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On August 11 2011 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmar, you're going a little overboard bra. Breathe.  You're probably scum | ||
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On August 12 2011 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote: Of course I am. What's funny is that I've been scum maybe once on this site, yet you think I'm scum every game. Your scumdar is immaculate bro. lol, my scumdar on you is just fine: snmm2 - you were town, I was scum PTP - you were town, I thought you were scum CCM - you were town, I thought you were town RTM - you were scum, I thought you were scum AA - you were scum, I thought you were scum snmm5 - you were town, I was scum and said you were scum So that means I read you right 3 out of 4 times I was actually trying to scumhunt. | ||
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deconduo makes sense, so he's probably scum. | ||
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a) "I'm the Jack and I rolechecked Ace. He's mafia." (You are actually the Village Idiot and Ace is the Godfather) Ace proceeds to resign midway through day 1 and Caller is forced to restart the game. GG no re. From RebirthOfLeGenD's part in the TL mafia quiz. So, I don't know how much we can deduce from it, Kenpachi could very well be a VI, Jackal could very well be red, or even godfather, or it might just be a random posting restriction. | ||
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Amber is currently living right up to his scum meta (ie: doing nothing) | ||
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I'm an idiot, ignore me. | ||
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First of all, he actually apologizes about something we all know is completely up to interpretation. This is just a tiny thing I've never seen from Kurumi before, he usually is quite happy to spam in polish. On August 14 2011 02:25 Kurumi wrote: i might be wrong i am not native english speaker sorry i thought about both ways (aka it is linked or not) but i want to see my truth (that is "roles" are connected to alignment) also kitaman, if i must be crazy how i can stop doing it? ;p also, please, pick pokemon for me so i can keep up with the lets play  Next up, another thing I've never seen from Kurumi before, seemingly he's actually emotional about the fact that he's being fos'd: On August 14 2011 04:25 Kurumi wrote: I honestly fucking hate being called useless and being lynched in favor of scum And lastly, the post that actually made me go back and re-read his entire history this game, this post jumped out to me when reading the thread, I'm pretty sure this is about the most un-kurumi like post that I've ever seen. On August 14 2011 04:33 Kurumi wrote: sorry for forgetting the most important thing about being town (aka painting Yourself as town so noone mislynches You -_-) I am done with arguing with Jackal, because as mentioned in many guides arguing with scum/tunnelers won't do any good because they won't change their minds. I am intrigued with deconduo and I shall observe his posting. There are several things in there that are really bad, first off he apologizes for not playing pro-town enough (lol, when have you ever given a shit kurumi, remember CCM where I accused him of not playing pro-town, and he just shrugged it off). Then he does a classical scum move to try to shed responsibility, which is to mention guides and external resources. It's a little thing, but most town players tend to assume the things they say as their own for creditability, but mafia likes to quote sources to remove importance. I think Kurumi is scum ##Vote Kurumi | ||
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On June 28 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote: I will continue herping derping till something worth a while comes or two men in black come to my house. And his answer to my FoS, again as town in CCM On June 28 2011 22:02 Kurumi wrote: Palmar,call a hit on Caller then I will start caring about Your worthless post-by-post "analysis". Trying to get rid of "weak" townie? Caller is bigger fish,too big for Your scummy mouth to swallow. I won't get lynched myself Day 1 like in XXXIX,in this game I will defend myself and bring town scum to lynch. | ||
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On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote: So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum. | ||
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On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote: I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about. the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy. | ||
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On August 14 2011 07:52 Kurumi wrote: bill murray must die Did you revert back to trolling because I called you out for not trolling? | ||
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The last thing removing someone's powers does is to shut them up... | ||
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No one is assuming he's town, I actually have an analysis a few pages back where I'm pretty sure he's scum. Problem is, Pandain's logic of removing his powers would be perfectly sensical if Pandain thought Kurumi was scum, but since he claims to have had a town read on Kurumi, and just wanted to stop the spam, his actions stop making sense. Removing someone's powers only leave them spamming. | ||
