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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 14:40 GMT
#141
/confirm

Oh god....kurumi with BM? -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 15:08 GMT
#155
On August 14 2011 00:06 Kurumi wrote:
thanks ver for giving yourself to sandroba he is a genius
btw
this time roles are connected to alignment


What makes you think that?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#168
On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:
i told you that dt should check me night 1 then
together with a doc visiting me
jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather


What makes you think there is a godfather in this game? I didn't see any reference to it in the OP. :/
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 15:39 GMT
#171
I don't suppose you're L, are you jackal? -_-
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 17:11 GMT
#177
Before you continue trolling kurumi, think about your win condition. Even if you are BM, it doesn't mean you have to be completely crazy. You're going to get lynched if you keep it up.

On August 13 2011 23:57 Kavdragon wrote:
This...This war we wage, No matter what we do, it only springs up in cities or towns anew. It ravages the weak, and buries the poor, so why continue with this any more?

Why do we feed the hungry beast that is the hatred between mafia, and town?
Brothers, do you not realize that red mixed with green is brown?

But alas my fate is sealed, I have seen it from afar. I'll get the rake, while sitting in a bar. But moarn not for me my friends, for this fact had freed my hands!

No more hiding, no more slouching, no more shall I cowar in the fear that would take the heart of those brave souls who stand with me, united in color, united in vision, united in hearts and minds we will stand STRONG against the coming battle, ready to throw down our arms at a moments notice, so that we can pick up our arms and be ready to grab random objects indiscriminantly from our wallets and throw then at the glorious leader of this revolution! So come one, come all, join the ranks of the few and the proud, so that we may be the many and the mostly proud! Join before the hidious thing that is war topples your proud leader, so that you may follow a man, and not a martyr. For to follow a martyr is easy, for he quickly becomes legend, but to follow a man is to show your trust in his absolute reign. Never fear what evils may befall me, I'LL BE BACK. As a zombie I will direct you onward towards our glorious goal!

Hmm. It seems I'll have to revise that statement. The rules seem to indicate that dead men tell not tales, and zombies unfortunatly fall through a loophole designed for megalomaniac tax dogers, and are thus considered "dead", dispite the fact that they are clearly "undead". I'll be taking this to court of course, but until then, press on my friends! Press on!

[image loading]


Are you claiming third party?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 18:18 GMT
#197
On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray


If you're not BM, then why are you trolling as if you are BM?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 18:21 GMT
#201
On August 14 2011 03:18 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray


If you're not BM, then why are you trolling as if you are BM?

I never said I am Bill Murray, where did I god damnit?


You decided to make your name Bill in the pokemon theme, have been spamming the thread, and hinted at a rivalry with L?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 18:26 GMT
#206
On August 14 2011 03:24 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:18 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray


If you're not BM, then why are you trolling as if you are BM?

I never said I am Bill Murray, where did I god damnit?


You decided to make your name Bill in the pokemon theme, have been spamming the thread, and hinted at a rivalry with L?

Kurumi's real name is Antoni
I don't know Bill Murray's real name
though I know someone with Bill as real name
I always spam the thread


So its just a coincidence that you mentioned the BM/L rivalry and jackal has it in his role pm?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 21:56 GMT
#332
[image loading]

The Mafia Revolution
Things will never be the same


Ladies and gentlemen, I present you a plan that will change the face of mafia as we know it. It is a foolproof strategy that is guaranteed to revolutionize the game. Mafia, at its roots, is a game of information. The sole advantage given to the scum team is information. I plan to change that. The town wants results and my track record should convince you of my vision.

Lets be honest, how many of you guys reread the entire thread, multiple times per game? Connections that are made day one are lost in the chaos of an unorganized thread. From now on, players shall be responsible for their actions.

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Even the Revolutionist himself can't believe what he sees


Part 1: Extracting information

What is the most difficult part of the game of mafia? It's the battle for information. The scum team know the alignment of all players in the thread. It's time to use their own knowledge against them. At the end of each cycle, players shall be required to submit a self-evaluation.

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Lurkers and sheep beware. You're going to tell us what you think, whether you like it or not. The following pieces are information shall be required from each player:

1) Their thought process behind the lynch.
-Why did they vote the way they did and what connections can they draw from the flip?
2) Their game plan
-How have they actively contributed to the game? For example, when I fill this part out, I plan to explain to town how I have single-handedly hunted down the entire scum team.
-What should be the town objective moving forward?
3) Conclusions
-Who is most likely scum and why?

