your life; it's my motto. Also, WHY IS NOBODY ASKING WHO VIGGED LAST NIGHT. FLAMEWHEEL CLAIMED A HIT, AND THERE WAS STILL 3 MAFIA KILLS | ||
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I'm not dead, I'm not dead I'm not dead, I'm not dead... Oh. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Paradiso_Canto_31.jpg/300px-Paradiso_Canto_31.jpg) Tnkted: There was so much more I had to say... so much more to do. Jackal: ... Tnkted: Don't you have anything to say? Jackal: I have no regrets. Tntked: Really? No regrets? Not even one? Jackal: We have the rest of eternity together, what more could we want?  <3 | ||
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Town's biggest problem was that nobody posted. Mafia literally lurked to a win; Flamewheel had what, 4 posts? In addition, we didn't have enough KP/vigs. It was obvious from the time that flamewheel in particular claimed a hit that he was lying, but there was no way to kill him. That's why I hinted as to my power; I was announcing that I was going to lynch flamewheel. I was forced to claim by someone (Damn you mafia!! *shakes fist*) and decided to tell the truth because I am an idiot and did not realize that there could be a role thief. And yes, my role was pretty useless for a townie. The only saving grace of it was the fact that this game had majority lynch. I was town's protection against a nolynch, which was kind of nice, but the lack of any other power (list check plz) was bad. Also, we needed more detective roles. BTW... Original Message From Incognito: It will probably start mid next week. Don't know if you're a role yet, we're still making them up. You're probably in it though. :'( I BETTER BE IN THE NEXT ONE | ||
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This is why games with open invitations tend to be much more busy and exciting; people who care enough to try to sign up to get into a game are more likely to post and talk than people who are simply invited. | ||
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On August 24 2011 00:10 kitaman27 wrote: Traitor also could never be recruited so we if accidentally shot him, he died. We got one guess in order to communicate with him and we were looking for a Fishball, but we ended up going with tnkted because of this: We were kinda hoping he would just jump on a lynch one of the days, but I understand what BC was thinking, being worried about accidentally getting a scum lynched. I had to actually request to switch teams, but I never actually did lol. I died too early. I should have claimed traitor, that would have been hilarious. | ||
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