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Curu, it makes absolutely no sense to roleclaim early, especially not with an information role unless you think there is even the slightest possibility to get lynched as scum. Really, you should never roleclaim when you are an information role, and by the looks of it you're some sort of a tracker. This just screams at me scum who wants to have a pro-town role claim solidified very early in the game. I don't see any other reason why you'd want to claim your role this early. | ||
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On August 14 2011 10:27 Mig wrote: I am curious did anyone have their role alignment stated in their PM? I didn't but I don't understand how people could be confused. My name was in a town color, my alignment seemed pretty self explanatory. I don't really understand why meapak/jackal would be confused about their alignmentt. Yeah, I had the same thing, no specific alignment stated, just a green name. Why are you so inactive in the thread Mig? You're being a lot more useless than you normally are as town, have you got something to hide? | ||
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Scamp, what the hell man? If Pandain flips town you should be the one hanging. Things like "I don't think he's scum but I'll shoot him anyway" is exactly why pandain was under suspicion anyway. | ||
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On August 14 2011 23:57 Curu wrote: @Palmar I can't explain why I claimed already. It's incredibly stupid and serves no purpose, but suffice to say I had compelling reasons. I take that to mean you have a posting restriction. | ||
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On August 15 2011 04:43 Mig wrote: I can confirm that me and pandain are lovers and I am very sad that scamp shot him  Now I may not be a great mafia player but even I can see that scamp's reasoning behind shooting pandain was hella shady. Pandain had only 3 votes on him at the time you try and use the reasoning that he is definitely going to be lynched so he needs to die so we don't discuss him. There was absolutely no way you could say pandain was going to be auto lynched. So you shot someone you thought was a townie for a horrible horrible reason. Then you proceed to disappear lol. Combined with that your previous 3 posts are completely fluff and contribute nothing. a) I played a game where Jackal and I were lovers. One of us was scum. Can you clarify how this thing between you guys works? b) do you have a post restriction forcing you to repeat you being bad at this game? Other than that, we really need that flip, because if pandain is town I'm voting for you. | ||
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Intervention ![[image loading]](http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/191/cache/iceland-volcano-lightning-4_19116_600x450.jpg) This thread sucks. Everything about it sucks. We're not scumhunting properly, we're trolling and the post restrictions are really out of hand. That said, we're 6 hours before the lynch, and sadly Scamp just hopped into the thread and then disappeared, we still don't know if Pandain is going to actually die. So, we need to reach majority to get a lynch going. that's 17 votes on one person. How do we do this? We consolidate our votes onto 2-3 targets and argue between them. If we do get some obvious information that leads to someone outside the list, we can respond to that. But here's the deal, the votes are all over the place and we need to lynch someone. So I'd like to present you with three options for a lynch today. This should be the focus of discussion until the lynch actually happens.
And, then there's the part where we tell lurkers they suck and need to step up their game. Vigis, feel free to randomly shoot into this list of players: Youngminii, OpZ, Flamewheel, DoctorHelvetica, Kenpachi, Misder, Chezinu, Fishball, BloodyC0bbler. Those guys are doing nothing to help us find the scum. As for myself, my vote is going for Scamp. If it comes to it, I can switch to another good target, unless some ridiculous last minute train forms on someone who's obviously not scum. Any of the three targets mentioned are good lynches. Here is why you should be voting Scamp. Scamp So, this guy has done almost nothing in the thread but blatantly push mafia objectives. He has four posts in the thread, probably because he's happy he isn't under any suspicion at the moment. First off, a promise to scumhunt. I consider promising to do stuff in advance very much a mafia trait, because they want to make sure everyone thinks they're contributing. On August 13 2011 16:53 Scamp wrote: I just realized I probably won't be able to flavor hunt very well because I'm willing to bet a lot of the references will be from when I wasn't playing. So, scumhunting it is, then. And then, just a random "hi, I'm here guys, I have no reads, don't listen to me" post. He makes sure to tell us that he's sort of unimportant to the game as whole, as he didn't get a big personality, then goes on to tell us that he has no scum reads. He's not trying to push anyone's buttons. On August 14 2011 07:40 Scamp wrote: I kind of expected this much craziness during day 1. Unfortunately I didn't get a "big" personality so I'm not going to have as much fun this day 1 as other people seem to be having. I haven't gotten any solid scum reads on anyone so far. Mostly because generally people are posting only once or twice and I can't