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Part 2: Data management


In addition to self-evaluations, we need to develop infrastructure to organize what information we already have. Introducing the Mafia Report Card:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=0At4exhFEevFSdHVOc3lLQmJsUGQyUWt1NUVUVHl3cVE&hl=en_US#gid=0

The Mafia Report Card is a database of all the information gathered in the thread, as well as an indicator for where each player stands. Everyone is encouraged to contributed. Failure to do so shall show your clear disregard for the town's well-being. No doubt some shall attempt to paint this plan in a bad light, calling it a distraction of town. In reality, they only seek to limit the information we have at our disposal.

How do I contribute, you ask? It's so simple, even Kenpachi can do it! All that you have to do is update the appropriate cell with game relevant information and assign a point value for their action. All scummy actions reward negative points, while pro-town moves should be assigned positive points. Don't forget to to update their current score in the left-most column! I've provided the following reference for point values. The point value for anything not listed should be chosen using ones best judgment.

Report Card Reference:
Role claim scum: -100
Role claim Chezinu: -50
Invent a false post restriction: -20
Caught lying: -10
Attempt to discredit the mafia revolution: -7
Attempt to contribute, without contributing: -5
Push a lynch on a flipped town: -3
Call Kita scummy: -3
Fail to complete your daily self-analysis: -2
Role fish: -2
Lurk: -1
Spam: -1

Complete your daily self-analysis: +2
Provide an analysis of a player: +3
Push a lynch on a flipped scum: +5
Role claim as the Batman: +10
Lynch Kavdragon: +25
Lead a mafia revolution: +100


To give us a good starting point, I've assigned each player a grade, based on their abilities and value to the game:

LSB -20
BloodyC0bbler -25
Pandain -20
Youngminii -5
Kavdragon -20
Meapak_Ziphh +13
Flamewheel +15
Mig +8
Kurumi -11
Deconduo +7
Barundar +4
Palmar -3
Misder -4
Mr. Wiggles +5
VisceraEyes -2
Chezinu -10
bumatlarge +13
Tnkted -0
~OpZ~ -6
Kenpachi -10
Kitaman27 +25
Sandroba +14
Node +14
Fishball +12
Jackal58 +5
syllogism +1
Curu +6
DoctorHelvetica +10
Foolishness +24
Aidnai -4
RebirthOfLeGenD -9
Scamp +3

As each cycle approaches the end, players should reference the report card and strongly consider basing their lynch decision on the scores of each player. No longer shall we allow trolls, spammers, lurkers, and players that decide to put little effort in achieving town victory. This is a historic moment for all of teamliquid mafia. Now who shall join me?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 22:04 GMT
#339
On August 14 2011 07:01 tnkted wrote:
the ?? was directed at pandain.

I know you're probably kidding Kita, but I actually don't mind the report card idea. The self-evaluation seems a bit stupid (seems like it will inspire more arguements than it will solve) but the report card is actually legit. Heres a question though: Who decides grades? I certainly don't trust you to do so, I have no idea if you're scum or not. Things like 'attempt to contribute without contributing' could easily be argued.

Also the names are missing from the document, it just has the scores.


Welcome my fellow revolutionary! For glory!

It appears someone has already attempted to sabotage the document by removing the names. Clearly the mafia is aware of how dangerous this plan is to them. Is there any way to see the edit history?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#345
On August 14 2011 07:12 tnkted wrote:
I don't see the names, but I do see 'i will kill u kitaman.' and why would they remove the names but not the grades?


They should be back now. The death threats are clearly a sign of the perceived threat to the scum team.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 14 2011 01:47 GMT
#423
Err did anyone notice this in the OP?

It says there are 33 players, yet only 32 are listed on the player list. Is this just a mistake or is there a hidden player somewhere o.O

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 14 2011 14:38 GMT
#461
BC and Flamewheel, you come in here and say how awful the current state of the thread is, yet make no effort to remedy the situation. Do you guys even care about your mid-term grades?

Node, DoctorHelvetica, RebirthOfLeGenD you have one confirmation post. Truancy is not to be tolerated.

Kurumi, can you confirm you no longer are required to troll now that your role has been removed? If that's the case, no Recess for you. Also, since you're now vanilla, could you please claim what your original role was?

