Your confusion doesn't make sense though. You are confused about things that the rest of the town has already discussed and figured out. Then you randomly bring them up again. It basically appears that you are barely reading the thread and instead you are just skimming it and posting random thoughts you have.

And yes plenty of people aren't playing their normal town games and if they are playing worse than normal that makes them a good candidate to be lynched. Saying well other people have been sucking as well doesn't defend your play, which is several steps below what is normal for you.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 11:20 GMT

#824

But I am not as sure as palmar that you are mafia YM, you could just be playing worse than usual as town. So help us out here. Who do you find suspicious and why? Who would you lynch right now with the current information you have?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 19:50 GMT

#908

I am no rocket scientist but Bum claiming he nuked kav because of a posting restriction seems like complete bs. Can anyone think up a logical posting restriction that would force him to kill kav? He didn't fire day1, it wasn't because kav has claimed his personality (plenty of other people have done that). Bum now that you have been banned can you say specifically why you shot kav.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 19:55 GMT

#914

It seems really unlikely to me that the game is balanced around forcing bum to kill a townie if they are revealed.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 20:03 GMT

#919

Kill bum please.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 20:17 GMT

#921

On August 17 2011 04:25 bumatlarge wrote:

Oh balls, I was feeling really god about that too. But it had to be done. Or maybe I had to nuke the actual chezinu. Oh dear. Well now I can actually help.

On August 17 2011 05:00 bumatlarge wrote:
It didn't force me to do anything, I am a free man! Didn't you watch the video? I just couldn't tell you about it, and I thought kav was talking out of his ass with the aidnai thing. It isn't a 1 for 1 trade unless you follow through with it! Plus he was chezinu so it would have made it awesome if I was right.

IT FELT SO RIGHT.

Implying that he was forced to kill kav but then backtracking immediately a page later. His reasons for shooting kav are complete bs and most of the town had already agreed kav was likely not scum. Also you can see bum is obviously just trolling now, he was not trolling at all yesterday but once he was targeted for the lynch he began.If you look at ptp1 where once he was outed as non town joker he just began trolling constantly. It is very similar here.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 20:20 GMT

#924

Node/BC can you guys give any actual reasons at all for your votes? VE/ghrur are never going to be lynched by you posting 1 line and then voting for them. Do you actually think they are scummy and should be lynched? I don't even understand the point of you voting right now if you aren't going to provide any case whatsoever to back your vote up.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 20:31 GMT

#933

Red can you stop spamming about mayor? You are as annoying as kurumi. If you can post a decent analysis and get a scum lynched I will vote for you for mayor.

Also stop posting I am town, we don't need every person spamming the thread pointlessly. LSB can just ask whomever he wants to shoot to say it. And we don't even know if that is how his power works.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 20:58 GMT

#946

Jackal are you actually reading my posts or this thread at all? If you are town and actually think I am scummy then you are hopeless. I am trying to keep the thread from being spammed like day 1 with everyone pointlessly writing I am town, when instead LSB can just ask whomever he wants to shoot to say it. But I will say it just to make you happy I am town.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 16 2011 21:04 GMT

#951

It doesn't say that in my pm, I am pretty sure if one dies the other will live. But I can't say for sure.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 17 2011 21:08 GMT

#1078

Sandroba apparently can't post at all today? He is changing his vote in the voting thread without posting here, which is unlike him. I will never play in another game with posting restrictions. It makes the game unplayable for town and it pretty much destroys all the fun of playing mafia.

I am having some doubts about the bum lynch. I am still trying to wrap my head around how he could have played this horribly as town. Day 1 he contributes nothing, Day 2 he shoots someone the entire town thought was probably not scum and his reasoning for shooting Kav by quoting incog nuking chez before so so scummy. But his defense seems so unlike him for scum. I normally always kill people who use the lay down and die defense but it seems so unlike bum's normal defense as scum. He is more likely to fight to the bitter end than just lay down. Along with that mafia cannot possibly have many kp roles. They started with 7mafia and 3kp they can't have been given very much more kp.