get a good read from that, or they're spamming like crazy and I ignore most of it. I do seem to be +3 on block currently. That's nice. That is until he decides someone is scummy enough to be shot by a day vigi, that is his window to act. Get credit for shooting a scummy player, and use a kill. But all it did is put us in a bad situation. a) the shot lands, if pandain flips town he should be hanged for taking a bad excuse and using it to day vig someone in the game. It almost looks like scum trying to buy town credit and then shrugging the bad flip off as "he was bad anyway". or b) it's a troll post, which has left us wondering for hours and is just shitting up our thread. On August 14 2011 23:43 Scamp wrote: We should probably have Kenpachi nameclaim in order to verify what the hell is going on. And the whole Pandain thing is getting ridiculous. What he did was idiotic, no doubt, but was it scummy? I can't see scum getting so caught up in the flavor that he thought he was getting townie points by removing BM. However, most people can't seem to think that any townie would ever do that so there we go. It's pretty much a one-note case that will most likely end up being our lynch for the day and I don't want our day 1 to revolve around it. Thus... ##Kill: Pandain Now let's start playing this game. Look at how much town cred he is trying to claim at the end of that post. The only thing that would make him look town-like to me is if the shot lands and Pandain flips red, but given Scamp's shitty posting style so far in the thread, I don't think we'll have to worry about that. So, my vote is going for Scamp Scamp is scum ##Vote: Scamp | ||
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On August 15 2011 06:44 ~OpZ~ wrote: I msgd incog but maybe I should of told ver too. If I can replace out plz do it. I wrecked my motorcycle on my bday n lost my availability I had. Fucked sorry to hear that man | ||
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On August 15 2011 07:16 Scamp wrote: You don't think we have a better picture on Pandain than what people were arguing about before? You also don't think that just maybe I had to do something like that for some kind of reason? And it was more like 24 hours left in the day. 5 hours left is accurate, I didn't plan on sleeping after getting food. So now you're claiming a posting restriction that forces you to fake-shoot someone? So Pandain will actually not flip? | ||
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On August 15 2011 07:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Posting restrictions suck. I forgot to include this guy on my vigi-target list. | ||
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On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote: Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers. Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate. Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town: Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm, AND Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes. Let it be resolved: Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town. Jackal Fishball Curu Palmar Syllo LSB Kenpachi BloodyC0bbler Meapak These people need to put there votes on one of us two. And what happens if you're wrong about Aidnai? Are you going to push for your own lynch? | ||
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On August 15 2011 07:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: but i'z a really cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything. Another restriction? | ||
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On August 15 2011 07:37 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: For those of us who have read two posts in the entire thread (including this one) care to elaborate on why one of you is confirmed somethingsomething? Read my post about the state of the thread. Aidnai has been completely useless, he's a good lynch. I think scamp is the best lynch atm. | ||
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I'm going to vote aidnai since no one is getting on the scamp wagon. Aidnai is a good lynch anyway. | ||
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On August 15 2011 08:22 Kavdragon wrote: I won't be. Obviously it would be againts my win condition for me to push for my own lynch. I am 100% sure about him. I'm just going to assume you're claiming an information role. Go people, vote for aidnai! | ||
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On August 15 2011 08:47 Jackal58 wrote: I don't think scum would get a mason role. <3 | ||
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On August 15 2011 23:49 youngminii wrote: lol kurumi he was trolling the entire eg announcement thread he knew the temp was coming Vigilantes: GO! | ||
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On August 16 2011 00:00 tnkted wrote: No, vigs, don't hit kurumi. Unless palmar meant youngminii? I have no opinions one way or the other on that, I have no read on YM. In unrelated news, should we be talking about sandroba right now? Yes, you all know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about that. I want them to shoot YM, but then again, shooting Kurumi is a decent idea too. What do you want to discuss about sandroba? He sent some pms, he has been in contact with me since the beginning of the game. He asked for protection, which seeing as he can PM everyone in the game is reasonable. He can literally be the mouth for all our information roles. DT checking him is a decent idea, and outing it in the thread, before anyone sends him information and thus gives away his role. I don't think scumroba would pull this off. Also, he chose to initiate contact with me right away, and I know him quite well. It's a big risk for him to talk to me so early. | ||