Now to today's lynch: Kavdragon

Earlier people asked if they thought personalities were tied to alignment. While I think this is generally not the case, there are two that most likely are: JimboSilvers, the Serial Killer, and Chezinu, the leader of the brown.

Think to yourself as if you were in Ver's position and wanted to give the Chezinu personality a brown related role. Would it be town aligned, mafia aligned, or third party? Earlier when I straight out asked him if he was third party, he made no effort to deny it. A cultist makes the most sense considering the flavor of his role. The last thing we want to worry about is a recruiting role.

He is trolling the thread with his Walton nonsense. He has made no attempt at contributing with the exception of the Aidnai attack. I'm not sure why so many people are so willing to ignore the player who is so likely to be third party. If we can take out an anti-town player on day one, we should take the opportunity. He also currently has the lowest report card score. Time to put him out of his misery.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 14 2011 16:54 GMT
#471
On August 15 2011 00:41 Kavdragon wrote:
Third Party is Black, not Brown. Silly kita just trying to lynch Kavdragon day one again.


Nope, I would lynch anyone that is anti-town. It just happens I lucked out and its you.

He hasn't even attempted to deny that he isn't town. Go Go ##Vote Kavdragon. You're about to flunk.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 14 2011 17:22 GMT
#478
On August 15 2011 01:59 LSB wrote:
Kitaman has said literally nothing this game


lol you need to look in the mirror

On August 15 2011 01:59 LSB wrote:
His only analysis has been a flimsy "Kavdragon is Chez, so Chez must be third party".
That is just BS, Brown is a mixure of all the alignments, anyone can be brown. Not just third party.


On August 15 2011 02:06 LSB wrote:
Any discussion of brown will now be henceforth labeled as spam and ignored.


Green is town. Brown is not town.

Did I touch upon a sensitive issue perhaps?

On August 15 2011 02:05 tnkted wrote:
Since nobody is saying anything..........

ok!

#vote aidnai


Why aidnai and not kav? What made you choose one over the other?

Considering how excited you sounded pre-game, your effort so far has been rather lackluster.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 15 2011 00:51 GMT
#613
On August 15 2011 06:48 Palmar wrote:
So I'd like to present you with three options for a lynch today. This should be the focus of discussion until the lynch actually happens.

[list]
[*] Aidnai - His vote is based on actively lurking and being overly defensive when accused. Here is a short summary from Sandroba: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10856660 . In addition, Kavdragon breadcrumbed an information role (his sources) and says he's ready to 1-1 trade himself with Aidnai.

[*] Kurumi - His vote is based on his constant trolling in the thread, it seems like he is not even attempting to get around the post restriction to contribute. More damning is the things I pointed out in this analysis: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10841897

[*] Scamp - he's using the same shitty logic Pandain used for shooting a day vigilante shot. He popped into the thread, wrote some random ##Kill thing and the disappeared again after calling us bad. Pandain is "masoned" with Mig, although they need to explain how the lovers role works this game. If Pandain flips town then Scamp should absolutely be the one hanging.


Right.....totally leave out Kavdragon, who not only is the best candidate for today, but is also the only viable alternative to aidnai.

On August 15 2011 06:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I am voting fishball as I have yet to see a single post by him.


lol coming from the guy who has 2-3 posts? You should know better than to throw away your vote in a majority lynch format, unless you're advocating a no lynch?

On August 15 2011 09:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
this seems like a bad lynch.


Thanks for your input.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 15 2011 02:10 GMT
#625
On August 15 2011 11:07 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm taking a calculated risk. I'm changing my vote. Nothin says I have to vote for BM. But I really need to know Aidnais alignment for other reasons.


Other reasons? o.O

I don't suppose you would be willing to share?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 15 2011 02:46 GMT
#630
On August 15 2011 11:34 redFF wrote:
HI, READING THREAD.