I am also not sure I am feeling the LSB lynch. LSB posted the ace picture right before the day post, and has claimed he shot kita and it failed. If he were mafia why claim ace before the flip at all? He would know that kita was going to flip town. I don't see any motivation for him to claim right then.

I would actually like to lynch someone like node/BC who has been completely useless. But meh not sure there is enough time to switch the lynch.

Also blah blah blah bad at mafia, annoying.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 17 2011 21:29 GMT

#1081

Bum is useless and scummy but his defense doesn't fall in line with what I would expect from his scum play. Along with that how many kp roles can the mafia possibly have?

Compare node's posts this game and node's posts from ptp1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&user=53526&currentpage=2. There is a huge difference. He posted at one point saying how sad he was that pandain was shot and he agreed with his ban of kurumi then later votes for pandain with the reasoning being that he banned the powers of 2 strong townies. Uh lol. His very first post as well he makes an excuse for not contributing because of the spam.

Then look at BC's posts he refuses to give his opinions on anything actually happening in the game. I have asked him to post some reads twice in the game and both times he has ignored me. Instead he makes worthless 1 line comments where he basically just calls out peoples roles.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 17 2011 21:46 GMT

#1086

I mean consider for a minute mafia has 3 kp 7 players so we have to kill 3 mafia just to lower their kp to 2.Combined with no roles being revealed at death hurts the town a ton. Dt's cant breadcrumb etc. And I know of several townie's roles which are practically worthless. So would there be any need for ver/incog to give the scum team anymore kp? I will admit tho if they did give the mafia more kp a day vig makes sense and then bum's terrible shot on kav is the kind of thing I would expect to see.

Btw has anyone considered someone besides bum killed Kav.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&currentpage=44#863

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&currentpage=50#994

The 2nd post incog shows the nuke launching so obviously it didn't kill kav in the first post. So I would guess there is another day vig out there that shot for kav for some terrible reason.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 17 2011 21:54 GMT

#1089

Bum could be just confused as us because he is assuming it is a 2nd nuke fired. When I am saying it appears that that is his original nuke shot. For one thing usually when someone nukes the mods post and say person is going to die at X time. They don't just post kavdragon blew up.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 17 2011 21:55 GMT

#1090

And obviously nobody is firing a 2nd nuke at kav after he is dead. What possible sense would that make? So clearly something else killed kav first and then after bum's nuke was shot at him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 17 2011 22:02 GMT

#1093

How can you possibly know you killed Kav? And who fired the 2nd nuke then and why didn't they have to post ##nuke in the thread? And why would they fire a nuke at him?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 17 2011 22:07 GMT

#1095

What I would guess happened is. Dayvig/some weird leftover night action shot kav first but incog/ver were not around until after bum had already nuked. I can't see anyone wasting their day vig shot on kav after bum had already nuked. So incog then just updated the thread in the order they happened.

Does anyone want to claim the Kav kill? I can't really see any reason mafia would ever shoot kav secretly when there were tons of better targets for them.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 18 2011 01:40 GMT

#1110

If kita/misder/fw don't vote then we already have enough to lynch bum. But yea people should vote bum to guarantee a lynch regardless. Even if I have my doubts lynching bum is going to help us a lot more than a no lynch.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 18 2011 03:43 GMT

#1130

I really should stick with my first instincts and not doubt myself.

Anyway suspicious people list

Jackal - Had a pr requiring him to tunnel and lynch a townie, this is much more likely to be a mafia trait. Along with that 90% of his posts are one liners and he tried to convince people to lynch LSB instead of bum.

Node - Has been completely useless, compare his posts this game to PTP2. Day 1 he states how sad he is that pandain died and that his decision to use his power on kurumi was correct. Day 2 he votes for pandain because he used his power on kurumi/bum lol.

BC - completely useless both days. Provides absolutely no analysis while ignoring my questions when I ask him for his reads on the game. Refuses to comment on anything actually happening in the game.

Node/BC would both be very very good vigi shots.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 18 2011 03:49 GMT

#1135

Sandroba what about the fact that nobody besides pandain/lsb/bum were even up for discussion today for the lynch? Wouldn't mafia have tried to push the lynch off of bum onto someone else.