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On August 16 2011 00:15 youngminii wrote: Why would you want to shoot me, wtf? I've seen you play good town. | ||
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On August 16 2011 00:37 tnkted wrote: You don't think sandaroba could pull this off? Well, maybe. I've played exactly one game with him, so I don't know what he's capable of. But just because HE couldn't pull it off doesn't mean that he isn't being coached. Look at the player list; this is like, superscumvet city in this hizzy. He might not be capable of pulling off this gambit by himself, but how many people in that list are? I can count 5 off the top of my head. Perhaps someone with more experience in PM games can tell me more, but I don't trust this, it feels to me like a medic draw. All medic protect sandaroba and then the mafia suicide bombs him, killing everyone BUT him; I can see something like that happen, and who here honestly doubts that we have a suicide bomber in this game? That being said, if we can confirm sandaroba's cred, we need to protect him at all costs. Mason circles are a good thing for town, but I don't believe in trusting blindly, and I prefer to have everybody sitting at the same table when I'm playing cards. He is not being coached live in my discussions with him. I think I can tell when sandroba is town and when he is scum, and I think he is town. But yes, suicide bomber would suck massively. | ||
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On August 16 2011 07:02 youngminii wrote: wait why is kavdragon walking free when he basically said some cryptic shit about aidnai being walton and having the need to kill him what's it all about i don't get it No, but you're actually not reading the thread. | ||
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On August 16 2011 14:40 bumatlarge wrote: Kavdragon is scum, because he is chezinu. No need to think about it though. I have to do this though, because Kav is so selfish, kill your own brother to get special powers? That screams scum. I'll handle this. ##Nuke Kavdragon Is this yet another posting restriction? In any case, can you please somehow indicate if this will actually land so we don't have to wait around. There are so many better targets for a day vigi kill. ghrur, scamp, barundar all come to mind. ##Vote Bumatlarge In other news VE and Scamp both just disappeared when the storm around them calmed. | ||
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On August 16 2011 13:24 kitaman27 wrote: I am not scum The fact that you randomly decided to shoot me without even providing a decent explanation is rather disappointing. Is it safe to assume your role matches that with the Ace role in the invite pm, meaning its true I wasn't lying since your shot didn't go through? Did you actually get shot? LSB seems to have been claiming a shot on you right before the lynch, but claims his shot was redirected. You talk as if you know that you got hit, so how did you survive? | ||
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I think you're scum because you're not putting in the slightest effort. He did the same thing on day 1, we promptly ignored him. | ||
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I thought everyone was green, or red? | ||
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I reserve the right to think you're scum until someone else flips/claims blue. | ||
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Why did you claim it anyway? You could've easily passed that off as just an assumption, but you really felt like you needed to roleclaim because of this? This, coupled with your surprisingly harsh response to some weak accusations on day one looks like you're more self-aware than you should be. | ||
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On August 17 2011 00:53 Scamp wrote: Unvote Vote: RedFF for mayor Actually, I agree with Palmar and Curu here and think Pandain should target me for a ban. I'd really like to see what happens. Anyway, Palmar is looking pretty scummy to me and Deconduo is relying way too much on flavor at this point. In addition, I don't mind Kenpachi's claim at this point but would like to see more activity from both him and Jackal. As for me I won't be able to post much today but I will keep up with the thread. For anyone who thinks I'm scummy just think of what I did yesterday with a clear head. I think what you did yesterday was to throw us into confusion for a long time with no results from it. You claimed "it shed light on Pandain", but that is just straight up false. I can see that you being forced to ##Kill someone on day 1 is not a far stretch for a posting restriction, but clearly there was nothing stopping you from making it obvious it wouldn't work, yet you didn't do that until much later. Anyway, thanks for that, when you flip red I'll be as good as confirmed. | ||
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VE roleclaimed to me today. | ||
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I am not scum. Why didn't you open any discussion about it before you nuked bum? I think you're just trying to get away with day-vigging a townie. | ||