Welcome. I'm not sure how to fairly update your grade. To give you DrH's score seems somewhat unfair. Do you happen to have any transfer credit you could refer us to?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 15 2011 03:31 GMT
#641
Everyone remember to submit your self-evaluations! We need a better understanding of what just happened.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2011 02:47 GMT
#747
On August 16 2011 05:21 Foolishness wrote:
The grand list:

% chance of Mafia:
1. LSB - 50%
2. BloodyC0bbler - 37.5%
3. Pandain - 15%
4. Youngminii - 14.9%
5. Kavdragon - 2.22%
6. Meapak_Ziphh - 38%
7. Flamewheel - 74.99875%
8. Mig - 53%
9. Kurumi - pi%
10. Deconduo - 20.0%
11. Barundar - 100/3 %
12. Palmar - sqrt{79} %
13. Misder - ?? %
14. Mr. Wiggles - 2%
15. VisceraEyes - 12%
16. Chezinu - 30%
17. bumatlarge - 92%
18. Tnkted - 82.3345%
19. ~OpZ~ - ?? %
20. Kenpachi - 4/9 %
21. Kitaman27 - 1/8 %
22. Sandroba - 79%
23. Node - 55%
24. ghrur - 50%
25. jackal58 - 13%
26. syllogism - 95%
27. Curu - 14.8%
28. RedFF - 7%
29. Foolishness - 0%
30. Aidnai - 1%
31. RebirthOfLeGenD - 6%
32. Scamp - 60%

Note: all percentages are exact


Oh so my grade book system wasn't good enough for you? You had to go ahead and create your own?

THIS MEANS WAR.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2011 03:08 GMT
#749
On August 16 2011 11:59 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 07:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 07:12 tnkted wrote:
I don't see the names, but I do see 'i will kill u kitaman.' and why would they remove the names but not the grades?


They should be back now. The death threats are clearly a sign of the perceived threat to the scum team.


[image loading]


OH HAI
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2011 03:58 GMT
#759
Err so am I really being shot LSB? -_-
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2011 04:24 GMT
#783
On August 16 2011 13:09 LSB wrote:
Kitaman27 I want you to say this very carefully "I am not scum"


I am not scum

The fact that you randomly decided to shoot me without even providing a decent explanation is rather disappointing. Is it safe to assume your role matches that with the Ace role in the invite pm, meaning its true I wasn't lying since your shot didn't go through?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2011 04:27 GMT
#784
Oh, even better:

I am not scum and third party.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2011 05:04 GMT
#801
On August 16 2011 13:46 LSB wrote:
Apparently I missed Kitaman27 and hit someone else, wtf


Is that a side-effect of your role if you shoot someone who is not lying or something? Where is the extra kp if you did indeed hit someone else?

On August 16 2011 13:50 sandroba wrote:
Kita, you seem to believe that you were indeed shot, but somehow here you are. Did you bus yourself with another player? If so whom?


Nope, I didn't.
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August 16 2011 16:39 GMT
#864
LSB, this is the third time I've had to ask you, but will you confirm that you can only shoot liars? This is Ace's role that incog gave with the invite pm:

Ace: You are a vigilante! However, there’s a catch: you may only shoot people who are lying.


I never received any indication that I was hit, nor did I bus it away from me. He didn't claim his shot until night actions lock, so its not like I could prevent it, even if I wanted to.

As for the green/blue role pms, don't claim publicly which one you have in the thread. For all we know, kav/chez could have a win condition to hunt all the blues. Bum, was your nuke real or was that another fake shot?

Pandain, I'm not sure if you made the same connection as I did with red, but don't ban him yet. Would you be willing to share what your personality is redFF? It's not like we don't already know your Floridian role and it might be relevant, which I'll reveal later.

Sandroba, you mentioned in pms that you decided not to contact me on day one because you thought I was Ace, but never had the chance to respond before you got role blocked? Could you explain your reasoning for not wanting to contact the Ace personality?
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August 16 2011 16:40 GMT
#865
lol ninja'd
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August 16 2011 23:32 GMT
#960
On August 17 2011 04:53 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 04:50 Mig wrote:
I am no rocket scientist but Bum claiming he nuked kav because of a posting restriction seems like complete bs. Can anyone think up a logical posting restriction that would force him to kill kav? He didn't fire day1, it wasn't because kav has claimed his personality (plenty of other people have done that). Bum now that you have been banned can you say specifically why you shot kav.


Because he was chezinu and I am incognito.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 02:28 Incognito wrote:
See? Something turned up. Given how the last few pages turned out I'm pretty confident the recent posters are town. I wouldve expected maybe 1 player on the Kavdragon lynch to actually be mafia, but I guess there's two. At this point, my guess is on Chezinu and Caller.

Feel free to lynch me. But I seriously doubt you'll be able to, once I do the exact opposite of what the mafia would want to do.

##Nuke Chezinu

Everyone should agree that getting rid of Chezinu is a pro-town move. Especially now that there is a vote check on the Kavdragon lynch. Now seriously, what mafia would shoot into a vote list that has 2/6 red on it? Unless of course I am conspiring with GMarshal to screw over the town, this doesn't make any sense. But then again, conspiring with GMarshal doesn't make too much sense either if I'm announcing that option. Furthermore, it makes no sense for mafia to take America. Especially after Radfield proclaimed it an anti-town role. But if you think about it, its the most transparent role in the game. There's no way for me to hide from a misuse of the role, and its not like I can use it to kill blatant townspeople without significant backlash. Frankly put, America is a ridiculous option for mafia. There are way better KP roles for them to use. So feel free to pile your votes on me now. Nobody else type the nuke command. When Ver confirms that a nuke has been launched, you can all take your votes off me, ok?

I'll be back later with some more thoughts.

- Hide Spoiler -
Funny thing I saw a couple days ago in the news: "IMF chief's arrest stirs up anti-Americanism in France" Seems fitting, huh Radfield?


FOR AMERICA



I have a question for you bum:

If you had to nuke chezinu, why did you wait until day two to do so? Wouldn't it have had made more sense on day one, so we had the extra information in determining the lynch? Can you confirm that your role is completely gone or have you received a new power, like kurumi hinted at?

Also, Jackal you mentioned on day one that you lynched aidnai for a special reason, now that both kav and aidnai have flipped and kurumi is dead, can you reveal that reason?
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August 18 2011 02:51 GMT
#1120
Oh right, I should probably vote shouldn't I. Going with LSB because he is a jerk.

Also, anyone notice Opz randomly has a vote?
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August 18 2011 03:46 GMT
#1134
America is scum? Clearly mods are terrorists.
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August 18 2011 17:14 GMT
#1189
The only reason it makes sense for bum to have nuked kav is if scum knew he was the inventor and was willing to make the 1:1 trade. Sandroba, did you tell anyone else about his invention that he intended to give you?

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August 19 2011 00:58 GMT
#1236
On August 19 2011 09:54 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:51 youngminii wrote:
Wtf? I asked how did Red have 2 votes when he said one was stolen, I'll ask as many questions as I want.

Anyway, I just realised that deconduo must be able to use the bought vote for his own good. In that case, for Day 2 why is deconduo's vote on bum while his bought vote (opz) on LSB?


Voted for LSB first when I thought there was a chance of lynching him. When it was clear that wasn't going to happen I switched back to bum to ensure we got a lynch, even though I thought he was probably town. I couldn't change the bought vote though.


You claiming politician deconduo? If that's the case, would you be willing to share your personality?
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August 19 2011 01:42 GMT
#1248
On August 19 2011 10:04 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:54 deconduo wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:51 youngminii wrote:
Wtf? I asked how did Red have 2 votes when he said one was stolen, I'll ask as many questions as I want.

Anyway, I just realised that deconduo must be able to use the bought vote for his own good. In that case, for Day 2 why is deconduo's vote on bum while his bought vote (opz) on LSB?


Voted for LSB first when I thought there was a chance of lynching him. When it was clear that wasn't going to happen I switched back to bum to ensure we got a lynch, even though I thought he was probably town. I couldn't change the bought vote though.


You claiming politician deconduo? If that's the case, would you be willing to share your personality?


Yeah I already did after this:

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 09:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 19 2011 09:38 redFF wrote:
oh yeah my day 1 vote was bought by a politician it says -1 on the day 1 votecount for me i think or some shit.

There is no way for me to gain votes as far as i can tell. Vote me for mayor and maybe we will discover new hidden powers!


cool, jimbosilvers is in this game as a personality then.


I claimed poli to sandroba before in PMs if you want verification, though he seems to have disappeared..


Could you explain your reasoning for blindly trusting sandro with a role claim day one?
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August 19 2011 02:44 GMT
#1255
On August 19 2011 11:37 tnkted wrote:
Nice rolefishing @ BC there, I'll reveal my role after I use my power, not bloody well until then. Should be obvious at this point though (although maybe not! I'm probably doing a very bad impression) (hint: don't waste time on this)


Can't resist....