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On August 17 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote: We should not kill Bumatlarge Has he been retarded? Yes But just because someone is being dumb is not a reason to lynch him. For example, see almost every game I play. I always end up doing something dumb, and get lynched. But I always have the truest intentions. The point is, bumatlarge hasn't been scummy, he's just been shady. And that's an important distinction. When seeing someone who's doing "off" things, we need to look at if they have a mafia INTENTION when they do it. Would a mafia be so reckless and careless when defending himself? Not unless he has already given up, in which case we would've at least seen a defense from him intentionally. Would a mafia have been so reckless as to FRICKIN NUKE KAVDRAGON? I mean seriously, that was just retarded. I feel Bumatlarge is town just for the pure fact he hasn't acted mafiaesque. Yes he's acted shady, but remember the difference. He hasn't been extremely active to appear pro town. He hasn't been inactive either. Furthormore, the fact that there has been no resistance to bumatlarge being lynched has me worried. I feel like mafia are just letting town mislynch again and again, while usually when a mafia gets lynched they always at least offer up a counter lynch. I'm not sure exactly who to lynch, but I'm sure there are better options then bumatlarge. I'll analyze and report my findings soon. So again you go off and use your abilities on someone you think is town? You did this on day one, then went all "kurumi is town". What the hell man, I don't think there is any way around it, the reason you've been allowed to live is the assumption that if one lover dies the other one goes too, and I think Mig is town. But this shit is too much. I think we have our answer now. you're the scummy fucker in this love relationship. You're even defending your bumatlarge, which makes no sense for town to do at this point. There is no logic behind your defense of him, it just reeks of you having information you shouldn't have. I'm switching my vote to you. ##Vote Pandain | ||
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On August 17 2011 05:38 bumatlarge wrote: You guys make me proud. I'm tearing up here. I still think you might be bussing him. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Bumatlarge Pandain's defending of Bumatlarge does not make any sense whatsoever if Pandain is red and Bumatlarge green. If Pandain is red and Bumatlarge green, what's the motivation behind trying to actively push a lynch away from town that was almost surely going to be lynched? Why on earth would he put his neck out to try to stop a lynch on town? What I think is happening here is that they're both red, but they realized that if Pandain gets lynched now, Bumatlarge looks really good. If Bumatlarge gets lynched now, Pandain is still under heavy suspicion. Voila, make a scummy defense post, give Bumatlarge a fuckton of town-credit, bus one scum, and you're good to go. Losing Pandain at this point for the scumteam is the optimal play since Bumatlarge was going to get lynched. | ||
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Like, really, he is the guy that should be hanging tonight. I don't care if we can vigi pandain just to get that out of the way. But Bum is the guy to vote for. Go for it! | ||
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On August 17 2011 11:45 bumatlarge wrote: Because he called both myself and kurumi town, but blocked both of us with his ban powers. He called me town, at a point where I woould barely call myself town. He's dumb for just randomly using his powers and then saying random shit, but he's not going around lurking and nuking townies. I'll be glad to have you hanging before him, we can vigi pandain tonight. I don't think you flipping red will clear him, and if you flip green... well then he's an idiot and should be vigged just for that. But you're the one who needs to be hanging tonight. Like, I'm completely certain you're scum, and you're the scum that needs to be hanging. | ||
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On August 17 2011 18:31 Jackal58 wrote: Is the nuke headed for Pandain or Bum? It says it's headed for Kavdragon/Chezinu. | ||
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Sandroba told me someone (other than Kurumi) claimed an inventor role for him. The invention simply means there is another inventor out there, or Pandain is really a rolethief and claimed that role to sandroba. | ||
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On August 17 2011 21:30 Jackal58 wrote: Why would day Vigs be scum? I'm including Pandain in this. Why is Kav being nuked again and who did it? Why do you have 2 votes redFF? Palmar - Did you tell Sandroba VE is Coagulation? Why the hell are we letting Node, LSB, RoL, Scamp, Sandroba, ~OPZ~, and Flamewheel get away with 1 post a day? Oh look - There's seven of them. Where the fuck is Misder? Bumatlarge claimed to not have nuked him again, so it's someone else... why? I have no idea. I did not know VE was coag until day 2, and by that time sandroba couldn't pm anyone anymore, so no, I did not tell him that. Because our vigs suck and aren't shooting lurkers. | ||
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On August 17 2011 21:48 Jackal58 wrote: My vote was on Pandain before you voted Pandain and then moved it to Bum. I didn't jump on anything. I think both are gong to end up being town. I think I'd rather see one of the 7 lurkers get lynched. You're never going to build a good enough case against one of the lurkers to get them lynched. You should be taking a stance on this lynch here. Like, I'm obviously going all-in with this, I'm just 100% certain bumatlarge is scum. He needs to hang. Read Bum's posts again, there is no motivation for posting like he does as town, but maybe trying to convince you is futile. | ||
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The only way to use such an ability is to nuke a scummy town/spammer/lurker and then try to brush it off as a pro-town move. He just underestimated the sentiment in the town that Kav wasn't scum. | ||
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On August 18 2011 03:23 youngminii wrote: I don't get why RoL prefers a no lynch. No lynches are pretty fucking terrible for town. I think you answered your own question. | ||
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That's surprisingly bad logic from you Mig, Bum is completely useless, so you don't want to lynch him and want to lynch other completely useless people? Something is off about you this game. And yes, the Bum lynch is the way to go, this LSB train is just... derp. | ||
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On August 17 2011 13:15 bumatlarge wrote: BRILLIANT! To put it on the record, this has nothing to do with me. But I completely support the action. that's bum after the second nuke. I thought that was conclusive. | ||
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No lynch is extremely anti-town, and should not be an option. So haul your asses in here mr. lurkers and get this bumatlarge hanging. | ||
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but I am le tired ![[image loading]](http://onlypositive.net/image.axd?picture=2010%2F7%2Fsleeping-kitten.jpg) | ||
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2 more votes on Bum, preferably a few more to prevent any shenanigans. | ||
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We need this lynch town. Anyone who is part of town and is not voting for Bumatlarge needs to change their votes right now. Scum is counting on the fact that we no lynch today and thus gain nothing to go on for day 3. Do it. | ||
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I need to sleep. If I wake up to a no lynch I'll be mad. | ||
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On August 18 2011 10:43 deconduo wrote: Ugh, a lynch is better than a no lynch. You guys are so apathetic though, its getting on my nerves. There are a massive amount of lurkers that no one is doing anything about. Bum is so far down the list of people we should be lynching, yet you guys are just like 'Easy lynch and I don't have to think about it' And now we know whom to hang if we're not correct about bum! | ||
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On August 18 2011 10:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Bum is very scummy looking, and nothing he's said or done so far has made him look better to me. I say we lynch him, and then get a vig on VE, who has basically disappeared after a lot of pressure on Day 1. VE is not scum. | ||
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I'm begging that our vigis shoot some of those scummy lurkers just skirting the mod-kill limit. | ||
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On August 18 2011 15:48 Mig wrote: I agree very much so. BC is being purposefully useless this game. Avoiding every chance to actually comment or contribute to the town this game. I think you're scum. | ||
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On August 18 2011 19:50 Scamp wrote: Well hey, I guess I get to live tonight since there's no way any town vigs will shoot at me if I have some kind of reflect or bus driving ability. Are you claiming that? | ||
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On August 18 2011 21:30 tnkted wrote: Anyone else notice that our smurf has been quiet lately? Maybe the smurfrider is dead. Also, if you look at the people mafia hit, it was Foolishness and Meap (at least). Foolishness wasn't even posting very much, if I recall correctly, and meapak was. If I were scum, why would I hit foolishness? Meap was an obvious kill but Fool was being useless to town. Look at his posts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=47499 There's like, jack shit in there regarded to analysis. Why kill him then? The vet excuse seems to be the only reasonable option. Therefore we can expect to see the same thing tonight. We'll lose one major town analyst (if I were them, I'd hit Curu) and at least one major vet. No idea who that could be, all the remaining vets other than scamp and jackal have been lurking like Ted Bundies. This post is incredibly scummy. | ||
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The only thing it does is give you an excuse to add something to the thread without actually contributing, and then allow you to wifom depending on how your team decides to spread their hits tonight. "Look, I was wrong on all the kills, I can't be mafia" or "Look, mafia killed exactly my targets, they're trying to set me up!". Seriously, it's non-content, it's useless for town, and I'm pretty sure you're scum. | ||
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On August 19 2011 00:41 tnkted wrote: Here's a question for you palmar: Is this pointless spam, or is it some kind of breadcrumb? useless spam. | ||