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
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August 19 2011 12:56 GMT
#1324
curu's story sounds legit, considering half his posts were filled with Mig and VE praise. Have to say Palmar, that smurf account could have been a really useful scum tool if you actually used it.
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August 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#1377
[image loading]


The Day Three Mayoral Race
Do you have what it takes?


Ladies, gentlemen, and BC, I am proud to announce the next step in my revolutionary campaign: The Day Three Mayoral Race! Day one elections are a thing of the past. Earlier I mentioned how important the acquisition and management of information is to a successful town. After an in depth analysis of the game of mafia, it can be concluded without a doubt that a day three mayoral election is vital to this process.

One of the biggest hits to town morale is a successful red check. As the town already has identified the lynch target, it completely shuts down discussion for 48 hours. As a proven scumhunter, it is clear to me that we need to continue to generate activity. By holding a mayoral election, it allows candidates to share their ideas and provides additional information by analyzing the connections that are made.

[image loading]


Those who wish to run for mayor must simply declare their candidacy in the thread. The following criteria must be discussed by all candidates:

1) How will you lead the town to victory?
2) What or who are the biggest problems preventing the town from achieving this victory?
3) Do you like broccoli?

Why run for mayor, you ask? The town needs a leader. A person we can trust and then later blame when things go horribly, horribly wrong. In addition, you will be the recipient of a fancy monocle and top hat.

[image loading]
Disclaimer: Mr. Peanut not included


We all can't be the person that leads the town to victory. Remember, the true heroes are the ones that make their voices heard through a vote (*Rolls eyes). As a result, I've taken the time to list the following people who are eligible to run. If your name is not included, its probably because you are bad.

Eligible Candidates:
kitaman27
Youngminii
Flamewheel
Barundar
Mr. Wiggles
Sandroba
Node
jackal58
syllogism
Curu
RebirthOfLeGenD

I have no doubt Ver and Incognito approve of this election. In fact, to make things easier for them, make sure to place all votes in the voting thread using the following format: ##Vote Player. Good luck to all candidates, the town is counting on you!
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August 19 2011 18:36 GMT
#1387
On August 20 2011 03:34 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:12 kitaman27 wrote:
. If your name is not included, its probably because you are bad.

Eligible Candidates:
Not Pandain


-.-


I'm always open to bribery.

Also, I'm getting a clear anti-town feeling from those ignoring my plan.
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August 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#1394
On August 20 2011 03:39 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 03:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:34 Pandain wrote:
On August 20 2011 03:12 kitaman27 wrote:
. If your name is not included, its probably because you are bad.

Eligible Candidates:
Not Pandain


-.-


I'm always open to bribery.

Also, I'm getting a clear anti-town feeling from those ignoring my plan.


LOL

4 of the people on your list don't even have a page worth of posts in this thread yet.


Exactly, by calling them out to run for mayor, it forces them to contribute. Perhaps you are incapable of comprehending my genius plans.

On August 20 2011 03:39 Palmar wrote:
I'm claiming mafia.


On August 14 2011 06:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Role claim scum: -100
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August 19 2011 18:56 GMT
#1400
Sure you can, scum players are allowed to communicate with each other.
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August 19 2011 19:10 GMT
#1404
youngminii truly cares for town.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 19 2011 22:15 GMT
#1434
VE, could you explain what made you decide not to protect anyone on night one? I honestly can't think of a reason why a medic wouldn't want to attempt to save someone, unless you die if you protect a scum or something.

Node and Flamewheel, you guys should sub out if you don't have the time to make 2-3 posts a cycle.

Misder, I would like a huge post from you giving your opinions of at least 2-3 people, not named Palmar or Curu.
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August 20 2011 00:32 GMT
#1442
On August 20 2011 09:01 Scamp wrote:
Good lord, what the hell happened while I was away?

Pretty much everything I wanted to talk about is now moot.


Mind sharing what you were thinking, even if it might not apply anymore?
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August 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#1515
Another problem with a quicklynch is that if you cast the single vote and end the day, there could be another red check and we have to wait an entire additional cycle.
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August 22 2011 02:37 GMT
#1537
lol why me curu?

Seems to me that you don't appreciate all my well thought out plans.
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August 22 2011 04:40 GMT
#1581
-_-

On August 22 2011 12:20 redFF wrote:
LOLOLLOLOLOLOLL
haha
##Vote Sandroba


I went through your post history and the only time you ever mentioned Sandroba was when you asked curu about him. What made you suddenly decide he was scum and vote for him within a couple minutes of the day post?

On August 22 2011 12:38 redFF wrote:
ERM


I DID NOT DO THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WTF JUST HAPPENED.

probably pandain the role thief.


How could pandain be the role thief? He already proved that his role as Qatol was to ban people by removing their powers. Are you saying he can both ban people and steal other people's roles? That doesn't really make any sense.
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August 22 2011 15:06 GMT
#1594
Just a reminder, make sure to submit your self-analysis based upon the day four lynch.
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August 23 2011 03:58 GMT
#1644
On August 19 2011 23:47 Pandain wrote:
atmosphereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


GG. Thanks for hosting Ver and Incog.

If anyone wants an amusing read, take a look at around page 66 and on for all of us trying to bait curu to say his bomb trigger :p
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August 23 2011 14:21 GMT
#1673
Its extremely difficult to balance a game with 32 blues. Mafia needed to have some pretty powerful roles or things would have spiraled out of hand had some things gone the other way. For example, imagine some combination of LSB's vig shot going through day one, the list checker invention given to a town who wasn't role blocked, a successful medic protection on Foolishness, a witch brings Meapak back to life, ghrur shoots pandain instead of kurumi or a information role coming up red. Town had some pretty strong roles too and out of all those kp, the only one that went through was Jackal's attempted suicide on sandroba, which accidentally killed syllo.


2 shot vig that only kills scum
nurfed inventor
conditional vig
role claim vig
rng tracker + watcher + day 1 bulletproof
mass mason
day vig
dt + 3 person mason
vote rigger
multishot conditional assassin
witch
double vote + bodyguard
role cop
conditional vig
inventor after twin sac
vet + dodge one lynch
admiral akbar
conditional vig + mason
medic
politician
conditional vote rigger


I think the biggest problem was there never was a time where someone could push a lynch or punish someone for being scummy. Day one we had the aidnai fake red check, day two bum randomly throws a nuke at chez, day three we have a red check, and day four was rigged. With such a high mafia kp, town really needed to hit at least a couple of scum during the first two cycles. People can't be allowed to have 10 posts by endgame. I'm not sure what the solution to this would have been, besides continuously hounding them or threatening vig shots.

The roles were pretty imaginative and did a good job matching the personalities. Perhaps, rather thing forcing post restrictions on people, give some suggestions and encourage, but not require it. I can see how the framing role can be pretty frustrating for town. Perhaps a no flip or night action only modification would have worked out better. Other than maybe a limit on the number of bombs Barundar could use, mafia roles seemed reasonable. I liked that fact that we were given a suicide bomber and role thief in order to counteract any insanely strong town powers or role claimers.

Just curious, did I get the forced role claim + role thief power since they were both of the roles I made for PTP/PTP2 or was that just a really big coincidence :p

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August 23 2011 15:10 GMT
#1679
On August 23 2011 23:23 Curu wrote:
Oh I just realized the Traitor was unlynchable and gave the Mafia 1 KP and a mislynch too.

-_-


Traitor also could never be recruited so we if accidentally shot him, he died. We got one guess in order to communicate with him and we were looking for a Fishball, but we ended up going with tnkted because of this:

You are Showtime!

Enter a deal with the mafia from day 1 to act with them and be converted. Successfully enter the town's blue circle and subvert control over everyone, effectively winning the game on your own. Get vigi'ed by a crazed townie before you are converted and lose.


We were kinda hoping he would just jump on a lynch one of the days, but I understand what BC was thinking, being worried about accidentally getting a scum lynched.
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August 23 2011 16:35 GMT
#1683
On August 24 2011 01:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
You as a team were retarded, and you failed to find me once.


Not our fault we can't distinguish your town play from your traitor play <3
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August 24 2011 03:15 GMT
#1709
Another smaller game with a tighter leash on lurkers would definitely be fun. Something else that should probably be steered away from in future games were the rivalry-type roles. They are nice for flavor, but the mechanics rarely seem to work out. The day one lynch was essentially decided before the game started when Kav and aidnai both attacked each other because of their role pm's. Jackal was forced to unnaturally push kurumi to be lynched, even though he probably had a town read and had nothing to gain for actually following his restriction. It might work out if one is town and one is scum, but that is a fairly serious nerf to the scum member. In general, any roles that require people to do things, but not be allowed to explain why, seem really unnatural.
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