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On August 19 2011 20:24 Curu wrote: HEY PALMAR WHAT WERE YOU DOING AT MIG'S HOUSE LAST NIGHT? ##Vote Palmar having dinner. what the hell are you talking about? | ||
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Original Message From Incognito: Curu is an asshole. | ||
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I do not have a visiting role, this entire thing is bullshit. I am flamewheel, I control the smurf, and... that's it. | ||
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If someone wants to day-vig curu, if we have any of those left, just do it. | ||
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On August 19 2011 21:33 Curu wrote: Look at the cute Palmar attacking me. Caught redhanded. Why didn't you bring up your non-points yesterday Palmar boy? non-points? Well of course I'm attacking you. You're doing a 1 for 1 trade to kill me, it makes no sense. At least I'm trying to scumhunt. Your idea of scumhunting was shouting something about fixing atmosphere and then proceeding to quote a few random players and call them scum. Like, nothing you've done is pro-town in this game. From being obnoxious with your restriction until you realized people hated you for it, to spamming away any argument that didn't suit you. The only thing that doesn't make sense is why your team let you bus bumatlarge. | ||
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preferably Curu, but if anyone can, just go for it. | ||
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On August 19 2011 21:46 Curu wrote: The fact that Palmar didn't bring up any points against me nor did he find me suspicious at all until he found out I saw him visiting Mig should remove any doubt in anyone's mind. I've also claimed my role since day 1 so it's not like I just made this shit up. I'll convince you on scumdroba after Palmar hangs, youngminii. You'll be more inclined to believe me then anyways after Palmar's red flip. How is that even an argument? It's not like you suspected me either until you decided to just out yourself through this shit. | ||
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At least I know your scumtells now, being stupidly aggressive and tunneling, and ranting about town atmosphere. enjoy your lynch tomorrow. | ||
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did I do that? No! why? because I'm not scum. | ||
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On August 19 2011 21:57 Curu wrote: Yeah, considering I was almost convinced that smurf was Wiggles. I found your scumtell Palmar - visiting dead people in the middle of the night. For shame. Enjoy your lynch today. Once you flip red your buddy scumdroba will get the noose tomorrow. Sorry to disappoint. you learn from the best. I had exactly the same scum-role as you in PTP2, and I tried exactly the same gambit, lol  | ||
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On August 19 2011 22:02 Curu wrote: Haha, nice scumslip. Your gambit was bussing your scum teammates, ergo you think I'm bussing my scum teammate? Either way you just confirmed yourself as scum. And no, my ability is BC's in PTP. I ain't got shit to do with you, scum. My gambit was to claim Bumatlarge killed sandroba, at least I had the decency to draw a nice picture. Talk about grasping at straws. | ||
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I think you bussed bumatlarge, yes. | ||
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Let's take a look at some of Curu's highlights in this game. Here's last night. On August 18 2011 12:43 Curu wrote: Actually we are fixing this atmosphere. All the people refusing to contribute go. BC, Node, Scamp must all die. Anyone that's a Vig, fire away. Any alive, tomorrow's lynch. Okay Curu, we like that you have this ida of fixing town atmosphere, what do you think is the best way of doing that? Bother to read the thread and do analysis? fuck not, just point your finger at a few different people so it looks like you're aggressive. Here are Curu's next 6 posts after him talking about fixing town atmosphere: + Show Spoiler + On August 18 2011 12:45 Curu wrote: Syllo needs to die too. He's 100% scum. After this he throws up his derp derp analysis which consists of saying people are useless and scum. Thing is this is something I do as scum myself. Because it's hard to come up with convincing arguments when you already know the alignment of people, he just feigns being overly aggressive to avoid having to actually support his cases with analysis or logic. During day 1, Curu was really spammy in the thread, he hid his stuff behind spamming "stop it" and promoting this shit he calls good town atmosphere, basically shutting up people having discussions. His reasons for going after Aidnai were shaky at best, but why oppose a townie lynch? The only weird part is the fact that he was pretty insistent on Bum being scum. But then again, maybe he was insistent enough to be overly sure of it. Seeing as Bum was always going to be under pressure after firing his nuke. Maybe the entire plan was to clear half the scum team by tunneling Bum. Anyway, I'd really, really want a day-vig on Curu, or alternatively on myself, just so we get the lynch right. | ||
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On August 19 2011 22:21 tnkted wrote: Yep, I'm convinced they're both scum now. Why the fuck would scum out themselves like that? | ||
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Oh wait, you don't actually care. | ||
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all it takes is another bullshit like this and we lose. also, from the OP: 32 players ? townies 7 mafia There is no guarantee everyone of those 15 remaining is town aligned. might have a SK or something left. | ||
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I never go down quietly as town. | ||
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On August 19 2011 23:23 Curu wrote: Actually I've never seen you go down as Town. I've seen you go down as scum, where it was stupid hard to get you lynched despite you TELLING THE THREAD that you were Mafia. Good thing Kurumi and heist are not in this game. I'm leaning more and more towards sandroba thinking this was a gambit to get him lynched after Palmar. If he knew for sure Palmar was red and that he himself was red, there's no way he would have been stupid enough to try to vote me. if you say the word atmosphere in any game from now on, I'm lynching you. | ||
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On August 19 2011 23:23 Curu wrote: Actually I've never seen you go down as Town. I've seen you go down as scum, where it was stupid hard to get you lynched despite you TELLING THE THREAD that you were Mafia. Good thing Kurumi and heist are not in this game. I'm leaning more and more towards sandroba thinking this was a gambit to get him lynched after Palmar. If he knew for sure Palmar was red and that he himself was red, there's no way he would have been stupid enough to try to vote me. Check RTM where I was about to get lynched based on nothing but some random list. | ||
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Just a random question, do you actually think that your spamming and shutting down everyone is helpful for town? I was pretty happy about you creating a pro-mafia atmosphere and then ranting about creating a pro-town one. Also, yo mr. traitor, you should claim openly in the thread so my scumbuddies don't shoot you tonight. | ||
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On August 20 2011 03:46 Curu wrote: Nope, but it's better than the useless inactivity and refusal to do anything of half the people in this game. yeah, but in what way does that constitute a pro-town atmosphere? | ||
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You need to claim, feel free to wait until after I flip, but you need to openly claim in the thread. Trust me. | ||
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I gave up to communicate with our traitor to find out he's been modkilled. shit sucks. | ||
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Which one do you think is better for a town to achieve? A small pm circle formed around a confirmed innocent, or a healthy thread with no trolling/spamming and good atmosphere in general? | ||
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Sadly town didn't get too much use out of their powerful roles. And a the ability to paint a flip red is ridiculously powerful. | ||
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And as said, we had very good luck with stopping town from using their power roles. | ||
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On August 24 2011 01:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: honestly dude, after I was modkilled I verified my personality reads with incog and of the ones I had I was damn near spot on in all cases. I also had a general idea of who had what roles because of their personality. The only information you had that I wanted was personalities, as that would confirm if me being lynched would off a mafia or a townie. However, you can say "when as ask you to do something, you do it" but lets face it. By asking me to claim you revealed two things. You as a team were retarded, and you failed to find me once. I wasn't going to out myself to save any of you at that point. Aside from palmar/pandain I was most likely on par activity wise with wiggles and more active than you kita fw and barundar. I wouldn't have traded me for you ever. You outing my role was the dumbest thing in the world. There was always the risk that you shot me yes, however letting town know they had 1 more anti town person to look at is just dumb as fuck. You guys got lucky that PR's really really fucked the town. Thing is, we ran into problems along the way, but problems that could be remedied. We were casually leading the town to a bumatlarge mislynch when Pandain decided to be an idiot just to prove he could, this meant I had to turn on the afterburners to get Bumatlarge lynched, and also meant we had to paint him red for my sake, being the most active scum in the thread. Then for some reason Barundar sent in our hitlist and told incog to make syllo perform all the kills, which was obviously never going to fly, so incog randomed those, and in typical fashion the biggest town-cred scum got owned by RNG, myself. The reason we asked for your claim, was that with our nightkills we simply had to avoid shooting you and we could mathematically not lose barring super saves or some ridiculous town powers. We decided to risk it, as I was getting hanged anyway. Yes, we didn't find you... derp | ||
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I would never have defended Pandain like I did if we couldn't paint bum red. I'd have bussed him super hard. | ||
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